Sandy Munro Dishes on 4680, Cybertruck, & the Competition

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  • @michaelgirard5984
    @michaelgirard598424 күн бұрын

    That was refreshingly concise. Thank you both!

  • @williamgrunzweig571
    @williamgrunzweig57124 күн бұрын

    Nice interview. Ty Sandy. It's pretty neat to see how Tesla is developing new battery technology and other manufacturers are also developing new form factors. I'm just guessing, it feels like Tesla is the whole reason so much RnD is being done towards energy storage and mediums. The rate of development is very promising.

  • @jdcarguy1242
    @jdcarguy124224 күн бұрын

    Keep up the short and sweet promos. Sandy is always great content!

  • @commuterbranchline8132
    @commuterbranchline813224 күн бұрын

    A great guest and episode, well done Brian!

  • @mrmawson2438
    @mrmawson243824 күн бұрын

    Sandy is a good guy

  • @vincentdeleonjr1039
    @vincentdeleonjr103924 күн бұрын

    thank you both

  • @JosephWolfgram
    @JosephWolfgram22 күн бұрын

    Good job on this interview with Sandy... Great questions, and you actually stopped to LISTEN to his answers without interrupting him! Nicely done.

  • @loucatozzi7656
    @loucatozzi765624 күн бұрын

    "Sandy, I appreciate you coming on and sharing ALL that you know..." Now that would be an interesting, but very long, video. 😃

  • @Radio_FM_3123
    @Radio_FM_312324 күн бұрын

    The voltage of a battery depends on the chemistry of the battery itself, in other words, it depends on the pair of anode and cathode materials.

  • @greggrant4614
    @greggrant461423 күн бұрын

    Thanks for Sandy's review of the Sakuu battery. Need many more details, like regarding the internal resistance, as well as thermal management, energy density and cyclelife vs. C-rate of discharge/charge and temperature.

  • @FutureAZA

    @FutureAZA

    23 күн бұрын

    Not sure how much of that info will be published. They spend a fortune creating those engineering reports.

  • @BTSflyer
    @BTSflyer24 күн бұрын

    Sakuu does a dry process too with its batteries.

  • @edwardhackett-jones8126
    @edwardhackett-jones812624 күн бұрын

    Sandy’s always astoundingly good value!

  • @anibalaguilarperez29
    @anibalaguilarperez2924 күн бұрын

    VERY good explanation!!! ✨

  • @YouTube_can_ESAD

    @YouTube_can_ESAD

    23 күн бұрын

    Wait, is t Sandy Munro the clown that raved about the CyberTruck? Dude, it’s a total piece of crap vehicle… Zero respect for Sandy, none.

  • @davidr3246
    @davidr324624 күн бұрын

    Great episode.

  • @highlanderapparel
    @highlanderapparel24 күн бұрын

    Awesome interview Brian, the Highlander😊

  • @pangert1
    @pangert124 күн бұрын

    Sandy, my AAA 1200 MAH batteries have the same voltage as my D Cell batteries 10,000 MAH. Voltage is the same, but not the power! 😅 Though you should know! 😅

  • @JeffWusch
    @JeffWusch24 күн бұрын

    So if it is roll to roll manufacturing, the sakuu battery is revolutionary. But cost to manufacture is always the kicker in new tech

  • @rogerstarkey5390

    @rogerstarkey5390

    24 күн бұрын

    I wondered (out loud, on line) years ago... "What if you could Photocopy a battery electrode?" . This MIGHT be it. . (And yes, I do know a little on the subject)

  • @josephgallagher1440
    @josephgallagher144023 күн бұрын

    Oh yea this is a game changer! I saw Sandy’s other more detailed video on the Sakuu battery and it’s amazing! This also provides better recycling functionality.

  • @mrmawson2438
    @mrmawson243824 күн бұрын

    Cheers guys

  • @Techridr
    @Techridr24 күн бұрын

    I was hoping Sandy had a thought on Tesla moving to 48 volts on more vehicles. < Speaking of weight savings. I think the "Juniper" Y might be a good opportunity for 48v and drive by wire, but I have a feeling Tesla is so busy with so many other projects that the next Y will likely be only refreshed as much as the "Highland" 3. I also understand that the price point is as important as anything for the Y, but they do have to sell in a more competitive market in 2025 and beyond so I'd expect even more than the 3 "refresh" gave us.

  • @andrewsaint6581

    @andrewsaint6581

    23 күн бұрын

    They're working on it. Everything out of Tesla wil be 48v from now on. They published and spammed every other car maker with their "How to do 48v" pdf. Jim Farley confirmed Ford got theirs. This is to make the supply chain grow fast enough. Imo Tesla and the Chinese will be there first. Kind of as usual, then.

  • @Techridr

    @Techridr

    23 күн бұрын

    ​@@andrewsaint6581 I just don't think so. Until there is a new platform, current refresh vehicles like Model Y "Juniper" will likely not change yet. Look at the "Highland" Model 3. I hoped 48v would happen there, but on a refresh, it likely doesn't make economic sense, so 14.8v remains as it will with the Y. Yeah, the 48v PDF that went to other OEMS happened last year. None of them will make the change anytime soon. Look at Rivian. They just announced a lot of great changes but they're still on 12v. It's going to take time

  • @LJ-jq8og
    @LJ-jq8og23 күн бұрын

    GREAT VIDEO💪❤

  • @garyrooksby
    @garyrooksby24 күн бұрын

    We love both Sandy and Brian

  • @howardholt3530
    @howardholt353024 күн бұрын

    Buffalo sandy knows a whole lot of stuff!

  • @Dularr
    @Dularr24 күн бұрын

    Make a Cybertruck that limits towing to 6,000 pounds.

  • @4literv6

    @4literv6

    23 күн бұрын

    Has tesla said what the upcoming single motor rwd with 250+miles for 60k in 2025 will be limited to towing? Most of my rwd f-150 xl work trucks are only rated to tow 5,000-7,500#

  • @johnfrancis4401
    @johnfrancis440124 күн бұрын

    Great stuff.

  • @mikesevgarage
    @mikesevgarage23 күн бұрын

    Great questions and very interesting answers. Great video!

  • @FutureAZA

    @FutureAZA

    23 күн бұрын

    You've seen first hand the kind of time I dedicate to prep. Glad it shows in the finished product.

  • @user-xj5xp6qz5g
    @user-xj5xp6qz5g24 күн бұрын

    all the benefits Sandy stated about that new batt sound too good to be true. I'll believe it when I see it

  • @chrisbraid2907

    @chrisbraid2907

    24 күн бұрын

    It’s still in process so we wait and see …

  • @ConnectingODots

    @ConnectingODots

    24 күн бұрын

    I do believe it, just that prototypes are easy, production is hard

  • @budgetaudiophilelife-long5461
    @budgetaudiophilelife-long546124 күн бұрын

    🙋‍♂️THANKS BRIAN FOR FINALLY SHARING THIS ONE ☝️ AND WE ALREADY WATCHED SANDY’s TOUR 🤯💚💚💚

  • @rogerstarkey5390

    @rogerstarkey5390

    24 күн бұрын

    SOME of us already watched the tour. Its quite obvious some didn't (and maybe won't)

  • @highlanderapparel
    @highlanderapparel24 күн бұрын

    Brian, if you want to do a deep dive on this, you can check out the Budd wheel company out of Detroit well out of Philadelphia. I was a non-degree engineer at Budd wheel for years and we invented the gluing metal parts together and we gave away everything to the big three and others just to get their contracts, if you ever have the time just start looking in the Budd wheel, you’d be amazed, your buddy the Highlander😊

  • @jdcarguy1242
    @jdcarguy124224 күн бұрын

    What does Sandy think the CT will cost to manufacture at full scale?

  • @MrQuay03

    @MrQuay03

    24 күн бұрын

    Buy his analysis book.

  • @Dularr

    @Dularr

    24 күн бұрын

    Bingo, that is where Sandy makes his money. Cost and supply of the Cybertruck.

  • @pathfollower
    @pathfollower24 күн бұрын

    Elon has stated they can use any kind of battery in their cars. Perhaps they could buy or license the tech of this new battery. I just wish they had access to the new CATL batteries in early testing and production.

  • @rogerstarkey5390

    @rogerstarkey5390

    24 күн бұрын

    Since Tesla is their largest customer CATL probably "looks after" Tesla as a ("THE"?) "trusted customer"? (Especially after the "pulling back" debacle)

  • @JRlabeaux

    @JRlabeaux

    24 күн бұрын

    All depends on cost per kw. CATL new batteries have promising specs, however I haven’t heard anything on costs.

  • @andrewsaint6581
    @andrewsaint658124 күн бұрын

    Brian. You've made it! The crapto spambots have discovered your page.

  • @FutureAZA

    @FutureAZA

    23 күн бұрын

    They've always been here, I just usually get them filtered out

  • @marinonacci1816
    @marinonacci181617 күн бұрын

    CATL has 18,000 people working in R&D, 250 of those have Phd's.

  • @FutureAZA

    @FutureAZA

    17 күн бұрын

    That's amazing.

  • @Decebal825
    @Decebal82523 күн бұрын

    wonder how long does the plastic pouch last before it degrades?

  • @FutureAZA

    @FutureAZA

    23 күн бұрын

    Will be interesting to see.

  • @Voidroamer
    @Voidroamer24 күн бұрын

    i wish you had asked about all that empty room in the pack! maybe a long range trim in the future? also im excited about those new pouch batteries, but how long to market? and in teslas?

  • @Lse380
    @Lse38023 күн бұрын

    Tesla now offera a 50 mile additional range via Software Update for model y rwd owners. (1000$)

  • @4literv6

    @4literv6

    23 күн бұрын

    With the asp up over 12% in 2024 vs 23 for tesla thanks to getting the ct ramp going well(outselling Ford's rivian&gm ev trucks already. 😀 Adding in the model Y lr rwd&m3 highland lr rwd trims with full tax credit eligibility. I bet q3&q4 are gonna be bangers for tesla. Should end 2024 at 1,900,000+evs sold maybe even 2,000,000! 👍🏻

  • @robertcessaro6201
    @robertcessaro620124 күн бұрын

    What will that square battery mean for the structural battery pack design?

  • @rogerstarkey5390

    @rogerstarkey5390

    24 күн бұрын

    The square "floppy" battery?

  • @andrewradford3953

    @andrewradford3953

    24 күн бұрын

    An armoured box like the cybertruck. Foam to lock them in place. Thermal control will be interesting through plastic.

  • @FutureAZA

    @FutureAZA

    24 күн бұрын

    Can't see it being structural.

  • @kurtmissotten5965
    @kurtmissotten596524 күн бұрын

    Hi Brain. A possible question for Sandy could be, what changes tesla would have to do to make the Cybertruck road legal in Europe. This in regards to pedestrian safety which by itself is utterly ridiculous since any tesla alarms you if you get near one. See you on X! Greetings from Belgium!

  • @rogerstarkey5390

    @rogerstarkey5390

    24 күн бұрын

    "Brian"

  • @TeslaOwnersSV
    @TeslaOwnersSV23 күн бұрын

    🤯🤯🤯

  • @rowanbroekman3929
    @rowanbroekman392924 күн бұрын

    It looks like an interesting battery, but I still haven't heard much specs. Can they mass produce it? Can they make a battery pack for for example a Tesla model 3?

  • @rogerstarkey5390

    @rogerstarkey5390

    24 күн бұрын

    Research

  • @nononsenseBennett
    @nononsenseBennett24 күн бұрын

    When I saw Sandy's video on this new battery I was so excited! It's a revolutionary change and a huge game changer. I hope Tesla adopts it.

  • @rogerstarkey5390

    @rogerstarkey5390

    24 күн бұрын

    The phrase is "Has great potential (battery pun?) to be a huge game changer"

  • @mrmawson2438
    @mrmawson243824 күн бұрын

    No big battery needed wow saku 👍

  • @cmac7384
    @cmac738424 күн бұрын

    Sakuu how many cycles does it last? We're up to 2500 to 3000 on normal batteries.

  • @rogerstarkey5390

    @rogerstarkey5390

    24 күн бұрын

    According to the report by Sandy last week, its "Chemically Agnostic" requiring a patented proprietary process to prepare the materials for use in this cell. Cycle life should be variable dependent on the chemistry.... As with other cells.

  • @4literv6

    @4literv6

    23 күн бұрын

    Sakuu showed 1,200+cycles and retaining 80-85% of the originally capacity. Check the munro live longer video from a few weeks ago! So at 200 miles of rated range they are good for 250,000+miles easily. 😎

  • @Iamthedude-is5ov
    @Iamthedude-is5ov24 күн бұрын

    The zoom in on the face is crazy.

  • @danharold3087
    @danharold308724 күн бұрын

    The Sakuu w/o metal looks impossible to cool. Is there really so little resistance?

  • @xlargetophat

    @xlargetophat

    24 күн бұрын

    Sounds like B's to me

  • @rogerstarkey5390

    @rogerstarkey5390

    24 күн бұрын

    ​@@xlargetophat You'll be an "expert" then?

  • @budgetaudiophilelife-long5461
    @budgetaudiophilelife-long546124 күн бұрын

    BRIAN,I DON’T THINK 🤔 SANDY BEGAN TO TELL YOU “all he knows “ BECAUSE HE KNOWS ALOT 😁💚💚💚

  • @edmundjakopchek9836
    @edmundjakopchek983623 күн бұрын

    Hey, AZA10 did not work, only got the 5% discount on my order😥

  • @FutureAZA

    @FutureAZA

    23 күн бұрын

    I'll message him.

  • @edwardhackett-jones8126
    @edwardhackett-jones812624 күн бұрын

    These new batteries that he’s talking about - maybe I missed it, but will they work in a structural pack?

  • @FutureAZA

    @FutureAZA

    23 күн бұрын

    I can't see how, but very few manufacturers use them yet.

  • @TheLobo91
    @TheLobo9122 күн бұрын

    Sakko chemistry seems very stable hopfully the density is better than 4680. I think tesla will just make their cells taller or hopfully switch to square lfp cells for cheaper vehicles. We need usa based LFP. Their LFP vehicles have basically the same range as their 2170 cars. We need cheaper options that qualify for thw tax credits.

  • @FutureAZA

    @FutureAZA

    22 күн бұрын

    Tesla is working on domestic LFP production. They bought equipment earlier this year for just that.

  • @ctuna2011
    @ctuna201124 күн бұрын

    Get Sandy to comment on the current state of FSD and speculated on Robotaxi maybe.

  • @rogerstarkey5390

    @rogerstarkey5390

    24 күн бұрын

    Sandy tends not to speculate too much.... It's a wise position to take.

  • @kentkjrgaardjensen4304
    @kentkjrgaardjensen430423 күн бұрын

    So will tesla keep doing 4680 or will they shift to this new tech? 🤔

  • @FutureAZA

    @FutureAZA

    23 күн бұрын

    Tesla doesn't appear to be looking at it at this time. If they're market validated they could make their way into China made models. None of those use structural packs.

  • @kentkjrgaardjensen4304

    @kentkjrgaardjensen4304

    23 күн бұрын

    @@FutureAZA ahh true. Tesla need structural packs but maybe these pouches can be made structural as well if the hard adhesive is applied

  • @mrrolandlawrence
    @mrrolandlawrence23 күн бұрын

    im just waiting for some consumer gear to use these batteries. less batteries = less fuss.

  • @mauinuts8844
    @mauinuts884424 күн бұрын

    The Sakuu pouch battery still uses Lithium no?

  • @rogerstarkey5390

    @rogerstarkey5390

    24 күн бұрын

    Your first question should be "Is there anything about this on Munro live?" If there was, you MIGHT watch that and see if there was an answer to your question.... Maybe?

  • @Ken.Howard
    @Ken.Howard21 күн бұрын

    "Disses" not "Dishes"!

  • @AbideVibe
    @AbideVibe23 күн бұрын

    Why won't Elon use Sandy's favorite battery tech?

  • @FutureAZA

    @FutureAZA

    23 күн бұрын

    It hasn't been commercialized and isn't structural.

  • @51bpm
    @51bpm9 күн бұрын

    I believe in the mission... but no longer the man

  • @FutureAZA

    @FutureAZA

    9 күн бұрын

    It's a growing concern. He's made clear he's not afraid of being hated. Would just be nice if he understood the position of power that comes with a megaphone of that caliber.

  • @mrmawson2438
    @mrmawson243824 күн бұрын

    I only have a small saku

  • @FutureAZA

    @FutureAZA

    24 күн бұрын

    I feel your pain, brother.

  • @l.p.bilham9852
    @l.p.bilham985224 күн бұрын

    cybertruck+sakuu= ?

  • @KrustyKlown
    @KrustyKlown3 күн бұрын

    Cylindrical cells NEVER made sense for vehicles. Tesla only used them because that was the only thing available when they started building cars ... making all their processes, mfg equipment, and designs dependant on cylindrical cells. Change is hard, eventually they will switch.

  • @wonderplanet343
    @wonderplanet34314 күн бұрын

    Intro guitar and “ohhs” are way too loud compared to the voice level. ❤

  • @FutureAZA

    @FutureAZA

    14 күн бұрын

    Will mention it to the editor.

  • @keithpeterson9560
    @keithpeterson956024 күн бұрын

    A few things come at me, did Sandy actually mean anodize because anodize is an anodic coating and does not typically conduct? Alodine is a chemical conversion coating and is so thin the metals still conduct which could cause a galvanic response. Second, can the new flat battery double as a structural battery pack as the 4680 cylindrical canister does (dual use)? Last, what is up with Sandy’s body language. He seems to have lost his jubilance and fanboy attitude. Did he get a Ross Gerber type smackdown from someone at Tesla? He publicly stated he thinks vision is not enough for FSD. I believe he said something about inferred heat sensors awhile back.

  • @rogerstarkey5390

    @rogerstarkey5390

    24 күн бұрын

    Have you LOOKED on Munro Live for the battery? smh

  • @dennisboyd1712
    @dennisboyd171224 күн бұрын

    BUY TESLA STOCK Now

  • @Liam-ql7tr
    @Liam-ql7tr24 күн бұрын

    What about the Tesla “graphene” battery?

  • @rogerstarkey5390

    @rogerstarkey5390

    24 күн бұрын

    Specify

  • @rogerstarkey5390
    @rogerstarkey539024 күн бұрын

    The usual list of "IMPOSSIBLE" comments from those who haven't actually LOOKED for any more information? . You can find MORE information, of ANY type, MORE easily than ever before. JUST USE THE TOOLS PROVIDED INSTEAD OF ASKING BASIC QUESTIONS OR DISMISSING SOMETHING OUT OF HAND!!? . smh²

  • @MTHDCS
    @MTHDCS23 күн бұрын

    Coming from a Detroit "engineer" that designed cars in the 70's & 80's that rusted out in a year or two and then he blamed management for the Japanese invasion that ensued!

  • @FutureAZA

    @FutureAZA

    23 күн бұрын

    Do you imagine those were things he had control over?

  • @ChristoherWGray
    @ChristoherWGray22 күн бұрын

    Sure Increase the battery capacity with magic over the air What?

  • @FutureAZA

    @FutureAZA

    22 күн бұрын

    It isn't magic. It's something Tesla has done in the past, and is currently offering on some models. They software limit the capacity for a variety of reasons, in this case potential degradation, and make a greater percentage available once it's fully tested.

  • @richardalexander5758
    @richardalexander575824 күн бұрын

    Two more normal windshield wipers would be a nice update for the CT IMO.

  • @aaronbounds1336

    @aaronbounds1336

    24 күн бұрын

    Efficiency decrease with two traditional wipers in the traditional location and orientation on the truck.

  • @richardalexander5758

    @richardalexander5758

    23 күн бұрын

    @@aaronbounds1336 Not if parked in the "up" position, just shorter.

  • @davidhuber6251
    @davidhuber625124 күн бұрын

    I hate to be pedantic. (I'm lying, I love to be pedantic. I am the Pedant's pedant.) If you google "Diss" vs "Dish" you will find that "diss" is disrespect (which is what I think you meant to say) and "dish" means to prepare and serve up. I'll show myself out.

  • @rogerstarkey5390

    @rogerstarkey5390

    24 күн бұрын

    Bowled over by your critique (😉)

  • @xlargetophat
    @xlargetophat24 күн бұрын

    But what's the caveat? Disadvantage of this battery...

  • @rogerstarkey5390

    @rogerstarkey5390

    24 күн бұрын

    Maybe research it to find out?

  • @xlargetophat

    @xlargetophat

    24 күн бұрын

    ​@@rogerstarkey5390I'm trying.. but I wish Sandy would lay into it more.

  • @xlargetophat

    @xlargetophat

    24 күн бұрын

    The new "condensed battery", is looking interesting.. from CATL

  • @philipcunio4089
    @philipcunio408924 күн бұрын

    Sandy has ozembic face. That appears to be how He lost weight.

  • @jackylsmith8138
    @jackylsmith813824 күн бұрын

    Tesla hasn’t been making batteries a long time. They have had partners that make their batteries. Tesla bought a company with the dry anode and cathode process, took the patents for it and sold the company off. Tesla itself has only made 4680’s and it’s been battery hell.

  • @FutureAZA

    @FutureAZA

    24 күн бұрын

    Yes!

  • @KTPurdy
    @KTPurdy22 күн бұрын

    Fit and finish on the cybertruck is pathetic.

  • @FutureAZA

    @FutureAZA

    22 күн бұрын

    I guess I've seen more of them than you have

  • @KTPurdy

    @KTPurdy

    21 күн бұрын

    @@FutureAZA Get closer

  • @BTSflyer
    @BTSflyer24 күн бұрын

    Sorry but, Tesla is not the end all be all in automotive tech.

  • @rogerstarkey5390

    @rogerstarkey5390

    24 күн бұрын

    And your credentials to qualify that statement are?

  • @BTSflyer

    @BTSflyer

    24 күн бұрын

    @@rogerstarkey5390 Many companies invent plenty of cutting edge tech other than Tesla, quit being a Tesla fanboy and open your eyes.

  • @FutureAZA

    @FutureAZA

    24 күн бұрын

    It's a combination of factors that give them a unique advantage.

  • @BTSflyer

    @BTSflyer

    17 күн бұрын

    @@FutureAZA That gap in advantage is closing fast. Good to see Mr. Munro recognizing that others companies have great tech too.

  • @MyUniversalUniversity
    @MyUniversalUniversity23 күн бұрын

    Love Sandy, but he is not always accurate with batteries. I doubt this battery will come out at a less expensive price than current batteries. I am not real smart on batteries, but I have seen at least 5 companies come out with breakthrough tech and nothing has come 3 to 5 years later. We will see!!

  • @FutureAZA

    @FutureAZA

    23 күн бұрын

    We've seen endless promises of a miracle battery, but they never materialize.

  • @gegwen7440
    @gegwen744024 күн бұрын

    Would any sane person spend their hard earned (?) money buying a Cybertruck well IMO no !

  • @rogerstarkey5390

    @rogerstarkey5390

    24 күн бұрын

    "Imo"... More than would buy a Lightning (just going by Q2)

  • @waynerussell6401

    @waynerussell6401

    24 күн бұрын

    2 million and counting...

  • @mattsparks5957

    @mattsparks5957

    24 күн бұрын

    I would buy one. Here are a few reasons why: 1 Elon is awesome 2 Tesla is non UAW 3 Cybertruck is most USA made. 4 Tesla is not woke 5 Cybertruck is awesome 6 People hate Cybertruck 7 Joe Biden hates Elon and Tesla 8 Ten year warranty 9 Can charge at home

  • @mini2nut67
    @mini2nut6718 күн бұрын

    Saku for the win!!!

  • @YouTube_can_ESAD
    @YouTube_can_ESAD23 күн бұрын

    Wait, isn’t Sandy Munro the gentleman that raved about the CyberTruck? Dude, it’s a total piece of crap vehicle… Zero respect for Sandy, none. I purchased a Model 3 thanks to his excited reviews but boy was it a lemon. So thankful to get out from under it… Thanks for spewing lies and pumping my Tesla stock, I funded my retirement from it, but dude is clearly compromised.

  • @FutureAZA

    @FutureAZA

    23 күн бұрын

    Back to your drawing board, my eager little friend. That damp sack of wet trash wouldn't even sell on facebook, and you're trying the routine here? Among people who actually know better? I want to give you a D-minus just so you pass the class and we don't have to deal with you again, but it's not even on the border. That was a bad, BAD comment.

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