Salmon Dial Battle: The Patek 5270p-001 VS The Breitling Premier Heritage Datora

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Brian compares two beautiful, but very different, salmon dial calendar chronographs. On one side we have the Patek 5270p and on the other the Breitling Premier Datora. Is the difference in price justified? Who are these watches for? What aspects of collecting draw you to the hobby? These are just a few questions that we explore in the video.
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  • @luxman9463
    @luxman94632 жыл бұрын

    Buy the Breitling and have money left over for the Land Rover.

  • @shrevecrumplow

    @shrevecrumplow

    2 жыл бұрын

    Its hard to argue with that proposition! Thanks for commenting.

  • @stopthecap2644

    @stopthecap2644

    Жыл бұрын

    Lmao… I mean.. solid logic you’ve got there

  • @MattH-wg7ou

    @MattH-wg7ou

    Жыл бұрын

    Or a frikken house!

  • @charp150

    @charp150

    9 ай бұрын

    You could buy way more than a Land Rover

  • @AlexNoman

    @AlexNoman

    2 ай бұрын

    buy yourself a house and a car and tissot prx 80

  • @WorldsWorstFishing
    @WorldsWorstFishing2 жыл бұрын

    I am a very proud Breitling owner and lover of horology... But this is on the level of comparing a Monet painting to a Middle School art project. However I love the video concept and the boldness to even make a comparison such as this. The more literature I read about what makes high-end watchmaking high-end watchmaking.. the more I appreciate the level that patek brings to their timepieces.

  • @shrevecrumplow

    @shrevecrumplow

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for commenting! Totally agree it was a large gap to compare, but the Breitling certainly held its own! The patek is just in a league of its own.

  • @StagguhLee

    @StagguhLee

    Жыл бұрын

    @@shrevecrumplow As someone who would not have been able to tell you why one of these was a Monet and the other not, I found this video really helpful and interesting.

  • @torontowatches9709
    @torontowatches97092 жыл бұрын

    What a review! Breitling is getting back to the top but they need to make much thinner watches! This watch should have been 13MM and it would have had waiting lists for years- either way love the BREITLING, glad they are getting recognition they deserve finally!

  • @shrevecrumplow

    @shrevecrumplow

    2 жыл бұрын

    Breitling winning the GPHG with the pistachio was prof positive of how much they have changed since the 90s. Love they are returning to form! Thanks for sharing!!

  • @torontowatches9709

    @torontowatches9709

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@shrevecrumplow The pistachio or even the gold model of that watch is spectacular! Hopefully you'll review it soon, loving this channel just subscribed- great content!

  • @shrevecrumplow

    @shrevecrumplow

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@torontowatches9709 Thank you!!

  • @perfect7liberty

    @perfect7liberty

    2 жыл бұрын

    Couldn't agree more!

  • @ApriliaRacer14

    @ApriliaRacer14

    Жыл бұрын

    Bingo!

  • @niksin30
    @niksin302 жыл бұрын

    A wonderful and high quality comparison of two very unique watches. Very well made video

  • @shrevecrumplow

    @shrevecrumplow

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much! Be on the lookout for more comparison videos.

  • @22bwalks

    @22bwalks

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Nik!

  • @jzplayinggame
    @jzplayinggame2 жыл бұрын

    I think the most frustrating thing about the breitling watch is it's so close yet they were totally within their power to make this materially closer in quality to the patek: Skip the automatic and go manual and get rid of the caseback to reduce the thickness, and make the dial more legible by making the day/month windows bigger, and the chronograph subdials smaller, just like the PP. Instead, they have a 42mm diameter 15+mm thickness benemoth of a dress watch that frankly, most people would not want to wear in any dressy occasion. Oh, and make the blue leather strap the standard strap! It's stands out with the blue accents in the dial! It's like their design team got 90% of the way there and just forgot the last few very very important details. Would've bought the watch long time ago if it wasn't so damn thick and the windows so small.

  • @mcwankster-saturdaynightsp4677

    @mcwankster-saturdaynightsp4677

    Жыл бұрын

    I wear the 116660DB Deep-Sea Sea-Dweller and although it is fine you really have trouble with it around cuffs. This Breitling measures, like, 15.3? And, my Rolex measures 18 - so it is really, really not ideal for any formal occasion!

  • @michielroskam3877

    @michielroskam3877

    Жыл бұрын

    Its actually wears very great

  • @docgeo1779
    @docgeo17792 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video. Very educational and entertaining. I’m amazed that anyone could get their hands on the Patek for a comparison like this.

  • @shrevecrumplow

    @shrevecrumplow

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you George, we get a lot of very special watches here at Shreve, Crump & Low and we love to share them with you guys! Both are great!

  • @goboogeeee
    @goboogeeee5 ай бұрын

    I appreciate this thoughtful and nuanced comparison.

  • @user-pq3gf2wi7l

    @user-pq3gf2wi7l

    Ай бұрын

    😊

  • @suphiturker2948
    @suphiturker29486 ай бұрын

    Great video Brian!

  • @akcoop
    @akcoop Жыл бұрын

    the Breitling is actually nicer in person, tried it on today

  • @shrevecrumplow

    @shrevecrumplow

    Жыл бұрын

    The Breitling is spectacular!

  • @ericpignatore5317

    @ericpignatore5317

    Жыл бұрын

    I tried one on recently as well. It really is stunning in person. Pictures and video don't do it justice.

  • @patthompson1253
    @patthompson1253 Жыл бұрын

    Wonderful video guys!

  • @shrevecrumplow

    @shrevecrumplow

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much! We hope you enjoyed the video and will consider subscribing!

  • @jmmeares
    @jmmeares2 жыл бұрын

    Having tried that Breitling... it's super thick, which is it's biggest deterrent. If it came with a hand wound movement and measured less than 14mm (13 would be ideal), it would be a real winner and I would buy one for sure.

  • @shrevecrumplow

    @shrevecrumplow

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for commenting Jeremy! The Breitling is certainly on the thick side, however it does wear well on slightly larger wrists!

  • @Therealgdoesgshit
    @Therealgdoesgshit20 күн бұрын

    I’m a Patek fanboy for sure and I have to say , case design / size etc Patek wins by far but and I didn’t expect to say that I prefer the breitling dial

  • @johnbenton5102
    @johnbenton51022 жыл бұрын

    awesome video! it's a bold take to compare such different price points but it makes total sense! I think i'd still give my vote to the Patek, but the Breitling brings a STRONG fight.

  • @shrevecrumplow

    @shrevecrumplow

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks John, the Datora really took us all by surprise. A real breath of fresh air for Breitling!

  • @22bwalks

    @22bwalks

    2 жыл бұрын

    John, too fun not to compare the too! 😀

  • @0728451031548270jeff
    @0728451031548270jeff Жыл бұрын

    The Breitling is better looking and far more legible to my eye. Both do the job very well, the value like anything falls to the individual.

  • @shrevecrumplow

    @shrevecrumplow

    Жыл бұрын

    Well said!

  • @gustavorivero5653
    @gustavorivero56532 жыл бұрын

    Really nice video for everyone who loves watches!!!!

  • @shrevecrumplow

    @shrevecrumplow

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Gustavo, we appreciate the comment!

  • @ali-tal
    @ali-tal Жыл бұрын

    Two great pieces for two different crowds. The breitling is an everyday watch for all of us. The PP is also an everyday watch but for some of us

  • @rickjason215
    @rickjason215 Жыл бұрын

    Nice Breitling, but their best chronograph movement is the B01. I believe the movement on the Datora is a modified Valjoux movement. Thus the thickness.

  • @qwertyman9560
    @qwertyman9560Ай бұрын

    Not a big fan of the Patek snobbery, but man the way they engineer and make their watches, its a league above.

  • @robinbalthazar1662
    @robinbalthazar1662 Жыл бұрын

    Whats the music

  • @DennisC_X
    @DennisC_X Жыл бұрын

    The Datora looks amazing, especially for the price point. How does its wear experience compare to a Heuer 02 Monaco in terms of thickness? I know they're totally different watches, but the Monaco is also about 15.5mm thick.

  • @shrevecrumplow

    @shrevecrumplow

    Жыл бұрын

    Interesting question. They wear pretty differently but thickness wise they are about the same. Of course the Monaco wears much larger due to the fact that its a square.

  • @truxton1000
    @truxton1000 Жыл бұрын

    I am surprised that at first glance I like the look of the Breitling better.

  • @shrevecrumplow

    @shrevecrumplow

    Жыл бұрын

    A lot of people have said that at the store. Saves you a good chunk of change too!

  • @robertalexanderho5268
    @robertalexanderho526823 күн бұрын

    Have a. Patek minute repeater.... And the perpetual is also very beautiful.... But both are too complicated, me thinks...

  • @danm2089
    @danm20892 жыл бұрын

    If money wasn't an issue, patek for sure. The size is perfect, they were able to squeeze a perpetual in that size while Breitling isn't even a perpetual and its 15.3 (thats really thick). It just says the finesse is not there for the Breitling. I like the dials on both. Machine finish i can understand because of the $, I don't expected a perpetual for this price, but I think they couldve done it in a more moderate size. Even i can make a perpetual if you gave me unlimited space but thats not what a skilled watchmaker does.

  • @shrevecrumplow

    @shrevecrumplow

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thickness is one of those aspects of watchmaking that separate the good from the great! Great comment!

  • @barcleighbristow9495
    @barcleighbristow9495 Жыл бұрын

    While breitling seemed to go through a strange stage of "fashion watches" but they've always been in my top 5, while the breitling is a little to thick! It 95% there and for the price it's by far much better value! Based on the dial alone I'd choose the breitling, sorry not sorry. If I could afford the PP I'd own both but probably only wear the Breitling 😬

  • @shrevecrumplow

    @shrevecrumplow

    Жыл бұрын

    It really is great to see how far Breitling has come in terms of reconnecting with their heritage. Great choice!

  • @fearnpol4938
    @fearnpol49382 жыл бұрын

    Saamon dial?

  • @jackspade5749
    @jackspade5749 Жыл бұрын

    Put micro lens then you will know which watch polishing is the best… obviously patek… but durability i choose breits

  • @RabbitWatchShop
    @RabbitWatchShop9 ай бұрын

    The Breitling's salmon pink tone dial is preferable over Patek's dull, muted tone.

  • @richie694
    @richie694 Жыл бұрын

    Breitling for me

  • @franksanns3738
    @franksanns3738 Жыл бұрын

    It is difficult to keep the cost out of the equation when it comes to wearability too. Walking around with a item on your wrist that costs as much as a small house or a second hand Ferrari is great in normal places that you might go. When venturing around after hours, in a less safe place of town, in the subway, or even on the street, there is a non zero chance that you get rolled for your watch. Would you be out and about with hundreds of thousands of dollars of cash in your wallet? I think not. So even if you can afford the Patek, there will always be just a little resistance to wear it in some circumstances unless of course that you have a monstrous amount of money than you can afford to carry hundreds of thousands of dollars on the street. My point is, for most of us, a $13K watch would be a painful loss if something would happen but nowhere near the kind of loss of losing the Patek. I guess, I like middle of the road luxury for most daily activities and reserve something more special for more upscale occasions. For this reason, I think they both are highly desirable watches for what they bring. No losers here.

  • @PaddyMcMe
    @PaddyMcMe2 жыл бұрын

    Hmm in car Terms Patek is definitely a Bugatti, instead of custom coachbuilding you're getting custom craftsmanship. That said the Breitling dial offers the same experience as the Patek for 1/15th the price. They're both significant amounts of money but the Breitling is the price of a used car whilst Patek the price of a 1 bedroom Studio in the City... Or a 2 bedroom apartment in a little town... Unless you're a watch fanatic 2mm width & movement decorations just aren't worth that much. I LOVE watches and even I think spending more than $15-20k on a watch is lunacy unless you're so wealthy that amount is irrelevant.

  • @shrevecrumplow

    @shrevecrumplow

    2 жыл бұрын

    Great points, glad you enjoyed the video!

  • @davidobrien9362
    @davidobrien936229 күн бұрын

    Those to watches,face on square,that 1mm is lot .

  • @popalaurian
    @popalaurian2 жыл бұрын

    It must be 3 Watch in this video, Uou forgot JLC Master Chrono calendar

  • @shrevecrumplow

    @shrevecrumplow

    2 жыл бұрын

    Good pick! If we get one in we will be sure to review it.

  • @Billytheshit
    @Billytheshit Жыл бұрын

    …15.8x

  • @fez877
    @fez8772 жыл бұрын

    Patek sub dial sit lower than the Central hand sets. Prefer the Breitling over Patek in this regard.

  • @shrevecrumplow

    @shrevecrumplow

    2 жыл бұрын

    Interesting! Those small details can really be a killer to some!

  • @jonnieinbangkok
    @jonnieinbangkok Жыл бұрын

    Brietling = Valjoux movement 😆

  • @however-yh2jy
    @however-yh2jy29 күн бұрын

    They're probably both made in the same factory in China anyway

  • @shimy333
    @shimy33311 ай бұрын

    $206,000 is clown S for a watch

  • @robertsullivan4773
    @robertsullivan47732 жыл бұрын

    I'm sorry comparing these two watches for me is to much of a reach. They aren't close other than they are both watches. The Breitling doesn't even have an in house movement which kills this at the jump. Which by the way I'm a Breitling guy and initially at its release I loved the Datora but I have up on it at its price point because of the movement and how thick it was. Nice vid however.

  • @shrevecrumplow

    @shrevecrumplow

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your feedback! Be on the lookout for more battles featuring more comparable watches.

  • @charp150

    @charp150

    Жыл бұрын

    The Breitling movement is in house. You think there’s nearly a $200k difference between these watches? If you took the branding off most people wouldn’t even be about to discern which one is “higher quality”. Watches are 99% about brand perception.

  • @robertsullivan4773

    @robertsullivan4773

    Жыл бұрын

    @@charp150 no the Breitling movement is not in house its made by another company and supplied to Breitling. It's based on the 7750. Do your research before you I correct someone.

  • @charp150

    @charp150

    Жыл бұрын

    @@robertsullivan4773 this used to be the case but has not been for several years now. Both the B01 chrono and the B25 (what is in this watch) are manufacture movements. They are not based on the Valjoux 7750 as you indicated in your comment. Moreover, the B01 is regarded by many as one of the best chronograph movements on the market today. Having in house movements has been pretty crucial to Breitling’s reformation as a world class watchmaker. A simple internet search would tell you this.

  • @robertsullivan4773

    @robertsullivan4773

    Жыл бұрын

    @@charp150 I know the technical background of the B01. We weren't talking about the B01 we are talking about the movement in the new Datora which Is not manufactured by Breitling but by another movement manufacturer and is in fact based on a 7750 which they modified. Again research.

  • @Manny_____
    @Manny_____ Жыл бұрын

    You sound like Will Wheaton. 😂

  • @ashermadan
    @ashermadan11 ай бұрын

    I’ll be honest, the Breitling has the better dial.

  • @yaakovhassoun8965
    @yaakovhassoun8965 Жыл бұрын

    basically comparing apples and oranges just because they have a similar color face...

  • @coronaman8046
    @coronaman8046 Жыл бұрын

    Breitling is like the wife that you keep dropping of at the plastic surgeon and hope she looks like the girl of your dream when you pick her up!!

  • @Murph_82
    @Murph_829 ай бұрын

    Only one winner here.. ones affordable and one, most could never afford . Breitling 👏

  • @Jaxfnaf
    @JaxfnafАй бұрын

    T

  • @maestro200377
    @maestro2003772 жыл бұрын

    You can’t compare Breitling to Patek, that’s an insult to watch community… 😂😂😂 I own Colt and Calatrava, both amazing watches, but for a daily use I’d be terrified wearing Patek…

  • @raybugz9275
    @raybugz9275 Жыл бұрын

    Breitling is no match.

  • @janelavie4115
    @janelavie4115 Жыл бұрын

    The 2,9 mm difference reveals one being an automatic with a rotor and other one hand winding. Please show at least a bit of basic knowledge.

  • @abcdLeeXY
    @abcdLeeXY9 ай бұрын

    Breitling all day. Use the rest of the money to put down payment for a house😂

  • @user-hi6tp2ii9u
    @user-hi6tp2ii9u2 жыл бұрын

    このブライトリングプレミエダトラ買った、140万→外商値引きで119万、パテック・フィリップしている人間に会いたくない

  • @jeanlefranc3817
    @jeanlefranc3817 Жыл бұрын

    Just randomly discovering this channel. First thought is that the channel name is a joke. Maybe you should take advice from marketing consultants ?

  • @shrevecrumplow

    @shrevecrumplow

    Жыл бұрын

    @Herve, Shreve, Crump & Low is proud to be America's Oldest purveyor of Jewelry, Watches and Fine Gifts since 1796, with our original flagship store based in Boston with a second flagship store based in Greenwich, CT. Thank you for the comment and we hope you subscribe to the channel if you are enjoying our content! : )