संवाद # 190: Nuclear Scientist explains how License Raj is killing India's nuclear energy sector
Nitendra SINGH is a nuclear engineer with expertise in nuclear safety and design working at ITER organization as a Project Associate responsible for the safety assessment of Tritium Breeding Blanket Systems (TBBS). He holds a Doctorate in Nuclear Engineering from Homi Bhabha National Institute (HBNI), India; a Master in Nuclear Engineering from Université Paris Sud-XI (now, Paris-Saclay), France and a Master of Technology in Nuclear Science and Technology from the University of Delhi, India. He has management diplomas in Nuclear Energy Management from IAEA, Austria, and in Nuclear Knowledge Management from the Moscow Engineering Physics Institute (MEPhI), Russia.
His technical expertise includes Nuclear Severe Accident Management, Nuclear Safety Design and Passive Systems, Tritium Breeding Blanket Systems, and Advanced Nuclear Reactor Core Design. He has authored several publications in severe accident safety design, and fast breeder reactor core design
His book “Basic Concepts Behind Fast Breeder Reactor Core Design” sets an example for advanced second stage of the India’s three stage Nuclear Program. He is the only scientist in the country who has performed the hands-on experimental program on melt-water interaction towards the design of indigenous core catcher. The innovative severe accident safety system is key to address Fukushima kind of scenarios.
His design study on long-life core fuel pin design for the Indian fast breeder reactor using internal breeding gain concept, set up a basis for long-term utilisation of reactor core. This concept will be backbone of “Sookshma”.
In addition, he is an avid speaker on advanced nuclear systems, fusion technology, nuclear and fusion policy, and climate change actions. He is the founder of the Indian Youth Nuclear Society (IYNS) and the Women in Nuclear in India association (WiN-India) and co-founded the Women in Fusion (WiF) international organization, Nuclear4Climate initiative, and InFusEd (International Fusion Energy Education) initiatives at ITER. Furthermore, he is the founder and CEO of “IYNS: Tech-Solutions” and working towards design of India’s First Micro Reactor “SUK-M (Sookshma)”.
0:00 Intro
1:03 India’s nuclear policy status today
6:28 India needs 1000 nuclear reactors?
13:09 Problem with Solar energy
15:42 Nuclear reactors isn’t expensive
17:22 Biggest myth about Nuclear Waste
23:17 Learn from France, not Germany
27:43 Why Nuclear is critical for ‘Make In India’
29:09 Myth - Nuclear isn’t SAFE
36:38 Four big reasons for India’s nuclear failure
43:11 License Permit Quota Raj in India’s nuclear space
45:17 Role of PMO
47:49 Even UAE is doing better than India
49:22 New modern nuclear reactors - where is India?
53:05 Cost of nuclear reactors & case for private sector
57:22 The root of problem in India’s nuclear sector
1:00:10 Fusion technology - India is lagging behind?
1:01:30 Fusion Vs Fission nuclear energy explained
1:07:02 India’s brain drain & Nuclear sector
1:11:23 India’s own micro nuclear reactor when?
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NGO gang par koi question nahi puchha. Biggest issue is NGO gang.
@yushpi
17 күн бұрын
Thorium pe bhi puchna reh gaye
@vaibhavyadav9912
16 күн бұрын
Sabse pehle call it out for what it really is. NGO gang ❌ Xtian gang ✅
@Clairee17-
7 күн бұрын
Seriously I am so annoyed by those fear mongers
@Dinesh-bc2ly
Күн бұрын
we not build nuclear for that reason
Another correction India is not currently building any 220 MW reactor, India is now building 700MW 2 reactors running Kakrapar
@PumbaSuR6518
16 күн бұрын
KAPP 3&4 (2X700 MW) are located at Kakrapar in Surat district of Gujarat, adjacent to the existing reactors KAPS 1&2 (2X220 MW).
@PumbaSuR6518
16 күн бұрын
KAPP-4 is the second in the series of sixteen indigenous Pressurised Heavy Water Reactors (PHWR) of 700 MW each being set up in the country
every time it surprises me...topics taken by vaad hats off....far far better than any other podcasts in india
@satishsaty
17 күн бұрын
Sure, it's superb to listen
@veerswami7175
17 күн бұрын
And also charvaka podcast
@chandansarma0
17 күн бұрын
Bhakti utar gaya iski😂😂
@MOHIT836
17 күн бұрын
Bhai saree dukan ka overhyped owner hai woh😂@@veerswami7175
@mahinderkumar1013
13 күн бұрын
Arre wah ji wah.Just keep your mind open😂 and then you will find far better topics and experts on other you tube channels.😅
Bhai sahaab.....kya gajab topic aur kitna important topic has been chosen for podcast. Salute and respect to you man. 😮😮
Vaad is the best nationalistic podcast of all. No jingoism ,no rhetorics ,only real issues.Thank you arihant bhai. Hope someone in the government is listening
You cover all important issues India is dealing with. A proper intellectual, a proper thinker. This is the most important channel for people of care about the future of the people of this nation.
Kudos Arihant bhai, Doing wonders and Going places. Just 1 regret, please don't free pass to your guest, thoda cross question kiya karo bus.
Thanks to Dr. Nitendra Singh pushing the limits for Nuclear in India. Well informative interview 🙏
What a fantastic pod! In a world of noisy, low quality content it always makes me happy to come across quality and meaningful podcasts. And a special shout-out to Dr. Nitendra for covering the topic in depth and in a manner EVERYONE could understand. Thank you.
Good Clear discussion. 1. Thorium as a fuel was not discussed 2. Plutonium Fast Breeder reactors were not discussed 3. Sea water cooling is probably mandatory ,,,That was not discussed 4. Is investment capital an issue. Perhaps Nuclear is 3X cost per installed MW capacity vs Coal Fired Power Plants. ++++++++++++++++ Isnt Kudankulam 1000 mw each , 2 working , 2 in construction why harp on 220 MW units.
@ganeshdore
17 күн бұрын
Agree 100 percent 1. Thorium as a fuel was not discussed 2. Plutonium Fast Breeder reactors were not discussed 3. Sea water cooling is probably mandatory ,,,That was not discussed 4. Is investment capital an issue. Perhaps Nuclear is 3X cost per installed MW capacity vs Coal Fired Power Plants ++++++++++++++++++++ Isnt Kudankulam 1000 mw each , 2 working , 2 in construction why harp on 220 MW units.
Bhai yeh aadmi jitna simplify karke bol raha hain utna simplei nahi hain. India plants isliye nahi laga raha hain kyonki supply of uranium is very less. India ka 3 stage nuclear programme hain jo thorium ka use karega. Isme geopolitics bhi involve hain. India mein uranium kaafi kam hain hame cannada yeh west par kaafi dependent hona padega aise hein oil ke dependency kaafi zyada hain . Abhi hum 2nd stage complete karenge. He is talking most nonsensical thing
Two things were not touched... 1. Present geopolitical scenario stops supplying fuel grade uranium to India 2. The hypocrisy of NGOs and organisations who advocate for green energy and environment but try their best to stop nuclear power plant project
There are around 20 reactors under various stages of construction and pre commissioning activities in Bharat. This is second only to China. Government is doing work on nuclear. More work is being done now than last 70 years. Two main issues for slow pace which the scientist failed to mention are: Technical: It's not just about building reactors. Indian Nuclear Energy needs a whole pipeline, from fuel and heavy water fabrication facilities to de titration and storage facilites. Work is under progress on this whole chain. Non-technical: Andolanjeevi It won't even take a small nuclear accident for the whole china funded andolanjevi gang to shut down our whole nuclear program. We have seen what they can do in farmer law protest. So the government needs to go slow and steady without making much noise. And this factor is the biggest, these andolan jeevi are shutting down Europe's nuclear power plants based on 40 yr old Chernobyl disaster. Even Japan is going reverse gear in nuclear after fukushima, and USA just talks on SMR and stuff. He is praising France and US, But the reality is that whole west has no replacement plan for the hundreds of reactors that were build in 70s and 80s, which will retire within a decade. US built only 2 & France built ZERO new nuclear reactors in last 25 years. He also mentioned private sector. The government opened nuclear to private sector for medical and agricultural application years back. And NPCIL collaborates with private players like L&T and Tata for reactor construction. This PPP mode is better because we can see that pure private players like GE, Westing House, Toshiba & Mitsubishi are failing in nuclear sector. If we see in comparison to rest of the world, Bharat is doing great. We are developing our whole technology chain and building reactors on our own.
@nileshmore90
8 күн бұрын
Thanks for the useful information brother just need some govt websites,links,any documents to check this progress
@user-eq2hm5pp7v
8 күн бұрын
@@nileshmore90 You can check the projects section of NPCIL website.
@ankitpoddar
8 күн бұрын
Any good paper you can refer too on this and more than one is welcome... Side note podcasts are great vut in technical things either self research or counter point of view is absolutely needs to conveyed...
Topics taken by this channel are always in the interest of the country and citizens ......
It’s crazy expensive. Salal dam was constructed at a cost of 929 crores and its output is 690 MW which is Rs. 1.34 crore/MW. That means constructing a nuclear power plant is almost 13 times more expensive than hydropower plants.
@hrushikeshavachat900
6 күн бұрын
It works for 60 to 80 years. So, over the lifetime if it is cheaper. We need to find ways to reduce the cost of finance of the high initial cost. Once, the same is achieved, it will be a huge achievement. Also, of the investment, a large chunk was raised through debt. So, the cost of the project should be spread over the tenure of the loan. So, if we have taken a loan 696 crores (around 75% of project cost) at 15 percent interest, for 20 years, the total outflow per year is 9.16 crore and initial in pocket expense of Rs 233 Crores which can also be spread over 20 years (80 years life, so 20 years is completely logical). So out of pocket cost of 11.65 crores. So, the cost is around 21.46 crores per year. This means a cost of around Rs 0.32 per watt for 20 years except maintainence cost. I have considered the highest rate of interest at 15 percent and tenure of loan of only around 20 years. If we consider around 9 percent interest (possible for government to raise funds at 9 percent) it will be even lower. This can be further reduced if we consider a tenure 9f 80 years, the put of pocket cost will further drop to 2.92 crores, total cost of loan at 9 percent and 20 years loan will be 6.26 crores. Total cost will be 9.18 crore per year, per watt cost of 0.14 per watt.
I thank Vaad for making such informative podcasts. I really enjoy watching them and actually gaining insights. Keep up the good work!!
He is not formal staff in ITER . He is just associate and formally such policies are decided by Department of Atomic Energy, Govt. of India .
Respectfully, Dr. Nitendra Singh should have emphasised more on our lack of domestic nuclear reserves and non-membership in the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG) severely restrict our nuclear supply. Ch*na blocked our NSG membership bid to slowdown our progress as they don't want another competing manufacturing power. Consequently, all our nuclear reactors operate below capacity, and even if we increase their number, we won't be able to fuel them adequately unless we get the NSG membership. The only remaining option is to fast-track our three-stage nuclear program, which eliminates the need to import uranium. In the third stage, fissile uranium is produced from thorium reactions, enabling us to fuel our nuclear plants making the process self sustaining.
@ganeshdore
17 күн бұрын
Agree 100 percent 1. Thorium as a fuel was not discussed 2. Plutonium Fast Breeder reactors were not discussed 3. Sea water cooling is probably mandatory ,,,That was not discussed 4. Is investment capital an issue. Perhaps Nuclear is 3X cost per installed MW capacity vs Coal Fired Power Plants ++++++++++++++++++++ Isnt Kudankulam 1000 mw each , 2 working , 2 in construction why harp on 220 MW units.
@gurdeepsingh1403
17 күн бұрын
As I can assume there no fast track.. it' will take it's time...
@ganeshdore
15 күн бұрын
@@gurdeepsingh1403 Currently 10000 MW Nuclear power is installed with 75 percent availability I think 8000 MW in new plants is coming on line in next 4 years ? Local opposition to Nuclear Power is a huge headache. What does Gurdeep Singh recommend ? Nation did manage to deal with Summer heat this year and meet record power demand. Could have been wayyyyy worse,
@ganeshdore
15 күн бұрын
Manoj Singh reply has clarity . ll I would add is Sea water cooling . No Fresh water . Take the transmission grid loss as " cost of doing business "
@gurdeepsingh1403
15 күн бұрын
Yes you may right 👍👍👍👍👍
Wow such a smart person with so much clarity! would like to see him again.
Very informative.... thanks Vaad🙏🚩🇮🇳
Excellent topic and highly experienced person cleared all doubts
India has rich reserves of Thorium. But due to eagle eye of China and US we are going slow. Once we start Thorium based efficient nuclear reactors with a bang, we have to face other consequences from the super powers
Costs. Delays in construction of plants. Nuclear + renewables are the answer. Most of the power demand is in during the day in India. Hybrid of solar, nuclear, wind almost eliminates need for huge batteries (almost). Ground source cooling & stopping copying glass building designs from abroad will keep energy demand reasonable and availability high for productive use of energy.
Very good podcast. Kudos to Dr Singh ji for providing these details as well as mentioning all the initiatives he and his team is taking in India 🙏🏼
बहुत खूब...
Why this kind of discussions are not being made in national media.
देश और दुनिया को परमाणु ऊर्जा की बहुत आवश्यकता है। देश वाशियो को भी इसका महत्व समझा होगा ।
Vaad is an amazing podcast, tries to look into the future. Constructively critical. I have a question to the guest (if he can see) 1) Why is our nuclear lobby not pushing for it (I am assuming we don't have a strong lobby) 2) small modular reactors- Can we develop it individually?
@priyanshsinghal37
16 күн бұрын
We are making good progess on nuclear. We don't need a lobby for this. SMRs are nice for talk, but developing a cost effective, safe & indigenous SMR is hard
Very important video. Thanks for bringing this up.
Glad that I have got the chance to meet him in person. Proud of his success
Good choice of Guest. Keep it up Bro!
थोरियम आधारित न्यूक्लियर रिएक्टर डिस्कस नही किया आपने। थोरियम भारत के पास काफी है। इसमें शायद इंडिया कुछ कर रहा है।
@user-fp5nb5pr1i
16 күн бұрын
indian nuclear 3rd Stage mai hai nuclear power plan
@Yuvi_p
6 күн бұрын
Breeder reactor wahi h 👍🏻
VAAD prodcasting is based on ground reality Indian govt should also watch this channel for the reality of ground situation.Vaad is doing excellent work.
Brilliant podcast. Thanks to both of you 👌🏽😊🇮🇳
Great to see such videos on your channel
Bahot badhiya Podcast Arihantji Jai Hind 🙏🏻
Private industry want to contribute in nuclear energy but when it comes to insurance part they aren't ready. If this issue resolved they we can achieve any target in record time.
ARIHANT Bhai, aapke Gyaan ko pranaam hai.
Really eyeopener from Dr. Nitendra for creating an awareness on climate change challenges and addressing clean energy. I believe Nuclear program need to expand as quickly as possible. Request government to find out way out for nation energy security. All best Dr. Nitendra and team I with your ideas.
Hii team vaad Twitted this podcast to pmo let's see what happened. ❤ for topic 👍🙏
Appreciate vaad for taking Unthinkable topics
The editing in this video is on point! 🎬✂️
Very informative discussion.
Wow...he is our protector
Amazing session ❤
Structure of DAE needs to be reviewed
Very important topic.. thank you Arihant for doing this podcast
Nice discussion, informative
It's so good to see U Sir. Regards.
भाई देखने में इतने साधारण लगते हो परंतु ऐसे असाधारण विचारों पर चर्चा कैसे कर लेते हो 🔥🙏💐
Nuclear energy is clean energy, kurzgesagt has made a great video on busting myths around nuclear energy.
You missed the NGOs which are opposing this with the help of local farmers
Wonderful conversation It is high time to switch over to Nuclear energy.
Very nice topic picked by VAAD TEAM
Sir, I loved your podcast and guests are coming. Please use more shorts to attract new viewer and traffic. I think it will improve our community.
Very knowledgeable podcast
Informative
good discussion
Main problem hai ki uranium (fuel) kahan se aayega??
@ayushgarg7033
17 күн бұрын
Ha bt itna difficult bhi nhi h
@rverma5125
17 күн бұрын
@@ayushgarg7033 Jo bhi uranium Mila hai uska bomb banana hai, Bijli banana secondary priority hai, I think government bhi yahi sochti hai, Bijli to koyla se ban hi jayegi lekin koyla se bomb nahin banega. Aur global warming ki aisi taisi
@rscsingh7848
11 күн бұрын
Jamshedpur se. Baaki huge shortfall will be covered by Thorium. 2 out of 3 phases of Fast Breeder reactors are complete. 😊😊😊
Very nice guest.
We need at least 100GW Nuclear power by 2047 .
After listening to you sir, only one thing screaming in mind...is desh mein kuch nahi hoyega...
@rohankapil1730
17 күн бұрын
😂
@akarshpandey2560
16 күн бұрын
Yeh soch ke sath kuch bhi nhi hoga
@yadav-r
16 күн бұрын
Exactly. Indians are not ready to accept this, but bro, just look at us. 2100 m bhi India developing nation rahega. painful but truth.
@priyanshsinghal37
16 күн бұрын
Modi ke 15 saal mei, Desh mei nuclear mei itna kaam ho rha hai jitna pichle 70 saalo mei nahi hua.
How the supply side of uranium ensured especially processed uranium. Uranium process, raw materials is complicated and assured supply which we depend on other countries. How india going to manage even we faced trouble for BARC, Tarapur and other plants.
Very Good Podcast ..
Need more awareness on topic like these.
No babudom in this sector. Chairman of DAE is secretary to GOI reporting directly to PM via incharge minister.
Sir, India has now shifted to 700 MW reactors from 220 MW. So, if we have 4 reactors at one place, we will have around 2.8 GW of electricity from a single location. It's still less than 1000 MW reactor but better than 220 MW.
Super bro sooo interesting and i awakening podcast
Hv u developed 1000mw designed?
your camera quality is awsome
What is costing of nuclear power electricity??
Vaad is way ahead of other podcast ❤
Everytime VAAD comes with a totally new idea for development and vision
58:40 Problem is people are not "walking the talk". Lack of Leadership to take decisions and execute is the problem.
India is ranked 159 out of the 180 nations considered in the 2024 press freedom index
Very good god help you
Unless some big entrepreneur or industrialist gets in the business of nuclear energy, I don't see the government putting any money or resources in it and even if they did then we have andolans n dharnas which the Govt is literally trying to avoid. I don't see the gut n intent in the govt for clean nuclear energy.
Best podcast of india
Sir How Megha Engineering type of company get Neuclear Projects Please make a video on that
KAPP 3&4 (2X700 MW) are located at Kakrapar in Surat district of Gujarat, adjacent to the existing reactors KAPS 1&2 (2X220 MW). KAPP-4 is the second in the series of sixteen indigenous Pressurised Heavy Water Reactors (PHWR) of 700 MW each being set up in the country.
Sir ji, BHARAT me NGO , activities, Sedha Supreme kotha pohanch jaate hai, Apke ak project ko hi 20 saal Late karwa denge, SAT SHREE AKAL 🙏🏽 JAI HIND 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
Good conversation but lacking these essential discussion area - (1) Radiation exposure to people working in the reactor (2) Radiation exposure due to air strike (3) Location of reactor to population considering huge population density and T&D loss.
That is why developed countries has privatised certain industries. Indians are only concerned about govt jobs because they know no one monitors efficiency there. And people in India just want to do the minimum required. Govt should start privatising such industries slowly and then only focus on governance. Let businessmen run businesses.
Kaha sa milta hai yeah information that 27 people died in chernobyl 😅
Are cities good model than villages ?
What r proliferation issues..
Wokeness to energy create nahi karti, bohot badhiya.
There lot availability of thorium then why don't go with?
Another major difference between Fission and Fusion is that Fusion is radiation free.
We are ready to pay for a bit expensive electricity provided it’s not forever and as soon as they break even, the price should be brought down plus there should be no load shedding! Even in 2024, our capital cities are having load shedding. What can be sadder than this? 😢
awesome vaad,thank you,29:00 topic relatable because america made it,in dark knight rises movie it was shown that batman made nuclear reactor for energy but movie villian bane made it nuclear bomb,american government has control of hollywood
Kundamkilam nuclear power plant should be reopened 😊😊😊😊
@user-eq2hm5pp7v
17 күн бұрын
It is working. And reactors 3-6 are under construction
Bring Ajay Shah to your podcast
Who brought this guy. Learned nothing from this fellow. He's providing information which is already in public domain and he was not backing up his claims with Data.
Why no thorium?
Jay Bharat 🙏 ❤
Thorium is option because we don’t have uranium
Yaar .. 3.3 kv ki solar system haiere ghar pe .. do balti paani lagta hai.. roj saaf nahi karna padta.. mahine me ek-do baar enough hai.. 200 sq feet space it took. It's revolutionary.. it generated 4500 units electricity last year at my home.
@paritoshsingh8905
2 күн бұрын
Ghr pr lekin on field it required more
Talk of present issues and present system than future
bhai great video but kabhi kabhi toh kuch shubh shubh bola karo...