Honestly wish the Unique tab could hold multiple of the same unique like even a limit of three would make it much more useful in my eyes.

@redfish337

11 ай бұрын

This is true. But honestly all I really want is for extra copies to be able to go dump to a quad tab so I could actually use unique affinity on the unique tab without it being a pain in the ass.

@thedarkemissary

11 ай бұрын

Can't you just buy more unique tabs?

@poodlemeister22314

11 ай бұрын

I think with the way the affinity system works, it'll still say "can't place unique, no room" even if you have a quad tab with the unique affinity if you have a unique tab...@@thedarkemissary

@juliencesttous6633

11 ай бұрын

Imagine buying multiple unique stash tab

@Mertin967

11 ай бұрын

you can ctrl shift click to bypass any affinity you set, if that's what you were looking for @@redfish337

GGG should make an additional function for those who bought Unique tab: Mark (while holding Alt) Uniques that u already stashed as "V = Acquired or X = not Acquired" (Same as Map completion)

@erick_ac

11 ай бұрын

actually we need a quick "compare with" or "swap with" to check the one I have in the tab so whenever you get a repeat, you could at least check if it's better or at least has better ilvl

Gem,Currency, Divination and Unique tabs saved a lot of space. I was hoarding the Uniques and they take space FAST. Divination cards also don't go away easy and they fill up a tab quickly aswell, so the tab saves a ton of space while also making it easy for yout o check which decks are complete. Gems because I wanna explore some builds later and I don't know which gems are good or bad yet.

It should be noted that things like Oils, Fossils, Catalysts and even Splinters can go in the bottom section of the currency tab.

Newer player and this seriously was a pog move. Thank you so much lol wasnt even thinking of these being on sale and was literally looking at the tabs

There are too many tabs for old league mechanics that should be merged into a single tab. Would like to see something like the fragment tab with the 4 separations for a merge of blight, delirium, delve, and essence Similarly they could merge flask, gem, div, and unique I already group these tabs into folders so it would make sense for me.

I watched the Exilecon, and heard the devs saying that everything you buy in PoE 1 will also be available to use in PoE 2, I assume these premium stash tabs are also included?

thank u sir . the timing ! been eagerly waiting for sale

I bought so many tabs when I started, before a lot of the new tabs came out and when I still had separate tabs for red, blue and green gems, and tabs for weapon types, etc. etc. that I can't justify buying quad tabs now. I just add several normal tabs to folder.

@Synky

11 ай бұрын

You can buy upgrades for the normal tabs to quads right? Or it might just be normal to premium but not quad tab.

@Chkoupinator

11 ай бұрын

@@Synky normal to premium only you can't upgrade a normal to a quad

I bought all of the special tabs and like 12 premium tabs over the last few years. I think most were on sell. I agree with the priorities in this video.

You can sort the gem and flask tab by quality at the bottom for the vendor recipes

You’re such an amazing content creator Ziz, thanks for all your videos.

came here checking to see what I missed on tabs turns out I've got everything recommended, thanks.

Great video for newer players, you did not mention that "premium" statsh tabs can be rename as you wish, making it easier to know which tabs is what ! :)

Sadly there is not region pricing form stach tabs, a 20 usd of points is like 100$ in my currency and which mean i will have to spend like almot 200$ to buy all the tabs.

when i stash tap for sale? every month?

When you have 145, and you need 150 for a quad tab😵 Thanks for the info! I totally forgot you could upgrade essences in the tab.

@chaosmassive8627

11 ай бұрын

gotta buy that weta pet for free mystery box lmao

When is the sale?!

When PoE 2 is released, will we have to buy all the tabs again?

How did you not mention premium tabs?

when will sale be

how many of the same gem can be put into the gem tab, can i put say 10 of each gem or

@bjt3833

11 ай бұрын

There’s a 500 gem limit, iirc, and what gems you use to hit that limit can be whatever. No individual gem limits.

when is the sale starting? btw incredible timing I was just looking around what to get, I got the currency tab, so maps stash tab it is :)

@c-tothefourth4879

11 ай бұрын

Tomorrow

@Chkoupinator

11 ай бұрын

The sale starts in exactly 24h (minus 5 minutes)

@hmp01

11 ай бұрын

thanks guys

Got mine. Such a huge upgrade

Do I have to buy tabs every new league? Or once I buy one IT stays to all my characters?

@Vanden_Vanden

8 ай бұрын

Stays

Consider where I from, my country dollar is literally x4 of USD, understand which tab is mandatory is very helpful and valuable

@raisschultz420

11 ай бұрын

skill issue. anyways theres a sale tomorrow so gl

@Chkoupinator

11 ай бұрын

I would recommend getting into a guild with map sharing and only having your highest value maps in your stash, with that get the first blood for +1 tab, the currency tab, a premium upgrade or two to have a shop and then either the fragments + essences tab or a quad tab (you can skip on the premium upgrades if you get a quad tab)

@kgldjkgur2046

11 ай бұрын

currency stash and fragment stash must have, essence qol, maps qol not needed in my opinion i play 200-300h per league and i never have full stash of favourited map if u farm them then buy map tab also

I basically tell people that PoE is free to try, but consider that the suite of Currency + Maps + Premium tabs is the price for the full game. Pretty dang fair, IMO, since that's the only thing i've bought with 400 hours played.

So the Quad tab, even though less space is better value than the Premium Stash Tab Bundle?

@redfish337

10 ай бұрын

The premium stash tab bundle is a better value. You get slightly more space for the money. If you're just starting out, I would suggest getting the bundle. The main issue when just starting out is the numbers might not line up properly. eg, 120 for map and 60 for currency... you can get a quad for 120 and that's 300 even whereas the premium bundle would push you over that threshold. Even though the quad tabs are slightly less space per money (it's not a huge different, but it's still true), when you start getting a lot of tabs it's a lot of trouble to move between pages and you wish you just had more quads. Still, when you basically have no tabs available having extra subdivisions to work with can be nice. But once you stop wanting to subdivide you just want more on screen at once. If you keep dumping money in, I'd personally suggest: bundle ---> quad ---> bundle ---> only quads after that.

For me it'd be like: S tier: Currency, Map, Fragment A tier: Essence, Divination B tier: Blight, Metamorph, Delve C tier: any other tab except... F tier: Delirium. Complete joke of a tab, stuff from this league mechanic is extremely space efficient.

@Chkoupinator

11 ай бұрын

I'd say quad or premium tab bundle is A tier as well (at least first one)

@alewis514

11 ай бұрын

@@Chkoupinator oh yeah i forgot those. And upgrade your basic tabs to premium too.

For 240coins I’ve got 6 premium tabs and 1 gem tab on sale, very good deal. Better than spending 140 for only currency and map tabs.

Great video Ziz! I know that some people consider stash tabs to be pay to win but I feel like this is such an equitable way to support a developer that creates so much free content.

@Chkoupinator

11 ай бұрын

I don't think it's equitable in a game with trading to have people able to store infinitely more items to sell as long as they keep paying, and purposefully making currency stack like shit in the base tabs is a shit move imo (they are getting less crazy though, now that sacrifice fragments stack at least). Honestly imo they should either make one single stash tab upgrade for 60$ and consider it the base game with f2p being more like a trial (kinda like gw2 and such) and then make it possible to grind for extra stash tabs Or they could actually be a truly non p2w game and make stash tabs included with the game, I just bought a single premium tab upgrade while waiting for the sale and I made easily 40% of my money from selling stuff in it. I have been unable to sell literally anything in chat before anyone comes to mention that

@Chkoupinator

11 ай бұрын

A ton of f2p games make enough money from skins alone without having any p2w mechanic like this

@UzinPOE

11 ай бұрын

U can post on forums you know too :D you dont NEED premium stash tabs to trade HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH why are u in every reply on this youtube video giving ur two-cents, seems like your salty you cant afford the tabs u want :PPPPPPPPPPPPPP @@Chkoupinator

@kingderpington6082

11 ай бұрын

@@Chkoupinator I would just view the tabs as the upgrade from a trial to a standard edition tbh.

@thedarkemissary

11 ай бұрын

I wouldn't call the stash tabs pay to win. They're more pay to play. The game is practically unplayable without tabs. I just got done with my first playthrough and of the 4 pages they give you, one is entirely full of currency and the other, full of essences, gems, maps and div cards. I'm left with enough space to store maybe 20 pieces of gear and uniques.

I find it so annoying that the gems tab can't sort alphabetically. How is this not an option?

Currency>Map>1Premium(trade) or Unique(SSF)>Fragment>Quad>Everything else(You can use normal tabs affinities for multiple leagues)

I wish I could change my 20+ premium tabs to 5+ quad tabs, please GGG...

@procrastinathor4594

11 ай бұрын

I wish I could split my quad tab into 4 small ones :D lol

@diegonewplanet

11 ай бұрын

Just buy more 😂

For me most important was Curency, map, div card, Fragment and atleast 1 primium tab thats it. Once you get these u dont need to spend a single penny in poe fr rest of your life unless u want it for more convince.

@Chkoupinator

11 ай бұрын

1 premium tab is not enough for trading unless you only sell very high velocity items (or underprice a lot)

How much is all that? I was thinking about picking up the Game. I just would like to know how much of an investment it would be.

I wish Awakened POE trade would work on div cards while they're in the tab.

WAIT A MINUTE ... in POE I can have more than 5 stash tabs? What futuristic technology is this?

@Chkoupinator

11 ай бұрын

money (not p2w game btw :copium:)

fuck yes sale time: almost bought mine before the sale phew

really liked the video, but i have to say it, why ggg why the incubators can't go in the fragment stash whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

thanks a lot ziz

Why do you have a 6 socketed bow in the big slot of your currency stash tab? Genuinely curious. I'm a new-ish player, and don't know what you do with that. lol

@lrayzor

11 ай бұрын

He's probably working on crafting it. By having it there you can easily apply the currrencies around it to hopefully improve the bow.

Are purchase for the current league or forever?

@kgldjkgur2046

11 ай бұрын

Ure from diablo? Its one time purchase for entire life

@soso7o7

11 ай бұрын

@@kgldjkgur2046 this is a lie they only last one week when you buy then you can pay for premium membership and that lasts 2 weeks rinse repeat yw :D

@Ephias

11 ай бұрын

@@kgldjkgur2046 No, just askin?

never knew you could bypass affinity with ctrl + shift.

@Plusimurfriend

11 ай бұрын

You can bypass the whole spending money affinity with alt + F4

You just wanted to show off that Balenciaga Ventors

why buy the quad premium tab for 120 if you can buy 6x premium tabs for 165? each goes for cheaper that way. i dont understand..

People here be whining about the tabs being 'pay to win' don't seem to realize that there are a lot of people like me that don't give the slightest #%@! about cosmetics, are massive tightwads and would otherwise like to support the game. Selling tabs fill that monetization role perfectly, for me.

@Chkoupinator

11 ай бұрын

They could improve the free ones so that it's really about convenience and not necessity, or they could give people the same abilities in normal tabs but make them inconvenient (like no sorting, no div card auto redeem, anoint, no crafting space or nice layout like the currency tab etc). Would you mind giving more details on how much you spent and on what exactly?

Getting the First Blood pack + 50 point pack gets you most of the major tabs and leaves you with some extra points.

@Chkoupinator

11 ай бұрын

Huh? The first blood pack is 20$, 250mtx isn't enough for the major ones unless you don't get the map tab

@BlueberryJamPie

11 ай бұрын

@@Chkoupinator First Blood you can get currency, map, premium with the coins and you'll be left with 10 (you should only buy tabs during a sale) With the 50 point you can get a tab or two depending on which you choose, and that helps heaps already.

@Chkoupinator

11 ай бұрын

​@@BlueberryJamPiethe major ones according to ziz are 340 points and I agree that you can't play the game without a map tab especially if you wanna do 3 to 1 receipes and such

@BlueberryJamPie

11 ай бұрын

​@@Chkoupinator That's according to him, but the real major ones are just currency, map and premium. The rest are mostly just QoL for not needing to organize as much or have extra space. They're good, but not needed and mechanic focused. Done many leagues with just the 3. I gotta organize a bit more yes, but they're more than enough. Like he said, get the ones for mechanics that you will use/like. Though the quad stash is technically the "best" 4th since you can put anything in it if you wanna change what mechanic you focus on each league. The unique one is really good if you do SSF only though.

FUCK. Just broke down and bought a map tab

Essential Tabs: 6:06 Currency (60pt) Map (120pt) Divcard (40pt) Quad (120pt) 34$ (340 Pt) Total (on sale)

@darkkenzi

11 ай бұрын

gonna do this when I start playing worthy devs to support thx for breaking it down waiting for sale.

@Chkoupinator

11 ай бұрын

@@darkkenzi the sale is already up and will end soon fyi

how much for fragment tab?

@jonawa1573

11 ай бұрын

Bro this no bazzar 💀 Look in Store

@c-tothefourth4879

11 ай бұрын

55

Why are you now explaining how you got tabs on the side….

Instructions unclear, Bought 4 div card tabs.

ice cream so good yes yes yes

@Chkoupinator

11 ай бұрын

bigger weapons I need more bullets

This is pay for power.

Where were you 3 years ago? I had to actually use my own brain to think about what to buy goddammit!

Currency, maps, uniques in that order. Trust me I'm a PoE noob and it was life changing when I finally gave in and bought those 3. Others you can just set affinities on blank tabs and it's not a huge problem (essences, fragments, div cards)

I've gotten all my voidstones and beaten ubers in SSF with the default 4 stash tabs multiple times. With the right build and game knowledge you can be efficient enough to do all content without spending a single dime. Even now I only got a 5th stash tab and the currency tab (first blood purchase) and it's more than enough. Get better at the game or drop some money on stash tabs if you want to pick up every pos rare/unique to sell them for 2c.

@Hypermill024

11 ай бұрын

I hope you found a different way to support this "free to play game", thanks.

@psygnosis7218

11 ай бұрын

No idea what you're getting at. People can't even be bothered drop a measly 17 bucks on stash tabs via first blood pack. Do you think they will go big on cosmetics to support the game?

You didn't cover the premium and quad tabs. If you want to sell items it is near mandatory to upgrade your normal tabs to premium at least. And to go further get more premiums or even better get Quad tabs. These tabs allow you to make them public and list items for sale directly from in game, which you cant do with the basic 4 starter tabs.

@lLethalGamesl

11 ай бұрын

Also first blood pack like someone mentioned, good value. And never buy the in game currency directly, rather get supporter packs which come with additional goodies alongside the currency.

@TheAluvisify

11 ай бұрын

Pretty sure that he did cover quad tabs? 2:47

@lLethalGamesl

11 ай бұрын

​@@TheAluvisify He did but only the storage aspect of them, not the premium feature they have where you can list things for trade. Unless they added that as a base feature with all tabs now but im pretty sure the starter 4 a new player gets can't do that.

@Chkoupinator

11 ай бұрын

@@lLethalGamesl yup non premium tabs still exist and that's what new players get

Rather than pay for tabs, can't you just create mules?

@redfish337

10 ай бұрын

To an extent. If you think your time is worth so little you rather make things a total pain in the ass for yourself instead of just pay $10-30.

Honestly, this game is a chore with out currency map and quad tabs. You'll spend way more time in you tabs than you will playing the game with out them.

I dont think divination tab is useful at all. Maybe if you are playing ssf. But in softcore if its not more than 10c you shouldnt be picking it up anyways. And they sell fast. Fragment tab is way more useful imo

300 points --> Currency (60) + Map (120) + Fragment (55) + 4x tab ----> premium (40) 275 total (alternatively, you can get divination and only make two tabs premium) 300 more points ---> Divination (40) + Essence (30) + 2 quads (240) If you're SSF, get a unique tab instead of one of the quads.

What I'd like is a 'recommended' price on items just to learn what is worth and what is garbage.

@commentsection8118

10 ай бұрын

Up for this! I'm new so I want some idea.

I love how free to play games end up being more expensive than a full game..... I'd rather buy poe for 50 pound and have them put all these stash tabs in than spending hundreds on them before you even think if skins etc. 😂

Why he dont mention Premium Stash Tab, i think it is more superior than before quad. :/

letsgo

Fragment tab is way more useful than divination

Still feels like a scam that chris said there will only be one currency tab and soon after we got the useless league tabs. Could easily have been part of the currency tab. Ugh. oh well

@Chkoupinator

11 ай бұрын

The stash tabs system itself is a scam and I really feel like GGG deserve more shit for it. I almost quit multiple times because of it when I was broke they are extremely lucky I managed to get hooked back and buy stash tabs now, if I didn't get back into the game I would have been a net negative to their income only because of how frustrating they make the game without tabs

@Chkoupinator

11 ай бұрын

And not only that but they're not honest about it, imo they should clearly have a f2p and a b2p version with the necessary tabs, people look at PoE and think it's a completely F2P game (like there are hundreds of) you can play as much as you want and buy cosmetic things whenever you want/can but it's not

@Chkoupinator

11 ай бұрын

And it's not like GGG don't have the funds to invest in their community nor is it like they don't have the good faith necessary to survive strictly off supporter packs and skins. I don't think the people with enough supporter pack badges in the forum to make a Christmas tree jealous buy those packs just for tabs

@Synky

11 ай бұрын

​@@Chkoupinatorstash tabs and mtx are their ONLY form of income. It's literally insane to me you're able to complain with their method of monetization. It IS free to play in ever sense of the word, and the fact that the purchases carry over every league and allow you to still keep your items in standard is amazing. Yes, it's pay for convenience, but the alternatives for monetization such as paying for skills/levels would be game ruining. It's rare you find someone with your opinion that the stash tabs are a "scam". You don't NEED them, but if you want to grind the game, they are an insane QOL upgrade that carry over every league, and even into po2. I give GGG mad props for how they did this. Trust me, it could be far worse

@popeye6459

10 ай бұрын

​@@Chkoupinator They weren't "lucky" to hook you back, that's literally the design/marketing tactic working. You're the type of player they fish for with the system.

6527th

If u play softocre u literally dont need map stash tab in late game u run one map anyway and no one will buy random lava lake drop so its pointless to even pick them up personally u can juat buy stash tab for 30/40points i dont remember and thats it lol i play a lot and its very rare that i have full stash of my favourited map IMO waste of $$ unless u want to farm maps and sell them

Because there's some ppl pointing out that PoE is P2W game (cuz of stash tabs). Let me remind you that this a FREE to play game, and the only income that the company can make is through those sales for stash tabs and cosmetics, which btw, doesn't makes you stronger. There's no question about it that PoE is the best RPG currently on the game market, and if you like the game, if you plan to stay for longer, then definitely buy those stash tabs. They will help you by miles and possibly the best investment for the whole game. PoE is one of the few games that are free to play and worth support it. And to those that complain about not paying for anything in a free game; man up, and support the game. I would love to go the my supermarket and demand everything to be free, but those ppl also have employees and paying with buckets of rice won't help either.

@Oktupus1

11 ай бұрын

You're missing the point. To play the game efficiently, stash tabs are mandatory. To use trade, stash tabs are mandatory. The game is de facto p2w and to properly enjoy it, you gotta spend some money. Acting as if it was entirely free is simply dishonest.

@DthklOwns

11 ай бұрын

​@@Oktupus1stash tabs are not mandatory for trade

@Gloriankithsanus

11 ай бұрын

@@DthklOwns wtf they literally are mandatory to sell items, what are you talking about

@irltgarden

11 ай бұрын

​@@Gloriankithsanus no you can post on the forums and it will show up on trade site

@DthklOwns

11 ай бұрын

@@Gloriankithsanus They literally aren't, just because you're ignorant to how it used to work doesn't mean it's impossible

1st

3rd

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Jesus, even the stash tabs are complicated in this game.

just buy trade tab and currency you are good lol who uses that much tabs

Wish I had seen a video like this before I opened my wallet. Been hearing people talk about POE for years. Noone. NOONE ever mentioned that stash tabs go on sale routinely. Even in the face of "it's not really free-to-play cause you need stash tabs," criticisms. NOONE. Wasted my money.

@Chkoupinator

11 ай бұрын

Best part is that it's usually always 1 week after league start to make sure they milk everyone they manage to frustrate on the league start. I have studied game economics design as part of my master's degree and this is a blatant frustration monetisation tactic that you would usually see only in mobile games...

@steve833333

11 ай бұрын

you save like a 1 or 2 dollars with the sale don't worry if you didn't buy them on sale

when is this sale? Fake news? 😂

@redfish337

11 ай бұрын

Sale is tomorrow (25th) depending somewhat on your time zone, through the weekend. And more or less every 3 weeks.

this game basically costs over 40$. imo people need to stop hyping this game as "the most f2p game ever" (that's what i heard dozen of times) because there's no way you can have fun when you have to trash all the items you've been collecting for so long to have space for currency, which is essential (as far as i know). i'm losing my interest in this game ONLY because of that. i feel like the best option for f2p is to just not collect items, you'll save yourself a big headache when you approach the point where you have to throw it all out 🤷‍♀ in some countries, like Poland (where i live) 40$ is a big deal for an in-game purchase.

@redfish337

11 ай бұрын

Who said "the most f2p game ever"? Dozens of times? Ehh.. Really? Campaign is free. If you want to do endgame it's probably $30-60. Basically everyone outside GGG describes it that way. So you're not really doing an "in-game" purchase, it's buying the game. If you want to get by with $10 or $20, you can. Currency tab and a premium tab is sufficient. But you get bonuses at either $20 (first time) or $30 so most people give budget recommendations around those rather than $10. $10 = currency + premium $20 = currency + map + premium $30 = currency + map + fragment + premium

@thatguy5233

11 ай бұрын

@@redfish337 in Poland it's definitely >all i agree, it's a 1-time purchase which makes it a lot less bad, but what annoys me the most is how obvious it is - you can't stack currency unless you buy a special stash. they WANT you to run out of storage eventually, it's their goal. it's so intrusive and feels so bad.

@thatguy5233

11 ай бұрын

the reason i started playing this game is because i currently have no money and i heard dozens times "just play poe. there are ONLY skins in the store. it's completely free". now that i write them (and show screens coz they don't believe) they're shocked that stash isn't free in this game.

If you are thinking about buying multiple small tabs, buy quad tab instead its SO much better

the amount of microtransactions is crazy