Fun fact: the 'lost cores' modifier doesn't go away even if you win the war. It never goes away... I had a game as Italy where I played until 1949, conquered every major nation formed Rome... and still had the modifier just because I lost Sardinia in 1940... Edit: Wow, I did not expect this many likes, thank you so much!!!!!!!!!!

@DrFerk2

5 ай бұрын

9 years of pain all for nothing.

@justmapping

5 ай бұрын

I also had a very "enjoyable" experience with it. I had a game as Mussolini's Rome until 1972 (yes, I'm a maniac) and conquered 100% of the map. And for 32 YEARS I was accompanied by this debuff because I lost South Tyrol in 1940 when Germany unexpectedly attacked my Yugoslavia.

@Steven-ly9ei

5 ай бұрын

Well, that explains my last Italy game 😂

@TSMmigit

5 ай бұрын

I had a german world conquest and Italy was a puppet and went into civil war around 4-5 times. The game ended in 1963

@whitezombie10

5 ай бұрын

@@TSMmigitif Italians rebelled to every corrupt government they had:

Weren’t there three cores lost? Sardinia, Istria and Piedmont? Because isn’t Piedmont occupied along with Sardinia and majority of Istria? Wished you showed the balance of power after you liberated your cores to really show that the modifier was still there

@ripow455

5 ай бұрын

no because piedmont has genoa as it’s victory point and he controls it which means they don’t occupy it

@carza1592

5 ай бұрын

@@ripow455 ah that explains it! Thought Genoa belonged to another state and piedmont was fully occupied!

@lucavonhabsburg270

5 ай бұрын

What About Zadar

@ishgo1

5 ай бұрын

not a core@@lucavonhabsburg270

@Vaipts

5 ай бұрын

​@@lucavonhabsburg270Thats not a core state

"Mussolini is in trouble..." Yeah he's so bald he gets mistaken for a lighthouse

@noispoi

5 ай бұрын

lmfao

@jksilta9335

5 ай бұрын

I prefer calling my head a "local sun" but to be honest, it is more like the moon, just reflecting the sunlight... So I guess you are just jealous we bald people can do "mooning" in more than one way!

@TheAlmightyToaster01

5 ай бұрын

He gets mistaken as a broken lamppost so some kind Italian partisans decide to "fix it"

The more I watch these disaster, saves the more things I learned about division, design, tactics, and things that help prevent me from sending in a disaster save. Thank you, Bitt3rSteel. I should send in more saves sometime 🤔

Unfortunately, Paradox seems to pretend that the ridiculous balance of power modifiers upon losing even non-core states are intended. It has been reported numerous times and no dev has ever adressed it. But now that a big youtuber has complained about it, theres a slight chance they might do something with it because that seems like the only case they bother to fix a bug that had been around for months.

@OnlyGrafting

5 ай бұрын

The only logic i can think of is that the people wont change their opinion back for being liberated as you've allowed the war to hit their honeland and them be occupied.

@charlesxii2660

5 ай бұрын

​@@OnlyGraftingmight be true (about 'why' it persists) but still a stupid reasoning both realistically and game-mechanics wise. It could even be said that the loss have been brought back gloriously much like controversial ascent of Germany pre-WW2.

@Pulstar232

5 ай бұрын

​@@charlesxii2660perhaps instead of instantly fixing itself, it should decay over the course of a month or two?

@charlesxii2660

5 ай бұрын

@@Pulstar232 You bought me with only idea of it being fixed xD But seriously yeah that could work; it smooth things out gradually and I really like that.

@shyper17

4 ай бұрын

​@@OnlyGraftingYes, but the problem is this happens even when you do actually try to hold. And in that case it's just not realistic. My people praise the heroes who stood up to the Central Powers, even though we initially lost. We also hold our king at the time in high regard. Their success is less important to us than the fact that they fought bravely, all of them, to prevent an occupation. A totally different scenario is the one where you just leave a part od your nation to die. That I would never forgive.

25:30 "They're already dead they just dont know it yet." 🎅🏻🎅🏻🎅🏻✨

@TheMortarWindmill

5 ай бұрын

“Would you do this for a million dollars?” 🎅🎅🎅🐡

@buddy2668

5 ай бұрын

Bro I don't get this joke. Can someone explain?

@SarmaTheFood

5 ай бұрын

@@buddy2668 when i heard him say this i remembered IDKsterling's "This horse is already dead, it just doesnt knows it" video.

1:00 the great council of gamers you mean

I remember this one game i did i was just trying to bring back the pope, and i was doing a co-op. It was non historical and we forgot to put troops on the "alpine confederation border" after we denied them. They then invaded all of northern italy. after 2 years the allies joined them just as i almost gained all my land back. I held for like 5 years in total it was actually kinda fun

Top tip for that encirclement cheese tactic. Instead of what you're doing right now you can press control + rightclick instead. This makes your units attack but not walk in to the tile. So you don't have to manually halt your divisions from entering the tile.

@MrBlamed

5 ай бұрын

I need to try that.

@vertexed5540

5 ай бұрын

If they have any battle plan they won't do supporting attacks. You can set a fall back line around the port and then delete it, and achieve the same thing

@pannik_lucas

5 ай бұрын

@@vertexed5540That explains why despite doing Ctrl + right click and seeing the blue arrow, my divisions move regardless

@whitezombie10

5 ай бұрын

Thank you!

I play Italy all the time and have no idea how he had that many generals with that many units with that much manpower in such a short amount of time with half the manpower focuses still locked

@Bitt3rSteel

5 ай бұрын

Deleted the units that got stuck in the alps. Due to a bug with the impassable terrain, I got the manpower and equipment back despite the being encircled. I also downsized his port garrisons.

@whitezombie10

5 ай бұрын

@@Bitt3rSteelI think he’s talking about the guy’s starting army. It’s too big for Italy

@oliverlimb109

5 ай бұрын

​@@whitezombie10mem

@whitezombie10

5 ай бұрын

@@oliverlimb109what?

@vixxsz8238

5 ай бұрын

It's not, I was on Service by Requirement which is 10% of my 40m population; I had 2m men fielded.@@whitezombie10

Its not a paradox game if the code doesn't break

"theyre already dead they just dont know yet" -Bitt3rsteel 2023

6:45 isn't military police after arms against tyranny has some bonuses to regular infantry? I remember them giving like 20% more division org recovery rate which is really useful for defence

@Bitt3rSteel

5 ай бұрын

Yes, but it's absolutely not worth it for combat units at all

@DBPRODUCTIONS10

5 ай бұрын

​@Bitt3rSteel what about port guards?

Wouldn’t be PDX if every “main” competitor of ww2 didn’t have either a small, boring focus tree, broken mechanics or some annoying “feature” that they implemented. Oh well at least you can play ww2 Vikings now.

21:42 The Bittersteel Squeal 😂 I hope he sees this and trademarks that

@captain_hammer

5 ай бұрын

Bittersqueal

New ideas for the next videos: 1. Rush Roman empire (or Imperial federation with US cores), core all states possible, tag switch to another country, and no war declaration for 1 year. Then, fight the Empire 2. Planes only (which we know usually doesn't work), but you are able to get all plane techs with console 3. 0 casualties. Choose any country, and build the way you want. Then declare war against a major and win with less than 1k casualties (no parachute exploit against France or letting allies win) 4. Italy Max Cores: Play with italy, do Roman Empire and core everything, then loose territy civil war and go democratic. Form the EU, and abadon colonies to get African cores.

Hey Bittersteel, here's a video idea: Try redoing this disaster save or some other of your choosing but try to "win" without changing industry, template, research, doctrines. It would be a good way to show much these things can affect the game or on the other hand it could show that pure micro skill can win the game with bad choices in other areas

this title is the most accurate thing ever said in human history

That’s the biggest encirclement I’ve ever seen

6:44 Bittersteel! With the new DLC, the military police now increase recovery rate so it can be useful in line infantry

Oh, there is one thing that Fleet in Being is great for, so don't knock it! The last doctrine in the tree gives you +20% naval AA effectiveness. It's actually really amazing for me when I play Silver Legion USA because I still have to deal with a bug where the game crashes if I try to access my air force during or after the civil war, but if I completely disband my air force at the start and scuttle my carriers, and if I don't touch the air force interface until after the civil war ends, then I can build a fresh one from scratch. At that point though, I don't want to spend the time and dockyards on new carriers, so between FiB, the high command AA guy (Spruance, I think,) and some dedicated AA cruisers plus copious use of DP secondaries on everything, I can still really shred Japanese or British carrier fleets depending on how RNGeezus blows up my game.

Kaiserreich got an update for Germany recently, and there's some really interesting paths like the secret NatPop one, maybe you should try playing it as Germany is way more complicated now

Bittersteel Although you won’t see this,Ever since I started watching you,you have made me love HOI4 and inspired me to start my own KZread channel,You are very inspiring,thank you my friend.

40 seconds ago. I'm already here. Bittersteel Is addictive 😂

It figures this would be another one of those games with a weird but necessary strategy like doing a Reverse Schlieffen plan, lol.

@vixxsz8238

5 ай бұрын

I was going for the "Nothing Personal, Adolf" achievement😭

@DoctorAllanGrey

5 ай бұрын

@@vixxsz8238 Does that one preclude defeating the allies? Although I imagine you were probably busy stopping Germany coming at you right before you got jumped, Lol

@vixxsz8238

5 ай бұрын

Haha, nope 😂. When I first the game I almost immediately declared war on Austria so I could hold the land for the achievement, and I guess I was under the assumption that I needed to be at war with them or I got greedy so then I declared war, then mid-way through that the Allies declared on me for some reason. I capped Germany and released them a so there would still be a Facist Germany, but they decided to flip, declare war on me, then join the allies 😭@@DoctorAllanGrey

15 width is great, this recent update really favours smaller widths, the bigger width all feel really clunky to use well

Good News! They fixed the Lost Cores modifier bug! like a few weeks ago

Love your content 😊😊😊

Bittersteel you should show how many losses the enemy took in pockets by using booklet you were using to see how much equipment you captured. Would be interesting.

As someone who has seen the game code, Paradox forgot to add a code to remove the final Lost Cores modifier because the effect is different between first core lost and following cores lost.

love you videos keep uploading shortly

hello people am i blind or he missing core territory one top left itally isnt that the 3rd core ?, pls help

@japsu5279

5 ай бұрын

go to 11:15 you can see that piemonte is controlled by italy

@simondesmond3574

5 ай бұрын

@@japsu5279 At the start of the video Piedmont is owned by France

@Bitt3rSteel

5 ай бұрын

No, I control it. I'm just holding on the the VP that gives me 51% control

@raiden5181

5 ай бұрын

@@Bitt3rSteel im pretty sure that sahara counts as a core for all nations including italy which is the third core that italy lost im guessing

@Gustav_Kuriga

5 ай бұрын

@@raiden5181 Sahara is Colony state. No garrison, but otherwise similar to other non-cores.

Idk i like using MP support on assault divisions for the recovery rate boost

27:00 sound of happiness

that professor farnsworth meme was the worst thing ever lol, horrible quality and low volume. it was perfectly cursed, thank you

"This Belgium is already dead, it just doesn't know it yet. 🎅🎅🥕"

Hat looks awfully much Like a Situation I was in not so Long ago

"Mussolini is an idiot" How is that an suprise. Every hoi4 player knows he is.

"The game says we lost 3 cores, we only lost 2 : Sardinia and Istria !" Meanwhile the French holding Piedmont : Am i a joke to you ?

@Bitt3rSteel

5 ай бұрын

Fun fact, I still control Piedmont, because the VP is in Genoa, not Turin

@lucavonhabsburg270

5 ай бұрын

​@@Bitt3rSteelIt's probably because of Zadar?

@Bitt3rSteel

5 ай бұрын

Nah, I checked. Zadar is colonial, not a core

@ClemDiamond

5 ай бұрын

@@Bitt3rSteel Could it be spaghetti code about losing Torino then ? In the video we don't see if you ever lost the negative modifier after reconquering everything or if it stayed and was truly the bug you explained. I suppose that was cut ? Didn't say it in my comment but great video as always. I'm in awe at your patience to save such disasters each time. Loved the TW video too !

@Bitt3rSteel

5 ай бұрын

@@ClemDiamond the debuffs never went away. As long as it's just one debuff, you can offset it with the 25pp decisions you get to boos Mussolini

I always like to make a port on rome so I can auto port-garrison it instead of manually defending it. Works 9/10. Wish the ai could build ports or at least rome starting with a port.

Military police do have a use, they are in of the few things that increases recovery rate for infantry divisions

Speaking of building: for air superiority or at least try to contest down enemy bomber, I never seen you built AA and radar... Are those so uneffective, or you simply don't built then since they aren't in your play style?

@Bitt3rSteel

5 ай бұрын

I'm usually trying to mend bigger issues

0:20 all of them

Mr. Steel i have a question. Every time I play hoi4 my units always have no organization, what could be the problem?

@wersab5960

5 ай бұрын

does your template have atleast 30 org ? If you do have it then you have poor supply,so that could have a lot of reasons (you might not have fuel,trains,truck etc.).

Challenge suggestion: using only general/field marshal orders; fallback lines, frontlines, etc. Moving a unit manually instantly fails the challenge.

143 divisions in the magino encirclement

bittersteel with another banger

Finally, someone points this out! I refuse to play italy until it's fixed, you can form the Roman empire, get everything as cores, and then have a civil war because you forget to garrison some random beach in the middle of nowhere. If it's a bug fix it, if it's a mechanic it's a stupid fucking mechanic.

What about France marching halfway through the north of your country. Just didn't notice?

@Bitt3rSteel

5 ай бұрын

I'm pretty sure they didn't take another tile after I took over the save tbh. And no, they don't control the state. I hold Genoa

@Player1776.

5 ай бұрын

ah@@Bitt3rSteel

Whoa whoa whoa, waitaminute ... Did you just say that a light tank can be designed specifically for garrison brigades? Damn, and here I've just been trying to optimize the best SPAA to augment my infantry brigades. What tank modules help with suppression, or is it that the hardness makes them almost impossible to be destroyed by insurgents?

Yeah I immediately guessed it was b/c the Italian power of balance system is broken

13:33 Is artillery guy finally working? I always thought that this adviser is bugged and didnt do shit for your army

a combination of all three

Did he just reverse the Schlieffenplan? Now i´ve seen it all.

15:02 heavy cruisers

D: you are playing the Soft underbelly of Europe 😂

they also must give a rate because 1 tank division can not hold an entire army of infantry

You claimed additional AA is not worth it. I was pretty sure thats not the case so I quickly tested the effect of AA. No AA = -35% modifier Support AA= -25% modifier Support + 2 Line AA = -10% modifier Conclusion: If anything, even 2 line AA isn't enough to completely get rid of the negativ air superiority modifier. And to claim more AA than 1 support is never worth it is definitely not true.

@Bitt3rSteel

5 ай бұрын

The added cost is not worth the reduced penalty at all

@Gustav_Kuriga

5 ай бұрын

@@Bitt3rSteel AA isn't that expensive.

@Bitt3rSteel

5 ай бұрын

@@Gustav_Kuriga it's not, but a line regiment needs more equipment than a support company. So it costs more, does less (added bonus on top of the support company has diminishing returns). I rather spend the IC on something that had a bigger overall impact

i have a challenge for you i want you to play elite difficultu then choose uk and release egypt as a puppet then gain freedom and declare on both the allies and axis and comintern and chinese and japenese faction and defeat them all if you can do that youy will be officialy crowned the best tryhard hoi4 player but since it will be too long make the video as a 200k subsucriber special were almost there

Hello Bitt3rSteel.Can you tell me how to add divisons to an alredy existing army

@Bitt3rSteel

5 ай бұрын

Select the unit and right click the army you want to add it to

@ilmansmajic7682

5 ай бұрын

@@Bitt3rSteel Thank you so much

I remember my first Game of BBA as Dino Grandi and ending up in Civil war because i lost some random pieces of lands in Russia Yeh Italian Power balance is Broken for any fascist path

i wanna go with the secret third option and say d: all of the above

Don't you have a core in Zara too?

Would you do a Habsburg Poland video?

You need to make more total war videos!

CROSSES GROW ON ANZIO~

25:30 🎅🎅🥕

Italy is always incompetent in my games, I once saw Britain naval invade Italy and they infinitely attacked and they lost every single battle. And they counterattacked and before civil war happened Italy divisions were all overrun and Italy surrendered.

25:30 IdkSterling refrence?

that views are tcking fast.

D) All of the Above.

My guess is A and C

sad, btw all three of them

I’m quite damn sure that you are sometimes incompetent so it must be B. /j, you are great.

Mama mia!

howcome your fighters are only 30 production cost with that engine, normally mine end up at like 45 even with near same template

@Bitt3rSteel

5 ай бұрын

I have no idea

isnt france occupiing the 3. core in the north of italy? (they are standing next to milano)

Probably unfair to call that a game mechanic, looks like a pretty obvious bug. Impressive content, by the way. Learned a lot watching these videos and they're quite entertaining to boot, though that's probably down to charisma and nice editing.

sussolini

When the UK wants a new dominion they made one out of the balkans.

I thought you were talking about the current politician 😂😂😂

All of the above

so i was curious what your national/ethnicity was and googled you, 1st thing that popped up was YOUR face reveal, so i clicked it. 1st three words of the video was " hi, im taureor." found it amusing thought you may as well.

@Bitt3rSteel

5 ай бұрын

Haha, brilliant

When has mussolini not been in trouble?

Hey good morning bitter

was he ever never in trouble?

@ahhno4662

5 ай бұрын

greece: 👁 👄 👁

Is Italian Dodecanese a core?

@Bitt3rSteel

5 ай бұрын

Oddly, no

How much manpower was lost during the 140 division pocket

@vixxsz8238

5 ай бұрын

~200k take it or leave it, I don't remember exactly remember the numbers when I left off.

IIRC one of the north african states counts as a core despite it not being one which has messed me up many times when i ignore Africa and full commit to invading UK and France.

@quaker2636

5 ай бұрын

Any state you own at the start of the war counts as a "core", so even if you form the roman empire and lose a couple states in the middle of nowhere you're getting the civil war because paradox devs don't know how to code

when can I send disasters?

What are our favourite pizza toppings?

@LetMeBe3

5 ай бұрын

Mines ham.

@wiktormroczek9967

5 ай бұрын

Tuna and onion - Tonno e cipolla 🇮🇹

Is Zara a core of Italy ?

@Bitt3rSteel

5 ай бұрын

No, it's not apparently!

i just hate the balance of power shift in italy. Even when you don't play italy and just want to conquere it you get a useless puppet without even any chance to take all the land.

01:28 what about piedmont?

@Bitt3rSteel

5 ай бұрын

Still Italian, Genoa is the major VP

@alexanderkolchak1

5 ай бұрын

oh okay i didnt know@@Bitt3rSteel

@Gustav_Kuriga

5 ай бұрын

@@Bitt3rSteel It's a major VP, but it is not the state VP.

Isn't Turin a core?

@Bitt3rSteel

5 ай бұрын

I control the state still

Considering your YT name you should play Game of thrones themed hoi4 mods more

I’m going to guess all three 😂🎉🎉🎉🎉 0:25

big manki

Actually, you also lostpiedmont, so they're 3 core territories

Apparently because piedmonts victory point is genoa, its not technically occupied as a core by france so guys stop mentioning it