Scotland to London with LNER and their last HST train set
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Railway company: LNER
Train type : BR 43 HST 125
From : Edinburgh Waverley 🇬🇧 - London King's Cross 🇬🇧
Time : 4h39
Price : 75€
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Despite British Rail often being criticised and failing with the APT , they came up with a gem in 125. These trains must have repaid their investment many times over with their long service life. I remember rue days when you could actually drive into Waverley Station and even park if you were lucky. The best service was The Flying Scotsman which departed Edinburgh ( the starting point unlike nowadays ) at 10 am with one stop at Newcastle and then belted down to King’s Cross arrive just before 3 pm.
I love this report and the way you talk to the trains in your comments, The Intercity 125 was the backbone of long distance travel in the UK. A great train.
Edinburgh Waverley is one of the most unforgettable railway stations I’ve set foot in. The way the roof is covered with window panels made me think about how people crave sunlight in this far northern city. And I found Edinburgh such a chilly place in May 2008...but was also privileged to spend the better part of a whole day around the Forth Bridge taking in the might and the grandeur.
A great video as always Thibault! Really glad you got to sample a HST along the East Coast Main Line before they finished their service with LNER. Also, weren't you lucky to have record holder 43302 as one of the pair of class 43 forming the HST you had! 👌 They will be very much missed for travelling on the ECML, but as others have said HSTs in various forms are going to continue in service for some time to come. Hopefully you'll get a chance to sample them sometime in the near future. Keep up the great videos, & I look forward to the next one! 👍
Alors merci Thibault beaucoup pour ce trip report, les paysages d'Ecosse sont magnifiques. Le sous-titrage est parfait, à la durée parfaite pour pouvoir lire sans s'arrêter. Bravo à toi. C'est un beau voyage.
@louislegrand2865
4 жыл бұрын
Ah oui j'oubliais : j'aime bien ce mélange d'"antiquité/moderne" dans les trains 1970 : place affichée en numérique, cool, design récent, mais train des années 70.
Thanks again, great report. I will miss these trains but, like everything, the world moves on and the HSTs were probably past their best. Hopefully the 800s will improve journey times with their faster acceleration, although I will miss the cosiness on the MK3 stock as the new trains have a more austere interior trim level.
@s125ish
4 жыл бұрын
David O'Brien lighting is too bright in new trains
@thearsenalmisfit2414
3 жыл бұрын
If you mean that the 800s are shite boxes ,I agree , the GWR stock of 880 class are shockingly poor in both comfort and build quality. The seats are like a rock to sit on , there is no buffet car so If your not at the start of the trolley cart service you more than likly wont get anthing you want, and the train built out of 2 5car unites stops you from walking the entire length of the train so if can pick the wrong 5 car unite thar might be jamed full of people only to see there was plenty of room in the second 5 car unit. Give me a 40 year old Hst 125 anyday as the class 800 has set passenger comfort back 50 years or more. Driving to Cardiff for me is the option now.
My dad used to work for the Italian Railway company FS and we were lucky enough to have free tickets to travel Europe.. this trip was one of those we take when travelling in the UK and we really enjoyed every single minute of it
Between Newcastle and York on this journey you would have passed through Darlington, one end of the world's first public steam railway, from 1825.
I’ve been to this station, nice to see it again. Love Scotland, such a beautiful country.
8:55 Oh no!The Pacers are still there
Waverley makes sense if you know that the platforms are numbered in a circle. The through platforms are on each side of the station.
Superbe vidéo, j’avais hâte de voir une vidéo avec l’HST 125 sur cette chaîne , merci !
Edinburgh Waverley is an unusual movie location, but they had a big fight scene there in Avengers: Infinity War for some reason.
@Jordan-ko7me
4 жыл бұрын
*Avengers endgame. I thought it was cool.
@tinayang5442
4 жыл бұрын
Wait what I didn’t know that is it true?
@AliIslamic07
4 жыл бұрын
Ye I saw it and I randomly saw the place in Edinburgh when I visited
@Jordan-ko7me
4 жыл бұрын
@Zaffre Lights Oh yeah it was, my bad
@Jordan-ko7me
4 жыл бұрын
@Zaffre Lights for some reason I thought that was in Endgame
Excellent report. A nice tribute to a once worldbeating locomotive
Excellent video as always Thibault! You will still be able to ride on HSTs for some years to come: East Midlands Trains are still using them, including some of the ex-LNER trains, between London St Pancras and Sheffield via Derby or Nottingham. Arriva Cross Country have 4 sets which they use on certain Edinburgh - Plymouth services. Additionally, ScotRail are using some shortened (5 car) sets on services from Edinburgh and Glasgow to Aberdeen and Inverness, while Great Western Railway are using some other shortened sets (4 cars, I think) on services between Cardiff and Penzance. The Mark 3 stock is the UK equivalent of the SNCF Corail stock - in my opinion the most comfortable (originally) and smoothest-riding stock in both countries, having been introduced at about the same time in the mid-seventies. Most of the East Midlands Trains vehicles still have the original more spacious and comfortable seating layout. You should try them if you get the chance!
@CS_22
4 жыл бұрын
Pennine Trains I live on the MML, and the East Midlands Railway’s HSTs are the worst. The MK3s have a terrible terrible suspension and it’s like being on the pacific in stormy weather. I love HSTs, but not really the EMR ones. Still nice to be on one, but along the MML, the 222’s are nicer.
@penninetrains1398
4 жыл бұрын
@@CS_22 Don't you think that could be at least partly due to poor track maintenance? I've noticed in recent years a lot of wet spots on the Southern section of the MML and they really make the bogies bounce and sway. Having said that, the ECML South of Doncaster is not that great at the moment either. In their day, the mark 3 vehicles - both HST and loco-hauled - were the best riding carriages on BR, given good permanent way, but I guess that age and increasingly difficult maintenance must be taking their toll!
@CS_22
4 жыл бұрын
Pennine Trains Maybe true, but I’m sure the GWR track is worse, and there HSTs were good. The 222’s have much better suspensions it seems, as they are comfier to ride on.
@tonywilkins6090
4 жыл бұрын
Just to let you know Crosscountry has 5 HSTs sets. However each weekday only 4 of them are in use. the 5th one is kept at the depot in case one breaks down. Interesting fact though 4 of the 5 have sliding doors, whereas the 5th one has standard doors. According to one of the XC's staff, the 5th HST isn't one they regularly use in service so XC left it as it is. So if you see a XC set with standard doors you know it's the spare one. Regarding East Midland Railway, I have noticed their original HST sets are more bouncy and give off more noise than say the 222. However if you do want a comfortable HST ride, I recommend the angel sets (the ex-Grand central ones) as they seem to be a whole lot better than EMR's HSTs. Below are the weekday services that uses the angel sets if you need them. DY021 1C18 0731 DBY-STP, 1D21 1005 STP-NOT 1C52 1359 SHF-STP, 1M40 1650 STP-COR, 1P41 1837 COR-STP, 1F72 2031 STP-DBY, DY022 1B79 1945 NOT-STP, 1D81 2200 STP-NOT
These are my favourite trains here in UK I've had the absolute pleasure of having several journeys on these beautiful trains. I'm so sad that LNER retired them but thrilled EMT still operates many of them still. Great video
@class56trainsrock62
3 жыл бұрын
EMR now
A great video. Thanks for sharing.
I like this video I watched it all the time thanks for sharing💗👍
1:59 Some Intercity 225s will remain on Kings Cross to York and Kings Cross to Leeds services
I travelled on a HST of LNER in 2019 between Newcastle and Edinburgh. It was still running amazingly
Brilliant trip report! It’s sad to see these brilliant beasts leave their home witch they’ve had for 41 years! Another train company I can recommend is transpennine express who operates out of Liverpool and Manchester to Newcastle and Scotland and some other places. They recently got new trains so it’s worth doing a report on! 👍😀
good luck to your travel and Ill be watching anywhere you travel
Watching your January 2021 trip amazed me. Still in the pandemic years but in your place, Europe is well connected
Terrific catches! Amazing trip in Great Britain/United Kingdom you had! The trolley service reminds me of the Harry Potter Series.
HST is a legend while the class 800 is the Pacer of long distance trains.
Slt de Londres! Excellente vidéo comme toujours ^^
It's nice to see the Mark 3 coaches still in service after 45 years. And sadly some of them were sent to the scrapyards this year. Irish Rail got a fleet of these coaches in 1984 with electric doors instead of slam doors, which were taken out of service in 2009 after been replaced by the 22000 Class Intercity Railcar, and were scrapped in 2014.
She's a beauty, love the 125
Great report, I love the livery and the seats of this train!! And, also I think you can add to your descriptions the departure time and the arrival time.
@Ynysmydwr
4 жыл бұрын
The advertised Monday to Friday times for this service (train 1E15) are Edinburgh depart 12.30 London Kings Cross arrive 16.50
@atrachkarim1879
4 жыл бұрын
Ok thank you
Realy good video
I m watching this on an 8h train trip, thankfully I could tranform my seat to a bed, though to watching your ÖBB video, thank you, you saved 3h of my day 🤘🏻 (Rest of the time was 2 other trains)
I thought they got rid of them all, probably still using some!! Good video :D deffo subscribing
I go on that journey every summer to go to my aunties down in England and i want to go back now that we're stuck in the house!
When I look at this I realize how smooth and quiet they were compared to the newer trains and how well the Mk 3 and Mk 4 were made the new rolling stock euro star and continental Iv'e seen on video just don't quite cut it.
We will miss them very much
3:09 - The fastest diesel in the WORLD to this day!
@morganjones2944
4 жыл бұрын
Nah I think Super Voyager Class 221 ye ur right I checked but I prefer the diesel 221’s. Getting replaced by Hitachi trains
@Class43Harrison
4 жыл бұрын
@@morganjones2944 if I remember correctly, they still hold the record of the fastest diesel in the world to this day.
@gabri_maybe
4 жыл бұрын
@@Class43Harrison yes,it still does
@soobinsbread590
4 жыл бұрын
The class 800? They can operate on diesel too
@Class43Harrison
4 жыл бұрын
Kookie UwU the class 800’s are fast, but they aren’t purely diesel, the HST’s are.
Great video of a lovely train. Unlike the Pacer at 8:58. That were literally built by converting old busses!
@51StPi
4 жыл бұрын
When they introduced these on the Leeds-Morecambe line in '86 I was going to College we use to dread them they were so uncomfortable, we use to be happy when they broke down (and they often did when new) and the train company had to put on old rolling stock.
Finally a HST! They are good machines but I prefer TGV sud-est Great video
Very good video, hi from south africa!
@EleanorPeterson
3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Theo! Train journeys in Africa are quite a thing. There's the ridiculously huge distances, for a start. Britain's such an old, cramped, cluttered little island that if you tried a typical South African trip here you'd fall off the edge into the sea... ;-)
@theovanstaden5766
3 жыл бұрын
@@EleanorPeterson lol, i have never thought of it that way, i am going to sub You @Elli P!
WHOAH HST INTERCITY 125
When are they planning to retire Intercity 225s? I'll be moving to London in September and hope to try them especially with the Intercity Swallow front
When you come to India, don't forget to make a vlog with Rajdhani Express. The most prestigious train representing our country.
Cool :).
Excellent video. 1st class has far more room with leather seats and a picture window properly aligned to the seats (and you're near the buffet car). Expensive though since a meal is included whether you want it or not, like on Eurostar.
I'm gutted that LNER have got rid of the 125s, I love them...Hopefully I'll get to chance to try the Grand Central one after this virus...
In the 1980s I travelled by HST in the other direction. Edinburgh Waverley station hasn't changed a bit 😁 HST was quite an experience back then. The smooth, quiet ride. The original 2nd class interior was better: full-size tables (as in 1st class but with 4 seats abreast), more legroom. Lighter colors, giving a more spacious feel within the smaller size of the Mk.3 coach compared to European mainland. No smartphones, no internet, no worries about power sockets and WiFi 😁 That trip on HST is still one of the best I can remember.
Nice
I ‘d thought for the final surprise to visit platform 9¾ at King’s Cross 😉 great report btw 👍🏼 some of the Mark 3 coaches do have electric sliding entry doors and screens for seat reservations normally of the cross country HSTs 🙂
Dude this train was designed for an era that laptops were not even existing. It's normal to that there are small tables. I still don't understand why everyone is still complaining about this.
tip: if you want to left your luggage, do it into the Edinburgh bus station: it's only one block north (from Waverley), and it's far cheaper
These ran services at 135mph and even up to 140mph in the 1970's - early 1990's with a good driver even though 125mph was the 'official' in service limit. The UK has gone backwards. Trains are rougher, noisier, and nothing can now beat Germany.
How many days did it take you from scotland to london?
Great video shame there not on LNER but you do have class 91 loco/passanger car hauled sets I believe still around until 2021/2022 and you also have the brand new azumas too I've only experience the GWR ones but I think the LNER and TPE ones look nice
Beautiful! What's the watch on your hand?
If you ever find yourself in London, Try out The Thameslink from St Pancras International to London Bridge, RER Style rapid transit
The doors make them the best train ever
I find your videos most informative, M. Thibault. The next time you are on this train, get off at York to see the sights. (And skip Newcastle).
Love my capitals train station you have to visit Glasgow central station it’s stunning
They're still very much in use. Scotrail use them
@tartansimmo7147
4 жыл бұрын
So do CrossCountry, GWR and EMR
@AliIslamic07
4 жыл бұрын
ScotRail got them from GWR
@rossochanel3168
3 жыл бұрын
Peterborough United Fan Channel yes that is correct but GWR don’t have them any more only Azuma but cross courntry and Scot rail do
@tengsted
3 жыл бұрын
@@rossochanel3168 Yes they do. Shortened sets dubbed "Castle" class.
@boringfunny2767
3 жыл бұрын
He knows but this is the last Scotland to London service
LNER are really good customer service is always top quality!
You should’ve tried the Class 43 sets on the Midland Mainline if you didn’t, they were the original sets and layouts; with more generous seating arrangements
so sad they're replacing the old trains. I used to work on HSTs and they were really easy to maintain due to their basic design compared to the Azumas which is mostly computerised.
could you tell me what is the price of that train , i am also planing to go London
How much is the ticket?
Nice work and enjoyable trip. 👏 Thanks! Have you ever considered trying voiceovers instead of subtitles? 🤔 Sometimes they appear on screen too quickly to read. 🤓
we rode the new Azuma class in Feb 2020 ride to London was great but alas it was canceled it broke down on kings cross station for the run back had to make our own way back, LNER are not very good at sorting things out when a train dies in the station LNER 5/10, this was our third trip to London with LNER and the third cancelation
I’m sure that the Azuma trains will also compete cars and planes much.
“Sunny Scotland”
Also try the Class 801 AZUMA
Most of the seats are "airline style". Irish Rail used to have a fleet of these Mark 3 coaches (in service 1984-2009 scrapped 2014) and in each standard coach were 16 airline style seats and 56 seats at a table. Check one out in this video... they had the original seats and lighting of the Intercity 125, but with electric doors instead of slam doors (hence the "stand clear of doors" announcement). kzread.info/dash/bejne/omqp08d7j9G-ZJc.html
Hi, Any suggestion for the mobile apps to buy ticket online? Thanks :)
@NonstopEurotrip
4 жыл бұрын
LNER have their own app which you can use for digital tickets and the prices are always the cheapest on it
Leaning out and opening the door from the outside at a station is not dangerous at all. The doors all have central door locking and can't be opened at all whilst in motion. :)
I would have liked to see Hadrian's Wall ...
4:49 "No toasters or hairdryers please" :')
(3:54) How to open door at old HST. - Cheers, Heinz
Azuma is proud of Japan!!!!
@flyingscotsman_a3
4 жыл бұрын
🙄
The first high speed train in the uk was the failed Class 370 APT (Advanced passenger train)
Yes they were "kick ass trains" what a shame they are gone on "LNER" .... You should have gone first class if the price wasn't to crazy!!! :):):) Thank you for sharing!!! :):):)
Looks like EMR hasn't changed much from its purchases ex-LNER HSTs
Which speed they reach on the track ? On the whole journey, and top speed, and some pieces higher speed than others I suppose. This looks at at least 160 km/hour.
@matthewrattigan538
3 жыл бұрын
125mph in places, or 200km/h
Very sadly I totally agree. Travelled on the Lumo 803 and it was so packed on one of the early promotion packed trains it was like being in a sardine can. I also remember the first trip on one of the 800’s from Doncaster to Peterborough. If the train had stopped at an intermediate station, I would have got off and waited for another train. Yes the HST’s were over 40 years old but was it beyond the imagination of designers to update a quality product into the 21st century. 800’s 👎
Maybe one day you should try InterCity from Bratislava to Košice (country:Slovakia)
@edwilson5416
4 жыл бұрын
I agree. That's one of my favourite journeys, the scenery gradually gets better as you head up the valley towards Poprad.
Edinburgh Warvley in FH4 maybe?
8:55 pacer. Please do a trip report on this before it gets replaced. Also please do a trip report on the Heathrow express as well!
@gerogyzurkov2259
4 жыл бұрын
He might not like the pacer lol.
@NSE465
4 жыл бұрын
No he won't like bus train hybrid crossovers
@gerogyzurkov2259
4 жыл бұрын
He definitely does need to experience a steam train though.
@NSE465
4 жыл бұрын
@@gerogyzurkov2259 yes
@gerogyzurkov2259
4 жыл бұрын
Maybe an a4 or a duchess for grandness
Great video and good train! But one point, the world record of diesel traction, I believe that the spanish Talgo BT continues to maintain it, reaching 256.38 km / h in 2002.
@Ynysmydwr
4 жыл бұрын
In 2002 Talgo claimed that 256 km/h had been reached on the Olmedo to Medina del Campo high-speed experimental line. However, the claim was never proven.
@ChrisCooper312
4 жыл бұрын
As well as the Talgo record never being officially verified, it was also with an experimental train. The HST record is pretty unique in that it used a normal service train, carrying passengers. It was slightly shorter than normal, but otherwise unmodified (with the exception of disabling the speed limiter).
I Love It But I Love Mallard 4468 LNER
It’s good you could review this before they withdrawn out of the fleet. Also want to point out that LNER aka government didn’t come into swing until March of 2018 as this was the time the Azumas were being tested. Big screw up by Virgin and then a year and a half later they lost the west coast 😂
Why not do the ScotRail Class 43 HST “Inter7ity”. And the Class 385 AT200 “Express” EMUs. I have been to Edinburgh, highlands and the Far North of Scotland before but not to Glasgow. And yes farewell LNER HST #Intercity125 & #Intercity225
4:20 Virgin lost the franchise in June 2018, not November 2017. I went on Virgin in 2018 before they became LNER. Frankly LNER look like they've made things worse since Virgin, as less trains are on time and the Azumas aren't as comfortable as an HST. The Azuma has big shoes to fill.
Thibault, please slowly pan your camera in future recordings as the images on screen make viewers feel dizzy. Thanks.
Rip the HST now gone from even more lines
@jaysonflesher8666
4 жыл бұрын
I live in Cornwall I guess I am lucky we still have HSTs although they have only 4 cars between the power units
@benjamintery7847
4 жыл бұрын
@@jaysonflesher8666 They dont even have slam door any more :(
@JimbobsTransportVideos
4 жыл бұрын
I don’t live in a place we’re HSTs are common I have only been on a HST maybe once
@Martindyna
4 жыл бұрын
@@jaysonflesher8666 Do the shortened HSTs still have a max. line speed of 125 MPH? Didn't know whether it was reduced for some reason.
@jakegtr
4 жыл бұрын
Martindyna they are restricted to 100mph with GWR, but EMR have ran a few 4 coach services at 125
In this case when you can't have trains in France, we have to escape through borders :)
New year but we lost HST, DD-AR, and TGV PSE... We poor
The HSTs will last a little linger here in the Southern Hemisphere en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_South_Wales_XPT
Scotrail is using HSTs for its routes between the principal scottish cities. They're old GWR stock refurbished
@Martindyna
4 жыл бұрын
Yes they are shorter formations with 4 carriages (so called HST GTi 🤣 ) retrofitted with effluent tanks for the toilets (rather than dumping on the tracks) and sliding outside doors. With only 4 cars they will have acceleration similar to Sprinters & electric trains. They would have even better acceleration if the power cars were lower geared as in the Australian XPT (design speed 160 km/h) but the HST gearing has been retained.
The Class 80x replacements for the 125, and 225 sets are nice to look at, but once inside, awful. As the coaches are longer, to fit the loading gauge they're narrower than the previous. Sitting in the aisle on already uncomfortable seat is torture when people are moving through the train, and even worse with luggage as you'll invariably be walloped by a rucksack. I'd rather fly than spend 6 hours on one.
How fast was the train during your journey?
@liamg5845
4 жыл бұрын
Vincenzo Di Bernardo from 100 to 125 mph which there limited to in the U.K.
@Martindyna
4 жыл бұрын
Design speed of IC125 is 125 mph. Design speed of IC225 is 140 mph (225 km/h) but only allowed to go 125 mph due to no radio signalling.
Hmm, Standard Class does look tight...
@sam39410ify
4 жыл бұрын
That's because British trains are narrow (2.75m) compared to the rest of the world (2.85-3.0m). Add that tiny seat pitch, you got a nice little sardine can.
@NaenaeGaming
4 жыл бұрын
I mean compared to other BRITISH trains, it’s not about the train size really in this case.
So basically, this was your only ride of the HST Class 43 train.
I can't understand why there are no train no.s for British Railways. How did companies and other railway workers refer to each trains? I mean, do they refer to trains as something like "GWR train departing at 1300 from London Euston to London Piccadilly"? (May have some mistakes, but really want to know the reasons as a Asian railfan)
@liamg5845
4 жыл бұрын
中華人民共和國統一工作部 they will say the train operating company and the time and were it going too. For example- Departing now on platform 1 Is the 16 15, Cross country service to Birmingham Newstreet Then they go on to say where the train calls at (stations it stops at on the way)
@MrOpenGL
4 жыл бұрын
The public never see the numbers. Train is announced as e.g. "the 15:00 LNER service to Stirling" The railway companies have a numbeing system with 4 letters and numbers e.g. 1H25 I am not from the UK so if somebody wants to correct me or add more info please do so ;)
@s125ish
4 жыл бұрын
By time. And destination
@NonstopEurotrip
4 жыл бұрын
@@MrOpenGL this is correct, the timetable app will show the 'headcode' of the train but I think the public prefer just the time and destination information 👍🏻
@Ynysmydwr
4 жыл бұрын
The trains do have numbers. The service featured in this video, for instance, is train 1E15. However, these numbers are used only internally (by staff) and are not announced to the public. (If you really want to know the numbers, they are shown in the Working Timetable, which is available on the internet.)