Not having the judge out on the field is doing these groups a huge disservice.

@agedoutpodcast

25 күн бұрын

Preach. 🙏

@I.AM.ON.MY.WAY.

25 күн бұрын

When I heard they wouldn’t be using judges on the field anymore I just facepalmed, who decided that was a good idea!?!!?

@TheLilmike248

25 күн бұрын

Man this comment isn’t brought up enough! 3 drum judges all day. One on the field, one in front of the pit, and one in the box. It’s a shame what DCI has done regarding that.

@joshuden

25 күн бұрын

But benefiting front ensembles sooooo

@buckdacious

24 күн бұрын

​@@joshudenbut they always had love. The judges judged the groups so much they knew when to come to the front and go back on to the field. They're getting more love but the battery is barely getting any at all

Parent of one of the quads. :) i asked about the sticks under the stands too. Basically the equivalent of putting a piece of paper under a leg of a wobbly table. 😄 its so their drums are level.

@agedoutpodcast

24 күн бұрын

Haha nice!

@thomashelm6931

23 күн бұрын

And cymbals too?

On Vanguard's instagram, they said that they are fully without props this year (finally someone is doing it)

@agedoutpodcast

25 күн бұрын

Was only a matter of time before we came full circle lol

@gmiller598

25 күн бұрын

@@agedoutpodcast The interesting thing many people don't notice is that the members (mostly in the horn line) are carrying bags as "Vagabonds" and that is how the color guard does equipment changes.

@agedoutpodcast

25 күн бұрын

Wow that’s cool. Hadn’t noticed that yet

@skeletizer

25 күн бұрын

@gmiller598 I noticed the bags, didn't notice the equipment changes though. That's cool!

@gmiller598

25 күн бұрын

@@skeletizer I've not noticed them either but I think they use them for rifles and sabres. I know they have some stuff staged on the front sideline too

8 out of 9 snares go to UNT, and 7 of those were the PASIC winning UNT Snare ensemble this past fall. (The only non-UNT snare is the girl on the end.) Just crazy consistent technique across that line. Not sure how many of the rest of them are from UNT.

They really have the best sounding rim shots in the world. All about the technique.

@TheShahtariq

21 күн бұрын

they are almost exactly the sound of a ball being crushed out of the yard.

Best vanguard drum book since Babylon imo, these guys really are something

potential sanford right here

@agedoutpodcast

25 күн бұрын

Definitely possible

I love that Rennick keeps the unison impacts in the players’ back pocket until the last possible moment. There’s almost a symbiotic relationship between drum 4 on quads & bass 5. I love those hammered beats without “giving it all up” unnecessarily, it comes across with a totally unique quality.

As an SCV alum, I'm biased...but jeez. Wow. I always see them this time of the year (there were 2 shows at this venue--Walnut, CA--I caught the 2nd one), and I don't remember them ever being this clean. (Apple to apples--I'm talking about warm ups, not on the field.) I think the snares and tenors are one of, if not THE best that Rennick has had at SCV. Especially the tenor line. I have the same concern about them peaking too soon. I also worry that they're ranked 8th in DCI right now, and the overall corps won't rank high enough for them to win drums (if that doesn't improve). But still--I'd rather have them playing this well than not :) Thanks guys! P.S. FYI--Paul and Sandy Rennick were both inducted into the SCV Hall Of Fame this past weekend...joining Fred Sanford and Ralph Hardimon (among other great SCV drum staff over the years).

@rspeck

20 күн бұрын

Rennick won the Sanford with Phantom in 2010 when the corps placed 6th at finals. I think they'll move up as a corps when not going on first at every show.

SCV is absolutely throwing down this year. This is one of Rennick’s most aggressive books I’ve ever heard.

@scotttesar7156

24 күн бұрын

Aggressive but still musical and I appreciate the way his tenor line isn't playing snare unison parts so much and the voicing supports one another....

love your guys' content - thank you! I was at the shows in Walnut & San Bernadino... (just off to the right by the golf carts in this one) -- SCV was straight thunder right outta the gate...every bit as good & tight as BD. SCV cyms are especially good this year! It was a heavenly opening weekend...

I took my daughter to her first DCI show at Western Corp Connection. Seeing SCV in the Lot was amazing!

Oh boy, this is going to be a wild year, not just for the Sanford, but top 3-5 Corps over all. Kudos for SCV going with no props. Marry that with Rennick's No F's Given book, this is a "We're Back" statement for the ages.

Drumline is cranking same with Front ensemble. They are being pretty smart about wanting to peak at the right time but they also have that pressure of being the Vanguard percussion force. Already they sound much better since the first show. Fun fact is how much they spend on fundamentals and tracking during subs.

Saw these guys in Clovis last Friday….DAMN , They made the temp rise from 116-degrees that day to 150-degrees. Pure Fire!!!

The question is can this line be this clean while moving as well?! The Cavaliers were DAMN CLEAN whether in the lot or on the move with show music! That’s the million dollar question leading to a Sanford this year! The Cavaliers set that standard in 2023!

@sugarfreebrownies7265

23 күн бұрын

The Cavs were not very clean on the move last year; that prelims judge tape is atrocious

@wingedpenguin1364

19 күн бұрын

@@sugarfreebrownies7265dude still trying to argue with like 20 judges in a row last year who gave cavs the highest score in percussion from dekalb to the finals night 😂😂😂

@sugarfreebrownies7265

19 күн бұрын

@@wingedpenguin1364Listen to the tape and decide for yourself. You have ears no? BAC should’ve won and it was not close.

Awesome writing and CLEAN! 🔥🔥🔥

SCV is cleaner but BD still scoring higher... gonna be a wild season

@kietey14

25 күн бұрын

I wanna say it’s because of the front ensemble, but after hearing both groups Vanguards front is just cooking ridiculously well. Maybe it’s the points of exposure are getting picked in weird spots by the judges.

@TheUpAndComingNobody

25 күн бұрын

Vanguard going on first then going before Academy and PC is really hurting their scores imo. I don’t think mandarins beats them overall if they go on b2b.

The whole line is great!

hell yeah. some thoughts: a) i really missed vanguard, so stoked they're back. this crew is playing really well, and i have them more or less neck-and-neck w BAC for the sanford (just going off batteries...havne't heard any FEs yet). b) SCV's bassline this year, i think, seems to me the weakest link (by a hair) at this point? some of those gnarlier rhythms are a bit difficult to read c) snare vis at 12:49ish is so slick--the vis of the summer for me d) that lick at 13:03ish seems like the 2nd half of a book report? e) drums look super fresh, part of me wishes the unis + hardware were evergreen.... f) sparkling water is the #powermove

I can’t believe BD drums beating scv. So crazy. On the field judging is missed

The snare bend back reminds of BD circa 1982-Float’s first year!

Dang boys! They're comin' in hot! Also, you guys are picking up some steam! Kudos to the best drumline podcast/video dudes on the interwebs! Thanks!

@agedoutpodcast

24 күн бұрын

Thank you for the support! 🙌

When a line starts the season like this it’s a foregone conclusion.

I was filming next to the quad end and when he hit his rim shot so hard and loud his stick chipped and hit my forearm!! This was at the DCI West Warm ups 😀

@RobertVee

24 күн бұрын

Also in person they are so loud, in my video editing the audio was always peaking so I had to tone it down and my ears are still a little tingley ...🤩 🤩 Wow

💙❤For The Vagabond Algorithm! ❤💙

Looking forward to more videos.

These guys are improving so fast its unreal, at drums along the rockies in the lot they were way cleaner than even this

I remember rennick talking about the drums at a UNT camp, and he said something about asking dynasty to make a 10 ply shell with a single piece of wood instead of 10 individual pieces of wood, or something like that. The drums sound really good too.

@RickCogley

24 күн бұрын

Maybe that's what was meant in their unboxing post on insta, by "stave shell". They said: "Thank you Dynasty for the most wonderful drums! Complete custom finish shells and hardware, stave shells, and custom finish carriers bring the look together. #SCV2024"

@RickCogley

24 күн бұрын

not exactly, looks like stave shells are made of vertical blocks of wood? well, they sure sound great!

Yeah no lie…this snareline IS DAMN GOOD AND CLEAN!!!

There is absolutely no risk to being clean early, and also I dont think this is even close to their ceiling. I think it’s more of a risk to be very dirty and have no musicality whatsoever like bd… except they are winning right now? Makes you question these judges and the process…

the feature is way too short, BALLS, but I want more, great job fellas!

That's some sweeeet battery hardware 🔥🔥

Not sure why they scoring so low on Drums… kinda crazy .

Saw them in the lot at dci west. Insanely clean in person. The BD book seemed a bit harder and choppier but they were dirty and the dynamics and overall feel of the BD book didn’t hold my interest like vanguards does. I hope they win drums this year!

Excited to see if y’all react to Blue Knights this year when more videos of them release

Interesting that they are consistently scoring higher in Achievement than Content. I wonder if that has anything to do with the simultaneous demand Evan mentioned?

There are just SO many good groups this season. Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems like there could easily be 5+ groups who could realistically gun for the sanford this year. Lines seem to start the season cleaner and cleaner by the year nowadays. Also it's great to see another world class cymbal line back in the fold🙏

Coolest drums in dci

Quick question...what are "PDD's"? You reference them a lot, but I'm not sure what they are! Thanks fellas!

@agedoutpodcast

16 күн бұрын

Just short hand for ParaDiddleDiddles.

For the algorithm. ✊

SCV percussion is 🔥 🔥!!!!

If the season ended today Im between SCV or Boston both are killing it and one of them would win drums

For the algorithm!

I wonder what's Paul's philosophy on not playing with a met..??? 🤔

IM GETTING 2014 VIBES

Just so ya know, bd’s snare have some pretty shocking dirt. But I think it’ll be 1. Boston or SCV 2 BD 3 Cavies

@noahivie1789

25 күн бұрын

It is still “technically” early season though. At least too soon to tell.

@Aged Out Podcast guys--- a bit of a random question but I believe you guys enjoy bourbon & rye, correct?

@agedoutpodcast

21 күн бұрын

Yes we enjoy the bourbons and the ryes.

@justgoodolme2398

21 күн бұрын

@@agedoutpodcast You guys should hook up with @DrumsandDrams for a drumline/bourbon livestream. Cam marched BD and I believe Bluecoats.

@agedoutpodcast

21 күн бұрын

Yea, Cam marched with us at Rhythm X in 2012 also. I enjoy his channel.

What do you mean when you say "vertically written"?

@agedoutpodcast

25 күн бұрын

Every subsection is playing the same thing together. Like unison across the whole battery. A bunch of paradiddles into a triplet roll figure that the quads and snares play together with the basses splitting the exact same rhythms for example.

@xxnoobxx1900

25 күн бұрын

@@agedoutpodcast ah, thank you very much!

@SS2Balls

25 күн бұрын

I was just wondering this lol

2010-2019 - 6 Sanford trophies :) let Rennick cook.

@agedoutpodcast

25 күн бұрын

🧑‍🍳

For the Algorithm 👊🏻

What the heck is a PDD roll?

@ColtonBean

25 күн бұрын

Paradiddle-diddle that goes straight into a double stroke roll ◡̈

I will be shocked if they do not win - I think it is no contest, honestly

Better than 2006 phantom?…

@agedoutpodcast

25 күн бұрын

Nah, we ain’t in that conversation lol.

16:40 dude, the battery is doing more body in this show, than scv has probably ever done

@agedoutpodcast

25 күн бұрын

Idk, I just watched again, and unless I’m just missing it, I don’t find much. Especially in the feature moments, which could be an additional factor for the judges. Maybe not though, not in their shoes.

@george9065

25 күн бұрын

@@agedoutpodcast i suppose it's more apparent on the more recent videos

Great show, fellas! Quick question.....do you think DCI will LET Vanguard win High Drums this year? I almost wonder if they'll be slotted in 2nd place since they didn't march last year. I feel like it's BD's "turn" to win it......but I'm afraid Vanguard is muuuuuuch better! And, once again, Thanks for breaking down the music for me!!!! I absolutely LOVE watching and listening....but my goodness they're throwin' down some notes! Continued success fellas!

@agedoutpodcast

19 күн бұрын

I truly don’t believe that judges will base a groups current status off of what they may or may not have accomplished previously. If vanguard percussion is good enough to win, they’ll win. I think that was proven last year with Cavies and with Phantom in 2010. Can it be harder if the overall corps is less successful? Definitely. But that’s also part of game.

First

Meh

All the body movement is repetitive, ridiculous and is well played out. That ship sailed a long time ago. I wish all the corps would agree to leave all that body stuff out. It adds little to nothing. Paul has it right - don't do it