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  • @Ducksnuget
    @Ducksnuget3 жыл бұрын

    After watching every review on these amps, no one agrees what’s different about them.

  • @sarmehdi

    @sarmehdi

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same. Came here from Joshua's video on these and he also couldn't differentiate between these two.

  • @MaaZeus

    @MaaZeus

    3 жыл бұрын

    Because probably there isn't one. I mean there probably is a slight difference because of their different design and how they react to volume and gain changes, but in the end they do the same thing: take a signal, amplify it and give enough juice to the headphones. In this case exactly the same amount of juice. The basic difference is that do you want an oldschool discrete style amplifier because you get OCD from opamps as they MAY alter the sound (opamp rolling is a thing, they can be switched like tubes) or can you accept the fact that technology can move forward and you can do the same thing, or even better measurably, in smaller opamp chips and simpler overall circuit design.

  • @NFStopsnuf

    @NFStopsnuf

    Жыл бұрын

    There is no difference because there shouldn’t be one.

  • @MrDowntemp0
    @MrDowntemp03 жыл бұрын

    I was researching Schiit's amps specifically because I need more juice from my GSX1000, so damn was I surprised when you mentioned recommending this amp to someone who was having that very specific problem in this video!

  • @hungryhungryhummer
    @hungryhungryhummer4 жыл бұрын

    Moral of the story: Get the pretty one.

  • @user-vx1wt4hb5l

    @user-vx1wt4hb5l

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yup thats what i'm doing.

  • @Michael-qi8tt

    @Michael-qi8tt

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was thinking about that. Now i'm going to do it thanks.

  • @ramencurry6672

    @ramencurry6672

    3 жыл бұрын

    True. Picking one boils down to psychological reasons. I’m getting the Heresy since it measures most accurate. Purely psychological reason even though it really doesn’t matter which one to get.

  • @aszbzpszbz9786

    @aszbzpszbz9786

    3 жыл бұрын

    This. This Shiit is getting ridiculous. Just color mach it with your dac and call it a day.

  • @heres_the_sauce

    @heres_the_sauce

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@user-vx1wt4hb5l they both pretty tho. Get the goth one

  • @Kenoji8
    @Kenoji84 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this series of videos, Z. I actually owned a TP21 amp for years and years and years (way before your review of it), but never used it much (as the headphones I've had were "meh" and I never had a desire to). And since I've followed you, I've gotten my hands on a decent amount of budget-level cans (like the Bowers & Wilkins P7) and great audio information that I wish I had many, many years ago. Needless to say, after this amp series and going back and seeing your scathing review on the TP21...I decided it was time to retire it, lololololololol, especially considering what modern amps can do nowadays. So thanks to you, I decided to pick up the Heresy and it should be here soon (along with a shiny new German pair of 2nd Gen B&O BeoPlay H6s). Thanks again for your videos! :)

  • @skrounst
    @skrounst3 жыл бұрын

    12:40 "MOOOOOMMMMMM! Uncle Zeos hit me!" 😫😫😭😭

  • @BxrHavik
    @BxrHavik2 жыл бұрын

    Zeos is the only youtuber ever that can talk about audio tech and make you laugh your ass off at the same time lol.

  • @hifiguy77
    @hifiguy774 жыл бұрын

    @Z Reviews Thank you for the detailed review! I have been looking for an entry level HP amp and leaning toward a Schiit (probably the Heresy). I am a bit concerned over the varying playback quality you experienced depending on the headphone you where using. What price point / brands /models would you recommend moving up to that would have greater consistency across different headphones? Thank you for sharing your knowledge with all of us enthusiast.

  • @misterjones8822
    @misterjones88224 жыл бұрын

    Speaking of Zechs and headphones, I highly recommend the Mars Volta offshoot called Zechs Marquise.

  • @subliminalgoat3972
    @subliminalgoat39724 жыл бұрын

    This is why I use an amp like the Garage1217 Project Polaris. Each headphone responds differrntly to various gain, resistance, amps, etc. I like having the ability to adjust to headphones rather than judging headphones based on just high/low gain settings.

  • @shawnpwatsons1

    @shawnpwatsons1

    4 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting thought.

  • @boiler-tech
    @boiler-tech3 жыл бұрын

    "I'm a human A/B switch" LOL Great Review!

  • @STatic4009
    @STatic40094 жыл бұрын

    The fulla, hel, and magni Hersey are the same design. They just scale up with amplification with more op amps respectively. The magni 3+ is a sexy implementation of a class A/B amplifier.

  • @selbi182

    @selbi182

    4 жыл бұрын

    If you say these amps just scale up with amplification, does that mean sensitive headphones that don't require a lot of power (Fidelio X2, namely) won't benefit much from, say, a Heresy over a Fulla?

  • @STatic4009

    @STatic4009

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@selbi182 I have the fulla and literally if you have headphones that are below 75 ohms ( guessing on my moddest collection) you literally can't tell the difference. On IEMs with the heresy, you can barely use 1/4 of the volume nob with the kz zs10 pro's. So the fulla is fine. Literally the only difference on the amplification side is how many cascading op amps you have for amplification. Only thing that the heresy will give you is the ability to use a different DAC and put a EQ in the middle for lower impedance headphones. If you game and want a simple setup I keep going back too, fulla 3 + Sennheiser pc37x and know you have a setup that sounds as good as a schiit stack without extra power you don't need.

  • @heythere6983

    @heythere6983

    3 жыл бұрын

    People talk about e sounds of these as being very good but these are amps so would the modi 3 produce a better sound/soundstage than these seeing it is a dac specifically and these are just amps?

  • @gnd144
    @gnd1444 жыл бұрын

    Thumbs up, thanks for listing items below vid.

  • @subbot8077
    @subbot80773 жыл бұрын

    Just ordered a Heresy, thanks Zeos!

  • @michaeldee1031
    @michaeldee10314 жыл бұрын

    “Z”, do you still have your magni 3(not plus) around? Do they use the same 15vac1500ma brick or the old 14vac 1500ma brick? (searched your magni 2/2U/3 video and they used 14vac brick) If your old mangni 3 uses the 14vac brick, would there be any sonic differences if you use the 15vac brick of the 3+ on the 3?

  • @dominicstephens3445
    @dominicstephens34454 жыл бұрын

    I am curious what you have to say about the Schiit Hel.. I had just purchased one but haven't received it yet but was just curious to see what you would have to say about it.

  • @mattg082
    @mattg0824 жыл бұрын

    I run a apogee Rosetta Ad/DA 200. Mostly looking for something sterile using my Athm50s and sometimes I use sonaworks software on my master buss. But my living situation is 80% headphone tracking and 20% monitors. I was actually looking at the Capi headphone amp for my API lunchbox and also the costly Rupert Neve Headphone amp. I need something high quality that’s flat and not really boosting frequency. Some people over at gearslutz forum, told me to park at these before spending 300-500 on a CAPI build or Neve one. What’s your thought for using these for pro audio tracking? It won’t really be used to listen to other artist music, but purely studio.

  • @StevenLynn
    @StevenLynn4 жыл бұрын

    Wait, what about IEMs? I have the T2's. Which should I use? /waits_for_amazon_to_deliver_789_and_drop_to_deliever_SendyAudio

  • @TitaniumSenshi
    @TitaniumSenshi4 жыл бұрын

    "It's the Vayeate and Mercurius all over again..." My man! I was always a Vayeate guy, myself.

  • @austingreen6042

    @austingreen6042

    3 жыл бұрын

    Original Transformers 'jetfire' still wins ! 😅

  • @davidgamble5756
    @davidgamble57563 жыл бұрын

    Keep going mate,great for insomnia

  • @l33tsauce79
    @l33tsauce793 жыл бұрын

    Watched this before I got into the game. Back with DT 1990s and the schiit stack magni heresy and modi3. my wife and 6 year old are now audiophiles too. Rip wallet

  • @EndersFPS

    @EndersFPS

    3 жыл бұрын

    What do you run your heresy with the dt 1990’s? High or low gain?

  • @l33tsauce79

    @l33tsauce79

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@EndersFPS low gain for casual listening and most games. High gain for intense fps listening and stuff to hear footsteps.

  • @oakfig

    @oakfig

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@l33tsauce79 I just got dt 770 pro, Wich one of these would you recommend?

  • @l33tsauce79

    @l33tsauce79

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@oakfig it's personal preference but I chose the heresy because looks and because the data sheet technically has better specs

  • @mavelaw
    @mavelaw4 жыл бұрын

    So the Heresy would be best for the HD660S, given they are a fit with the HD600s? @Z Reviews

  • @Npcubed33
    @Npcubed334 жыл бұрын

    It's almost like Schitt has gotten into an Endless Waltz with itself

  • @jonathanr2830
    @jonathanr28303 жыл бұрын

    I am grinning from ear to ear with my new Magni Heresy and Modi 3+ and HD 600. My plan is to now get a Magni 3+, Modi Multibit, and Loki Mini+. I agree with you about the Heresy and how interesting to compare these headphone amps that are so similar, but with different topologies and variant sound depending on headphones, gain, and volume settings. For me, getting both is a no-brainer, because of the flexibility to use and enjoy whatever suits my mood on any given day. Thank you for your review! Good one.

  • @mauricioyoung6668

    @mauricioyoung6668

    2 жыл бұрын

    Have you gotten your new stack yet? I’m looking to get the same 3 pieces of schiit. Would love to hear how it’s performing and how is your Loki mini treating ya

  • @jonathanr2830

    @jonathanr2830

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mauricioyoung6668 I seriously enjoyed my Magni Heresy and Modi 3 with my Sennheiser HD600 headphones for several months. The sound was perfect to my ears. Loved that setup, and was gearing up to get the Magni 3 and Loki Mini+, when personal circumstances led me to give my setup to a relative who had gone without good gear and sound for decades. I knew how good it really was and how right my decision to gift them when I demonstrated the setup to my relative during a visit. His eyes nearly teared up, and he wanted to keep listening for a long time, going through his favorite playlist of music from multiple genres. So, I am back to square one, and planning to again get the Heresy and Magni 3/Modi 3/Loki Mini + stack. You simply cannot go wrong with the Magni Heresy/Modi 3 stack, and my confidence is solid that the same would go with the Magni 3 and Loki Mini +. All the best!

  • @mauricioyoung6668

    @mauricioyoung6668

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jonathanr2830 Thats awesome dude! Glad you were able to gift your cuz something like that!! I'm still getting my feet wet in hifi, my coworker gave me a dragonfly red and I've been using it with my Blon-03's. Looking forward to getting my stack though, I'll most likely get the magni and loki first and just use my dragonfly as the dac for now. Thanks for the reply, take care homie!

  • @TsunTzu
    @TsunTzu4 жыл бұрын

    M-da. Nice choice of background, sir. Guy's an awesome artist. Also, went with Heresy and Modi 3. Excellent combo. Have it running off a splitter with a Liquid Spark too. The Schiits are black so they match my aesthetic. Might have gotten a Magni 3+ if it was offered in black at the time, but eh.

  • @pblogic007
    @pblogic0074 жыл бұрын

    Alright... I grabbed a heresy after watching this, and I've been enjoying it with my HD650's..... Today I plugged in Grado SR225, flipped down to low gain, and started listening. It wasn't bad, I was enjoying myself... and then the Ghost of Zeos past starting whispering in my ear about the wacky gain stuff on these amps and I decided to flip it up to high gain. Holy Grado, it made these things pop and sparkle. Interesting.

  • @musicxxa6678

    @musicxxa6678

    4 жыл бұрын

    Probably because of the volume. Humans are sensitive to even 0.1db in a subconcious level. Low gain offers cleaner signal, it's superior.

  • @NFStopsnuf

    @NFStopsnuf

    Жыл бұрын

    Placebo takes another victim

  • @ChillToMusic87
    @ChillToMusic873 жыл бұрын

    Hello. Has anydody have any idea if I can connect one of these amps to my Onkyo home speaker amp and use the bass and treble settings on my Onkyo please? Also my cd and record players are connected through my Onkyo but want to be able to listen to these through my headphones but through one of the little amps and control the eq through my Onkyo. Thank you.

  • @3d-speakers945
    @3d-speakers9454 жыл бұрын

    Imma buy the Heresy, I have the fostex t50rp mkIII and the audio technica m40x I wanted to but the t20 rp.. so seems like a good idea.

  • @HPMIKE55
    @HPMIKE554 жыл бұрын

    @Z Reviews Great job bro! when you have time can you show how to set up a MiniDSP HD. I have a powered speaker that doesn't have a sub out & yes I know you make 1 before but I still need a little help! ;-) lol

  • @ZE0SPantera

    @ZE0SPantera

    4 жыл бұрын

    I mean. You need to teach yourself how the App works. Once that makes sense from just fucking with it.. All will become clear.

  • @yasserouacha6299

    @yasserouacha6299

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ZE0SPantera Please can you tell me which amp is better suited for Sundara : Topping a50/a50s or schiit heresy. Thank you.

  • @Cell2O1135
    @Cell2O11354 жыл бұрын

    Hell yeah gundam wing reference.

  • @nhblackdc5

    @nhblackdc5

    3 жыл бұрын

    I got that too. Looks like I'm getting HD6XX'S and a Heresy.

  • @MortisObscura
    @MortisObscura4 жыл бұрын

    Looking at the PCBs on their website, the magni 3+ is supposed to have an LED on it, so yours might be borked. Also the differences between the two circuit boards is pretty massive, even someone who doesn't know anything about circuitry can tell. If I could find out what model the black chips are on the heretical edition pcb, I'd beable to say the exact difference in construction but the pictures they took of it are way too blurry to find out.

  • @caseyfitz2136
    @caseyfitz21364 жыл бұрын

    I have a monolith liquid spark.. do you think its worth the upgrade to one of these? using sennheiser 6xx

  • @VredesbyrdNoir
    @VredesbyrdNoir4 жыл бұрын

    I have the Beyerdynamic MMX 300's and was thinking the Heresy would be the better option based on some initial comments about the two. Would that be right?

  • @jasperjones6857
    @jasperjones68578 ай бұрын

    Your review of FX Audio DAC-X6 got me to pull the trigger. My previous setup was using really old computer speakers with a headphone jack. That setup gets louder all the way up. But the new FX headphone "amp" is bad news. It's much quieter. You can't overdrive the phones to distortion. (And I've tried Koss, Timeless, the OG Tin P1, etc.) The volume stops increasing about 6. It doesn't get any louder at 10. So now I'm considering one of these S. amps!

  • @onik649
    @onik6494 жыл бұрын

    let's hope he replies, so I've had the schiit stack for abt a month now and thinking about upgrading to something 2x the price to get the most out of the 1990 pro. around 4-450$ is it worth it and would I notice a difference? if so what's a good stack?

  • @qwertypwnown

    @qwertypwnown

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just tape $400 to your headphones lol

  • @EssenceofPureFlavor

    @EssenceofPureFlavor

    3 жыл бұрын

    Stay Schiit, go Asgard.

  • @sponrex3528
    @sponrex35283 жыл бұрын

    Hi Z! I have a DT 770 250 ohms, Magni 3+ or 3 Heresy? Great review as always!

  • @Sashik

    @Sashik

    3 жыл бұрын

    Which one you get? How's the experience with Beyerdynamic on magni amp?

  • @PrincessPastaAudio
    @PrincessPastaAudio4 жыл бұрын

    Hello I was told to yell.

  • @johnnygeorgopoulos4072

    @johnnygeorgopoulos4072

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hello Paastah!

  • @PrincessPastaAudio

    @PrincessPastaAudio

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jon George hi friend!

  • @JonathanDano

    @JonathanDano

    4 жыл бұрын

    PASTA! YOU HAVE TO USE CAPS TO YELL

  • @PrincessPastaAudio

    @PrincessPastaAudio

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jonathan Dano BUT IM A NICE GIRL

  • @dmerc112

    @dmerc112

    4 жыл бұрын

    Paastah plz plz link to those RCA splitters thank you thank you

  • @crazyeyecarl
    @crazyeyecarl3 жыл бұрын

    Was that Gundam Wing? They got them P-Bandai's comin out soon. Anyway. I'm stuck on this choice. I don't know which one to get, and I can't buy them both. Right now I have to buy one, wait a month, buy a dac.

  • @mattfarrar5472
    @mattfarrar54724 жыл бұрын

    Any have 58Xs and either one of these?? or can say which one if either would be better?? Edit: I replaced the pads on my 58Xs with Elite Velour's and got a Little Dot MKII(coupled with a SMSL DAC)with a set GE JAN5654Ws and a set of Voshkod 6ZH1P-EVs and for me it's perfect!

  • @BlakebuckleyKBF43

    @BlakebuckleyKBF43

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have 58Xs as well and the HD6xx and I really want to know which amp will be better so if someone can answer plz

  • @Girz0r
    @Girz0r4 жыл бұрын

    "Yea but Z, I has the X2HR and my..."

  • @joestock732
    @joestock7323 жыл бұрын

    At least I know my Sennheiser HD600 sounds great on the Heresy. I made the right choice. Got a Heresy Modi Stack and fucking love it. Good work Z. Love your work.

  • @Villaboy78
    @Villaboy784 жыл бұрын

    Yeah but Zeos I have the Dan Clarke Audio aeon 2 closed and the magni3+ and I HAVE NO DESIRE TO CHANGE Is there something wrong with me? Love the channel - this was my fave review vid for ages 💗

  • @kobitsakis

    @kobitsakis

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was thinking to buy to aeon closed x from massdrop. How are these with metal or edm/hardstyle??

  • @Villaboy78

    @Villaboy78

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kobitsakis not heard the massdrops personally but I did end up changing the magni 3+ to a Burson

  • @TheMuricanMerc
    @TheMuricanMerc3 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like there is a spot for a community spreadsheet (curated by Zeos) for which one is better with which can.

  • @johnnygeorgopoulos4072
    @johnnygeorgopoulos40724 жыл бұрын

    Oh good, I already have a Heresy and my T50RP'S are(should be) arriving today lol. Still planning on buying one of those THX amps though, was interested in the A-100 but she's been discontinued, so better sound with less power I guess for me?

  • @MazeFrame

    @MazeFrame

    4 жыл бұрын

    As far as I can tell from the huge "Add to Cart"-button on Emotiva's website, the A-100 still exists. Let me give you another word of advise with the T50RPs and A-100: You don't need the A-100, it is just chasing the last 1%

  • @Camride

    @Camride

    4 жыл бұрын

    Do yourself a favor and just go ahead and order the Mayflower mod kit. It's easy to do it yourself and made a great headphone so much better. I have had my T50RPs for over 3 years (modded them a few weeks after I bought them) and it's still my go-to headphones. I use them more than anything else I own, I love them so much.

  • @Zalionn

    @Zalionn

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Camride Why are they still your go-to headphones? What do you like about them?

  • @Padybu
    @Padybu4 жыл бұрын

    I'm considering getting the DT1990 pros with a passive in line filter that fixes the highs. Which amp here should I go for, I'm guessing the heresy?

  • @OtakuSanel
    @OtakuSanel4 жыл бұрын

    I just got the HD660s, looking to upgrade from a fiio e10k dac/amp. I'm having a hard time choosing a dac&. I think the hd660s need some extra bass though so while I was initially considering the asgard with optional dac, seems like would be better off to split it so if desired i can add an EQ into the chain (any suggestions for those?). For the DAC the Modi (3 or multibit, not sure?) looks like a good choice for DAC but then for the amp not sure if the Magni 3+ or Heresey would be better for the hd660s. Seems like the heresey is better choice for sennheiser 6-- series? soo many choices! I could buy a bunch of different things and see what i like most then return the rest but i don't want to be that guy....

  • @623baller

    @623baller

    3 жыл бұрын

    wut did u end up going with and how do you like it? in the same situation as you lol

  • @geekgeek23
    @geekgeek234 жыл бұрын

    But Zeos! I have the Sennheiser HD 660S... And i love them. Thanks for your great Videos!

  • @unbekannterkant

    @unbekannterkant

    3 жыл бұрын

    So what AMP you have?

  • @squidwardstesticles5914
    @squidwardstesticles59143 жыл бұрын

    You’re not hallucinating, the old magnis did have power leds on the front. My magni 2 (non-uber) has a white led on the front and an orange led on the inside. I like the detail of making the led red on the heresy though, but it’s dumb that they removed it on the 3+

  • @Scarcazym
    @Scarcazym4 жыл бұрын

    2 mins in, and I have motion sickness

  • @yosixxx
    @yosixxx3 жыл бұрын

    I’ve the Heresy, Modi dac, and 6XX’s arriving in a few days. Do you think the Modi will drop the power of the Heresy and I should get a better dac or is it fine?

  • @manuelgaring7793
    @manuelgaring77933 жыл бұрын

    Hi Sir, Just want to know your thoughts if the Schiit Magni Heresy + Schiit Modi Multibit are a good match with the Sennheiser HD-6XX? Thank you.

  • @aimanmj

    @aimanmj

    3 жыл бұрын

    Maybe IDK 😐

  • @xophere
    @xophere3 жыл бұрын

    Hey Zeos what about the MMX300 and the 58X? Thanks. Hi PP!

  • @Mihke
    @Mihke3 жыл бұрын

    where did you get that splitter? I'm looking for something like that for my desk setup

  • @squidwardstesticles5914
    @squidwardstesticles59143 жыл бұрын

    I have a schiit stack v2 non-uber, and I’m very happy with it and don’t plan on upgrading, but fuck I wish I could have it in black and red. The classic silver and grey schiit design looks great, but my whole desk setup is black and red themed, so the heresy with a matching modi (if they make that? Idk) would look way better

  • @nisem0no
    @nisem0no4 жыл бұрын

    Got such a fright when you hit the camera with the headphones haha. I impulsively moved to one side to avoid it too.

  • @les8947
    @les89473 жыл бұрын

    hey zeos i got the sennheiser 58x jubilee which do you think will power them better? Would they pair with the heresy better since I've read that the 58x jubilee are really similar to the HD 600s

  • @spud1300
    @spud13004 жыл бұрын

    To make your schiit even more confusing, how does it compare to the Hel? Seems it would have more functionality and allow for use straight from a PC. Compare that schiit!!

  • @aaronmak1208
    @aaronmak12082 жыл бұрын

    Recommendation for Beyerdynamic DT 990 pro (250 ohm) & DT 770 (80 ohm)? I have the fulla 3, thinking to upgrade to either a heresy or magni 3+ with a modi3+.

  • @johnnymcmeans4449
    @johnnymcmeans4449 Жыл бұрын

    I just got the heresy for my shop 9500 and enjoy them. It is my first headphone amp so I have nothing to compare it to other than my home theater receiver. (Laugh if you want but I am new to the headphone thing.)

  • @Smaug1

    @Smaug1

    Жыл бұрын

    How does it sound compared to the AVR? Worth buying a special headphone amp?

  • @johnnymcmeans4449

    @johnnymcmeans4449

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Smaug1 It sounds great. I use it for my iPad and laptop. I was using my AVR when i did not feel like bothering my kids at night.

  • @ndragos87
    @ndragos874 жыл бұрын

    Stupid question Magni 3+ or RNHP is there that big of a difference in sound quality

  • @KlipschHead281
    @KlipschHead2814 жыл бұрын

    I just bought the Schiit stack Magni 3+, Modi and Loki, I spent 3 weeks trying to decide between the 3+ and Heresy, never thought to buy both, so pulling the trigger on the Heresy now, why not. Damn you. :)

  • @heythere6983

    @heythere6983

    3 жыл бұрын

    Does the modi upgrade the sound of the magni? Alone does the modi sound better than the magni alone? I always hear people mention the magni sound but don’t hear much about the modi

  • @KlipschHead281

    @KlipschHead281

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@heythere6983 - The Magni is a headphone amp, the Modi is a DAC so it depends on the way you would use them, check out Schiit's website, you'll see everything you need to know about.

  • @martindfranco758
    @martindfranco7584 жыл бұрын

    Which audio cables are those that connect to the headphones?

  • @JisMortal
    @JisMortal4 жыл бұрын

    You should give the new Hel and Fulla a review. Budget gaming Dac/amps. With mic passthrough

  • @ZE0SPantera

    @ZE0SPantera

    4 жыл бұрын

    I bought the Fulla 3. Need to get the Hel and the Asgard 3

  • @JisMortal

    @JisMortal

    4 жыл бұрын

    ZeosPantera nice

  • @STatic4009

    @STatic4009

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ZE0SPantera if you keep the magni's around a little longer I'm sure you will find the Asguard 3 and magni 3+ sound the same. Where the fulla 3, hel, and heresy (low gain) will all sound the same.

  • @mauriceelet6376
    @mauriceelet63764 жыл бұрын

    Does the gain of the THX 789 also make a difference? I just have it on the max gain and volume all the time but the RME ADI-2 DAC on the lowest (-5dB line) output because I control the volume with that. the gain switch on the DAC is in a menu, so I cant overpower anything like if iam accidentally go from lowest to highest gain on the AMP i figured.

  • @ZReviews

    @ZReviews

    4 жыл бұрын

    FAR FAR LESS.. But don't overgain the 789 input or you get clipping on the highest setting. So -5 or a bit lower on the ADI

  • @TheBeelzebub
    @TheBeelzebub4 жыл бұрын

    Zeos! How about you test the headphones most likely the people who are in the market for $100 amps will use? Most people buying $100 amps have $150-350 cans. I don't think people looking for a $100 amp are going to have $1100 or even $500 cans.

  • @kendil22

    @kendil22

    4 жыл бұрын

    The flip side to that is with the headphones he's using it's far easier to hear and identify flaws. The JDS atom for example tends to sound fine with low end or high end headphones... as long as it has the power to properly drive them. The reality is if these amps can run the cans he's using, your lower end stuff'll be fine. All I'm getting out of this video is stick with the JDS atom or Liquid Spark in the $100 bracket. Or just do what I did and say screw it and buy the SMSL SP200.

  • @chadashton7029

    @chadashton7029

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to see how the HE 4XX pairs with each of these although I probably wouldn't get either one anyways. I have a Magni2 Uber and I like it a lot but I feel like the HE 4XX needs a bit more power so I've been contemplating getting a THX AAA 789 or SMSL SP200 and getting some balanced cables and really push some power to these things.

  • @googulisevilscum

    @googulisevilscum

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@kendil22 I decided to have both! That Liquid Spark is a sweet amp though!

  • @ZE0SPantera

    @ZE0SPantera

    4 жыл бұрын

    Like Kendll22 said. i need to use headphones I know. I only have one or two cheaper cans that I think people will have. The 58x come out for the round-up video.

  • @a9b4cgd4

    @a9b4cgd4

    4 жыл бұрын

    Those fostex are just under $150.

  • @m4nc1n1
    @m4nc1n14 жыл бұрын

    I just ordered the Schiit Magni 3+ and the Heresy lol (2.4w at 32ohm btw)

  • @BixxPlays
    @BixxPlays4 жыл бұрын

    hey Z do you still have these if so i was wondering since theyr also marketed as pre-amps what happens if you pre-amp one into the other?

  • @CarAudioInc

    @CarAudioInc

    4 жыл бұрын

    that's how corona started

  • @Assimilator702
    @Assimilator7024 жыл бұрын

    Hmmm. My Magni 3 barely gets warm. With certain earphones it does at times but I’ve been burning in my Moondrop Starfield iems since Saturday night and my Magni 3 is cool. My Asgard 2 gets hot enough to burn your skin. That goes off the second I’m done using it.

  • @Assimilator702
    @Assimilator7024 жыл бұрын

    Schiit designed them so you have to buy both. They state on their website anyone would be happy with either as their both designed well but to base your purchase on your priority of design topology. I’ll pick up a Heresey to sample my first worthy op amp design.

  • @Ujprom
    @Ujprom4 жыл бұрын

    Hey Zeos, would it be sane to use Tin T2's with these, they are 16 ohms? I bought the Tin after watching your review.

  • @louislu1067

    @louislu1067

    4 жыл бұрын

    I bought the tin t2 as well, they are fantastic values for the money but too bad the fit pretty loose in my ears.

  • @Ujprom

    @Ujprom

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@louislu1067 what amp do you use them with. I have the fiio A1 and they sound good. But wanted to know, if they'd sound any different with more powerful amps. Cheers!

  • @GREGBT69
    @GREGBT694 жыл бұрын

    Awesome. I need that msgni 3+.

  • @C0ffeeKing
    @C0ffeeKing3 жыл бұрын

    Which one would you recommend for the lcd2c? Or any headphone amp for that matter

  • @wouter3652
    @wouter36524 жыл бұрын

    yeah but zeos i have the hd 6xx did you try it with this headphone

  • @turcinovic90
    @turcinovic904 жыл бұрын

    On Schiit's site, picture shows no led indicators on + or jeresy- Who knows what have you tested?

  • @yasserouacha6299
    @yasserouacha62993 жыл бұрын

    Please can you tell me which amp is better suited for Sundara : Topping a50/a50s or schiit heresy. Thank you.

  • @pc_decisions8764
    @pc_decisions87644 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like Zeos run "Heresy" in his review.

  • @Dougie085
    @Dougie0854 жыл бұрын

    So it seems you tested this with the HD600's, I just ordered the HD6XX's and was looking at the Magni and wasn't sure which would be better for these headphones lol. So I'm guessing the heresey should be better for the HD6XX's, at least I would guess it'd be similar to the HD600's.

  • @electroelysium2281

    @electroelysium2281

    4 жыл бұрын

    Or get a Magni 2. I like the Magni 2 better than both of 'em.

  • @doomworship4995

    @doomworship4995

    4 жыл бұрын

    I just ordered the Heresy for my HD650 (modded). I’ll let you know how they sound.

  • @nabilhamza71

    @nabilhamza71

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@doomworship4995 so how do they sound

  • @VidVayder

    @VidVayder

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@doomworship4995 How do they sound then?

  • @doomworship4995

    @doomworship4995

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not enough power. Sounds muddy and vailed to me on the HD650. I have now bought so many cheap solid state amps, and none of them have worked good with the HD650. You need to spend money on a good, and very powerful amp to make them sing. But when you give them power, ohh do they sing. I am going to go ahead and call it. For the HD650/HD6XX you need an OTL Tube Amp. Get the SCHIIT Valhalla or a Darkvoice 336SE. I own both, I like the Darkvoice Better, but only after I spent $80 on tubes. At that price, you can get the Valhalla and need nothing else. But the Darkvoice is more powerful. And if you feel like tube rolling, you only need to purchase a single pre amp tube instead of two. BTW, after having both the Magni 3+ and the Heresy side by side, I have to tell you the Magni3+ sounds better overall. Neutral Warm. While the Heresy is a little shouty. I understand now what Schiit says about better measurements doesn’t always mean better sounding. The Heresy measures as good an distortion free and low noise as way more expensive amps. Yet the Magni3+ is more enjoyable and less fatiguing. So that gets my vote. But if your main headphones are the HD650/HD6XX? Get a Darkvoice.

  • @tylerscott1853
    @tylerscott18534 жыл бұрын

    Would you choose the Archel2 PRO by Geshelli Labs or the Heresy?

  • @redhorse6792
    @redhorse67924 жыл бұрын

    Amazon link you added the image shows that the Magin 3+ has a power light on the PCB board and hole in the case!!!! So why not on your one???

  • @FragEightyfive

    @FragEightyfive

    4 жыл бұрын

    Could be a review sample? My older Magni has it.

  • @michaelpowell4823

    @michaelpowell4823

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not only that it shows the Heresy not having a front power light. Then you go to the Schiit website and neither have a front light. Its all just weird.

  • @subbot8077

    @subbot8077

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@michaelpowell4823 just got my heresy about two weeks ago, it doesn't have a front power light smh 😔 realistically though it's hardly a deal-breaker, just a little nice-to-have that's missing. There's still a light on the PCB that shines through the vent holes in the top.

  • @enterhishead5693
    @enterhishead56933 жыл бұрын

    i have the heresy and my gain switch will go up and down but doesnt stay in either position, and only actually changes the gain 1 out of every 15-20 tires if i hold it in the up or down position bc it wont stay. can i fix this or is it trash

  • @homeboi808
    @homeboi8084 жыл бұрын

    The Heresy is about as good as the Atom, but has a bit more power depending on impedance. The two models have different volume control accuracy, hence why the similar power in different gains may sound a bit different.

  • @JOSE263
    @JOSE2634 жыл бұрын

    Lmao nice zeos ur great!!!

  • @bakerrr333
    @bakerrr3334 жыл бұрын

    Sooo which ones work best for hd600s lol. Great video btw

  • @m4nc1n1
    @m4nc1n14 жыл бұрын

    i am torn between these 2. Honestly i think i will just get the Heresy simply on looks lol. I have the SPH9500's right now but will be getting others. Oh i also have the WH100XM3's and a EarStudio ES100 MK2

  • @ChicagoRob2
    @ChicagoRob23 жыл бұрын

    I have both amps, and they are different. The Magni 3+ is definitely smoother.

  • @seanmangan2769
    @seanmangan27694 жыл бұрын

    Z, what is that little silver cube over on the left hand side of your desk??

  • @ZReviews

    @ZReviews

    4 жыл бұрын

    check yesterdays video

  • @bassyak10
    @bassyak104 жыл бұрын

    New to the audio world. I’m planning on getting DT 770 Pro 80 ohm and the Modi/Heresey stack to pair with my iPhone as a daily desktop user. Am I thinking about this correctly?

  • @elementzero7083

    @elementzero7083

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes, although get the Custom Studio instead of the DT 770.

  • @elementzero7083

    @elementzero7083

    3 жыл бұрын

    @_Tofyter _ Either would be fine, heard the Magni 3+ is a bit warmer in tone than the Heresy but they are mostly the same.

  • @USMCPFC1
    @USMCPFC14 жыл бұрын

    This would be my first headphone amp ever. Along with my first dad ever. Which do you recommend. I currently have a pair of sennheiser 598 planning on getting something better later on budget 300-400. I want to know what would you recommend, between the shiit magni or shiit vali? Then between shiit modi or shiit modi multibit? I plan on later getting the shiit vidar and a pair of either keff ls50 or svs ultra and tying them all together. What would you recommend. I appreciate any answer I can get from anyone. This would be my first foray into the audiophile world someone please help.

  • @Torresgamingchannel

    @Torresgamingchannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Honestly if I had 400 I would get a 789 and a beater dac like the modi. I'm rocking heresy and modi and I'm fine with it, but that would be my next jump up.

  • @matthewescamilla123
    @matthewescamilla1234 жыл бұрын

    What DAC are you using with this setup?

  • @marley720
    @marley7202 жыл бұрын

    I know this is old but my sundaras sound terrible using the 3+ with a low input voltage, but with higher input voltage it sounds phenominal. Low gain has ever so slightly more soundstage but less detail.

  • @raybbo
    @raybbo3 жыл бұрын

    OK So im looking to get the SMSL Sanskrit 10th and these to power a Beyerdynamic DT 880 pro 600 ohm. Will this do?

  • @MuahMan
    @MuahMan4 жыл бұрын

    So can someone help a guy out. I don't consider myself an audiophile. My nicest headphones are Beyerdynamic TI's and some AKG limited editions. I also have some cheaper headphones like the 1More Quad Earbuds and some V-Moda M100 Crossfades (My favorites). I am on my computer 18-20 hours a day. I need a headphone Amp/Dac combo that I can use with music and gaming. I have to be @ 100% volume to be medium volume on the BD and and AKG, even the smaller more efficient ones don't get loud enough. I'm leaning towards the Schitt Fulla 3 Gaming, but I can't really figure if even it can power my 600 ohm headphones properly. Should I been looking at the Heresy? Does that even have a DAC? Also, do modern 2019/2020 high end gaming motherboards have better DACs? Do I even need a DAC?

  • @xXThorsMjolnirXx
    @xXThorsMjolnirXx4 жыл бұрын

    @zeos what rca splitters are those they look good

  • @MasterGunZ

    @MasterGunZ

    4 жыл бұрын

    I second that

  • @rdtstudios
    @rdtstudios4 жыл бұрын

    Zeos I bought the hd 6xx and got the jds atoms but not sure if those are the best for the hd6xx, please help lol

  • @xElectricZzGaming
    @xElectricZzGaming4 жыл бұрын

    I have the Magni 3+ driving my 58x jubilees, I think the low gain sounds warmer and more interesting because it seems to distort the sound a bit but the high gain comes out clear and detailed. Glad I got it as my first headphone amp, really happy with it.

  • @tinocabral4201

    @tinocabral4201

    4 жыл бұрын

    I am getting the jubilees and couldn’t decide which amp to get so this is good news for me

  • @etcetera662

    @etcetera662

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing. I've got a Magni 3+ and a pair of 58x Jubilees on the way to me and this video had me a little worried I should have gotten a Heresy.

  • @crazyprayingmantis5596
    @crazyprayingmantis55964 жыл бұрын

    Note to ALL headphone amp designers. Put the volume knob on the opposite side, away from the headphone jack!!!!!! Thank you

  • @x-ray3431

    @x-ray3431

    Жыл бұрын

    Use your left hand to turn the knob.

  • @bhavinderjassar6394
    @bhavinderjassar63944 жыл бұрын

    We need a budget closed/open over ear headphone shootout.

  • @nosegod8094

    @nosegod8094

    4 жыл бұрын

    Well, we already know the open back winner, so maybe just a closed back

  • @nosegod8094

    @nosegod8094

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Noneya409 yeah shp 9500 (haven't tried 9600) for like $60 they're crazy good. Honestly best open back under $100, if not $150

  • @vicentevargas6755
    @vicentevargas67554 жыл бұрын

    If instead of buying both, and sell one, get the Asgard 3 which is 200 bucks?

  • @tenveri

    @tenveri

    4 жыл бұрын

    You can buy both and return one though, pretty hassle-free. effectively saving $100

  • @FabioKasper

    @FabioKasper

    4 жыл бұрын

    You'll have to discount shipping costs, which you'll be paying at all times. My hint when purchasing from Schiit: concentrate (plan) your purchase. It's $20-30 per shipping and that cost sums up over time. PS.: At amazon, shipping cost is embedded in final price (at least the times I've checked).

  • @selbi182

    @selbi182

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@tenveri Not so simple for those living outside America. European Schiit resellers are rare, understocked, and have very shady return policies.

  • @pblogic007

    @pblogic007

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@FabioKasper You can buy these from amazon prime. They are 119 but you won't pay return shipping and you'll get the full 119 back on the one you return. Much smarter way to try them.

  • @Ahcelaht
    @Ahcelaht2 жыл бұрын

    Which is best for the HD560S? Lol, and for gaming?

  • @gr3ywolf144
    @gr3ywolf1442 жыл бұрын

    Which one would you recommend for planars? I have the Hifiman Edition XS. Thanks

  • @popops3
    @popops33 жыл бұрын

    Can you or someone suggest me a good dac amp combo for my dt1990 pro mostly for music for gaming I have a soundblaster g6 and if upgrading this for music would actually make a difference. I have no idea about dac and amps

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