At that point in the game it's a lightning rod, it won't be on the battlefield long enough to make the game not fun.

@Koptland

2 ай бұрын

As someone who runs vorinclex with this one in the deck, only way I will let anyone kill voice of hunger is with a board wipe, but by the time someone can use one I will probably have something to get him out of the graveyard

I had a game on Monday where a Vorinclex showed up, and an Ulamog the Infinite Gyre shortly after. While both got answered, there was a lot of ill will around the table for the guy who played those cards. Which let me get by and resolve a Rise of the Dark Realms to grab the very same Vorinclex among other things, doubling my mana and letting me run away with the game.

It slows people down, but it doesn't say "Enemies can't untap lands" just that they can't the next turn after they do tap them. It's not as salty as other cards, but it warrants an immediate removal.

At my LGS, the salt doesn’t pour for Vorinclex - but the removal spells do lol. I just picked one up recently, plan to slot into my Jinnie Fay pets & politics deck

He is a wincon setup for my henzie toolbox deck. It is amazing how fast you can get him out to lock down the board or use him to scare out removal while you setup another banger.

@BosSoxFan15

2 жыл бұрын

Hey if you have a moxfield, tapped out or other list you can link to for your henzie deck I would love to check it out as Im building my own.

@Twime.

2 жыл бұрын

Following

@RazielNightfall

2 жыл бұрын

@@BosSoxFan15 I have tried posting it 3 times via link and I think the comment gets auto deleted. My moxfield account is Nightfall80. The deck name is Jund Toolbox big threats.

@BosSoxFan15

2 жыл бұрын

@@RazielNightfall No problem. Probably an auto feature to keep bots from spamming. I was able to find your deck list thank you.

@RazielNightfall

2 жыл бұрын

@@BosSoxFan15 hope you like it. I decided not to run a combo pack. It is just a “next man up” style Battle cruiser, and only wants 4-5 creatures to stick around everything else is blitzed into play.

He's great in omnath manadorks. More mana, bigger Omnath

I find it hilarious how two of the most salty cards in commander are both vorinclex's.

Just threw this in my Volo Itinerant Scholar/Master Chef deck, he definitely warrants the hate he gets

Vorniclex seems like a salt inducing card for the person playing with it. Here's how everytime I've seen it played go: P1: casting Vorniclex, pass P2: doom blade P3 and P4: thank you, out of respect for your service we will leave you alone and beat up on p1 till you get to untap your lands

It’s fine. It’s an 8 mana mono color commander.

@tonyngo1885

2 жыл бұрын

@@erictran2811 yeah but it’s an 8 mana creature and the effect is worst than winter orb which is a 2 mana artifact. There are way more oppressive cards for 8 mana.

Just picked up a single yesterday for my Jodah, The Unifier deck. He makes my 7th praetor in that deck, topped off with Realbreaker. With my elesh norn giving +2+2 and jodah's effect it's a +9+9 to everything but elesh as soon as they enter. Jin-Gitaxias prgress tryant as removal defense. Doesn't always pop off how I'd like, but it gets all the salt when it does.

Dies to removal. Tap 2 in response and infernal grasp it. Float a white and swords it. Just know it's there and play around it

Just played a game two nights ago using my Vorinclex Monstrous raider commander deck. I casted Natural Order on turn 2 and brought out Voice of Hunger. By the time they finally removed it, it was too late. I had Monstrous Raider and ultimated a Nissa who shakes her Booty and Ugin

Thanks for reminding I actually own a copy of this. Need to put it in my Sek'kuar reanimator

I built a xenagos stack's using similar effects including Vorinclex. Is a gem when people find themselves facing a Gruul "stack's" agro..turn 1, forest to sol Ring to winter Orb 😋

I played a hall of gemstones this last Friday, it's upset everyone so much you'd of thought I set the table on fire.

I play him when people like to play landfall. As a treat.

He's honestly fine. 8 mana to cast anything should be fair game nowadays.

@ZEESHANKHAN-gn7hs

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget, the card is green. In green deck turn 3 or 4 you can play it.

@bogdanoff2828

2 жыл бұрын

@@ZEESHANKHAN-gn7hs Turn 3 is a bit generous, even with top end ramp you're rarely ever going to be playing 8 drops before turn 5 unless you get lucky enough to start with sol ring + mana crypt.

@officialteaincorporated243

2 жыл бұрын

@@bogdanoff2828 Before turn 5 is pretty easy even with a budget. Turn 1: Forest into sol ring into any two mana artifact that can produce one mana. Turn 2: Forest (You have up to 5 mana now), sisays ring (or any other artifact that can produce 2) Turn 3: Forest (You can now cast it)

@redhotchikapepr8978

2 жыл бұрын

He’s in green, that 8 might as well be a 4

@cloud3151

2 жыл бұрын

@@officialteaincorporated243 there are ways to answer pretty early on as well. It’s not the greatest of feelings to try and stop something insane like Vorinclex by turn 4, but each color has a way to deal with it super early in the game if need be even with a budget or casual deck.

I once got into an argument because I refused to play against this deck. This card is good but its not fun..

When this hits the board the board goes 💥 (if u don't have an exile spells bec getting it in the grave is not viable as it will be no. 1 card for getting back from the grave )

It's not salt inducing for me if it happens after turn 3

@kendojunson7971

2 жыл бұрын

Yes reanimating him on turn 1 is def problematic

@kingfuzzy2

2 жыл бұрын

Absoposilutly

Ive beaten this and ulamog off the same golos activation... that game started with turn 1 sol ring into signet cast golos on 2 activate on 3... that game was fun... keep your salt... it takes quite a bit to trigger me

Made a commander deck on Seshiro, Whispering Hunter. Very similar but make him voltron and unblockable.

I only run this in my atla deck so that way I can say well I didn’t cast it 🤷‍♂️

@Ginganinja3181

2 жыл бұрын

Me too🤣 , although the response is always the same. YOU PUT THE DECK TOGETHER! 🤷‍♂️😅

This is the reason for good removal. It's not like it has hexproof or anything

It’s really only salt inducing if A:have to use sorcery speed removal on this dude. B: holds up removal because the cost isn’t worth it and then gives the game to saud player because no one payed the cost. But this card and Jin from this set really teach players the value of cards like path to exile and swords to plowshares.

Hey I actually remembered now to ask if you can make a short about how Grist, the Hunger Tide works with Soul Foundry?

I play him in my 5-color deck, usually I don't summon him unless I know it'll win me the game in the next two turn, he just secures the win. The less it stays in play, the more all players are happy

i remember once playing selvala, explorer returned i managed to pay for vorinclex with her mana ability (the one that gives me mana for each nonland card revealed by the ability then draw) then i played zendikar resurgent and i had more mana to play with in result than before casting vorinclex let's just say from 7 to 15

If by saltiest you mean chaff mythic than I agree

I’m literally disgusted that you didn’t use the New Phyrexia version…. Shame. Hail Phyrexia

@Oneslicknick

2 жыл бұрын

Hail Phyreixa φ

@mrknarf4438

2 жыл бұрын

*Φ*

All hail Phyrexia φ

Yeah he is not very welcome in our playgroup. The blue one that discards opponents hand to.

Awww cmon! He's Just a pinch of salt (that I run in every green deck). Fun Praetor

Lol. Got my opponents out on turn 4 with satori umezawa and silent blade oni. Then kept pulling it back from GY with primordial

Its a great card. Nothing a path to exile or a counter spell can't handle. If you want a salty commander go take a look at Narset

Salt doesn't pour when he arrives, because I'm usually casting or cheating him out

Honestly he's not as bad as he seems 1) he's a creature easier to remove than something like back to basic or winter orb 2) if you already have tapped lands when he's summoned, your lands still gonna still untaped next untaped because you already tapped your land unlike other cards they prevent you untap

Not really, His blue bro makes more T.T when cheated out

Turn 3 ulamog also is a pretty salty commander

Well if you have archetype endurance on the battlefield Vorinclex then players are salties when that is the game

I once got this guy out on turn 3 cause I had a really good starting hand. I was targeted for the rest of that game and didn't have a single other spell resolve

I welcome the hate. The person at my table playing a $2.3k Kaalia deck that removes me from the game first every time we shuffle up, or the plethora of people who play stax control, completely locking everyone out of the ability to play the game have killed my sympathy for Vorinclex haters. People don't want to have to play with a card like Vorinclex in mind because it makes them have to play cautiously and keep mana up to respond to the threat just in case it drops. If you're playing casually, and aren't sitting at the table with $1,000+ decks, then you can justify feeling like that card isn't justified. But if you start to prioritize the competitive portion of the game and start raising the power level beyond the casual realm, or playing heavy control themes? You need to chill with the Vorinclex hate and play smarter

If you can’t deal with an 8 drop in a 4 player pod in an entire turn cycle, then you probably weren’t in any shape to win the game anyways. Stax effects are only really powerful when they hit the board super early, this is nowhere close to that.

"that's such a jerk card for jerks"

In my Selvala deck, this is a very funny card. I always look for it from tutors :)

@caiopereira1289

2 жыл бұрын

Ughh, that's just not fun

@RGL1AX1M

2 жыл бұрын

@@caiopereira1289 For my opponents of course

I put Vori (both versions) in my Atraxa deck. Nope. Not a infect deck. It's actually Atraxa reborn. I use the counter like shield or the many from Ikoria for a political strategy to make me stronger but, also makes my other enemies stronger giving them more options to clap the other players for me while I make deals to a Win. Vorinclex is a basically a game ender. Coupled with nyxborn tree dude who tripples your mana after it's been doubled. Lol. While your opponents can't even grab a single mana.

it does not double the mana it just adds 1

I play against blue decks, so they deserve all the salt

The only time I've been been WTF? about this card was in a prismatic bridge deck that flipped Avacyn, Elesh Norn, and this, and all of them were print-out proxies. Like I get the cards aren't dirt cheap but they're available and if you're going to play like that then atleast buy the cards. And even that is fine but the player was unbelievably smug about it like he was this genius by shoving in the 8-10 most miserable creatures in the format and having bridge just cast them out. Whoever made the KZread video that inspired that kid, just know. I resent you. Like we get it.

Is this new or old?

We ban griselbrand but not this? OK.

A lil bullshit but that's why we play removal.

Love it.

Play winter orb instead

All vorenclexes are annoying

It's been years since I've seen any mention of this card, let alone successfully play/cheat it in. Overall fair card, not salty at all.

needs to be banned