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@mynameisgladiator1933

2 ай бұрын

I got the impression that you were rather disapproving of people mowing the lawn when it is wet. I live in North Carolina. It rains here a lot. Sometimes every day for weeks. We don't really have a choice.

Never be embarrassed about warning consumers regarding reoccurring problems. You’re a reputable shop and I believe that it’s part of your job. If Honda doesn’t agree then maybe they should remedy the issue. You are in the perfect position to make these assessments just because of the shear volume you deal with……good job young lady

@matthewronson5218

2 ай бұрын

Also because of the sheer volume she deals with...

This is the kind of information that we as the consumer need to hear. Thank you for doing this and having the fortitude to do so.

@randygreen007

2 жыл бұрын

Truth! It’s better than Consumer Reports.

@MrReddevil420

2 жыл бұрын

While I agree, learning how to actually clean your equipment or preventative maintenance will also go a long way.

@foreverandaday8185

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrReddevil420 Right!? Some people just don't have common sense, or are just LAZY. 🤦

@philipbreau1246

Жыл бұрын

Honda needs to smarten up. It looks like a shroud may be able to fit around the belt. There appears to be mounting holes under the mower. Maybe someone forgot to install one.

@williamjackson5942

Жыл бұрын

@@philipbreau1246 Thet are not going to, as of September they will stop making mowers!

You may hate telling people to stay away from something but you’re very honest about it.

When i watched this video i was astounded. I had just 12 hours before purchased the exact Hònda mower featured. It was in my garage still in the box. Based on your report i returned the honda and purchased a Craftsman. Thank you! You savedme alot of time and $$$$🙂

@bmorestance

7 күн бұрын

Hey man how is the Craftsman for you? What model did u get? I am in search for new mower and I keep hearing Honda Honda Honda. However, this is the only model available in my area. 1 left on shelf... I'm debating but I didnt want to spend 550 on a mower....

Those Honda’s are only like that on the American market, the Australian models all have a huge round blade disc that covers all that up.. an easy fix would be to order the blade disc plate and the four high lift blades and put them on the American models

I was seriously going to buy one this week. Not for me. So glad I saw this video. Life saver.

@ericwiltse8054

Ай бұрын

Just looked at one an hour ago. Thank you !

I have my Lawnboy Silver series walk behind self propelled for 20 years. Bought it in 2003. The best I ever had. I clean the bottom every time I mow. I change oil at beginning of season and half way thru again. I use fuel stabilizer and it takes me a hour to mow. I'll be 70 this October and a young neighbor asked me when I'm getting a rider, I said when I get old. He asked me 2 years ago.

My dad bought a Troy Bilt lawn mower. He passed away and it was virtually new. I could not start it. I took it to a shop, they got it to start. I used it once, after that i couldn't get it to start. It's still in the garage hasn't been used since. My wife found a used Husqvarna mower and it's been working like a champ.

I bought a Murry walk behind lawnmower from Walmart 15 years ago for 120$ My friends told me I’d be lucky if it lasted a summer. 15 years later after heavy use and never having an issue with it I gave it to a friend to use on his lawn. Always started on the 1st or second pull.

@mrcryptozoic817

Жыл бұрын

I'm with you on Murray. I've got one which I bought in '93 that wasn't self-propelled. In about 2005 I retired it to my off-the-grid place at 8000 ft were I mow my driveway and rough yard (in the mountains). The only thing wrong is the pull rope retracter quit retracting so I drilled a hole in the top and start it with a drill, home made adapter and an 11/16 socket. It still starts every spring. I replaced it with a self-propelled Toro (2005)at home and that one too still runs and self propels itself perfectly. And both have the original spark plug! If it ever quits snowing, I'm going to take the Toro in to have it adjusted.

I used to take customers out to see my line up of repair mowers (incoming and outgoing) and look at the age of the mowers being repaired. I also put replaced parts in a bag/box so customers knew what was replaced. It made it easier to steer them away from problems. Great videos.

@armchairtin-kicker503

2 жыл бұрын

A hard lesson I learnt in my youth. If one is considering the purchase of a durable good, skip the salesman and talk to the repairwoman directly.

@kevinbolin7665

2 жыл бұрын

Very wise man .....i recommend every shop take this advice .....it helps build honesty between the owner and customer leaving no question upon the need of the parts replaced .

@ColonelSandersLite

Жыл бұрын

@@armchairtin-kicker503 A related generally useful piece of advice I picked up somewhere - Suppose you're needing to buy a tool to do some things and you want a good one that will last. Take a look at what brands the guys that use them for a living are using. They need their gear to be as reliable and repairable as possible or downtime eats into their profits. It's also a good idea to look at what the rental guys are renting out. Same thing but possibly more so. They know they're going to have to rent their tools out to morons that don't know what they're doing. They also know they're going to rent their tools out to people that *do* know what they're doing but just don't care because it's a rental. So, as much as possible, their tools have to be able to take a beating and keep on ticking. Of course, this isn't 100%. Just a good starting place, IMHO.

I use the non self propelled version of this mower for my lawn business and it's never let me down! Going into my 4th year and it still runs like new.

@polarlab113

Жыл бұрын

Same here.I buy the Honda 216 self propelled residential models and they are half the price of commercial models.I have a couple that are 10 years old.keeping them clean is job one

@BillyBobDingledorf

3 ай бұрын

And my 30 year old Yard Machines still runs like new. Other than maintenance, I've never had a single repair.

@Bingbing611

2 ай бұрын

I ran my lawn business for 25 years! Organic Lawn Care of Arlington Virginia I only bought Hondas and Snappers with Kawasaki engines for my push mowers Hardly any issues and tens of thousands of lawns cut I wish you well in your endeavors It’s a great way to earn a living

@D13fs

Ай бұрын

@@polarlab113 "Same here."??? His is not self propelled and yours is. What is the same about that?

I have this exact mower and have never had any of these issues or any issue with it. I’ve had it for over 5 years.

I have watched your channel grow...I found your channel by accident when researching an issue that I had. Long story short - you are very good at what you do, BUT, the best part is how you share the information. Thank you, and I wish you both well.

@gwnikmarvin2315

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, you bring a brite lite to what once looked difficult.

@michaelmactavish4445

2 жыл бұрын

@@gwnikmarvin2315 i paid $1,067.00 for my 12.3hp and spent $657.57 on parts and repairs wich why kubotas are best build

I'm 70 yrs old,and I 've worked on small engines for over 48 yrs. I've seen good,and I've seen terrible!LOL! Refreshing,to see someone with the same values,..i.e., looking out for the customer,and doing things right. I lived in Michigan,all my life,until moving to the Lonoke/Cabot area,9 yrs ago. I still do a few units,just to keep busy. God Bless,and good wishes,for you,and your husband !

@raymondmejias7839

2 жыл бұрын

I've had a brand new Husqvarna could never get it to start from day one. started using ether to start it. Once running it cut great was 4wd

@cherylmoshiri3311

2 жыл бұрын

I so appreciate your honesty. Thanks!

@AutismusPrime69

Жыл бұрын

No one cares how old you are. You post this same comment on everyone's videos.

@darkstar_destroyer377

Жыл бұрын

Lonoke / Cabot? Arkansas? Nice area if so!

@rmcguire-pg6io

Жыл бұрын

John 👍 I am a couple years ahead of you and have worked 12 years in small engine rental and repair. I love Chickanic because she is honest about helping the customer, which seems to be a lost value. Now it is ‘Use until it breaks and the go buy a new one.’

I appreciate your honesty. People work hard for they have.

Tell it like it is, no matter the manufacturer. Advice like this is gold to gear heads of all types. Nice work !

It's heart warming to see a lady that's interested in mechanical things. I'm a retired engineer/ mechanic and if start talking about my work she tells me it's boring. I think your channel on garden machinery is very interesting .

I've been using Honda mowers for years now. The early HRU215 mowers with the GXV140 motor are very durable, as is the drive shaft / gearbox system they run. These OHV push rod motors also feature cast iron sleeve & are the reason for Honda having such a good reputation for long life. That said they make these consumer grade machines that are build to a price because people purchase them. Unfortunately for a business to remain profitable they sacrifice the brand & thus not all Honda's are created equal.

I 'm a guy and I'm thouroughly impressed with your knowledge, skills, and contageous work ethic! I wish there were more like you! I'm now a subscriber to your channel! We need more honesty in this business. And, Honda, making poorly engineered machines! That's so unlike them! Profit over ethics I guess!

@mrjim1973

2 ай бұрын

Honda automobile motors are also having major quality issues! According to a recent class action lawsuit, drivers of certain 2018-2023 Honda vehicles may experience stalling and oil dilution. Manufacturing defects in the engines of affected vehicles can cause the car’s oil to be diluted with fuel, causing significant wear and damage to the engine.

Lightweight is good and what did I use it for it’s a lawnmower kzread.infoUgkxTPN04aT-Qdjr_KS3ql7ng8wnU3wwsCqk also recommend Yes it is lightweight so hence not as robust as our old one. But if you take care it does the job really well.

My jaw dropped when I saw this model you were speaking of. I purchased it last year, so far no problems. I keep the underside clean so I hope I can avoid these issues you speak of.

@MrNorthstar50

2 жыл бұрын

@john smith I have that same mower and it does have a belt slipping problem and its only 4 months old and I have had Honda mowers for over 20 years. Your wrong John!

@MrNorthstar50

2 жыл бұрын

@john smith thanks for the reply John no I haven't tried that I have a yard full of trees and there's lots of little sticks in the yard

@michaeldavid6284

2 жыл бұрын

@john smith She didn't say anything about Honda mowers from years past. She specifically said the NEWEST MODEL, and showed a new one, purchased 3 months earlier that already needed repair. She then backed up her opinion by stating she had performed the exact same repair on TEN of the exact same model of Honda mower. Still say she's lying? You either need to thoroughly clean out your ears or permanently retire your pipe.

@michaelsilva8854

2 жыл бұрын

I too have the same mower been running it for my Landscaping company it’s light strong and cuts well I cut Bermuda Augustine and fescue grass haven’t had to replace the belt yet working on the second set of tires and yes I had I stick get stuck in it ! Popped it out and off I went !

Wow I would have never guessed a Honda would be on the trouble list. I have a self propelled from the early 90’s that I still use today.

@bryanbennett972

Жыл бұрын

Honda is done with Mowers. They will also stop building their mower engines as well. They are basically DONE!!!

WOW thanks so very much for people like you that educate us on things like this more now than ever the way money is now. My landlord mowes our lawn but I still like to learn so I can let my friends know. God bless you and all who teaches us less fortunate people!!!

Thank you! I love my old Honda walk behind. Bought it on Fathers Day in 1996. Still going strong. We retired to a more rural area now I have a zero turn mower. Love it! The Honda is doing trim work. Love your videos.

As a landscaper, who uses multiple walk behind mowers, from many different manufacturers, the declining quality and declining dependability of mowers is obvious. The problem certainly is not exclusive to Honda products. Your correct that certain manufacturer's products have inherent parts quality and design flaws that appear over and over to cause failures. Notifying the manufacturers in writing of the problems and my experience, never seems to result in the manufacturer taking responsibility or correcting the part or design flaw, even in their next generation of the same product. Many years ago, Toro changed a once dependable part, used in the deck height adjustment mechanism, from aluminum to a plastic material. The part continuously fails and I now buy them by the dozen to have stand-bys. The dealer has told me that they sell thousands of that replacement part each years to repair multiple generations of that mower. The manufacturer is obviously aware of the issues, as they are notified often by customers directly. I would assume they maintain communications with their dealers and service centers, who also identify the issues. The manufacturer is also aware that they are supplying an inordinate volume of specific parts to their dealers and repair centers on a continuous basis. The customer can only assume that the manufacturers are designing obsolescence into their machines for the purpose of selling parts and service, rather than improving design and selling a better product.

@Richard-zc1cj

2 жыл бұрын

You're right planned obsolescence makes a lot of money. It seems once someone has a good reputation of putting out good products then, they start the planned obsolescence, time to make lots of money selling parts. Many of these manufacturers have sold their ethics out to making more money.

@thyslop1737

2 жыл бұрын

Same with washer and dryers the declining quality. I buy a fair amount of washers and dryers every year for commercial use. I have noticed a marked decline in quality and quality control in coatings, in wirings and quality of workmanship, particularly these last 10 years.

@michaelskinner896

2 жыл бұрын

It's really unfortunate that so many different products in our society are falling under this same fate, and there's only one reason: money. In your case, imagine all of the extra money they're making selling those replacement plastic parts. Caring about and being proud of what you make and sell has almost become a lost art.

@hunkydorian

2 жыл бұрын

If I ran a manufacturing company I would closely watch repair part sales. And if I'm selling a lot of one or another part, that part is bad and has to be redesigned to fix whatever is wrong with it.

@chrisgraham2904

2 жыл бұрын

@@hunkydorian That seems completely logical, but when a manufacturer realizes that the defective part has added $650,000 dollars to their profits, they take a different road.

Glad to see you passing on this valuable information with you working on all these different brands you see firsthand the flaws; it's sickening how quantity over quality has been the new norm and mowers and other yard equipment have become a big investment. Keep up the great work and sure appreciate the honesty and workmanship you put into it the repairs.

You're sooooo right. I had one in the shop last month with the same issue. When I looked at the new configuration, I thought no way I'm taking all of this apart. Yes, you have to take it all apart and it was a real bear. The traditional Honda self-propelled set up is easily serviceable.

Great info love that you put it out to the consumer. We need more honest shop owners like you! Thanks CHICKANIC

My Dad and I Owned countless numbers of Snapper Mowers over the years until they “Cheapened” the Quality and started selling them at Walmart. I went to a Toro several years ago with a Honda Engine and it was a Great Choice. 👍

@joe6096

Жыл бұрын

Just so you understand, Snapper never cheapened out on their authentic Snapper models - which have NEVER been available at Walmart or any other big box store. What did happen was that Simplicity bought Snapper in 2002 and put the Snapper name on cheap Simplicity mowers to sell at Walmart. Thankfully Simplicity kept the REAL Snappers - with patented rear disc drive self propelled system- that enthusiasts know and love, in production and for sale only at power yard equipment dealers. As soon as Briggs and Stratton bought Snapper back from Simplicity they killed that Walmart deal, and ever since you can only buy the real Snappers, and only at power yard equipment dealers.

@joetroutt7425

Жыл бұрын

​@@joe6096 do or did the original Snapper mowers come with Briggs and Stratton engines?

Wow, great timing for this video! I recently spent over an hour disassembling the underside shroud in order to remove a jammed stick. And about 20 minutes of that repair was spent trying to get one bolt to line up with a T-nut that could not be held in place. Talk about frustrating!! A few days later, I decided to disassemble everything again in order to Loctite all of the nuts and bolts to keep them from vibrating loose. And that ridiculously inaccessible T-nut? I epoxied that sucker back in place! LOL!

Great video thank you very much. I don’t know what Honda was thinking when they designed that one. You are doing a great service to the community pointing these things out to the people.

Some people just don't have the time to mow lawn at the right time and are forced to mow when it's damp out. Here in Washington state in the spring, it can be tough to find a dry window. Always buy a mower from a reputal dealer and not from a box store. A good dealer wants happy satisfied customers. Good video.

I currently have three older Honda self propelled mowers which are still performing great.

I was shocked when you reviled the problem mower was a Honda. I’ve owned lots of Honda outdoor equipment over the years for my business and for my home use from generators, lawn mowers, snowblowers, water pumps, outboard engines, pressure washers. I always kept up on the scheduled maintenance on them and replaced worn parts when needed and they all have worked great with very few problems. That’s why I paid the extra money on Honda equipment over other brands because the Hondas worked and they worked when I really needed them to in some bad situations. I sure hope that Honda is not heading in the direction of making expensive junk like some other companies have. Thanks for making this video, it sure was an eye opener.

@michaelmactavish4445

2 жыл бұрын

thats why im kinda waiting for kubotas to bring there good solid kubota walk behind mowers here to canada

@GiantMeteor2024

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelmactavish4445 Kubota! I miss the old days at a friends place in Ontario mowing the 3 acres there on a Kubota tractor. Its fun!

@Seldomheardabout

2 жыл бұрын

They aren't heading that direction. Briggs paid her to shit on Honda lol. Find my comment explaining how I am a commercial landscaper and I keep this guy around. I beat it to hell for 3 years and a piece of plastic fell off. Still sounds brand new, sucks no air, and works exactly like it should. Don't trust women claiming they are mechanics lol. You have been fleeced.

@frankm2588

2 жыл бұрын

I've had Toro, Craftsman and Honda mowers. Honda is by far the best. Anyone who says otherwise is crazy. There must be an ulterior motive here.

@worldhello1234

2 жыл бұрын

@@Seldomheardabout "Briggs paid her to shit on Honda lol." I could claim the same thing about, except calling you a Honda shill. 😂 "Don't trust women claiming they are mechanics lol." Nah, I don't trust random trolls and their army of strawmen. 😂 Simple, either it is a problem or it isn't. 😊

Love your honesty. My son worked as a small engine mechanic for years. I must say that while this mower has issues, it is amazing how people mow wet grass and let it get caked up like this for any mower. You must roll your eyes at how people abuse their equipment.

@D13fs

Ай бұрын

I worked at a golf course. Grass cut every day in the early morning. The sprinkler system ran every night even when raining. Many different types of mowers. We just loved cleaning equipment. We would get into the rough areas with push mowers similar to the types homeowners use. We set the front wheels higher than the back - made mowing thicker long grass much easier.

I have had my Honda mower for a few years now, no problems. I clean after every mowing, spray the bottom with silicone, and properly store it for the winter. And you are correct, only mow when it is dry.

@jontrevino2135

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't buy anything else but honda mowers. I have my own lawn care business and I use those exact models bought 2 for myself for father's day 2 years ago and I put them through hell sometimes and they just won't quit lol

@ColonelSandersLite

Жыл бұрын

"only mow when it is dry" That's just not practical reality where I live and definitely isn't reality in a lot of the wetter parts of the country. I guess most people can only really get the mowing done on a couple of days of the week. It rains between 1 and 3 times a week here, depending on specific time of year. What are the odds that the days your schedule allow you to do it line up with good dry grass? Not too good in my experience. In short, if I followed that advice, my yard would just be an overgrown jungle a lot of the time.

@joetroutt7425

Жыл бұрын

​​@@jontrevino2135 I just bought the same mower and it seems to be a good running mower. I was using a snapper self propelled mower from who knows how long. It's as heavy as a tank and has 6 speeds. The only reason I put it to pasture is bc it's been popping under heavy load and finally died on me the other day. I'm sure I could fix it but I figured it was just time to upgrade. I'm not sure if this is the original motor for snapper but it has a Briggs and Stratton engine. I've had the mower for over 10 years and I bought it used so I'm not sure how old it is. Hope the Honda gives me years of trouble free lawn care. I always mow dry grass. Mostly in the evening when all the dew and moisture has evaporated.

@RR98guy

10 ай бұрын

I totally agree where I live it rains a lot also, grass is almost never dry here. I mow every week during the mowing season to keep the grass from getting too tall.@@ColonelSandersLite

@scorpnz4433

9 ай бұрын

@@joetroutt7425 Check underside after each use for grass trapped in the v groove of the pulley (can usually tell as the belt will be raised at that point) or for grass trapped on the outer side of the belt between belt & that belt guard tang thing

Great info. I gave up on self-propelled years ago. I guess I bought the wrong models. The last one I had, I disabled the self-propel gears/belts and pushed it for many years thereafter. Keep the videos coming! Thanks!

I appreciate your honesty!! That's one of the reasons I watch your videos. I agree, or did, with Honda mowers being the best in walk behind mowers. But.. like everything else, I guess they've started cutting corners. The old ones with the cast aluminum deck and the three speed trans. were the best.. They were reliable and would mow for days on end with nothing more than gas and occasional oil change. I bought two of these, used, from a lawn service. Re-sold one and mowed with the other for several years with no problems. It still runs but needs some new tires.

That deck is not nearly as bad as the ones I used to see in my Uncles shop. The worst were those from city dwellers. Most farmers did not use these small walk behind mowers, but occasionally I got one from a farm where the wife wanted to mow an area around the house with a hand mower, and yess even they did not cut when dry or would just let the deck get full. It takes a lot of time (especially self propelled) to clean the decks out completely. The w is rat were those with the "wash out adapters". All that did was leave a damp deck that would collect grass under it even faster! Had horrible smells, especially when mowing around livestock pens! Keep up the good informative videos. I was doing this probably before you were even born (started helping my uncle at 15, now I am 72 (where did the years go).

I've owned a Honda self propelled mower for about 8 years and it has ran flawlessly-started first pull 99% of the time. Then the issues started....the dreaded exhaust valve sticking. My local Honda dealer wanted to put a new motor on it!! I got the valve unstuck by spraying it with carb cleaner and working it in and out. It ran for a short time after until the rocker arm broke and the guide came out. I tapped the guide back in and replaced the rocker arm. I peened the area around the guide, so hopefully that will make it last a while longer. Thank you so much for your videos; they are very informative.

I bought a Honda walk behind 8 years ago and went to check underneath after watching your video. I check before each mow for caked grass/debris underneath but have never really had any issues with that issue. The opening above the blades a little different but not exactly like the model you demonstrated. Looks like I'll be checking this more closely in the future. I've never had any issues with the mower at all. It cuts really well and still starts on the first pull. It's the only pull start lawn equipment I have that my wife can start by herself. Really appreciate your video and taking time to share your knowledge and experience to educate us. Thanks from a new subscriber.

Love your videos! I had a lawnmower shop from 1972 till 1990. Had tons of work, but didn't plan for the business partner getting hooked on dope, and a divorce. I had been fortunate enough to tour the factories for Briggs & Stratton, Tecumseh, and Snapper.

@Petesworkshop2225

Жыл бұрын

The first part sounds cool!

Thank You for the information re: Honda products. I purchased a Honda mower years ago and it has been as excellent as you USED TO say they would be. I will NOT repeat that action when it comes to time for replacement until I get an okay from YOU to do so. YOU are truly an asset to all you provide online. Thank You Again!

Thanks for the information. Unfortunately I happen to have a Honda mower. GCV 160. I've had the mower since at least 2016 and never had any issues. Except taking it into a shop to have them show me how to adjust the self propel system. Just have to loosen a cable and a set nut. Pretty simple. Please keep the videos coming!

Ive used Craftsman mowers with Briggs motors since the 80s. Never an issue, I get 15 years out of them..they still run fine when I give them away and buy a new one. Just like cars, its nice to have a new shiney one after a while. 😎

@georgemurray6845

2 жыл бұрын

Same answer, BUT, I bought a "new" mower with b&s engine and it didn't last an hour before it was smoking. Yes, it had the proper oil level. These new mower are not what they used to be. Doesnt matter the brand

@flipper184

2 жыл бұрын

@@georgemurray6845 I'd like to buy the kind of mower they were selling 15 years ago. Things change. I am mowing 5 acres in Hawaii and it gets wet a lot.

@lorrinbarth1969

2 жыл бұрын

Do they make them like they used to? I have a John Deere walk behind I bought new in 1992. I cut down a fairly large silver maple, threw all the smaller branches in a pile and ran back and forth across it with my mower until the pile was gone. While doing this I cracked the aluminum deck and had to have it welded. I've had to replace the wheels several times because the tread wore out and the wheels were too small. Other than that it still runs like new. And Hondas quit because grass gets in the belt? Ha!

After problems with a few other models, I am sticking with Briggs and Stratton engined mowers. We had one when i was younger, that lasted more than a decade with minimal maintenance. My last non B&S needed pretty major work every year after the first. Just to keep it working. I have a 3 year old B&S engine, and keeping the oil filled keeps it working fine

I had a Murray mulch mower I bought in the late 80s. It lasted well over 10 years. I moved and gave it to my brother. In less than a month, he broke it by going head on to a metal piped metal sprinkler head. He bent the shaft and at high speed it wobbled from being imbalanced. Some people just have the Midas touch in reverse

YOU ARE THE BEST...YOU know your STUFF about these machines

Thank you for this and all of the great posts you make for us. You give us absolutely great advice!!

Thank you so much for your videos . I am a single senior citizen woman and I have to rely on myself for fixing things. These days you can’t find anybody to work or anybody that is honest.

@bwenluck9812

2 жыл бұрын

@Janice Oconnor There ARE honest repair shops out there--you just have to talk to some guys to find out where they are. As far as people with a work ethic--you're right. If I could find someone reliable to cut my grass I wouldn't be doing it, but if the job's too small no one is interested. Best of luck! Keep lookin'....

I seem to gravitate to those videos which showcase problem mowers. And yes, I too, am a more learned small engine mechanic because of you Britt, Steve and Donny. Thanks. While I am at it, I have to give kudos to my three Snapper self propelled mowers w/ Ninja blades. I found my first one pushed out to the street and fell in love with the rear propelled system. Since then I have acquired two more. The 7.25 briggs has some very usable torque. I also appreciate the fact that you can adjust the idle high and low while moving slow or fast and vice versa; an option no longer available on today's mowers. Additionally, there is no mystery on how the self propelled system works. As long as they keep making parts for these Snappers, I'm keeping on keeping on.

You’re in a unique position, so your advice is extremely valuable. Keep it up!

I appreciate the honest and straightforward evaluation. Honda has a great reputation and otherwise someone might think this is a good mower and get taken for a ride. Thank you! Bre Rocks!!!!

I applaud your honesty and desire to help folks out. Many companies that we have known and trust have gone "CHEAP." You'd think that they would want to stay true to their reputation and keep repeat customers. Thank you!

@arnimkrause5696

2 жыл бұрын

@john smith And what makes you the expert here??????

I think I'll stick to my 1980 Lawn-Boy 2-cycle. Starts on the first pull just about every time. BTW-Thank you for putting me on to the Echo Red Armor oil. I ran my first half tank through this same mower (I mixed it to 25:1 instead of the 32:1 that Lawn-Boy specifies since the Red Armor bottles are based on a 50:1 ratio), and I am already seeing a difference in how the old girl runs- with no adjustments, I'm already noticing less 4-cycling and smoother running!

I had a lawn care business (I'm now on your side fixing them instead of braking them) and I bought a HRN because I couldn't quite afford an HRX. It almost lasted a season. I don't recall the drive system having problems, but the wheels literally fell apart. The plastic hubs cracked and the tread actually came off and I couldn't get a simple replacement wheel! I also had issues with the governor, but that's fixable. I bought an HRX and love it. Haven't had any problems other than the coil somehow got out of adjustment.

Never mow wet grass. Let it dry, never mow first thing in the morning. My dad taught me that 50 years ago. Good video.

@briannelson4493

2 жыл бұрын

It only works with a mower designed to handle wet grass. I had a cub cadet zero turn commercial sum years back wet,dry,raining it didn’t matter and it didn’t plug up . I got rid of it because it was killing my back

Like they say, the truth hurts (some). Thanks for presenting this very important video. Makes you wonder why a company would design, test, and still release a product like this. Thank you for providing a great service to so many. Have a great day.

@richardcranium5839

2 жыл бұрын

they test these under good conditions and state the conditions in the owners and operators manual. no real world stuff.

@jayjaynella4539

2 жыл бұрын

The product was designed on a computer, not tested on cutting grass and put into production on the advice of a bean counter.

@johngalt0096

2 жыл бұрын

The suits opted for s/t profits & bonuses. Plus the financial boys overruled the engineering team & mkting group. SOS.

@robertthompson3447

2 жыл бұрын

Real world testing requires real world use. As a lawn servant, I am often very disappointed with people who "review" lawn mowers and release their videos before they ever have to refuel the mower.

You’re spot on, I have a 5 year old 217. The propel cable broke. Worked for days trying to get the new cable to work, tried a different cable, (BTW over 100 variations of this mower), finally took it in for repair, it works but not as new. I don’t mow wet grass. Home Depot no longer sells Hondas, now it’s Milwaukee.

Facts are facts. I'm glad that you mentioned this!

It is virtually impossible not to mow damp grass here in the south and at $600 for a walk behind mower Honda has a serious problem!! Thank you for being a honest mechanic, it goes a long way these days especially at current labor cost. Thank You!!! Pensacola

@deepsleep7822

2 жыл бұрын

@rick: $600.00, not bad. If you keep the mower forever, it’s a one time investment. I’ve had the same Honda mower since 2009. Paid a little over $400.00 for it. So far, amortized out, that’s $33.00 a year. It still functions great and I plan to keep using it. I’ve worn out the rear tires, self propelled. Cost about $60.00 to replace.

I bought a top of the line Honda walk behind mower in 2000 and it's still going strong!

Thank you for this video. We bought the Honda mower last summer and yes my husband mows early in the morning when he gets off work so it is damp grass. This is a great informational video. Guess we will wash it after every use. It actually has a hose connection on the deck to clean the deck but I don't think it will clean things out in the belt area.

What a great service you've done. Thank you!

My honda from 1986 is still running, The HR 214 , Best mower ever . Im sure Honda will address this problem .

@tedbell4416

2 ай бұрын

Got the same one from 89 or 90 , I think it's the best mower ever made

Thanks for the information. My 13 year Toro took a dump last week was actually going purchase this Honda mover in the next few days but I guess I’ll just go Toro again. Thanks again.

@frankl1024

2 жыл бұрын

Buy it,,,,, it is a good mower. I’ve had mine two years now and works well. Just clean and maintain it and you won’t have the issues presented in this video. I think these issues were owner neglect and miss use, as well as not maintaining and cleaning.

I really like and respect honesty.

yep, I have same mower. big rock got lodged right there and dug a groove in the belt. It only happened that once and I've used it 3 years. I love the the mower. I'll try to stay away from rocks and wet grass

We are a small engine repair shop, as well, seeing the same things as you are ! My mechanic is a first rate fabricator ! So he made a sheet metal ring, or plate for the cover in the opening ! So far, so good ! We will see how well it works out over time ! As for the plastic parts, shame on Honda ! We may need to form a new cover for this, but remains to be seen !

@johnhutchison9782

Жыл бұрын

Honda won't be caring at all now that they are stepping away from building lawn mowers.

Awesome advise as always! I’m guilty of mowing damp grass but I clean the mower when I am done

@johnmicheal3547

2 жыл бұрын

I don't. Tge old protect from the new.

@haneyoakie14

2 жыл бұрын

Sometimes you have to mow wet grass. If it rained last night, and is sunny today and rain is forecast for next 3 days, and you are going out of town 4 days from now, you better cut today or you will need the hay bailer next week.

@janicegipson4691

2 жыл бұрын

If I only mowed dry grass, I could only mow in August, maybe a couple weeks in July, lol. Grass would be up to my shoulders & still wet at ground level - you do the best you can, hope for a couple ‘dry’ days before the next storm....

@garywells7646

Жыл бұрын

I’m with you! Take a few minutes to wash the deck out after mowing will save you a lot of headaches

I was going to go and purchase this exact mower tomorrow. My 517 finally bit the dust after 13 years of problem free service. Was going to buy the Honda again because the last was a pretty good mower. Glad I watched this video. Will need to buy something different, hopefully reliable.

I wish I had this info 5 years ago. I have not used it that much, as we have had a lawn service, but may be using it more in the future, will keep my fingers crossed

Hey Chickanic! Good information and as you stated it is about that particular model. I personally own a Honda HRX 217 VKA 190 cc that I’ve had for more years than I can remember and have definitely put it through it’s paces living here in Oregon with our wet climate. Yes, I do my own maintenance and keep up on it and have never had a problem. Personally I swear by Honda but even the best can fail now and then. Keep up the great videos they are very informative.

@montgomeryfitzpatrick473

Жыл бұрын

My HRX 217 is going on 3. Glad to hear they last

@whereisthedollar

Жыл бұрын

@@montgomeryfitzpatrick473 My HRR216 is going on 8 years. No problems. I do blow it out after every use and clean under deck. DIY. Oil change, filter, plug every year and new blades every other year. I guess with Honda ending mower production they didn't really care as much on this unit.

@smokeycanuck8058

Жыл бұрын

The HRX is a Hydrostatic transmission though which is different than the HRN's belt drive system.

@ZenithClarity

Жыл бұрын

@@smokeycanuck8058 And the HRNs system sucks.

I remember my Father buying a new Honda self propelled mower (about 25 years ago). The day he got it, it wouldn't start. They had to send another mower to his house. I've had my Toro self propelled for 20+ years and other than oil changes and a couple of drive wheels, it's been problem free to this day. Its never seen the inside of a repair shop. Still runs like new.

@jmabs5096

2 жыл бұрын

Still got my 20332 toro recyler with the beloved quantum flathead from 2008-2010 something like that, other than the cheap plastic drive Pinons mated to steel sprockets (yea good idea toro..) fixed that with aftermarket metal to metal conversion, still chugging along nicely! I have plenty of honda products, their engines never break!

So glad I watched this . I was considering this exact model , never mind .

Thank you so much for this information I almost bought this mower but after seeing your video I purchased another brand.

I would have to agree with you, I bought a Honda self-propelled lawnmower and about a year later the rear wheels locked up when pulling it backwards. I had to constantly work on it. I ended up giving it to the person who bought our home.

@robertthompson3447

2 жыл бұрын

I also experienced this back when I had Hondas. I became very familiar with the self-propelled system. Because I was using them for work, I couldn't have them sit at a shop for someone else to repair. Last time I went to buy parts for one of them, someone on eBay was selling a kit that had all of the parts all in one purchase. Nice to know I'm not the only one 😎

Love your page. Never apologize for working.

Thanks for sharing information no matter where it leads, or who it's by

Thank you and well advised! I have used and purchased many mowers over the past 70 years around (30), and consider that older Honda mowers were good, however there were many other good ones. All the mowers I used and purchased were well taken care of and maintained. I liked the 2 stroke Lawn-Boys' the best, because they were simple, reliable and easy to repair. On the 4 stroke engines I used quality oil, changed it often, and used 2 oz. of oil per quart, additive like Prolong. I don't recall ever wearing out an engine I have bent many a drive shafts by hitting a rock..

@boosted2.4_sky

2 жыл бұрын

And that is the key ...knowing your equipment at home and servicing them regularly will go a long way

@janetyeoman1544

2 жыл бұрын

I picked up a used commercial Lawn Boy with the red wheels. Light and powerful , starts first pull, great for steep ditches. Using 50:1 oil, no visible smoke.

@paulne1514

2 жыл бұрын

I have half the years you do, but have only purchased 2 mowers. Both Briggs & Stratton motors. The only parts I ever had to buy were spark plugs, a couple of air filters and 1 coil. Mowers stay outside(no shed or garage)

I have a Toro Super Recycler that I bought new in 2004 and it’s still going strong. I’ve never replaced the drive belt and have never have had to adjust the "personal pace" drive system. I’ve replaced the spark plug 3 times only and 3 seasons ago I replaced the rear drive wheels. It’s been impeccable.

@user-nq8vm2iv9v

Ай бұрын

Got one from 2002. Great mower. Compression still strong, Briggs engine.

Thank you. Its all good information. I have an older self propelled walk behind with a Honda engine and its been a trouble free machine but its getting long in the tooth and I need to replace it. I will be looking at different brands.

Thanks. I was actually going to get this mower tomorrow. Having issues getting my 1991 John deere fpz carb fixed. Everything on the mower is great, just a carb issue.

Awesome video. True and to the point. It seems all manufacturers has gone really cheap. Keep up the videos.

@kevinbolin7665

2 жыл бұрын

Oh they have .....Truly ....I recently compared push mowers in shop from the 70s threw the 2020s that Briggs made and damned the difference was scary......Dare I even say shameful .....My only regret was not having the mindset of making a video when I had such a golden opportunity .

Wow! Surprised by Honda putting this on the market. Hope they saw this and recalls this model. They should pay you for quality control. Great stuff. Thanks.

@philliphall5198

Жыл бұрын

They got out of push mower because of this junk

i'm really glad to hear this about this mower. I'm just a hobbiyst, but I couldn't believe how difficult it was to perform basic maintenance on them. I just kept taking parts off while thinking I must have been doing something wrong or that I was missing some obvious other way of getting to the problem. Another problem is that the rear wheels tend to rust on to the axle and seize up. When that happens, it destroys the transmission if the owner insists on getting it to run. Taking off and replacing it with a new is another two hour nightmare, and the replacement is prohibitively expensive. No one ever opts to do it. That's why I have like three of these ophans in my shop.

I’ve used your suggested products and they have been okay!!

Great info! Thanks. FWIW it seems Honda products can only be bought from Honda dealers in Canada. The lowest end HRN216 retails for over $700 CDN before tax! Thankfully my 23 year old MTD is still running. Yes it has about 5 lbs of mig wire in it (keeping the deck going) and all 4 wheels have a ridiculous amount of camber and very little tread left now. It ain't pretty but still starts, runs and cuts great. I'd hate to pay over $700 for a mower only to find out it was garbage. Hopefully you saved a lot of folks from making a horrible and costly mistake.

@tylercruit6261

2 жыл бұрын

I like your style, had a craftsman garden tractor I mad maxed together for a few years. Eventually got a ZT with a fabricated deck.

@michaelmaker8169

2 жыл бұрын

@@tylercruit6261 I just got a Craftsman last year. How old was/is yours? Just had forward shift seemed to skip out on me. Doesn't seem to fully engage...? Have you had that problem?

@col470

2 жыл бұрын

My mowers are older than I! Good ole 2 stroke victa's!

I’d take your advice or opinion over a salesperson’s any day of the week! Great content!

One state down in Louisiana. Rode across the state on I-40 from Memphis to Alma and picked up I-49 to where it ended into US 71 and crossed into Missouri on my motorcycle, September 2020.

I remember installing replacement the self propelled belt (as the original belt had snapped) and rear wheel drive assembly on a recent Honda like this (pictured in video) and boy!, was a real pain because disassemby and reassembly is TIME CONSUMING as reassembly must be in correct order to restore proper functionality of the machine! Thanks for the video!

Thanks for the heads-up girl! 😉👍

Morning Ms. Bree, I have one from 2019 fall time line i bought from home depot. Less than 10 hrs on it Stopped from rolling backwards. Wheels would slide. Found out this was a common problem. Sand or grit would get into drive system and thats it. Fixed problem by purchasing a self propelled snapper ninja. All good now

@josephpuchel6497

2 жыл бұрын

Hey I recently picked up a Snapper commercial 21” with Kawasaki motor. It was Free and only needed a coil.

@jamespeacock7202

2 жыл бұрын

Great. Nice find.

Kudos to you! The best recommendations for buying new/used products typically come from reputable repair shops like yours. Hopefully someone at honda is watching

I’ve had the same Craftsman mower for about 29 years. Just do a tune and oil change every 2 years. Fired it up today, started in the first pull!!

That's unfortunate for Honda. I've got a Honda walk behind self propelled mower and it's probably 15 to 20 years old and has never skipped a beat, never needed to go in for repairs and starts flawlessly, like most Honda motors. I wonder if Honda has changed some things and cheapened the manner that they build their mowers. I can't remember if the bottom side of mine (around the self propelled mechanism and pulley) is open but I'll take a look next time I mow. Anyway, thanks for the info. I'll know to stay away from buying a new one and keep my old mower running for another 20 years.

@deepsleep7822

2 жыл бұрын

@chief: same here. I’ve had 3 Honda mowers. Earliest I bought was 1985. Got rid of it after about 10 years. It had an all metal deck and was heavy. My wife complained about the weight when she wanted to mow grass (about 3 times a year). Bought a new all composite deck Honda. The last Honda I bought was in 2009 and still have it and use it. Still runs great. I clean it up when I’m done mowing. My neighbor used to give me a hard time about cleaning it. He’s on his third mower (none of his were Honda’s). He never cleaned his, bought cheap ones.

@ChiefHasben

2 жыл бұрын

@@deepsleep7822 HA! We've got the same neighbor. Borrowed both my Honda mower and snow blower when his wouldn't start, was broken or in the shop for repair. He always bragged about getting a good deal on a cheap mower/blower and last summer he broke down and bought a Honda mower and hasn't needed mine since.

@Horizon301.

2 жыл бұрын

If think most lawnmowers were just better made. We have a champion 2003 with a Briggs classic 35, no issues at all and it hasn’t been maintained well to be honest in terms of servicing yet it doesn’t skip a beat. The only issue has been a bit of rust on the deck but as I said, it’s been left outside and not maintained as well as I now know you should. Anything new seems to be riddled with problems

I have an HRX about 6 years old. So far so good. Change oil every spring and plug and keep filter changed during season and run 93 non ethanol gas only.

@dudekanic

2 жыл бұрын

This line has been coming in the last year. Until then every Honda mower has been spot on. They will straighten this out, might take a year or so, but they'll get it right.

@rods.3245

2 жыл бұрын

@@dudekanic Hey Ron, Are these machines not covered under warranty? I advise people not to buy any new equipment. It's all junk in my opinion unless you're gonna spend big money.

@dudekanic

2 жыл бұрын

@@rods.3245 Yes they would be, however, the Honda dealer here has been 6 months out, so we are faster.

I enjoy watching your videos they are very informative I have several pieces of small equipment With Honda engines on them the biggest problem I have is carburetor issues.

Thankyou for pointing this defect out.