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Saxophone Repair Topic: Undertstanding Toneholes, Part Three

Its all come down to this! In part three of an epic three-part miniseries on saxophones toneholes, Saxophone repairman Matt Stohrer of www.StohrerMusic.com ups the ante considerably by LEVELING A TONEHOLE LIVE IN THE STUDIO! No stunt doubles, no digital effects, just the raw emotion and adrenaline of making permanent changes to a rare professional vintage saxophone on camera! Seriously though, a tonehole is leveled on camera in this part, and it is pretty informative if a bit lengthy of a process.

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  • @marcobonilla2186
    @marcobonilla21868 жыл бұрын

    An absolutely incredible series of understanding a tone hole. You wouldn't think there is so much involved, but you've brought light to a lot of things for a lot of people by taking the time out to explain the importance of a level tone hole. Thank you very much!

  • @StohrerMusic

    @StohrerMusic

    8 жыл бұрын

    thank you so much, Marco!

  • @JumpingJittaBugs
    @JumpingJittaBugs9 жыл бұрын

    You have shown great care on this job, unlike some others I have seen. So easy to remove too much material. JC

  • @parker550
    @parker5505 жыл бұрын

    Not sure how anyone can dislike this or any other of these tutorial vids, earlier comment on direction of leveling.... Its a few thou, not massive amount! Simply stunning, work, artistry, detail, knowledge and metal work..... I just wish you were in the UK.... Great stuff👍👍🎷

  • @jazfyrski
    @jazfyrski11 жыл бұрын

    Excellent series on tone holes. I was at least "conceptually" familiar with this topic before, but actually seeing the process done to a horn really enhances my understanding. Great work. Thanks!

  • @jonathankammer9078
    @jonathankammer90787 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Matt! Again I keep coming back to your wonderful videos, and I'm leveling my first time hole at this moment- a student Jupiter alto right hand d#

  • @BadPennyDogBoy
    @BadPennyDogBoy10 жыл бұрын

    Great stuff, as usual. Thanks for taking the time and effort to do these videos!

  • @coajrmusic
    @coajrmusic10 жыл бұрын

    Matt, you are a true artist.

  • @StohrerMusic
    @StohrerMusic11 жыл бұрын

    glad to help, and thanks for sitting through all three!

  • @ernietollar
    @ernietollar10 жыл бұрын

    The detail is great, thanks for sharing!

  • @jessesheehan4051
    @jessesheehan40513 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for all the info! Amazing

  • @StohrerMusic

    @StohrerMusic

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad to help!

  • @StohrerMusic
    @StohrerMusic11 жыл бұрын

    sure thing, I'll get to that sometime soon.

  • @user-bm3ic9eo5v

    @user-bm3ic9eo5v

    7 жыл бұрын

    $$

  • @StohrerMusic
    @StohrerMusic11 жыл бұрын

    yes indeed, takes a little more time because the toneholes are thicker/wider and as such the files work even more slowly. but gives a fantastic end result.

  • @gregorydutton349
    @gregorydutton3493 жыл бұрын

    Hi Matt, interesting videos. What is the process for rolled toneholes? I know they are more complicated but wonder how techs get them right. Cheers Greg

  • @birdbreathes8853

    @birdbreathes8853

    2 жыл бұрын

    There is a video by Saxworks where the tech will lightly mallet down the high spots of the rolled part and uses a dent rod to incrementally push the metal up from inside the body so as to not actually remove any material. I also wonder how Matt does it. I love hearing his explanations and methodical process.

  • @mslourenco100
    @mslourenco10011 жыл бұрын

    Thank you guy

  • @yoganisse
    @yoganisse11 жыл бұрын

    Thank You.

  • @elmondo033057
    @elmondo0330576 жыл бұрын

    These are wonderful videos and I have learned so much from them. Thanks so much for posting them. One subject I can't find anywhere is what do you do when a tone hole is bent or dented. How can you fix that? Once again, thanks for posting these great videos!

  • @gcrav
    @gcrav10 жыл бұрын

    Start out by oscillating the file along the high axis. Once there are flat spots on the highs, it prevents the file from rocking into the lows. Works for me.

  • @jonniewadd56

    @jonniewadd56

    5 жыл бұрын

    Certainly would save on those highly expensive tools. you should do a YT video for this.

  • @Blackhatsax55
    @Blackhatsax5511 жыл бұрын

    Nice work Matt, Thank you.

  • @user-bm3ic9eo5v

    @user-bm3ic9eo5v

    7 жыл бұрын

    @

  • @user-bm3ic9eo5v

    @user-bm3ic9eo5v

    7 жыл бұрын

    ooo9o keys NJ

  • @user-bm3ic9eo5v

    @user-bm3ic9eo5v

    7 жыл бұрын

    Iuka

  • @lamontewoodard5440
    @lamontewoodard54403 жыл бұрын

    Hi Matt, would you be willing to answer a question about a damaged soprano saxophone?

  • @thespiritof76..
    @thespiritof76..5 жыл бұрын

    Hi Matt!! I am repairman with 20+ years working on just about everything, from brass to guitars, sheet metal carpentry.... With that said I have little experience with Saxophones. I have a 1931 Buescher True Tone... it is in excellent condition (other than being stored out of case, on a wall for 50yrs!!) I quickly found that every henge rod and screw are frozen up. Is there any hope? I have time patience and experience, but I just would like your opinion, can I disassemble this without ruining the horn? Any tips or links? Or just cautionary advice would be appreciated. Thanks Jay

  • @Ben_andre
    @Ben_andre11 жыл бұрын

    Hi Matt Stohrer who repairs saxophones for a living.

  • @jackmihalski6472
    @jackmihalski647210 жыл бұрын

    Do you recommend a similar procedure for tone holes on a clarinet---especially the larger holes. Thanks

  • @DUBLIN537
    @DUBLIN53711 жыл бұрын

    Matt, can you show a demo of how to install a pad using those flat tone hole rings, thanks

  • @CripDavis
    @CripDavis9 жыл бұрын

    Matt can you suggest where we can purchase quality tone hole files like those you use? Great video by the way, very informative, thanks.

  • @gcrav

    @gcrav

    9 жыл бұрын

    MusicMedic or maybe the manufacturer, jsengineering.

  • @guywithdogs
    @guywithdogs11 жыл бұрын

    Matt - Out of curiosity, what would you charge for this service? It's obviously very time consuming,with having to take everything off the horn and then check each tone hole? Since things are all apart, there's be other work that could be more easily done. But I can't imagine this is really worth doing for a "student" horn. These three videos were really fascinating and informative. I'd heard the terms you described before, but never understood the actual issues. Thanks for making these!

  • @StohrerMusic
    @StohrerMusic11 жыл бұрын

    it can only be done when changing the pads, so its not a service i can charge for a la carte. you do make up a lot of the time it takes though on the padwork end, since padwork is now easier to do well.

  • @taylorwisgerhof5396
    @taylorwisgerhof539611 жыл бұрын

    Can this be done on the old martins with beveled tone hones?

  • @meljazz
    @meljazz11 жыл бұрын

    I meant after dis assembly of course!

  • @Christofer_Robin
    @Christofer_Robin8 жыл бұрын

    Hey Matt, I've seen some people pull toneholes up as opposed to filing down. What are your thoughts on this?

  • @StohrerMusic

    @StohrerMusic

    8 жыл бұрын

    Assuming the body tube is straight and there is no dent pushing the tonehole in, I think it can be useful if done well and done sparingly. There is a simple but well done tool sold by JL Smith for this purpose, in addition to methods involving dent balls etc. Really though, when it comes to toneholes, whether you are filing or raising, you simply need to know very well what you are doing. If you aren't at least a little bit afraid, you probably don't have the proper respect. Leveling toneholes should need done exactly once in a horn's lifetime, barring damage (including refinishing).

  • @goodboyringo9716
    @goodboyringo971611 ай бұрын

    If a tone hole is leveled can the same pad be used or will that pad need to be replaced ?

  • @StohrerMusic

    @StohrerMusic

    11 ай бұрын

    Replace the pad.

  • @williamdaniels512
    @williamdaniels5126 жыл бұрын

    How are you able to tell the tone hole is both level and now leveled in the right direction? (meaning you didn't accidentaly rock of plane and level it, although only very slightly, facing in a poor direction?

  • @StohrerMusic

    @StohrerMusic

    6 жыл бұрын

    William Daniels check with leak light against reverse side of tonehole file (or any other flat disc)

  • @StohrerMusic
    @StohrerMusic10 жыл бұрын

    You'd have to ask a clarinet specialist, I only do saxophones.

  • @kevinngo9138
    @kevinngo91383 жыл бұрын

    Is there some sort of makeshift tool that could replace a tone hole file?

  • @Guitar28000

    @Guitar28000

    3 жыл бұрын

    I made a set using aluminum discs; drilled a hole through the center and cut threads for a bolt with a hex head to go through. You can buy diamond skins or use adhesive sandpaper. I got the disks slightly over-sized and then cut back the excess on a lathe to true the center hole up. They work really well, just like what is available on the market - it's just a bit of a time consuming process.

  • @meljazz
    @meljazz11 жыл бұрын

    How much pressure are you using with your fingers?

  • @StohrerMusic
    @StohrerMusic11 жыл бұрын

    Not very much. The only downside of pressure that is too light is that it takes too long- the downsides of too much pressure is that you can take off too much material, or deform the body tube causing it to spring back up and be unlevel after you finish, or not hold it steady and let the file rock and thus take off material without making it level. So it is best to be cautious and use a fairly light pressure.

  • @Lehsax

    @Lehsax

    6 жыл бұрын

    Good afternoon, please tell me where i can buy this tonehole (8:59)? Thanks from Russia.

  • @meljazz
    @meljazz11 жыл бұрын

    Matt, will you be showing us sax repair techs wannabees how to properly clean an older sax?

  • @RollyPraise
    @RollyPraise5 жыл бұрын

    A pad can be made on Silicone???

  • @mrjp1819
    @mrjp18197 жыл бұрын

    dont really understand.! The toner file should not be exchanged so you use the coarse first and then find the diamond file.? ( Danmark )

  • @rollysj384
    @rollysj3848 жыл бұрын

    should you file rolled toneholes ?

  • @StohrerMusic

    @StohrerMusic

    8 жыл бұрын

    No.