SBC Media Player Group Test
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Video playback tested on eight single board computers, including the Raspberry Pi 3 B+, Rock64, LattePanda Alpha, Asus Tinker Board, Odroid XU4, LattePanda V1.0, NanoPi M4, and the Khadas VIM 2.
All SBCs are shown playing the same local 1080p 30fps file, and then streaming the same file via KZread. But which one is the winner?
My review videos of each of the SBCs on test are available as follows:
Raspberry Pi 3 B+: • Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+
Rock64: • ROCK64 4K USB 3.0 SBC
LattePanda Alpha: • LattePanda Alpha: Wind...
Asus Tinker Board: • Asus Tinker Board
Odroid XU4: • ODROID-XU4 Octa-Core SBC
LattePanda V1.0: • LattePanda Windows 10 ...
NanoPi M4: • NanoPi M4 : RK3399 SBC...
Khadas VIM 2: • Khadas VIM2 SBC & Andr...
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Now we're watching KZread on KZread
@LAHegarty
5 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking the same thing.
@Jako1987
5 жыл бұрын
I am reading a comment in a yt about watching yt in a yt
@ian_b
5 жыл бұрын
In the future you will be able to watch KZread on KZread, on KZread. On the Moon.
Thanks again for all of your work! It seems sometimes you are reading my mind, or peaking over my shoulder for projects that I'm working on.. Great timing!
Love me some SBC. And Chris. Your the only guy that tests all the ones I care about. I have learned about more SBC for you then anyone. And bought some.
Very nice video Prof. Chris!! Excellent comparison of the different SBC boards! Thanks so much for these very well done videos!!
Great comparison testing! I've heard others talk about video playback performance mostly in terms of hardware specs, so it's great to see a reality test with all the nuances of OS and settings. Thx!
Thank you for the large amount of time and effort in producing this video. Was very enlightening.
Thank you Chris, I really expected some of these SBCs to perform much better. Real world testing all the way :) Hope you have a great week ahead: Thumbs in the air 👍👍👍
I always love your videos Chris. I have bought a Psion Series 7 (and loving it) and now I want to try out building a SBC. Thank you for inspiring me.
Very informative as per usual and well presented. One small point though regarding variables. On the KZread tests there was bluetooth active on some demonstrations and apparently not on others
@ExplainingComputers
5 жыл бұрын
Good point, I should have disabled that.
Seems I guessed the winners! LattePanda Alpha and Rock64. Feel proud!:) Brilliant and of great interest video. I admire such tests. Thanks!
A very nice test, thanks for all that work you put in your videos.
Excellent round-up of SBCs and their ability to playback video. Your video, as always, is provides an excellent comparison of products with thoughtful methodology for testing. I was considering Khadas VIM for a simple media player, but perhaps I need to look more closely at Rock64. Keep up the excellent work you do on KZread.
@ExplainingComputers
5 жыл бұрын
The VIM2 is a great out-of-box solution. I did not expect the Rock64, running Android, to end up being my recommendation here -- but the results spoke for themselves.
@ravagingwolverine
5 жыл бұрын
Another commenter mentioned the XU4 being quite good with Android TV. I only mention it since the Vim board seems to be closer in price, so it may be worth considering. Rock64 is interesting option with features like USB3 at that price level.
Great video as always Mr. Barnatt! I really like your presentation style. The unexpected results were exciting as I figured performance should've been quite predictable. Like most comments, I must include a slight nag: throwing in a Pi Zero-W would've been neat, especially assuming the 3B+ optimizations also help the slower and smaller part.
Thanks for this. This is exactly the sort of thing I was looking for when planning to make my android media player.
This was a nice comparison, and I'm glad I watched it. To share a bit of my experience I started with a RasPi 3 because I didn't know a lot about SBCs, then I got into it and learnt a fair bit about those, and about all the bottlenecks of the RasPi. I was disappointed that it struggled to playback 720p youtube at the time and 1080p with vlc was nowhere to be seen. So I started studying every option and while I was not looking for something specific and my budget was limited, spending some time watching your videos and seeing the specs for 45€ lead me to get a Rock64. At those specs I thought it could be a light desktop machine for when I just need to browse the web and watch videos. I was quite disappointed by the experience on debian/ununtu mate with no hardware acceleration, especially given that at work we got a Tinker board for some project and Tinker OS was doing pretty well. However I also tested it with android, using it more as a media player like this, and this worked really nice, so nice I was actually surprised given how slow it was on debian. At that time I was doing an internship and bringing my laptop to work, and sometimes by pure laziness I left my laptop at work and just watched movies and youtube videos on my Rock64, which was great for this kind of use. So I can confirm that the Rock64 is a great experience when used as a media player, but you shouldn't consider it for use with a desktop OS. The android version provided reads NTFS external hard drives fine, which is great with the USB 3.0 port, and considering phone android doesn't read it. And the playstore is a nice touch, even though a lot of apps won't be available for this board. One drawback I have to point is the keyboard switch to my french layout didn't stick when rebooted if I remember correctly ... and the youtube app didn't support mouse cursor and typing in the research bar, so you would actually be better using the youtube plugin for Kodi.
@ExplainingComputers
5 жыл бұрын
Useful post, thanks for sharing.
As a relative newcomer to your channel I am really enjoying your videos mate - thank you.
@ExplainingComputers
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your kind feedback.
What a brilliant example of software and hardware codependency. This beautiful mixture of OSes, CPU powers, SBC's differences and similarities produce such {un}expected results! Pure joy to watch. Thanks Chris, great video, great experiment!
@ExplainingComputers
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Elvira. Always good to hear from you here. :)
@elviraeloramilosic9813
5 жыл бұрын
ExplainingComputers My fingers just fly on keyboard when it comes to commenting EC channel content. It is worthy.
WOW! From my perspective, surprising results. Really appreciated this video. Thanks!
The Latte Panda Alpha costs almost more than my desktop and laptop combined Thank you for the video! This is just the comparison I needed. BUT, I would of also liked to of seen gaming performance too.
This video could not of been uploaded at a better time as I am In the market for a new SoC board for running dietpi. As my current install of pi-hole is using up 95% of the RAM on my raspberry pi B+. Thanks for the video Chris.
Thanks. No Stanley the knife or Mr. Scissors opportunities in the video is understanding. You will get 'you should have" or "you could have...s" from those with a bias. Good comparisons all in all.
Congrats on 400K
@ExplainingComputers
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. :) It has been a good afternoon.
Great video and very informative as always Chris 👍
Another great video ! I just play down converted 2k videos to mpeg1 / vcd on my 2016 chip pocket pc ! Looks outstanding !
Great Video - and also a great timing for it! I (re-)watched a lot of your SBC videos in the last days, because I wanted to upgrade my Raspbian Pi with a more powerful device - just for some kind of "personal scientific explorations" with other SBCs :). During the tour through your great review section, I really liked the Tinker Board (S), the NanoPi, the Odroid and the Rock64. So.... I'm a little bit shocked about this results, because this is something I wouldn't have expected, just with the hardware specs in my mind. Many thanks for this not far from realife usage tests! I guess, I stop my plans, until we know more about the pi4.... or pi² or however its name will be. Addition: Did you know, how hard it is to get your hands on one of these SBCs (except for the Tinker and Raspberry Pi) in Germany? That's more horrifying than the test results in this video :D
Great video, thanks for your efforts. Just wish you had tried the Android OS on the Tinker. My Tinker will be arriving on my doorstep along with a Pi 3 B+ in a couple of days with the intent of getting a Kodi box out of the deal. I've never played with SBC's before, but have had Linux based machines for many years and I use Android phones and tablets so I am familiar with both. I will test both SBC's myself and decide which one will be my media center and which one will be the toy. I had a Android TV years ago, and my TV is the dumb one, so I miss having that computer hooked up to it. Instead of buying the current crop of Android TV, they don't even call it that anymore, but I've decided to "tinker" with a home brewed solution. Your videos on KZread are a great source of information. I appreciate that you tell it like it is according to your test results. I saw some grumbling in the comments about you favoring the Tinker in the past, but you really don't play favorite to any one platform. Keep up the great work.
Как всегда отличное сравнение. Сам пользуюсь LattePanda Alpha и вполне доволен. Спасибо за проделанную работу.
Nice to see some high quality content!
Great video is always but I'm wondering what spec is required for optimum h 265 playback. I tried it on an old dual core PC recently and it was very jerky
I love these comparison videos! I'm thinking that the software optimization is actually more important than the hardware, although better hardware can overcome mediocre software. Arguably, the slowest hardware in this test was one of the best performers because of optimised software. If all distros were reasonably optimal for the ARM video hardware, all these tests would show only hardware differences, like memory capacity.
This is just amazing how SBCs have become. Everything a giant tower PC can do is now done by a tiny SBC that uses 95% less power. Great video ExplainingComputers! :D Edit: I may want to invest getting a LattePanda Alpha (or the original), Raspberry Pi 3 B+ or Khadas VIM2.
Is the latte panda alpha available for purchase in the UK? Do you think a external GPU could be added to it? I read recently that it is possible to add an external GPU to the NUC mini computers via the thunderbolt port. The alpha model looks as though it would be capable of running an application such as Blender. I have been able to run Blender on the Raspberry Pi 3B+ but can only really work in wire frame mode. I think the raspberry pi will always be a favourite for me. I have a total of six of them now :)
@ExplainingComputers
5 жыл бұрын
The LattePanda Alpha can be ordered from DFRobot in China to the UK, but I don't know of a direct UK supplier. Blender I am sure will run, and an external GPU can be added via a M.2 adaptor. :)
Thanks Chris for this great comparison.
A fine video that must have required hours of work. Much appreciated.
Very interesting report. I now use my Lattepanda Alpha as one of my main desktop computers. It's setup in my living room as a entertainment system. I find that it's to expensive to be used development board but rather as a small PC.
@ExplainingComputers
5 жыл бұрын
I was running a load of Passmark benchmarks yesterday, and found the LattePanda Alpha beats the i3 I am typing on now, and which I run my business on! :)
@robertcs68
5 жыл бұрын
@@ExplainingComputers Amazing!
@pirateman1966
5 жыл бұрын
Dale, since you bought the Alpha for the same price as a good PC, may I interest you in a water front property in Florida?
@NewAgeDIY
5 жыл бұрын
PirateKitty Sorry already picked up 2 lots at 1/2 price what a view! The PadaAlpha is extremely expensive SBC but it also is a very cool small form factor device. One day I will put it into one of my robotics project but for now it's just a conversation piece running Windows 10 Pro. Can't wait until I get my pixiglas case built so everyone can see it clearly an ask the question " you paid how much! " 😂
hi friend, do you know sbc include nand tsop48/only pin tsop48 with minimal 1GB RAM? except orange pi R2, orange pi zero 2.
cool !! just on time back form a computer fair Here in Antwerp city, always like these fairs to find new or old hardware stuf.......nice sunday !!
You didn't display the stats for nerds with the first Android desktop. Although it looked plenty fine. I'm always fascinated by your videos. Thumbs up!
It would be nice to see how they perform when playing back media on Kodi from desktop and LibreElec/OpenElec
Would you be able to do a test of which of the x86 boards can manage to run Windows 98/98SE?
Great Video ,, Really enjoyed that one. Just a pitty Mr Scissors never put in an appearance.
@ExplainingComputers
5 жыл бұрын
Nothing to open this week . . .
I would be more interested in exclusive SBC Media centres eg: running libreelec as sbcs are the perfect platform for dedicated media centres. You could look at the perfect remote to go with it too like the ps3 BD remote. PS: Love what you're doing here Chris!
Hi Chris, Thank you for yet another interesting video. Could you maybe explain the differences between the several platforms and maybe foremost the different players. Some commenters report very good playback using Kodi and others or even just a setting in VLC. I’m very curious why there are such huge differences. Is it just drivers?
What is the difference between sbc's and those minix mini computers like the minix x7???
Could you include a link to the KZread test video you are using?
Thanks I ordered the B+ board just the other day.
Yes on my raspberry pi 3 same hang on streaming video on raspbian but no stuttering on osmc so I was thinking to use heatsink , so I was wondering is it worth it ?
@ExplainingComputers
5 жыл бұрын
A heatsink may make a difference is the Pi is throttling.
I had to smile at your blue heatsink comment. There's definitely something oddly appealing about heatsinks.
I’m curious to know how well the media playback is on a raspberry pi with android installed as the operating system? Or does android not perform well with the raspberry pi SBC?
@williamrutter3619
5 жыл бұрын
Android is bad on the pi, I got a few good second of Chris at a good frame rate, then it crashed 😀, I love this tinkering, even if it doesn't work.
Hi Chris, I hate to offer more advice, but for those tests that showed no video using VLC on the local file, using the Linux desktop, it may simply be that VLC is choosing the automatic video output. Try changing to, for example, X11 Video Output (XCB), and re-testing. I can't guarantee improvement, but the symptoms are exactly the same as I've found in VMs, and this trick worked. If you then get good video, but stuttering audio, forcing the audio output (I usually choose pulseaudio) will fix that, as well.
@ExplainingComputers
5 жыл бұрын
Good tip, thanks for sharing.
@animauk5
5 жыл бұрын
I have found mpv to have better performance video playback. VLC is still cool to have YT stream support out the box.
Great job 👍 loved the video and thank you for the class.
I want to know what kind best mini box computer support for Open Simulator only on osgrid.org ? I don’t use other app. Only 1 for Open Simulator region SIM. Raspberry PI 4 B or other computer I need to know best computer running fastest?
Informative and entertaining video. Thanks.
YET another video, great work!
@ExplainingComputers
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
Great informative video as always, thanks.
Chris, this isn't exactly on topic but do these SBCs use TTL or CMOS voltage level ranges on the GPIO pins? Thanks.
@ExplainingComputers
5 жыл бұрын
It varies across the boards: most have 3.3V GPIO voltages. LattePandas higher as I recall. I think 5V. But may be wrong!
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Is there any media player software, like say, Kodi that would run on all of these boards? I use the Raspberry Pi 3 B+ but the limiting factor seems to be the lack of gigabit ethernet. Will Kodi run on any that have gigabit wired connection available?
@ExplainingComputers
5 жыл бұрын
Most of these boards will run Kodi, and pretty well in most cases. There was a limit on how many options I tested. The Kodi KZread app is also not official, unlike the Android one.
@HauptwerkHardware
5 жыл бұрын
@@ExplainingComputers Great. Thanks. :-)
Have you done a test for audio andstreaming on Qobuz etc? If not we wait you. Thank you
Hi Chris. One question though. Can any of the other lower points sbc run kodi? If so, will that make a bigger difference since that is an OS designed for media?
@ExplainingComputers
5 жыл бұрын
Many will run Kodi, though in my experience the Kodi KZread stream is limited to 720p, regardless of the settings.
Was the lattepanda current on the video drivers? I had to update the video drivers which fixed a lot of issues with the board.
@ExplainingComputers
5 жыл бұрын
As far as I am aware, yes. It had just spent two hours picking up Windows updates too! :)
What’s the best SBC with a full HDMI slot for under $150 or £100? I want to use it as my media player mostly.
@ExplainingComputers
5 жыл бұрын
Probably the Khadas VIM2, or the LattePanda. The Khadas can dual boot Android (for media playback) and Linux: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nq6DmNGamsbLl8Y.html
I'd love to see the same show-down but focused on RDP. Which SBC's will work to RDP and which work best with RDP. Specifically, not which will allow me to RDP to a server or desktop but which work to connect too.
Thanks for the video. Let's do a quick analysis of the results. RPi 3 Chromium performance can be improved by enabling hardware decoding. This can be done by tweaking browser configuration flags. The original Panda struggles in YT likely due to underpowered CPU. Judging by their video playback performance in Linux, Rockchip SBCs probably lack not only hardware decoding but accelerated OpenGL support as well (if OpenGL was working, that CPU should be able to handle 1080p decoding in software). Not a surprise here. Rockchip, like many other ARM chipmakers, cares little about Linux outside of Android. OpenGL support is probably fixable, but without hardware decoding, it's not worth the hassle.
@VolkerHett
5 жыл бұрын
Whenever I see a MALI GPU I know, this board will be for non media workloads only.
lack of proper drivers is a common problem for many Open Source distros btw, could you post a link on your test video on KZread so we could test our own builds
So many sbc so much iffy software hmm is there any with decent software and a good volume off RAM . Or for both it's the Lattepandas . Or vim
Considering Local OS, Raspberry Pi 3 B+ has nailed it. I'm impressed how it can work 720p better compared to other powerful boards at 1080p.
windows 10 AND using chrome on 2GB of RAM? what are you, some kind of monster? this is basically my go-to source for everything SBC's, i have a few pi's i play around with but now looking for something i can velcro to the back of my kitchen TV for media (currently using a laptop, takes up too much counter space, tired of the cables going everywhere) so of course i enjoyed this video, thank you for making it (and the related review videos), now i know im most likely going to go with the LattePanda V1.0, gotta have that USB 3.0, thats the only reason it won out over the Khadas
How about Rock Pi4B, does this board perform similar to the Rock64?
@ExplainingComputers
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, the RockPi 4B performance is very good.
I wonder how much time Chris has spent to produce (make + edit + upload) this video. Maybe a whole day? Whatever it is, the effort is very appreciated.
@ExplainingComputers
5 жыл бұрын
About four days! :)
@Chris.Brisson
5 жыл бұрын
Remember, not all of the boards worked well out of the box. Chris mentions that time was spent trying to get boards to a state of readiness. That's where the hidden effort comes in, doing the software integration for these SBCs, especially when not even the OS is onboard from the factory, and the OS alone brings the board to its knees with limited hardware resources.
I would also like to see how these handle 4K video, if possible.
Video playback is all good, but what about those emulators? RetroArch?
Excellent work, as per usual. Do you think Raspberry Pi's will ever sufficiently catch up to modern browser-based graphics demands? Is streaming 1080p something they're earnestly working towards?
@ExplainingComputers
5 жыл бұрын
A Pi 4 may do this. Even raising the RAM to 2GB would probably help a lot.
On my Raspberry 1080p from KZread works smoothly. I have a question did enyone use dosbox on Raspbian os, I can't find conf file to change fulls reen resolution when I press alt+enter its still small window in the middle....
@ExplainingComputers
5 жыл бұрын
It is a DOSBox issue, linked to native DOS resolutions. You can set a scaling factor though (eg 1.5x).
@kamillisowski2931
5 жыл бұрын
@@ExplainingComputers Could You tell me how to sort this out? On my Linux mint it's was much easier Just play with conf file
@ExplainingComputers
5 жыл бұрын
It is a while since I played with this! As I recall, there is a config file to edit.
@kamillisowski2931
5 жыл бұрын
@@ExplainingComputers problem is I can't find any files for dosbox except icon to open program
Do you think I should wait for the raspberry pi 4 or should I jump on a 3 B+?I really want one and was watching your 3B+ video and thought about what you said (maybe I should wait for a Pi 4 in this year). Idk 😐, I was thinking of getting one and using it to its full potential.
@ExplainingComputers
5 жыл бұрын
The 3B+ with the latest Raspbian is a very nice SBC . . . and is avaialable today!
The Lattepanda Alpha and Khadas VIM 2 are definitely front-runners in the desktop-replacement class. I'm stoked to see your review of the Udoo Bolt (Ryzen-based SBC) when it comes out!
Single board computers have gained a lot of ground in the last few years. With the LattePanda Alpha at around $400 that can replace a tower computer. Can't wait to see what will come in the next 5 years.
Thank you Chris very enlightening as I have often thought about buying an SBC as an alternative to a mainstream android TV box.I would have thought media playback was a basic function but apparently not and because I often think in reverse logic does this not make the cheapest android TV box (price comparable) the better SBC as they often offer better value as they have larger amounts of RAM and other hardware features such as a case, cooling solution and power adaptor. The only issue I see is hacking the box to install a different OS which does not seem that hard.
6:29 Did you try comparing performance with 720p in Chromium?
Chris, I love your channel and watch all your teaching videos. I do t comment much but, I must say you have to give the nod to the Raspberry Pi 3B+. It was the least expensive and plays great in 720p. I guess I can’t tell then difference between 720 &1080 anyway. Especially if I use a 32 inch monitor or display
@ExplainingComputers
5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I did give a nod to the Pi 3 B+ -- great (as always) in terms of value. And 720p is fine for most people most of the time! :)
Retro Arena's Odroid XU3-XU4 image can install Kodi, and KZread addon is supported. I was able to run a stream of the new Star Wars Jedi trailer for the new game at 1080 @ 60fps, and it ran as smoothly as it does on my i7-8700k with 1080 Ti desktop.
Certain videos have HD at 60fps, using H264ify, there is a setting to force the video to run at 30fps which is much more conservative.
Curious. On the Linux based units that don't play the video locally, have you tried using VLC as the local player instead of the default media player? Also, you might try the Odroid C2. Cheers...
@ExplainingComputers
5 жыл бұрын
I did a lot of off-screen tests. VLC is not hardware accelerated except on the Pi.
I really enjoy your content. Just wondering if you've had a chance to look into or evaluate the nVidia Jetson Nano SBC. It's available directly from nVidia for $99 US.
@ExplainingComputers
5 жыл бұрын
Hi Thomas. You raise an excellent question! :) My first Jetson Nano video uploads this Sunday (April 28).
@thomasburnett4712
5 жыл бұрын
ExplainingComputers Outstanding! I look forward to it! By the way, I'm an amateur who has been building my own computers since 1980, so I really enjoyed your overview of changing technology over the years.
Hi Chris, first of all thank you very much for another very useful video! I have a question. Have you used SD card or SSD drive with RPi 3b+ and what type exactly. I am asking because I am using quite fast SanDisk Extreme 64Gb SD card and in my case Chromium loads 3 times slower than in your video. And small suggestion, I watched this video at RPi 3b+ on youtube via Chromium at 1080p and the share of dropped frames was much lower. I am not sure why, but the reason may be that I have enabled some gpu acceleration flags in Chromium manually. Basically, I opened chrome://gpu and chrome://flags and tried to enable them one by one. For example, chrome://gpu says that I have Video Decode Hardware accelerated. PS: Would love to see video comparing the performance of Android on different SBCs.
@ExplainingComputers
5 жыл бұрын
An SBC Android video is a good idea -- noted! :) I always use SanDisk Extreme SC cards on SBCs -- a stock item for me. Usually 16 or 32GB. Interesting point on the GPU acceleration flags, I will try that. :)
I'm not sure about the sbcs chosen for this Group. With the abundance of Fair to ReallyGood sbcs for $30-80 to choose from... does a $400 board really belong in that group?
@ExplainingComputers
5 жыл бұрын
I explained at the start of the video that the LattePanda Alpha was there to provide a baseline (and it is also there because it has featured a couple of times on this channel, so links back to previous videos). I have about 30 SBCs to choose from and that I have reviewed here previously -- not all of those in the world! :) There are always practicalities to consider . . .
Thanks for the comparison.
I have a 4K TV for a few years now and it's not even Smart TV with an android but it has a very nice 4k playback from pendrive. I wonder why this boards have issue with 1080p while a cheap TV can handle 4x the resolution with no problem?
@ravagingwolverine
5 жыл бұрын
The trouble some boards had with 1080p is due to driver availability in Linux. That's why some boards saw improvement in Android, because the closed-source drivers are included there. Definitely, some of those boards have the hardware to handle 4k.
Small size and low cost are key, but two other criteria are fundamental for media player purchase decision: power consumption and noise. Power consumption is more of a concern for an always-on media server. I suppose all of these boards operate with such low power draw as to not raise a concern, but I would give bonus points to a board that could stream 1080p at 10 watts compared to 50 watts. Some of the boards include a fan, and I'm thinking the fan gets a workout when streaming 1080p, so noise could be an issue. Related to both power draw and noise is thermal performance. Do some boards get so hot under this test as to threaten the health of the board?
Highly entertaining 😊 I figured the rock 64 would do well in Android. It is a very smooth lite OS. Would be perfect for a media center.
The best. Question. I have a sbc Riotboard from nxp-newark. I would like to install a version of debian or raspbian. Hoe can i build a functional image of this os. Should i build tvis in a linux pc or can i made this in windows or mac pc?. Thanks.
@ExplainingComputers
5 жыл бұрын
I don't know that SBC I'm afraid.
Thanks for another informative video. I streamed it from my android tablet to my Raspberry pi running Libreelec / Kodi 17.6. Would love to see the same with boards supporting 10 bit / 4K / h265 hardware decoding.
@ExplainingComputers
5 жыл бұрын
I may well do a 4K follow-up.
Having watched the video and read a few of the comments, I wonder if there’s an issue with OS optimization for some of the SBC’s you tested. It seems as though the raspbian system has been optimized (sorry about the American spelling) for video playback in its current version, whereas many other more powerful boards aren’t seeing the same developments. My experiences with earlier versions of raspbian have been similar to what I saw with other systems that you showed running Linux distros. Are there things that have been or can be done to optimize video performance on these other boards? Could this be a topic for a future EC video?
@ExplainingComputers
5 жыл бұрын
Most certainly -- very often an OS has not been optimized for an SBC's hardware. This is very much why the Raspberry Pi stays on top -- worse hardware than most, but backed by the Raspberry Pi Foundation, who devote a lot of time to software development.
Thanks Chris, geeky benchmarks mean nothing to a simpleton like myself, but this real World testing is excellent.
@ExplainingComputers
5 жыл бұрын
I am glad that somebody understands what I was trying to do here! :) I always favour real world testing to show how a product actually works (or not!).
@zzstoner
5 жыл бұрын
@@ExplainingComputers Thanks for these practical real-world tests. If there was anything missing at all, it would have been to show an estimated CPU Usage benchmark to also show how the video playback stresses the various CPUs.
For the android testing could you not have used a browser to view the youtube video like you did with other boards?
@ExplainingComputers
5 жыл бұрын
I could. I did not think of that! Very good point.
@AlanLifeson
5 жыл бұрын
@@ExplainingComputers It was an excellent video regardless. I suppose these days more and more media is consumed through apps rather than browsers.
On the Android versions, couldn't you have opened KZread from the browser to test the online video performance?
@ExplainingComputers
5 жыл бұрын
Very good point! :)
What kernel are you using for the Rock64? Running the recent Recalbox (beta 3.1) and 60fps 4k video on Kodi is perfect. I suspect you are using a very old kernel.
@ExplainingComputers
5 жыл бұрын
This may be true. I have not updated the kernel from the image downloads on the Pine64 website.
So Chris. Tinker board? Anything that can redeem it? Alternative softwares?
@ExplainingComputers
5 жыл бұрын
Potentially. The hardware is very good. Kodi as I recall may play KZread better. I didn't go there in this video as the KZread app is not officially supported.
Good software matters a great deal with video playback. On raspberry pi 3 running kodi on libreelec you can play 1080p h.265 24 fps with the built in software decoder. It can't handle very high bit rate files but even a bluray file compressed in handbrake's h.265 preset will play fine.
I have a question about the Raspberry Pi and salvaged touchscreens. I wasn't sure if there was a better spot or if I could just ask here. Here goes anyways. So I have 2 Nextbook 10.1 i bought a few years ago brand new. My mom's got serviced and still died again after being serviced. My daughter left my tablet on the floor plugged into the charger and it got kicked, on the charge cord. So I Frankensteined them together thinking I could get a decent running one. well... What ever went out on my mom's was related to her mainboard so it's not booting again. but the power connector is soldered to the board, which was why i swapped boards instead of power port. I though it would be like a Laptop power port, I was wrong. what does this all mean? Well while watching your and a few other videos on the Raspberry Pi and other SBCs I was thinking of the useability of the 10.1 Touchscreens from those tablets. it looks like I could use them. the Mainboard is basically a SBC from the looks of it. I was wondering if this was possible and if there was a better place to go for answers or assistance.
@ExplainingComputers
5 жыл бұрын
In theory, a netbook or tablet touchscreen could be used on a Pi. In practice, the Pi has a non-standard LCD interface (unlike some other SBCs), so it would be tricky to achieve, and you would need appropriate driver software on the Pi.
@ratchbrg3882
5 жыл бұрын
@@ExplainingComputers drivers were at the top of my list of concerns.