LOVE the new format Dustin! This lens is for sure going to end up in many photographers bags since its so small and light. Thanks for the awesome review. Probably will end up getting a copy soon.

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it. Enjoy your new lens!

This format is much improved. I noticed the overall length seems shorter than the old videos added together as you aren't having to do an introduction every time and re-cap what the other video had. It makes it more enjoyable and when researching a purchase it's great to be able see a single video. Thank you and keep it up.

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

That's true. The only potential downside I see to the new format is that the multi-episode approach allowed for audience feedback to potentially shape the final episode in terms of what got covered. I have to work well in advance for this format to work, as even the text review needs to be finished.

@ketangajria8855

4 жыл бұрын

Dustin Abbott that makes sense. My guess is you will get a good feel for what viewers want in most reviews doing what you already do. Also when you use a lens extensively you are able to identify behaviors that viewers wouldn’t have predicted for better or for worse. One example I’ll offer is when you noted that the Tamron 35-150 is a potential alternative to a 24-105. I hadn’t considered that because they marketed the lens more as a portrait zoom and most reviewers repeated those talking points. Because of your review I rented one for my last international trip and got a lot of landscape shots I love.

@thscful

4 жыл бұрын

@@DustinAbbottTWI I like this new approach Dustin. Previously, I thought the videos were too long and went too much into technical detail. We really just care about IQ, AF and user experience. One suggestion I would make is to choose a different subject than the wall. I find the wall makes it difficult to assess IQ. I personally love the numbers/lines chart that Christopher Frost uses, which makes it incredibly easy to judge center or corner sharpness. Of course, you bring a wealth of knowledge and experience testing lenses which is priceless. So, if you can find a superior alternative to walls, like something with numbers or lines, that would make it easier to compare lenses imo.

I really like the new format, Justin. THANK YOU for the timestamps. The review is more enjoyable and comprehensive like this. Also, is not time-consuming. Great review by the way.

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

Awesome, thank you!

very tidy and thorough review man, the new format is a winner!

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I like it, too.

The usual thorough, excellent review I have come to expect from you Mr. Abbott. And thank you once again for including coma info on this lens. Looks like it would be a great lens to use for astrophotography.

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

My pleasure. Glad to help out.

Nice lens review Dustin! Love the new format too! 👍

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

I'm glad to hear it

Finally, it's here. Been waiting for this review for so long.

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

Enjoy!

Love the new format, amazing reviews and videos! Thanks for such great and detailed content Dustin! I'm always looking forward to new videos you upload. Cheers from Bolivia!

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

That's great feedback. Thank you!

@mohammadlouis3377

2 жыл бұрын

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@georgejaxxon481

2 жыл бұрын

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@mohammadlouis3377

2 жыл бұрын

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@mohammadlouis3377

2 жыл бұрын

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Finally, I've been waiting for so long for this awesome and compact lens review. Please do another comparison review compare to other wide angle lens

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

I've got the Tamron 20mm F2.8 coming, so I might do some comparison as a part of that review.

Thanks for another great review Dustin. And I really like the new format as well. I think it is a good tradeoff for you as well, not having to use three times as much time on a review (meaning you can review three times as many lenses 😅). I really look forward to a comparison to the Tamron 20mm. I hope you will get this one for review as well 😊. Great work....!

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

I'm actually using up nearly as many release slots, but I do think the new format will allow me a little more flexibility on how I approach my reviews moving ahead. The only real downside is that I have less opportunity to incorporate user feedback into a future episode, as I have to work well in advance.

Hi Dustin ~ I hope you have a great 2023 ~!! Thank you for the in depth review ~!!! Always my choice for camera reviews!

@DustinAbbottTWI

Жыл бұрын

Happy new year!

Yes. I have waited for this review. Thanks Dustin 👍

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

You're welcome.

Great review thanks. Just ordered this lens to replace/compliment my Sony 28mm f2. I found that I needed that extra width after not quite being able to get Comet Neowise in my composition at the weekend. Excited to get shooting with it.

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

Enjoy!

Awesome review Dustin. I have tried this on my A9 and A7R IV, it's a bit soft on the A7R IV but still very usable. The AF doesn't play nice with fast action or the tracking function but for 400 dollars its a great wide angle lens that doesn't break the bank.

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

Tracking fast action with wide angles is a little tougher on Sony because (unless you are very close) there's no Eye AF tracking. Deeper depth of field makes this less of an issue, however, as most things remain in focus.

Thanks for your best reviews on the entire youtube!

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

That's high praise. Thanks!

Hi Dustin, I knew you would like it. I now have the 45mm and the 18mm Samyangs in my shoulder bag at all times because of their size/weight/optical performance combo. Hard to beat at the price as well!

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

I'm not surprised by your decision to keep them handy. They are so small and light that there is little consequence for doing so.

Muchas gracias Dustin, fantastic review. Greets from Spain.

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Thanks, Dustin! I have Sigma 14-24 and it's too heavy to bring everywhere with me. I will consider buying this lens for sure.

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

It is a nice alternative to the bigger, heavier zooms.

Always love your through videos. They are both instructive and entertaining. I got the Samyang 18mm today and tried it out. I found that I preferred the Tamron 20mm more. I know there are 2mm difference, some say, maybe even 3mm, but I just wasn't that impressed with the colors, contrast, etc. Just hoping that Capture One will make a profile for the Tamron soon. I rarely shoot under 24mm and my other Tamron prime, 24mm works great and is extremely sharp with good pop. I'm just a stills shooter, rarely do video.I just had the tampon 20mm and Samyang for those extremely rare occasions when I shoot wider. But returning the Samyang to Amazon.

@DustinAbbottTWI

2 жыл бұрын

I can understand what you are saying about the Tamron. I'm frankly surprised they don't have a profile in Capture One yet.

New review format is great. Also looks a very attractive travel lens.

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks...and that's definitely true.

I like this format more than anything. after all you are going to make a purchase decision after watching such videos.

@DustinAbbottTWI

2 жыл бұрын

It's definitely my most popular format.

Thanks dustin. I want to say i really like the Stonehenge photo in the end. What a jewel of an image.

@DustinAbbottTWI

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

I like the new all-in-one review format. And the lens looks like a steal. BTW, it looks like you zoom to 1:1 to the 4K resolution when examining resolution. Would you consider zooming to 2:1? Some of us still haven't got a 4K monitor (I have a Eizo CS240 with a native resolution of 1920x1200) so the comparisons are like looking at a down-scaled image. :)

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

I can consider that.

Thanks very much for this review, super informative as usual, I have just ordered the lens as it looks like exactly what I need.

@DustinAbbottTWI

3 жыл бұрын

Enjoy!

Nice review! Thinking of picking up this lens to vlog on the a7c :)

@DustinAbbottTWI

3 жыл бұрын

It's a nice choice for that. Great focal length for vlogging.

@MollyFitzBrown

3 жыл бұрын

@@DustinAbbottTWI have you ever tried the sony 20mm f/1.8? I've heard great things about it but like that this one is lighter and a tad wider :)

Wonderful addition to the Sony-mount suite of lenses. Thanks for the new review format as well. Question: Do you know (yet) how this compares to the new Tamron 20mm f/1.8 FE mount? Thanks!

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you like the new format. I'm expecting the 20mm any day now, so I'll be able to comment more after some comparison.

Great and trusty review 😀👍 thanks a lot for your work and sharing it with us.

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

You're welcome.

New format was good. I have this lens, I bought it for exactly the reasons you stated. If I go walking I take my a7RIII with the 24-105 attached and all fitted to a befree tripod. I had the 16-35 GM but I always left it behind as it felt heavy for the little use it would get. so now I have Samyang 18mm, it just slips in a pocket. The 24-105 is good close up and I can always pop an extension tube in another pocket. If I feel the need to shoot longer than 105 then I have reach for the 100-400 gm and a bag. This little Samyang 18mm solved a problem for me.

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

What you've described is the biggest problem with larger, heavier lenses. It doesn't matter how good they are if you end up leaving them at home because you don't want to carry them!

@thscful

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Paul, I'd appreciate it if you can solve a problem for me. I mostly shoot landscapes at 24mm and really want to get the 24 1.4, but about 5-10% of the time, a wider angle like 18mm comes in really handy, and this Samyang solves that problem really well by being incredibly cheap and light. However, IQ is a top priority. I was considering getting the 16-35 2.8 GM or the Sigma 14-24, but they're so heavy and expensive, I'd much rather go with the 18mm + 24mm set-up, especially since I don't need to go wider than 24mm too often. I would really appreciate it if you'd be able to give me some insight into IQ diff bw the 16-35GM and the 18mm, especially in the corners. If the difference is negligible and only really noticeable at like 200% zoom, then I can get the 18mm. IF there is a significant difference, i.e. >15-20% improvement with the GM, then I"ll have to think about it a bit more.

@paulstickley4819

4 жыл бұрын

@@thscful I have only had the lens 4 weeks and since the I have had cold/flu and the weather has been terrible. Due to this I have not used the lens much yet. Also most of my walking is done in wooded areas and I do not go wider than 24mm very often. Dustin gave the lens a good review and before I bought it I saw a review by Christopher Frost on KZread. Mr frost gave it a good review also. For me the portability was important and I am sure the image quality will meet my needs. Sorry I can't give you a better answer.

@MarcelVolker

4 жыл бұрын

I am planning to buy this lens for the same reason - to sit below my 24-105 main lens. Yes, I have the 16-35 F4 and yes it's great, but at times I will not want to carry both these fairly heavy lenses at the same time.

thanks for the review !!

@DustinAbbottTWI

3 жыл бұрын

You bet!

Your lens reviews really give us photographers a great tool giving us the information we really need. I am curious what the best IQ is in the 18mm range, does the 16-35 2.8 actually deliver a better image at 18mm? I'm assuming Sony will come out with some wide angle prime GM lenses, the 24mm is excellent but not quite wide enough for me. I already own the 15mm Laowa, I like it but sometimes it's too wide and it'd also be nice to have AF on a lens (although for landscapes I actually prefer manual focus).

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

I haven't tested the GM lens yet, so I can't offer my comment on that. I'll receive the Tamron 20mm F2.8 early next week, so that also might be an option for you.

These awesome little uwa lenses by Samyang and Tamron are really making the e mount system attractive to me!

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

So true. These little options really help fulfill the small and portable (but high quality) theme.

Nice review and a lot of information. Those sample photos made me want to buy this lens, they look sharp and with good contrast. Just a question: did you use a filter CPL or ND to take these snow photos ?

@DustinAbbottTWI

3 жыл бұрын

I used no filters on those photos.

I appreciate your informative and in depth explanations. What are your thoughts about this lens for real estate photography or just indoor shots? I know the "best" range recommended is 14 - 16mm. I don't want spend a ton on glass so the Sigma 14-24 and Sony 16-35 are out. I wouldn't use them much and I know I'd regret it. I tried the Samyang 14 2.8 and it was fun to play with while on vacation, but again, not something I would use a lot. And 18 mm seems like a sweet spot for me. Would it be useful for Real estate photography?

@DustinAbbottTWI

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Janis, while it isn't as wide as what you might like in some situations, I think it would work reasonably well. It does have some distortion, but that corrects fair well.

I needed an 14 or 18mm wide angle, which I normal have no need for. But I have bought the 18mm for this time, with in mind to save it for the occasion I need it. I must say, it is the first Samyang lens that has impressed me. It is sharp across the image indeed. Goor contrast, nice color rendering and a quiet autofocus which is fast enough for a wide angle. I think it has a magnificent price / quality ratio end for the money a great lens.

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

It is an excellent value for money, and so compact!

@familiedekuijper

4 жыл бұрын

@@DustinAbbottTWI Yes it is indeed. It is gonna stay in my bag. Small, light, so easy to bring along. It impresses me because of the sharpness on the edges. I was expecting less sharpness to the edges, but it is a quite strong performer. The vignet and disortion is there but easy correct in LR. The older Samyang lenses (50mm f1.4 or the 35mm f2.8 and f1.4) are not so good at the edges and give a not pleasant motion blur looking background. This one doesn't.

Hi Dustin! thanks again for all your work and amazing reviews that help so much in the moment of decidin what to buy... I have sucha. doubt about geting a wide lense because I'm not a very wide shooter, nromally I prefer to shoot tight but I'm getting some video work where I will need some wider option. I have the Tamron 28-75 and wanted something a bit wider so my options are tamron 17-28, Samyang 18mm or even consider the Sony 20mm... I know it's a difficult question and I guess most of the decision would be based in budget.. but which one would you choose over this three? Thanks a lot again. Manel

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

Sony for image quality, Tamron for versatility, Samyang for portability. They all have strengths. Overall I would say the Sony is my favorite of the three...though it is the only one I don't own.

Nice! Looking forward to more lens makers considering f/2.8 or f/2 type smaller lenses ..

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

For sure. I do think there's a solid market for lenses like this.

I really like this new format, I would recommend to stay with it.

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback.

Excellent review, I have been using the Zeiss batis 18 mm profile with success

@DustinAbbottTWI

3 жыл бұрын

That's interesting feedback.

Nail on the head, this is a much better format!

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it.

Thanks Dustin for review. On a Sony A7R3 do you think there would be a noticeable edge in sharpness and coma between this lens and the Tamron 17-28 and the Sony 16-35 F4 (which I have) - thinking about something faster for casual astro and indoor travel shooting?

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

I don't think there would be a noticeable edge in sharpness over the Tamron, though it does have an advantage in the corners.

Hi Dustin, thanks for this review. Had just watched it but am I right to say, at least what I seemed to get from this review, is that image quality, in terms of sharpness, although not as sharp on corners wide open, is nonetheless better than what you’d generally expect for a lens at this focal length?

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

That's basically true. A lens like the Sony 20mm F1.8G is a lot sharper, but this one is better than many.

@perseus2052

4 жыл бұрын

@@DustinAbbottTWI Thanks, Dustin! I'm going to have a gander at the Sony 20mm now and see what that one is like! I'm looking a nice wide angle for some environmental portraits. Have a nice 35mm, but I think wider would be nicer.

Thank you for the review! I have the 12mm F2 AF Samyang for APS-C. Would you say the Samyang AF 18mm F2.8 is the pretty much the equivalent for Full Frame? I really enjoy the 12mm for APS-C and am upgrading to Full Frame.

@DustinAbbottTWI

Жыл бұрын

I would say that's roughly true.

Hi great review! could I ask you how much difference is there between this and batis 18? Thank you for your grat work

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

The Batis is sharper at F2.8-F4 in the center of the frame, and they are close in the corners. The Samyang has lower distortion. Zeiss has more dramatic color.

Thank you for this! One reviewer noticed a blue tint to the vignette when shooting a white background - have you noticed this at all? (not that taking pictures of a white wall is very common for most of us, but it sounds somewhat difficult to fix in post if it does show up)

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

I did see a bit of that, yes (you can see it in my comparison with the Tamron 20mm). It wasn't much of a real world issue, however.

@robinfellows-weir3734

4 жыл бұрын

@@DustinAbbottTWI Okay, thanks, I'll take a look at that video. But it's good to know, as I suspected, that it's not a big deal!

Great I will buy this lens soon, thanks!

@DustinAbbottTWI

3 жыл бұрын

Enjoy it

Excellent review!

@DustinAbbottTWI

2 жыл бұрын

Thank yo very much.

Hello dustin, great review thank you, but i have a question, Wich one do you feel is a better option between this and the tamron 20mm both are the same price and the 2mm difference Is not a great deal for me, Wich one would you pick? Thanks in advance

@DustinAbbottTWI

3 жыл бұрын

It is a tough question. I personally would probably go with the Samyang even though the Tamron has some real advantages. The distortion is a serious problem on the Tamron.

Great review Dustin’! I’m probably going to replace my 16-35mn GM with this and the 24mm GM.

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

That will be a nice pairing.

@dlee13

4 жыл бұрын

@@DustinAbbottTWI I just read that Sigma have patented a few FF Mirrorless lenses like a 16mm f/2 and 18mm f/2.8 so that could be interesting.

@CedricRachmad

3 жыл бұрын

How did that work out for you? I also have the 24GM and looking for another lens for wider range. In doubt about the 16-35GM vs 2 primes.

Excellent Dustin! In terms of image quality, how would you rank the Samyang, Tamron 20mm 2.8 and the Tamron 17-28mm 2,8? Thanks!

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

I'm expecting the Tamron 20 in a week or so, so I don't actually know how it ranks. The 17-28 is very sharp in the center, but the Samyang gets a little edge in the corners. There's no major difference between the two lenses.

@vladionescu8445

4 жыл бұрын

@@DustinAbbottTWI What about focus speed, accuracy and tracking capability? I think a more in depth comparison would be interesting.

Does the flexi-point refer to flexible spot? I'm new to Sony platform and came from 10 years old Nikon DSLR. Also considering to get the lens mainly for astrophotography and my choice is between this and Sigma 16mm f/1.4. The reason I'm more so favoring Samyang is that it doesn't crop the image on full frame Sony if I were to eventually upgrade, as the latter is designed for APS-C.

@DustinAbbottTWI

Жыл бұрын

That's a smaller focus area that you can move around the screen.

Thanks for the review! How would you compare it as an alternative to the wide end of the Tamron 17-28?

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

The Tamron is very punchy in the center of the frame but the Samyang is a little better in the edges.

@thscful

4 жыл бұрын

@@DustinAbbottTWI Would you say that at F4, the difference bw the two is negligible? I do print my landscape shots, so corner sharpness does make a difference, especially on my A7R3. YOu do save a lot of weight and dollars with the Rokinon.

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

At F4 I would say they are more similar than different. If you don't need the advantages of a zoom, the Samyang is great value for money.

Dustin, for that 'one shot where eyeaf didnt work' - at 07:06 it really appears that around her everything is in focus. So her being not sharp looks like it was due to movement and not missed focus.

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

I'm afraid not. That shot is at 1/2000th of a second, fast enough to easily stop a bird in rapid flight.

@phynesse2000

4 жыл бұрын

@@DustinAbbottTWI ok thanks for checking

Great format - interesting lens but, I am waiting for the 20mm f/2.8 Tamron which will be coming soon! My Rokinon 12mm f/2.0 for APSC Sony cameras is a great lens but, so is the Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8...

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

I'm expecting the 20mm F2.8 in the next week, so I might even throw in a few comparisons.

Bro, I recently bought a Samyang 18mm lens for my Sony A7C II, but unfortunately, the autofocus is really bad. While vlogging, it doesn't detect my face most of the time. I checked the firmware of the lens, and it's on version 3; I think the latest version is 8. I don't have a lens dock to update the lens. Could you please advise me? Would it be better to return the lens, or will updating the firmware make a difference?

@DustinAbbottTWI

9 ай бұрын

Updating the firmware should solve the problems, as Samyang has gotten MUCH better at autofocus since this lens was released. Get the Samyang Lens Station and then it is easy to update firmware for that and future lenses.

Hi Dustin! I'm not sure if this question has been asked already but would you choose this lens over the Tamron 20mm f2.8?

@DustinAbbottTWI

3 жыл бұрын

I do prefer the Samyang, myself. The autofocus and distortion on the Tamron is really a downer for me.

Hey! Thanks for the video! I just got an A7C Looking for a lens to do vlogging. What do you recommend between the Samyang 18mm f2.8, Samyang 14mm f2.8, Tamron 17-28 2.8, Sony 20mm f1.8 Thanks

@DustinAbbottTWI

3 жыл бұрын

If you can afford the Sony 20mm, go for it. It's a special lens. Tamron 17-28 is second best.

Use this for astro and landscapes, it's a gem... especially for $250 used, that's a steal for an autofocus, wide-angle lens that is feather light!

@DustinAbbottTWI

3 жыл бұрын

It is incredibly light, for sure.

Thank you Dustin. For me, landscape photography, the most important thing, is sharpness. The Samyang Af 18mm is close to Tamron 17-28 2.8 (17mm) in sharpness ??? i only have focal greather then 24mm :S

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

Close, yes. The Tamron is a little better in the center, the Samyang in the edges.

Thanks you for your thoughts. Great video. In you opinion, how does this compare to the Batis 18mm?

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

The Batis is probably sharper in the center of the frame, but the Samyang is close in the corners. Batis has a bit more contrast and slightly richer color. It also has the advantage of weather sealing.

@truthsurfer808

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the reply, @@DustinAbbottTWI!

It is crazy how accurate and let's just say "distortion free" this lens is while being a 18mm lens :O Love it! Also the price is mindblowing, such a great value. I'm so mad there is no similar alternative in the Canon line, even the EF 20mm f/2.8 is a piece of junk and more expensive. I'm hesitating so much between the Sony A7 II and the Canon EOS RP, because I really like Canon colors and the RP makes better 1080p and has more usable AF, while the A7 II has better dynamic range and the lenses which suitable for me are cheaper, and in this case, more exsiting. Even the Nikon D610 is in the competition (in my country those 3 bodies have similar price), but wide AF-S lenses are pretty expensive, and I really don't want to spend a lot of money for a one trick pony, because everyone say the video capabilities of that Nikon (or Nikon DSLR's in general) isn't really good for anything. I know some of you would say "just aim for the Sony A7 III because color and focus issues are pretty much solved with that body, even has decent 4K", but it is "out of my reach", I'm 29 years old, don't really have too many things, so even if I could get like an EOS R5 with 2 or 3 lenses, I definietly won't.

@DustinAbbottTWI

3 жыл бұрын

The RP is a better camera in actual use, though the sensor in the a7II is arguably better.

@tidaltidaltidal

Жыл бұрын

@@DustinAbbottTWI The battery in a7ii is 200% better than rp too

I have a gap between 14mm & 28mm. Can't decide between this and the Tamron 20mm f/2.8 or one of the wide zooms..... I need to decide soon for a trip to Hong Kong in March. Great video though @Dustin Abbot, like the new format.

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

I'm to receive a loaner of the Tamron 20mm in the next week, so hopefully that will help.

@adidasaddict

4 жыл бұрын

@@DustinAbbottTWI Yes, I look forward to your findings

Like your reviews so much

@DustinAbbottTWI

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

Would this be a good lens for real estate? Usually I shoot at F4 or 5.6 for real estate apartments so don't want to invest in FE 20 1.8 G or even the zoom options that are at similar prices. This samyang is around half the price.

@DustinAbbottTWI

3 жыл бұрын

It wouldn't be a bad budget option, though there are lower distortion models out there.

What do you guys think about this versus the Tamron 20mm 2.8 af that is coming out this month?? They are about the same price.

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

If you'll stay tuned, I'm expecting the Tamron any day now and will be covering it in a few weeks (with a few comparisons).

I’ve been watching your videos on lens ever since I purchased a Sony A7R iv. Most of my lens purchases are based on your reviews. This latest 18mm looks like a good buy but I was hoping that a new 14 to 15 f2 or 2.8 would come out soon. That’s also assuming that it wouldn’t weight a ton. If your aware of anything up coming and have time to respond I would greatly appreciate it.

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

Samyang does have a 14mm F2.8 as well. I recently reviewed the RF version of it which is optically similar to the FE version. You could check out that review.

Great review! How would you compare the samyang 14mm with the 18mm?

@DustinAbbottTWI

3 жыл бұрын

I think this lens is a little less sharp at wide apertures, but has less distortion.

It seems to be giving decent sun stars too? e.g. @19:56, 19:59 and several more shots in that sequence.

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, they are pretty good. Not the most exceptional I've seen, but nice.

Beautiful review..

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the nice feedback

I owned the 12mm F2 manual focus from Samyang for Fuji APS-C and the colours looked wrong on it as well as it picked up glare like mad. If there was a light somewhere on the wall in the room, it would wash the image out, it was unusable in so many instances! - Does the 18mm F2.8 exhibit any problems like this?

@harveylouis445

2 ай бұрын

I own the AF version of the Samyang 12mm and I have to agree about the colors, which I find too cool.

Need some suggestion How is the samyang 18mm f2.8 on sony a7iii as compared to sony10-18mm f4 on a6400? I am planning to go on sony system. And i am confused between sony a7iii or a6400 because of that ultrawide lens. I have two sets in mind but I can’t choose which one to go 1. Sony a7iii+ tamron 28-75 f2.8+ samyang 18 f2.8 2. Sony a6400+ sigma trio + sony 10-18 f4 I mostly shoot in the range of 24-70 but sometimes I need that ultrawide lens(near 16 mm) for covering the whole landscape and some creative photos with unique perspective that ultrawide gives. I am not much into video or vlogging. Photo is my priority. F2.8 on full frame will give me sufficient amount of blur and low light capability. It would be much better to just zoom in and out on tamron than changing lens each time with the sigma trio. And it will be easier to carry one lens than carrying three lens while travelling. But If I go with a7iii and tamron 28-70 I couldn’t afford more than the samyang 18mm lens. If the samyang lens is as good as sony 10-18 I would easily go with a7iii but I don’t know if the photo quality of samyang is as good as the sony 10-18. since it is a cheap lens I have some doubt that can it give the quality like sony 10-18? Can you tell me about those lens which one should I go for?

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

I've got a full frame bias, and I think the a7III is the better camera. That's the route I think you will be happiest with.

Thanks Dustin, does Samyang 18mm create more distortion than Tamron 20mm?

@DustinAbbottTWI

Жыл бұрын

No, it has less

I like the format

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it.

Hello, I would like to buy a wide lens, but am confused about the difference between the Tamron 20mm and the Samyang 18mm

@DustinAbbottTWI

3 жыл бұрын

The Tamron is a little sharper and has weather sealing. It also has much higher magnification. It's downsides are heavy distortion and slower/louder autofocus. The Samyang is more compact, has a wider focal length, much less distortion, and a much quieter, faster AF system. It's not an easy decision.

Appreciate it for making gud review.

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome

Any info about using this lens without the lens hood? I picked one up for a good deal missing the hood and I'm wondering if it's worth it to spend the $20-30 on an oem lens hood when it looks so tiny and flimsy anyway.

@DustinAbbottTWI

Жыл бұрын

I would just trying using it without the hood. You’re right about the size of the hood; it’s not going to make a huge difference

I am glad Samyang has started making AF lenses for Canon RF mount as well.

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely agree

Is this the best budget lends for me? Looking to buy my first ultrawide for indoor architecture and product shots. I make furniture for small apartments and want relatively distortion free photos of a room, say 9' wide and 10'-20' long. Any advice? Thanks!!!

@Nickporter17

4 жыл бұрын

Also thank you Dustin, your channel is awesome!!

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

This is a good budget lens, though the better choice is the Laowa 15mm F2 (basically distortion free, but manual focus only and more expensive.)

I already have the 24mm f2.8 AF. I really want this one but I'm wondering if I need both..

@DustinAbbottTWI

3 жыл бұрын

Probably not both - but it might be a worth replacement.

I purchased this lens few months ago and your review meets my opinion.

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it.

@thscful

4 жыл бұрын

Would you be able to comment on how it compares to the 16-35 GM or Sigma 14-24 or Batis 18 2.8? Really considering those alternatives, but they're all either too big or expensive, and I rarely need to go wider than 24mm, so I'd rather not spend top dollars on a lens I"ll use less than 10-15% of the time. However, I'm not willing to sacrifice IQ too much, and so if the IQ diff isn't significantly different at the corners (i..e less than 10% difference), perhaps the Rokinon is the best compromise and probably a steal at the price.

Is this Sam yang 18mm f2.8 good for vlogging? (considering the real time eye AF)

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

Definitely.

Dustin! I watched both, TTartisan 11mm and this Samyang AF 18mm, and cannot make my mind! I love the super wide angle of the 11mm although I feel like the AF of the 18mm can be very useful for videography. Any thoughts? I'd appreciate them! as I'm about to buy any of these two (or both🤔😅). Thanks! Super great videos, thanks for sharing.

@DustinAbbottTWI

2 жыл бұрын

I find the fisheye look far less practical for most work, so I'd lean towards the Samyang.

@brosinmktg

2 жыл бұрын

@@DustinAbbottTWI Thanks for your quick reply. I feel the same, I think that it can be cool for certain angles, more creative, abstracts if you like, but the 18mm is quite wide but keeps lines more straight for interior shooting, for vlogging also nice to count with the AF. I think I've made my mind with your comment 🥳 Thank you very much!

@DustinAbbottTWI

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome.

I use the Samyang / Rokinon 24mm along with my Tamron 28-75mm (now replaced with the new 28-200mm, hehe) and love it mostly for its’ size and snappy and very quiet AF. It’s decently sharp; but kinda lacks in strong/pop contrast and is a little hazy lookin sometimes. I’m actually on my 2nd Samyang 24mm now, only because I tried the Tamron OSD prime version of it briefly (which is super sharp; but I hated the noisy and hunting OSD drive... as I shoot lots of video too, and a gimbal lens). Have you ever tried the Samyang/Rokinon 24mm?? If yes, how does it compare to the Samyang 18mm in terms of IQ, sharpness, etc.?

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

I think the 18mm is the better lens as a complete package. It's only slightly sharper, however.

@LessTalkMoreDelicious

4 жыл бұрын

@@DustinAbbottTWI Ah, I see. Thanks for the reply. Sounds like it boils down to more which FL you need.

I really like your reviews Dustin, straight from the battlefield ;) thank you very much. now i have big doubt....samyang 18mm or tamron 20mm? What would you choose?? Greetings from Poland :)

@DustinAbbottTWI

3 жыл бұрын

I personally choose the 18mm. That distortion on the Tamron 20mm (and the weaker autofocus) is just a deal-breaker for me.

@KanalFirmowy

3 жыл бұрын

@@DustinAbbottTWI thank you very much, now the choice is more clear. i will use it a lot for video so the tamron's AF was controversial. Have a nice day!

Was a tough choice between this and the 24mm but I got the 24mm instead, would really like this aswell if funds allowed

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

You've got to prioritize what you will use the most.

@andrewrichards912

4 жыл бұрын

@@DustinAbbottTWI I will probably not get the 18mm, I will have much more use for the 24mm.

Hi dustin, How can I protect this lens from moisture? I always use the lens on my camera

@DustinAbbottTWI

3 жыл бұрын

Are you having a problem? I store my gear in a dry cabinet (I reviewed one here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dZp229WbY8fYZNo.html)

@rgie._

3 жыл бұрын

@@DustinAbbottTWI oooh my god, I don't have so much money right now to buy a dry electronic cabinet, I said to use this type of lens, how can I do for keeping it dry? because where I live there's a lot of humidity, thank you

Could you recommend this Ken's over the 14mm 2.8 samyang?

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

It really depends what your needs and priorities are. I like the 18mm focal length better in many situations, though when you need to go wide, 14mm is fantastic.

@cebro648

4 жыл бұрын

@@DustinAbbottTWI Thank you, I want will the 18mm . I thought the 14 would be a little to wide. Btw you snow whites pictures are beautiful and very white . Are you overexposing like a stop and a half to get those beautiful Whites ? Also did you add any sharpness or clarify to those images ?

Review the 24mm version please. 🙏 I know it’d be long overdue... but there’s actually only a very few YT reviews of it.

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately my Samyang reviews are dependent on them getting me loaners, which they essentially only do of new lenses.

@LessTalkMoreDelicious

4 жыл бұрын

@@DustinAbbottTWI Ah, I see. You can always inquire about it to them though ;) But, they are probably wary/scared to send them out to reviewers, because it might get a very bad review, lol (heavy vignette, flaring and haze, low contrast... but at least it's pretty sharp and also very quick & quiet AF).

@veritas932

3 жыл бұрын

@@LessTalkMoreDelicious instead of asking Dustin to inquire about it, why don't you inquire about it and get Samyang to send it to Dustin. If enough people inquire about it, I'm sure Samyang will send it to Dustin. Do your bit to move things along.

Lenses like these Samyang primes and the two Tamron f/2.8 zooms for Sony are showing, that a full frame camera with capable but small lenses IS indeed possible. Maybe now the promises like "mirrorless will make systems more compact" are closer to reality.

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

It is possible, so long as you don't go for large maximum apertures.

great video :)

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you

Is it suitable for full frame sensor right?

@DustinAbbottTWI

2 жыл бұрын

That's correct.

14mm, 18mm, 24mm, 35mm, 45mm, 50mm and 85mm AF for Sony and other Mirrorless Full Frame... Wow is having the full set worth it now?

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

It's a nice set of lenses, for sure. I don't love the 50mm, but there's a lot of goodies in there.

Is it good for group photo?

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

Sure, though you always want to make sure with any wide angle lens to not put people right at the edge of the frame or they will appear stretched.

A good way you have chosen to review photo equipment because it is the right way to retain and get new users of the channel .....

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

That's my sincere hope!

Should make for a nice lens for vlogging.

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

Definitely true.

@EmoEmu

4 жыл бұрын

Oh and in general it's really nice to hear that Samyang can now make lenses that focus silently.

I have this lens and it works very well with the 24 Mpx A7iii. However I have found it to be bit soft on the A7r IV. But to be fair so does most lenses. (I admit to being a pixel peeper).

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

That's not surprising. That would be at a pixel level, however, so if you downsample to more moderate levels I'm sure the sharpness is fine

@efferoconsultingabprojects3500

4 жыл бұрын

@@DustinAbbottTWI Yes Dustin ;=) that's correct, just have to hold back the PP monster inside me. One other lens that actually impressed me even on the A7r IV is the new Sigma 24-70. It's really a work of art. I have never seen this kind of performance from any other 24-70 regardless of brand. Now I'm hoping for a new 70-200 Sigma Art for Sony with the same form factor as the Canon RF lens, but at half the price! ;=) / Thank you for all the effort you put in!

@sgo2595

4 жыл бұрын

@@efferoconsultingabprojects3500 That's the main problem with this lens from what i've heard. On the A7rIV it has some difficulty (corner not so sharp). The tamron 20 seems a better fit for the 61mp. Though, again, not everyone need a JPEG of such resolution. So i guess A7rIV + 18 is still ok for most of us.

@thscful

4 жыл бұрын

@@sgo2595 Even at F4 the issue persists?

@thscful

4 жыл бұрын

@@efferoconsultingabprojects3500 Interestingly, Stefan Malloch's recent reviews of the 24-70 suggests some glaring issues. Seems like there may be a lot of copy variation with the Sigma that they need to sort out.

Is this good for Real Estate?

@DustinAbbottTWI

Жыл бұрын

It has a little more distortion than what I would like for that application, but frankly its pretty decent for the price.

I for one will miss the old format. I would look forward to the image quality review with anticipation after watching the intro. This also felt a little like you were rushing to get it all in. Still, the best reviews out there!

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

I understand, though you seem to be well in the minority. When I've interacted with my audience the vast majority voted for this new format, and the feedback on this first release has been overwhelmingly positive. It sounds like you have the capacity for delayed gratification, which is rare on KZread.

7:18 left rail

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

yes, people like to swear.

3:00 LMAO ,, plz don't be nervous...

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

:)

I would like to have seen an example of an image zoomed to 100%

@DustinAbbottTWI

3 жыл бұрын

Have you watched the whole video? There's a number of shots shown at least at 100% during the image quality breakdown.