Saturn vs Dreamcast - The Fighting Games

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I end my Sega related fighting trilogy with an episode dedicated to the question, which system has the best fighting games, the Saturn or Dreamcast?
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Episode Notes:
1. All games on real hardware.
2. This episode was a mess from start to finish. My software Vegas kept crashing while trying to complete the edit. No matter what I tried, it crashed to the tune of 20+ times. I ended up having to drop the special effects back in some of the transitions and completely delete the PIP segments that showed all the KOF titles running at once for each machine. Only then did it complete.
3. I always enjoyed playing Street Fighter 3, but it was never my favorite. I never enjoyed the roster and the end boss was the cheapest bastard in fighting history. Life bar replenishment should be a no no in any fighting game.
4. The Saturn has nearly twice the fighting games of the Dreamcast. Check out segaretro.org for complete lists.
5. I am partial to 2D fighting games, and that definitely played a roll in my decision.
6. If you've never played Sokko Seitokai or Groove on Fight for the Saturn, do yourself a favor and try them.
7. My daughter helped me capture a bunch of this footage. She is becoming quite the fighting game fan.
8. I did not want to focus heavily on any one game in this epsisode. That's why I did the two Top 10 episodes, in fact. I wanted instead to look at the two libraries overall in order to get a bigger picture.
9. I purposely stayed away from the controller debate. I prefer the Saturn pad in every instance, but I know the DC pad has its fans.
10. While both these systems enjoyed incredible fighting game libraries, they both were eventually surpassed by the later systems. The PS2 had a massive library of them, and digital availability has made most of them easy to get nowadays. The Saturn still has the most that remain exclusive, however.

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  • @Edexote
    @Edexote3 жыл бұрын

    The Saturn's controller for 2D fighting is still unmatched to this day.

  • @PsychomachineryEBM

    @PsychomachineryEBM

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. 6 frontal buttons are the real deal, unlike shoulders/triggers

  • @Dagasm

    @Dagasm

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm surprised he didn't mention the controllers, although both systems have arcade sticks and there's also an adapter to use a Saturn controller with the Dreamcast.

  • @rossoreilly05

    @rossoreilly05

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or just use an arcade stick like a real man.

  • @yjzep9922

    @yjzep9922

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well... unmatched until you get a stick lol. I can't play arcade fighters with a pad.

  • @rossoreilly05

    @rossoreilly05

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@FloridaEbikes well sure, an arcade cabinet stick is the bee's knees, nobody is arguing that. But a decent arcade stick is still preferable to a pad. DC has an Ascii pad anyway if you really like you're controllers for fighting games.

  • @GTVNewsForGamers
    @GTVNewsForGamers3 жыл бұрын

    As someone whose favourite genre is fighting games, the Saturn and Dreamcast are both gifts from God himself.

  • @HCKNEOBOOM

    @HCKNEOBOOM

    3 жыл бұрын

    The NeoGEo is a gift from GOD! If you like fighting games, look no further than NeoGeo perfect Arcade games.

  • @THENAMEISQUICKMAN

    @THENAMEISQUICKMAN

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@HCKNEOBOOM Sure, but the Saturn and Dreamcast had a good selection of both Capcom titles AND SNK titles.

  • @johndewberryiii9925

    @johndewberryiii9925

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@HCKNEOBOOM absolutely if only it could have played those capcom games too tho.

  • @frostyhighway9011

    @frostyhighway9011

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm agree with you I can't just pick a single game that I like on these systems. There all great!

  • @TechWithSean
    @TechWithSean3 жыл бұрын

    Gotta give it to the Dreamcast. MvC2, Garou, Last Blade 2, Power Stone, CvSNK...

  • @stephenoleary9579

    @stephenoleary9579

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yep, with you there. Quality of quantity.

  • @stevesteve0521

    @stevesteve0521

    3 жыл бұрын

    True but Saturn had all the street fighter 2s, and alphas which I’ll argue are better than the games you mentioned.

  • @TheObserver85

    @TheObserver85

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@stevesteve0521 Its all preferences man. I actually prefer SF3 games over all the other SF games. And MvC1, MvC2 and CvS2 are in my top 5 fave Capcom fighters. Mark of the Wolves, Last Blade 2, KOF2002 and KOF99DM are arguably the best SNK games ever made. I love both Saturn and DC and if you are a Fighting game fan, you can't go wrong with either. I just would prefer to have both. 👍

  • @stevesteve0521

    @stevesteve0521

    3 жыл бұрын

    TheObserver85 no doubt. It’s funny it’s the opposite to me I actually find the SF3 games as the second weakest in the SF series behind the EX games, heck I prefer SFV over the SF3 games. But like you said it’s all about preferences and both the Saturn and Dreamcast have a fantastic library of games

  • @TheObserver85

    @TheObserver85

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@stevesteve0521 LoL, I definitely understand why people don't like SF3 games. SFA is my 2nd fave SF series though. As a matter of I think SFA series are the most well made games of the SF Franchise. I just have a soft spot for SF3. Saturn also has more Fighting game variety. So as a Fighting game fan, you can only go right if you do get a Saturn. 👍

  • @gamingblowsofficial
    @gamingblowsofficial3 жыл бұрын

    Now this is the kinda content I’m looking for at 3am, baby.

  • @townlinetim876

    @townlinetim876

    3 жыл бұрын

    That’s what’s up

  • @4ArchieLee

    @4ArchieLee

    3 жыл бұрын

    Word!

  • @oatmealbatman9478

    @oatmealbatman9478

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yep, dude knows his Sega stuff. It's refreshing to hear if your an 80's baby.

  • @Scorpion24

    @Scorpion24

    3 жыл бұрын

    Let me guess, you just left pornhub? thought, shit the saturn and dreamast............Yeah we have all been there

  • @plasmaoctopus1728

    @plasmaoctopus1728

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Scorpion24 I skipped the porn for this honestly.

  • @paulj5336
    @paulj53363 жыл бұрын

    There's just something special about using that ram expansion on Saturn. Knowing you were getting some extra juice out of the machine to get closer to arcade perfect. I used to love playing KOF '95 on saturn.

  • @heilaw7002

    @heilaw7002

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yep, I love KOF95 on Saturn too. Those sound tracks are absolutely masterpiece.

  • @thavashgovender4345

    @thavashgovender4345

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have the ram pack and Samurai Showdown 3 and 4 ! It’s awesome

  • @RetroGamesBoy78

    @RetroGamesBoy78

    3 жыл бұрын

    Paul J KoF 95 has a Rom cartridge with Actual game data on it, its not a Ram expansion.

  • @vaaz_rodriguez
    @vaaz_rodriguez3 жыл бұрын

    CAPCOM Vs. SNK will always be my favorite. It was a dream come true... Thanks for the video mate.

  • @ZMangz
    @ZMangz3 жыл бұрын

    Really depends on your taste. For me, Capcom vs. SNK 2 and Third Strike basically make the Dreamcast the best system ever. Didn't know there were so many esoteric fighters on the Saturn, I should check some of them out.

  • @spencerstevens2175

    @spencerstevens2175

    2 жыл бұрын

    get a ln action replay card for Saturn. let's you play imports and has the ram built in

  • @CaptainMauser
    @CaptainMauser3 жыл бұрын

    When it comes to quality Dreamcast is the winner! No fighting game is near Soul Calibur nor Dead or alive 2!!

  • @zylowolf7919

    @zylowolf7919

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not to mention the babes.

  • @skurinski

    @skurinski

    3 жыл бұрын

    Alpha 3 >>>

  • @petes1721
    @petes17213 жыл бұрын

    One of the most important games in my gaming history was having X-Men COTA to on the Saturn (UK). Although I had already played games like Darkstalkers in the arcade, to have this kind of gold at home for the first time was simply incredible.

  • @SegaLordX

    @SegaLordX

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s amazing how a single game can hit you at the right time and you just never forget it.

  • @voteDC

    @voteDC

    3 жыл бұрын

    The shear frustration of fighting Magneto when the AI would take him into the top corner of the screen and he'd just spam one move making it near impossible to get to him. When I finally beat him, oddly enough with Sentinel, was one of my gaming highlights.

  • @jessmaterne1748

    @jessmaterne1748

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was the same way with Virtua fighter 2 on Saturn and soulcalibur on Dreamcast. Coming from the terrible 16 bit arcade ports to arcade perfect ports was mind blowing. It almost made up for my parents not buying me a neogeo. Especially because I snagged a lot of those for both systems as well lol

  • @deathisaprimitiveconcept

    @deathisaprimitiveconcept

    3 жыл бұрын

    This for me but with SFA2.

  • @socillizt4life

    @socillizt4life

    3 жыл бұрын

    My 2 favourite console 2d fighters of the time were both Japanese imports for my 50/60hz modded SATURN.For a home console to play Vampire Savour (Darkstalkers 3) & Street Fighter Zero(alpha)3 in such an arcade perfect way was truly amazing.the extra 4mb memory cart made an already 2d powerhouse console into the best console for 2d games,even against its next gen’ competition imho

  • @mayomonkey-gen1
    @mayomonkey-gen13 жыл бұрын

    The main problem I have with the saturn is most of the stuff wasnt released in North America.

  • @zylowolf7919

    @zylowolf7919

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also declared dead far too soon. But Dreamcast was the same.

  • @LittleBigKid707b

    @LittleBigKid707b

    11 ай бұрын

    Who cares if they weren't released in North America. As someone that still plays Saturn now, most of my games are Imports. Saturn is . An import friendly system

  • @nimaiiikun
    @nimaiiikun3 жыл бұрын

    Saturn, I loved Groove on Fight for it. one of the best and VERY underrated fighter for hte system.

  • @SegaLordX

    @SegaLordX

    3 жыл бұрын

    I liked it as well. Great animation.

  • @nimaiiikun

    @nimaiiikun

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SegaLordX i also agree with your video. DC for 3d fighters, Saturn for 2d fighters overall. I just found a lot of the saturn's 3d fighters to have aged poorly being first gen polygon and all.

  • @Deathtank75

    @Deathtank75

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agreed!

  • @ravagingwolverine

    @ravagingwolverine

    3 жыл бұрын

    I took a chance and bought Groove on Fight back in the day. I replayed it about a year ago and really got a new appreciation for it. It definitely has a lot going for it and some unique ideas. The final boss section is rough. Overall, it's a solid fighter and one I plan to return to more often.

  • @AspieGamer1986
    @AspieGamer19863 жыл бұрын

    I've always liked the Capcom vs. Series more than Street Fighter. I remember when X-men vs. Street Fighter released here stateside and was a hit in arcades.

  • @misfire6131
    @misfire61313 жыл бұрын

    Saturn wins!! Either way Sega fans can play great fighting games on DC or SS. Thank you SLX for the amazing content! We are grateful for your existence!

  • @budgiecat9039

    @budgiecat9039

    3 жыл бұрын

    Saturn wins 2D. Dreamcast wins 3D.

  • @CasperEgas
    @CasperEgas3 жыл бұрын

    For me Dreamcast wins this easily.

  • @MorrisseyMuse

    @MorrisseyMuse

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think completely the opposite, Dreamcast versions of some games weren't glitchy and buggy. Saturn versions ate the purest beat em ups you can buy.

  • @balaam_7087
    @balaam_70873 жыл бұрын

    I hope you never change your format or style. These videos are all really fascinating to watch and I usually learn a few new things after they’re over. This is one of my favorite channels!

  • @ClockedIt
    @ClockedIt3 жыл бұрын

    I love both systems to death but even though the Saturn has the quantity. I think overall the quality of the Dreamcast fighting scene is better, but like you said, both systems have an incredible library. Great video.

  • @innercritic5879
    @innercritic58793 жыл бұрын

    The Sega Saturn really did an awesome job with its fighting games variety. I miss my Saturn.

  • @kanekaosaard7449
    @kanekaosaard74493 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video man. I'm so new to the Saturn and I'm just in awe of its lineup of fighting games. I think I'll stick to the ones I can afford for now (or go repro whenever it suits me), but I tell ya, even the basic fighting lineup of Fighters Megamix, DOA1 and even Vampire Hunter are so amazing that they make me regret missing them all those years ago during my heyday with the PS1. This is great work SLX and hope this gets a ton of views. Thanks again!!!!

  • @Footender
    @Footender3 жыл бұрын

    Great video series, I like your format and what you set out to do here with the first 2 vids on each console then the vs episode. Well Done!

  • @matthewmacgregor09
    @matthewmacgregor093 жыл бұрын

    What!! I’m a huge fan of this channel, and was just thinking to myself how great of an idea this would be for a video, and low and behold you just uploaded one. Excellent timing good sir.

  • @evshrug

    @evshrug

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you liked this, look at the two recent videos that lead up to it, each taking a focused look at one platform! 👍🏻 Glad you had fun watching, that’s what it’s all about!

  • @raccoonstarsmember
    @raccoonstarsmember3 жыл бұрын

    As always, excellent work, my dude.

  • @clines.alabat
    @clines.alabat3 жыл бұрын

    Man, this is some serious quality content.

  • @fresnokila3
    @fresnokila33 жыл бұрын

    My top 2 favorite fighting games that I keep going back to are Garou: Mark of the Wolves and Capcom vs SNK 2, but it's hard not to enjoy any game in this genre when playing against your friends. Great video!

  • @IvanSantanaEu
    @IvanSantanaEu3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Lord X. This has brought me many fond memories. I had a happy youth with Saturn and Dreamcast.

  • @RetroBonheur
    @RetroBonheur3 жыл бұрын

    One of your best video, I had to drop my first comment !:) Well detailed, and showing how difficult it is to pick a clear winner.

  • @Badguy10472
    @Badguy104723 жыл бұрын

    There's no clear winner here in my opinion. Both systems do me proud. Great vid Sega Lord X.

  • @TiGerSushX
    @TiGerSushX3 жыл бұрын

    Excellent work and video 🤘

  • @retroworld8090
    @retroworld80902 жыл бұрын

    Great video, you put in a ton of work.

  • @ruudvanloon
    @ruudvanloon3 жыл бұрын

    As always, enjoyed another great video by SLX, always well put together and you can tell instantly that he knows his stuff. This was a great comparison and either winner would have been fair, depending on personal preference. But I must admit I initially actually expected a top 10 for both platforms combined, making it basically a top 10 fighting game list for all sega consoles, ever. Maybe food for another nice video :-)

  • @rustymixer2886
    @rustymixer28863 жыл бұрын

    Great video the arcade perfect ports and controller give 32 bit Saturn over 128 bit DC wow

  • @iruthl3ss916
    @iruthl3ss9163 жыл бұрын

    Keep up the amazing content! Thank you

  • @l1uchill
    @l1uchill2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome Video and Content SLX!

  • @RitterDesHimmels1
    @RitterDesHimmels13 жыл бұрын

    Another great video. To be honest you don't upload new videos as often as some other youtubers. But the content is always worth waiting for!

  • @HybridAngelZero
    @HybridAngelZero3 жыл бұрын

    I absolutely adore the Dreamcast, and I'm really starting to fall in love with the Saturn (I didn't start getting games for it til recently), but at much as I love the DC, I will say that the controller is such a huge step down from the Saturn's, especially for 2D fighters. To this day, I still don't understand Sega's reasoning behind giving their "next gen" machine two less buttons than the previous

  • @user-yk1cw8im4h

    @user-yk1cw8im4h

    3 жыл бұрын

    how do you not understand when every single modern consoles and the so called "next gen" ps5 and xbox series x etc have that "two less buttons" design.

  • @HybridAngelZero

    @HybridAngelZero

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@user-yk1cw8im4h I understand why every modern console has the four button diamond layout for the face buttons, I just mean the amount of buttons total on the whole controller xD They really should have given the DC some equivalent to L1 and R1. The Saturn had ABC, XYZ, L and R, but Dreamcast removed C and Z without replacing them with anything. This made some otherwise solid ports (Like Soul Reaver, for example) have some awkward controls

  • @streamingnowstreamingnow2568
    @streamingnowstreamingnow25683 жыл бұрын

    Such an awesome channel with plenty of love and passion.

  • @rafaelmartines
    @rafaelmartines3 жыл бұрын

    Another good thing, usually Dreamcast emulators, support Naomi, Naomi GD-Rom and Atomiswave arcade systems, that are basically where Dreamcast is based on, so you can get a few more fighting titles in the list that wasn't released on Dreamcast like The King of Fighters Neowave, The King of Fighters XI and NeoGeo Battle Coliseum

  • @antonymcewan9987
    @antonymcewan99873 жыл бұрын

    Great video! I only have a handful of these games, but they are ALL amazing! Great times. Please PLEASE do a similar video for the shmups!

  • @oldschoolsaturn7020
    @oldschoolsaturn70203 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video as usual 👍

  • @jeremiahbilas
    @jeremiahbilas3 жыл бұрын

    This is brilliant! BEST VIDEO GAME VIDEO of 2020! thank you.

  • @Harkness78
    @Harkness783 жыл бұрын

    MvC2 is my favorite Dreamcast fighter, despite the presence of Soul Calibur and Powerstone and Project Justice. MvC2 is just the finest 2d fighter of all time. Favorite Saturn fighter is probably Virtual Fighter 2. Such sweet simplicity. I also really liked Fighting Vipers, Last Bronx, and the X-Men and Marvel Capcom fighters, never got to play the vs series on Saturn as I never imported, no ram cart. edit: as the video went on I could tell he was going to go with the Saturn, which is awesome and it is very close and that is a fine choice. But in that early neo-geo section, man I would rather play Last Blade and Mark of the Wolves forever on Dreamcast than any of that Fatal fury or king of Fighters crap on Saturn. Sometimes variety isn't enough, especially with fighting games. I would have gone with Dreamcast.

  • @TheObserver85

    @TheObserver85

    3 жыл бұрын

    @DemonSlayer ByKnight Only lacks the imports games experience. As someone who imported Saturn games and DC games. I give the edge to DC as far as far as Fighters go. I think Saturn really does have better underrated fighting game gems. But the quality of DC fighters is still talked about all over the internet and for good reason.

  • @kekeke8988

    @kekeke8988

    3 жыл бұрын

    Tekken > Virtua Fighter

  • @TheObserver85

    @TheObserver85

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kekeke8988 I prefer Virtua Fighter gameplay wise. But I really like both.

  • @Jburneyjr
    @Jburneyjr Жыл бұрын

    The fact that the dreamcast was out for such a short time but had so many entries is something thats admirable.

  • @coreymcmanus4749
    @coreymcmanus47493 жыл бұрын

    I remember beating x-men children of the atom after tge 1,000th try. That game was difficult no matter the setting. Capcom has always been one of my favorites.

  • @HoroJoga
    @HoroJoga3 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always! Just a small correction: The KOF98 for the Dreamcast is still exclusive for the console. The Ultimate Match remaster on PS2 features 3D backgrounds, but they're entirely different from the ones made for the DC. So we have two 3D versions of all stages from that game!

  • @Kioskism772
    @Kioskism7723 жыл бұрын

    Your videos are legit really good dude❤️🧡💛💚💙💜

  • @LouDominquez21
    @LouDominquez213 жыл бұрын

    Your fighting game videos are amazing and this battle of the titans is excellent. I own those two systems for their fighting games line up and I can't imagine the fun you had going through these titles. Sega fighters, ftw.

  • @gstreet187
    @gstreet1872 жыл бұрын

    SEGA LORD X , you are the very best 👌🏾. The depth and thought that goes into your videos is very much enjoyed.

  • @andrewmaasch1724
    @andrewmaasch17243 жыл бұрын

    Can't argue with you there, man! Both systems are absolute monsters when it comes to fighting games, particularly Capcom titles. I have to give the edge to the Saturn here too. My most played fighting games are on Saturn and I play X-men vs SF more than I play Marvel vs Capcom 1 & 2. Also the SF collection on Saturn gets regular play, even over my copy of SF Alpha 3 on DC. Great video - really enjoyed it! ✊

  • @Dagasm
    @Dagasm3 жыл бұрын

    Well done and entertaining. How about a shoot 'em up comparison?

  • @jesterssketchbook
    @jesterssketchbook3 жыл бұрын

    man the art in those old Capcom fighters still llooks so gorgeous

  • @samuelanthonysmith
    @samuelanthonysmith3 жыл бұрын

    Xmen VS Street Fighter was awesome, though my love for Street Fighter 3 means Dreamcast wins but we are talking a real close battle, like 51% to 49% in Dreamcast favour.

  • @LordValFromHell
    @LordValFromHell3 жыл бұрын

    The Dreamcast was a dream for me as a fighting game fan. Just the Original Controller was not a perfect match, but there was a fantastic Arcade Stick and many alternative Controllers. Another great genre on the Dreamcast were Lightgun games. The Saturn had some too, but after the Namco Lightgun Shooters on PlayStation 1 and 2, the Dreamcast library was the best.

  • @snkfightfan0187
    @snkfightfan01873 жыл бұрын

    IMO, this is a tide for me. I couldn't have one without the other and that is why I own both consoles. You made a great case for both. Great video!

  • @SAW_249
    @SAW_2493 жыл бұрын

    Dead or Alive 2 was/is my favorite fighter by far

  • @multitrackdriftu
    @multitrackdriftu3 жыл бұрын

    Slight correction: Guilty Gear X didn't run at a higher resolution than most 2D games at that point, it ran at a higher res than all of them: it was the first ever 480p 2D game period. Prior to its release, only the character select screen of Cotton Boomerang had been natively rendered in 480p.

  • @PAKA62

    @PAKA62

    3 жыл бұрын

    PC gaming had hires 2D games way before that

  • @jessmaterne1748

    @jessmaterne1748

    3 жыл бұрын

    Johnny Bond like what?

  • @rossoreilly05

    @rossoreilly05

    3 жыл бұрын

    Capcom Vs SNK and Marvel Vs Capcom 2 both ran in 480p.

  • @TheTrueBro

    @TheTrueBro

    3 жыл бұрын

    People seem to be confused. Marvel vs Capcom 2 and Capcom vs SNK 2 do run at 640x480, however the only things that are actually displaying at that resolution are the backgrounds and the effects. Unfortunately the sprites are heavily upscaled and that's why you see too much pixelation on them. The same applies to a lot of 2D PC games back in the day (sure you could run them at the highest res of the time, but pixelation will still be there). Guilty Gear X, on the other hand, is a game that features everything rendered for that high resolution. No pixelation at all. So yeah, Guilty Gear X was the first 2D game of its kind (graphics wise). That game by itself saved the 2D games back then from being seen as "obsolete" and more developers kept on in that path (like Examu, Vanilla and etc)

  • @ItPutsTheLotionOnItsSkin

    @ItPutsTheLotionOnItsSkin

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ridiculous comment. Toonstruck (1995) on the PC is 2D and 480p. That's *FIVE YEARS* before Guilty Gear X. Another is Leisure Suit Larry 7 (1996). Both are 2D point and click games, but they wasn't even the first 2D games to use 480p on PC. There's also a Japanese computer called the PC98 that ran many 2D games at _higher_ res than 480p before the DC was even released. By the time Guilty Gear X came out in 2000, 480p was low res by PC standards. I was gaming at 1024x768 on PC then, practically a "HD" resolution, although they were all 3D games because i wasn't in to 2D. Saying GGX is the first ever 480p 2D game is laughable and flat out wrong. So it's not even remotely close to being the first, but it was possibly the first _true_ 480p 2D *fighter* on console where the sprites and backgrounds are all 640x480 (480p), because as The True Bro pointed out above, other 2D fighters did use that res before GGX.

  • @chrisw8069
    @chrisw80693 жыл бұрын

    Totally agree with this. Nice work.

  • @Rationalific
    @Rationalific3 жыл бұрын

    What a fum romp through the history of these two fantastic platforms and the fighting games that were released for them! I enjoyed my Saturn and Dreamcast immensely, and fighting games were some of the biggest reasons for that!

  • @johnatahsantos5859
    @johnatahsantos58593 жыл бұрын

    The Saturn controller is the best for fighting games. And this type of games needs a perfect pad.

  • @davidste60

    @davidste60

    3 жыл бұрын

    True. Retro-bit are working on a solution for the Dreamcast. But for now you can use their Saturn/Genesis remakes for PC with a Brook adapter.

  • @KevTheGalaxybender
    @KevTheGalaxybender3 жыл бұрын

    I felt fighting vipers 1 was better than 2.

  • @KevTheGalaxybender
    @KevTheGalaxybender3 жыл бұрын

    + Sega Lord X I figured out where your entire intro came from. The music sounds likes it's from Astal and the "SEGAAAAAAA" sounds like it's from the splash screen from Battle Arena Toshinden Remix.

  • @AyaC
    @AyaC3 жыл бұрын

    I am glad that you mention Ultraman Hikari no Kyojin Densentsu on the Sega Saturn as it is one of the two games that used a special RAM cartridge to run and I have enjoyed it as an Ultraman fan until Ultraman Fighting Evolution 3 on the PS2 that is the best Ultraman Fighting game ever till today. For Saturn, the KOF and Real Bout Fatal Fury series are my favourite fighting games. For Dreamcast, Marvel vs Capcom 2 and Tech Romancer.

  • @entertainmentwizard2703
    @entertainmentwizard27033 жыл бұрын

    Great video!

  • @BigHilm
    @BigHilm3 жыл бұрын

    Great vid! I never had either system back in the day but now luckily have many of the titles you mentioned for both systems, which I hv aquired over years of collecting. I love them both, but wd agree the Saturn just edges it.

  • @Rei_Tatekei
    @Rei_Tatekei3 жыл бұрын

    Saturn has the definitive KOF 97, Samurai Shodown IV, and Alpha 3. Dreamcast has the definitive CvS2, MvC2, and Soul Calibur.

  • @richarddavies6597
    @richarddavies65973 жыл бұрын

    Amazing video as always Mr Lord X. I play my dreamcast often still, but haven't had a Saturn in a few years. Oh and only a small thing, at about 12 mins in you spelt the game as motal kombat at the bottom. Im not fussed, but in case it bothers you.

  • @ElricSowrd
    @ElricSowrd3 жыл бұрын

    Dead Or Alive 2 and the Jojo's Bizarre Adventure game are the first time I've ever knew about the Franchises. And the first Soul Calibur is the first game I've knew before the sequels. I've really wanted a Dreamcast to get the game.

  • @maiqtheliar4347
    @maiqtheliar4347 Жыл бұрын

    what a great video both consoles are my favorites, started fighting on a Genesis with primal rage and never left Sega even now i still play on emulation more than any other platform combined.

  • @marcusgreene8434
    @marcusgreene84343 жыл бұрын

    Great video. You can't go wrong with either system. Both have wonderful fighting games!

  • @darthwisner47

    @darthwisner47

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's why you have to have both 👍

  • @SegaLordX

    @SegaLordX

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yup. These two machines did this genre proud.

  • @mayconwilliam600
    @mayconwilliam6003 жыл бұрын

    Amazing

  • @enriquepinero707
    @enriquepinero7073 жыл бұрын

    Yes! Finally a video that noticed and went into detail on how the Sega Saturn version of Street Fighter Zero 3 is the best version . The input was also better as well. This is the version I hoped Capcom re releases on the Switch and current platforms.

  • @TheTrueBro
    @TheTrueBro3 жыл бұрын

    Saturn SFZ3 wins over the Dreamcast version because of a very important detail: Gameplay wise it retains the feeling of the original CPS2 version. IIRC Saturn version uses the old 2D hit boxes for hit detection, while the Dreamcast uses some sort of polygon technique for this (altering all moves in some degree) and they also did some adjustments to the gameplay on purpose as some sort of "rebalancing", while the Saturn stayed close to the original.

  • @NikateeN
    @NikateeN3 жыл бұрын

    I had MKII for Saturn as a kid, and it was by far my favorite version at the time. I sadly traded it away and haven’t played that version in years but I’d like to see if it still holds up as my mind remembers it.

  • @jbmaru
    @jbmaru3 жыл бұрын

    This was very informative and entertaining with a great topic, thanks for this video. I had a bias for the Saturn due to 2D and the quantity of titles in its lifespan but would have accepted a different verdict as the DC library still is awesome.

  • @kekeke8988

    @kekeke8988

    3 жыл бұрын

    2D beast with few if any note worthy 2D games outside of arcade ports of stuff like fighting games, beat 'em ups, and shmups. Correct me if I'm wrong.

  • @HappyLight.
    @HappyLight.11 ай бұрын

    I love fighting games! I bought these 2 consoles in Japan with lots of fighting games because the Saturn has a lot of exclusives. I really like Fighters Megamix

  • @jrez8225
    @jrez82253 жыл бұрын

    Dragon Ball Z - Shin Butouden is very underrated, in my humble opinion, and should've gotten a mention. But, amazing vid bro. I got my eye on some of those "oddbalss" now. Thanks for the education! 😎👍

  • @jedstuhr
    @jedstuhr3 жыл бұрын

    Man, I LITERALLY very recently just showed my co-worker the VAST majority of fighting games on both the Saturn and Dreamcast (and yup, I DO love me my Saturn (and it's Japanese imports)) . But dang, this is QUITE the list I never even knew of... I have obscure titles like Asuka 120%, Astra Superstars, and DXhird, but there are just some titles I've never heard of like Sasaki and Sokko Seitokai!... I NEEEEEED this entire list of fighting games!!!

  • @robertdanker6193
    @robertdanker61933 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video!!! As a fighting game fan it is not suprise that I owned both. I feel you can't go wrong with either system. I know this was only a comparison of games, but I will say the Saturn controller was perfect for fighting games where as the Dreamcast controller was not. It's a small thing but worth mentioning, as one console was ready to go out of the box and the other almost required another accessory.

  • @COLOFIDUTI
    @COLOFIDUTI3 жыл бұрын

    The only sin for the dc was that horrible dpad.Saturn controller all day

  • @JohnDoe-wq5eu

    @JohnDoe-wq5eu

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's what adapters are for you know. And of course if you really want the experience you gotta get a fight stick.

  • @joemaze6452

    @joemaze6452

    3 жыл бұрын

    I actually am fond of the directional pad I'm not sure what's wrong with it. All moves come out perfect for me. I never had any issues with any Sega directional pads and I've own a Sega system since day one.

  • @n0isyturtle
    @n0isyturtle3 жыл бұрын

    DC has the better (fighter)library imo, but that Saturn controller is the bees knees for 2d fighters!

  • @britneyspearsvillarosa
    @britneyspearsvillarosa2 жыл бұрын

    Darkstalkers 3 also was released on PS1 here in the US

  • @martinromocubero4114
    @martinromocubero41143 жыл бұрын

    Just as an interesting fact... the Dreamcast can move the Neo·Geo CD very nice (Neo4All CD emulator). Almost all KOF from 94 to 99 works flawless, Kabuki Klash, Samurai Shodown III and IV, Double Dragon, Breakers, Waku Waku 7, Last Blade, Real Bout Special, Real Bout 2... just to mention some of them. Dreamcast is the definitive 2D Fighting machine :-)

  • @jamesnewman4351
    @jamesnewman43513 жыл бұрын

    I have had both machines since they came out . You just cannot compare 32 to 128 bit , but they both have a very special place in my heart!

  • @zackschilling4376
    @zackschilling43763 жыл бұрын

    That Heavy Metal Geomancer looks really cool. I missed out a lot on the DC as mine was held hostage by an angry ex.

  • @urbanmidnight1
    @urbanmidnight13 жыл бұрын

    Great video! The Saturn is the best for me, just for the controller alone. I hated trying to play fighters with the DC controller.

  • @techtr0nix688
    @techtr0nix6883 жыл бұрын

    Cool video

  • @cheeseynz
    @cheeseynz3 жыл бұрын

    Loved both consoles for the capcom fighters. It's pretty much what I played exclusively for the lifetime of each console. Hori fighting stick SS and Agetec green goblin were my sticks that I used back in the day.

  • @SupremeEspio
    @SupremeEspio3 жыл бұрын

    Saturn-Quantity Dreamcast-Quality

  • @str8duval

    @str8duval

    3 жыл бұрын

    both gad quality

  • @andrejones5441
    @andrejones54413 жыл бұрын

    ... The DC version of Alpha/Zero 3 had Reverse Dramatic Battle too and was also 3 players.

  • @SegaLordX

    @SegaLordX

    3 жыл бұрын

    The DC only has a multiplayer variant of the reverse dramatic battle. You cannot play it against the CPU. There must be 3 players and 3 controllers present.

  • @fuckin_uuuh9944
    @fuckin_uuuh99443 жыл бұрын

    Guilty gear x was literally the last game i expected you to put in that category. That game is an fgc classic

  • @starheart6163
    @starheart61633 жыл бұрын

    Now I wish I had Sega when I was growing up, I had all Nintendo and the first couple of PlayStations 1&2 and an Atari 7800. I regret not owning any Sega machine unfortunately now! Thank you for this terrific video! 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @rustymixer2886

    @rustymixer2886

    3 жыл бұрын

    Atari 7800 was my first VG system played 2600 games and ninja golf !

  • @starheart6163

    @starheart6163

    3 жыл бұрын

    Trip down memory lane for sure! Thanks for the reply Mac Gyver appreciate it!

  • @rustymixer2886

    @rustymixer2886

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@starheart6163 indeed ;)

  • @sobesons
    @sobesons3 жыл бұрын

    Great!

  • @thetickingman
    @thetickingman3 жыл бұрын

    Saturn for 2D, DC for 3D imo. Saturn controller was better for 2D fighters as well.

  • @riskvideos
    @riskvideos3 жыл бұрын

    We were blessed with capcom's involvement in Sega hardware.

  • @jaymzx2587
    @jaymzx25873 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this video! I was always wondering whether the Saturn was better than the Dreamcast, in certain fighters or other games. Especially since the Saturn is always praised for its 2D capabilities

  • @davidste60

    @davidste60

    3 жыл бұрын

    In terms of graphics, later generations are better for 2D games as well as 3D games. Saturn 2D was praised in comparison to PS1, and even then it really depends on which game.

  • @TheTom42781
    @TheTom427813 жыл бұрын

    Marvel superhero for Sega Saturn can use the one the 1mb ram card to fix the slow down and add more animation, action replay plus works as well and this works on us release and Japanese release

  • @SMASHINGblargharghar
    @SMASHINGblargharghar3 жыл бұрын

    While I prefer the Dreamcast because of it's unique 3D offerings + Capcom vs SNK & SF3, the strengths of the Saturn cannot be invalidated. Great comparison video, I really enjoyed this and will use it for reference for games that I'd like to return to.

  • @rednerdnecktech2474
    @rednerdnecktech24743 жыл бұрын

    Last Bronx is an underrated game.

  • @BLKBRDSR71
    @BLKBRDSR713 жыл бұрын

    4:38 "THE LEGEND WILL NEVER DIE".

  • @dazrael5658
    @dazrael56583 жыл бұрын

    Anyone know what game the music was from in the 3D game section?

  • @krunkcleanup2949
    @krunkcleanup29492 жыл бұрын

    I had both systems, and for me the biggest difference was the Dreamcast having good joysticks available upon release. I immediately bought 2 of them so my brothers and friends could all play too. I could never find a good joystick for Saturn at any of the stores around me, which was really frustrating! And as an Arcade rat, that's how I was used to playing so I absolutely needed one. As far as library is concerned, I'd say it's a tie as well - but I really wish I could have played Vampire Savior with a proper stick, that game really needed one.

  • @rossoreilly05
    @rossoreilly053 жыл бұрын

    Gotta be DC imo. Soul Calibur, Capcom Vs SNK 2, Guilty Gear X, Marvel Vs Capcom 2, DOA2, SF3 and the almighty Power Stone blew anything the Saturn had out of the water.