The sad music playing while you were sharpening really tugged at the heart strings

Always enjoy your videos, glad to see your getting some more shop time again.

I use Krylon Easy Tack. It’s a spray adhesive that will stick your sandpaper to glass or granite like a post-it note. The sandpaper won’t move, there is very little residue and it is very easy to clean up.

Great video about sharpening chisels. Awesome! Greetings from Andreas on Off Grid Sweden

This is something I have always been very hesitant to try. You make it look a little more simple. Still intimidated by this. But soon... I will give it a try.

I feel your pain I live in south Louisiana with humidity levels in the 90's most of the year and I live close enough to the gulf to get that wonderful salt air. In a non air conditioned shop yea rust is inevitable but I lubricant my planes and chisels with machine oil as Paul Sellers recommends and I get very little rust. I started with the sandpaper method and still use it to flatten a new tool. I have a dmt diamond stone 1200 grit and I use a hard strop and the level of sharpness I get now is far better than what I get from sandpaper. It only cost about 60 dollars for the stone and 20 or so for the horse butt strop and green stropping compound. I know sharpening is one of those things no one agree on but that is my way of doing it. I love watching your channel and hope to see you more often.

I had a similar experience leaving mine in a storage cabinet that I thought was protection enough in an unheated garage. Now that cabinet has an electric heater/dehumidifier made for gun cabinets. Surface rust got the backs of your chisels out of flat? Man, using that belt sander on them is some tough love! Glad to see they survived and live to work again. I haven't found water stones to be that expensive. Norton sells a complete starter set including a flattening stone for less than $150 that will last several years, then you can replace one stone at a time as needed. I bought a diamond flattening stone several years ago and haven't needed it yet. And a good compact way to use, store and transport stones, water and all, is Lee Valley's stone pond, around $70. It's plastic, but I've been using it as the heart of my sharpening system for several years now.

@anthonyboudreaux3675

6 жыл бұрын

Michael Anderson I am in a similar situation I never thought about using the dehumidifier. I oil well and keep it at bay for the most part. Does it have a fan of some sort to circulate the air. My tools are housed inside drawers on my workbench and I am trying to reason how I could use it in my drawer unit.

@meanders9221

6 жыл бұрын

No fan, it just heats. I mounted it near the bottom of the cabinet and haven't been troubled by rust since (about 2 yr). For workbench and shop drawers I use inexpensive dehumidifier packets from amazon in each drawer. They have never gotten saturated but if they do you can regenerate them in the microwave.

@anthonyboudreaux3675

6 жыл бұрын

Michael Anderson thanks for the information I did do a search after I posted I figured that was the type you had used. I do have some open air space in my bench I'm going to give it a try.

@meanders9221

6 жыл бұрын

Good luck with your rust issue!

Hi Ryan, The chisels and the plane will still be very close to sharp even if there is some surface rust. As an alternative to abrading/grinding off the surface rust on your plane try placing the components in a bath of cleaning vinegar overnight. The cleaning vinegar is only a little more concentrated that cooking vinegar and it will gently dissolve the rust without being too aggressive against the rest of the metal. You may need to use a stiff nylon bristled brush to shift some of the stubborn rust spots after a few hours soaking. When you remove it from the vinegar, rinse it well in clean water then dry it with a rag and apply some light oil immediately. If you don't you can get a light coat of flash rust forming within minutes. From there you just do your usual sharpening steps . The rust formation shouldn't have caused any warping so there should be no need to re-flatten the backs of chisels or soles of planes or regrind the primary bevels. This is a common and cheap method used for restoring hand planes and there are plenty of KZread videos demonstrating how to do it.

I think the advantage is that once the initial setup/grinding is done the sandpaper is quick and economical and takes no more time than the fancy rigs to get a good quality sharpness.

Great vid. I just using sandpaper and love the ease. Been doing it dry? You recommend the using water ?

Sos pads or brillo pads will remove surface rust from metal. I've used it on chrome bumpers without scratching them

Two things: 1. When I was at school, last shop lesson of the term/year/semester was spent oiling and wrapping the hand tools so they didn't go rusty over the break/holiday. I still like to keep bare metal surfaces oiled just for that reason. 2. Ryan casually says "Since you last saw me I've built my house"! I've been procrastinating over refitting one (small) bedroom for the past eight months! What is wrong with me?

I think (well - I know) that stropping your chisels after sharpening adds a lot to them in terms of sharpness and holding an edge. A piece of leather on mdf, some compound, that is all.

You didn't seem too thrilled with the sandpaper. Are you going to continue with it? Good video.

I buy all my planes and chisel already rusted. Not only are they a lot cheaper, but if they happen to get rusted again (although, that's never going to happen), it's not going to freak me out.

George from Auburn, AL here (War Eagle!). Is the WD-40 on the workbench part of the sharpening process?

I must have missed it but why ditch the glass in favor of the granite? I have a slab of granite is why I’m asking. Also, are you not going to use the auto store sandpaper and spray or double side tape? If so, your gonna just order adhesive backed sandpaper from rockler?

Those planes and chisels need some camelia oil or T9. Considered a dehumidifier?

I also use sandpaper but stick it down with water. Cheap and easy. Check Paul Sellers for his light oil can/rag to prevent rust on stored tools. I’ve been doing it and it works great!

Great video. Nice to see even KZread stars make mistakes also.

Bonus points for demonstrating how sharp they are by actually cutting wood, instead of just shaving your arm.

You were so sad in this one Ryan. Devastated!

Tape residue - use lighter fluid. (Naptha) .Takes it right off after a minor soak. Easy! comes off glass (or practically anything) Either dampen a paper towel or spread a few drops on the residue.. Stubborn ones where paper is embedded can use a razor blade scraper for coaxing. Massively cheaper than ordering high priced paper and granite blocks!

While your granite cut offs may be good enough and certainly will feel nicer to work with, they're probably not as flat as the glass and there's no certainty the next ones or someone else's will be flat. Removing the adhesive isn't an all day job. Soak it with Zippo lighter fluid to break it down and it should wipe right off with a paper towel or rag. 5-10 min and you'll have a perfectly clean piece of glass again.

@geoffsemon7411

6 жыл бұрын

Melamine is even flatter than glass. It's also really cheap and doesn't shatter when you drop it

try spray glue on the granite works a treat for me even with cheap sand paper:)

That pencil sharpener looks like a potential hip buster, lol

Will you do something to reduce moisture in your shop or "only" put some oil on your tools to avoid recurrence of rust?

Use spray adhesive.

if you cut the sandpaper in 1/2 you will have enough room for your jig

If you want to clean the glue off the glass easy, try using a little WD40. It is a great adhesive remover.

@lloydsimmons1906

6 жыл бұрын

He had the solution on the bench during the video. WD-40 is my go to adhesive remover and then use glass/surface cleaner to remove the WD-40. It only takes a couple of minutes and minimum effort.

@geoffsemon7411

6 жыл бұрын

Eucalyptus oil if you can get it is a much better adhesive remover than WD40.

@johnvgig

6 жыл бұрын

Acetone always works for me. You can get it st the box stores.

what grit on the belt sander?

@Shopbuilt

6 жыл бұрын

+John Harris 220

@dwarfsbaneironfist2527

6 жыл бұрын

do not use a belt sander, you risk damaging your tools, it will only take a few minutes by hand on sandpaper.

@dwarfsbaneironfist2527

6 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/aIKhq6SfpZyYp9Y.html watch this instead

I've been subscribed for a while now and before doing so, when I first saw one of your videos you looked so familiar. I knew i had seen you before somewhere. Then a few days ago it hit me.... Has anyone ever told you, you look like Miralem Pjanić? Lol I'm guessing prob not but he's a Bosnian soccer player. Granted, he is a bit younger but boy o’ boy do you look like him. Or does he look like you 🤔?!!

Dude. Work Sharp WS3000. Best $200 I've ever spent.

'Full of rust' ? Looks brand new to me !! Tool fetishists!!

I don't think I'd recommend using a belt sander to remove rust from the backs of chisels. If you touch the cutting edge down first, as I saw happen a couple of times in the video, you've lost the flatness of the chisel back.

Really bad idea to use belt sander for sharpening. No flat platen to insure blade back gets flat as when using glass. Use mineral spirits to clean glue residue off glass - easy 30 sec. job. Been using sand paper on glass followed by water stones for years. Only major job first time you have to flatten and make bevel. After that, a few min. per tool to stay sharp.

@Shopbuilt

6 жыл бұрын

+Mark Hazlewood I was concerned how flat it was as well, but I actually didn't have to spend that much time at the sand paper before It was fast.

Don't use a belt sander to sharpen your chisels. It's just a bad idea. Use something designed to sharpen your tools. For the glass, you don't need to tape them down, just wet the glass with glass cleaner and it will stick pretty good. I bought a worksharp 3000 for my chisels and plane blades and it works great. The sandpaper is lasting a lot longer than I expected it to.

@Shopbuilt

6 жыл бұрын

+Get over that Wall it is risky, but fast. I'm a busy person;)

@dwarfsbaneironfist2527

6 жыл бұрын

yeah, just stupid using that belt sander, lots of new woodworkers are going to mess their chisels and irons up doing that.

@DavidSchmitt

6 жыл бұрын

Dwarfsbane Ironfist I have little pity for someone watching Ryan screw up his first chisel here, and then still continue with the beltsander...

Just a little geology nerd info, those granite off cuts aren't really "granite," probably gabbro. Real granite is a light colored rock

Mistake mumber 1. Sharpen chisels on a belt sander....

That stinks.

I live in Lincolnshire in England. In the city of Lincoln they have a cathedral which was built 800 years ago. In that cathedral they have woodwork that would bring a tear to the eye of any woodworker today, professional or not. In those days they didn't know what 4000 grit was and saying things like 1.5 micron would have you hung as a heretic. This is wood for heavens sake. You only need to make a half decent mortise and tenon so stop with all this nonsense. Come back when you've built a cathedral and then tell me whether you need 4000 grit wet and dry paper. Until then, get real, we don't have time for all that shit.

@andytyrrell62

6 жыл бұрын

Nick J. Sigh, talk about missing the point. This wasn't some kind of Luddite response to the use of modern technology. Go back and read what I said carefully and see if you can work out what I am actually saying and why you you think I might be saying it. Get back to me if you're still having trouble.

@andytyrrell62

6 жыл бұрын

Nick. To be honest I thought you were being sarcastic when you asked if I have time for mobile (cell ughh) phones and, furthermore, I didn't realise I was writing for an exclusively American audience. There may be people from all over the English speaking world and beyond reading these comments. I consider myself reasonably well travelled but there's only so much cultural awareness I could conceivably posses. Besides, any country that could have Donald Trump as their president must have some kind of cultural impairment. You didn't say whether you had re-read my original comment so I'll explain. Most diy woodworkers I know come onto KZread to get tips, hints, tricks and inspiration to help them improve their skills and knowledge. For the best part most of them operate in tiny workshops, on very limited budgets and time constraints. So when someone with a seemingly massive budget and awesome workshop uses sharpening gear that's more expensive than all my chisels, planes and knives put together, don't be suprised when we get pissed off about it, especially when all that equipment is demonstrably unnecessary, hence my reference to the achievements of woodworkers 800 years ago. If you don't understand what I'm saying, feel free to ask and I will reply forthwith, yesss siree sir, hot diggety dang.

@andytyrrell62

6 жыл бұрын

Lawrence Copestick what's a Bruh? You really need to rethink how you say things to an English audience.

@TheForro

6 жыл бұрын

Not sure I'd use the metric system as my go-to put down, considering it is only the USA, Liberia and Myanmar that don't use it.

@woodywood1951

6 жыл бұрын

you don't even know what is the metric system. Nick J, you are very boring.