funny how chelsea fans list off stats when talking about lampard or terry but ignore stats when its salah vs hazard

@beanhead5398

2 ай бұрын

U can argue the other way around

@daspeed198

2 ай бұрын

@@beanhead5398well wingers have the same role and are from the same period. JT and VVD had different roles in different systems during different eras and gerrard and lampard weren't playing the same game. Lampards maybe a better attacking midfielder and Gerrard a better midfielder in general

@5thdawg917

2 ай бұрын

There all different positions and have different roles.

@GOATZELWARDBANDWAGON.

2 ай бұрын

​@daspeed198 Salah and hazard didnt have the same role in the team. Anyone who watched football knows that. Hazard is closer to a david silva or cazorla when they played on the wing. Whilst salahs role was much more similar to e.g Sterling's at city. And they weren't from the same period they only spent two years in the league at the same time.

@Youngwithanoldsoul

2 ай бұрын

Lampard and Terry statiscally and eye proof are clearly the best ever in there position. Hazard clearly is better football player than Salah, Salah has got the stats as he’s been in the premier league longer than hazard it quite simple.

That Chelsea guy isn’t that smart. Liverpool fan bit too emotional but actually backed up his arguments😂

@yeLpy_

2 ай бұрын

Fr Chelsea fan just kept yapping with no arguement

Salah is playing in cup finals. Hazard is playing with Chunkz and Speed.

@indianbossman606

2 ай бұрын

It’s completely different levels, he was arguing with speed on who’s playing LW😭

@kitrounthwaite4386

2 ай бұрын

salah spent the early stages of his career cleaning hazards boots on the bench for chelsea whilst hazard was winning titles

@AlexTommo

2 ай бұрын

​​@@kitrounthwaite4386literally, Salah was shipped out to Fiorentina on loan because he couldn't hit a barn door with a Cow's banjo.

@theorangeman302

2 ай бұрын

Hazard was back to back player of the year in ligue 1 and wanted by every European club when salah was scraping 10 goals in the egyption league

@alving4

2 ай бұрын

And goes missing in finals too🤣

I remember when skysports used to look down on fan channels, now they are compying them.

@thatonebirtyd5058

2 ай бұрын

People tune into fan channels more than Sky regarding stuff like this so they seen the potential for more views and more money and jumped right in

@_AshJ14

2 ай бұрын

Even started doing their own fan cams after games

@Bert-lw1ot

2 ай бұрын

“Compying” 😂😂

@cavanriley7373

2 ай бұрын

Sky sports has fell off massively in recent years.

@colincolin5696

2 ай бұрын

😂😂 it’s getting embarrassing isn’t it

Hazard absolutely obliterates Salah in a burger eating contest 🔥

@user-vr8fs8gg6h

2 ай бұрын

got the whole squad laughing

@thztan7492

2 ай бұрын

Agree on that

@ayaan2808

2 ай бұрын

Had me in the first half pal

@anuragrimal5197

2 ай бұрын

had us in the 1st half ngl

@Jack_Bauer

Ай бұрын

🤬🤬

Hazard is no doubt a PL legend, but Salah is a legit entry into the PL all time 11.

@lukeyduke8877

2 ай бұрын

And hazard gets in the PL all time greats.

@TP-pq9xx

2 ай бұрын

Neither one gets into the PL XI for me

@gts8919

2 ай бұрын

​@@TP-pq9xx ok

@josephjoestar995

2 ай бұрын

Salah also has done way more in the UCL too

@Mainlyeverything

2 ай бұрын

​@@TP-pq9xxsalah has a shot at the RW spot Individually can be made an argument for him as an individual Ronaldo won more leagues though and hit his prime at RM

Alisson is not human. When someone gets in 1 on 1 against him it literally doesn't even *feel* like he'll score

@TP-pq9xx

2 ай бұрын

Had 4-5 howlers this season so far

@tryzle9324

2 ай бұрын

@@TP-pq9xx He's had 2 mistakes this season. Maybe 4 overall in his Liverpool career. Then again he has even scored a goal to save a champions league spot for us. Best keeper we've ever had.

@sIlver66916

2 ай бұрын

@@TP-pq9xx Had a howler in the Arsenal game as far as I'm aware. What are these 5 howlers you are talking about?

@user-bq2tc6dh6t

2 ай бұрын

@@sIlver66916it was two against arsenal and about 3 against city but they only scored once

@sIlver66916

2 ай бұрын

​@@user-bq2tc6dh6t They only scored one well taken shot past Alisson and he made numerous important saves like against Foden so that game doesn't really count. So he had 1 bad performance against Arsenal? Not bad in comparison to the numerous games he has single handedly saved.

Salah is not talking with the likes of Hazard anymore but the likes of Henry

@GeneralBlaze95

2 ай бұрын

Henry looooooool G/A has killed the sport

@Us3r0094

2 ай бұрын

Fr

@datboidiego9164

2 ай бұрын

Damn so he downgraded?

@user-vr8fs8gg6h

2 ай бұрын

Hazard got compared to messi, salah gets compared to hazard

@HowTo98778

2 ай бұрын

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Using 'legacy' as a criteria for judging the players is just plain stupid considering that Chelseas players have all retired and are legends (rightly so) whilst Liverpools are still current players and are still adding to their achievements. Bit biased imo

@infallibl

2 ай бұрын

They inevitably always do this..

@dragonballfanscantread2383

2 ай бұрын

Yup, very poor argument.

@bluecrasher7710

2 ай бұрын

Yeah so apparently if they are retired that means they are obviously better. Ridiculous

@davidotto9216

2 ай бұрын

That's why people called English players suck are overrated cause they won nothing on international level 😂 facts

@JayThandi

2 ай бұрын

Because Chelsea players today aren’t comparable 😂

Salah has double the goals and more assists. plus hazard is a year older and is done. mo could go another 5 years at this level.

@fredjenner

2 ай бұрын

Salah scores 6 yard tap ins from the same cross spamming and dive for penalties tactic

@nulifestylefitness

2 ай бұрын

​@@fredjennerlol... Chelsea outside the box, mazing dribble on his weak foot against City, another spectacular goal the following week again Watford or Wolves I can't remember, great goal against spurs his first season, countless gems against United, top bins against Southampton the lost goes on Behave lol

@fredjenner

2 ай бұрын

@@nulifestylefitness spam low crosses into the 6 yard box, dive and claim handballs, rinse repeat until the referee bottles it or get a lucky bounce to tap second ball in from 5 yards. Boring

@PavK-rv7be

2 ай бұрын

Depends what the question is.. two questions: who has had a better career or who is the better footballer. A lot of amateurs can't distinguish the two questions

@dragonballfanscantread2383

2 ай бұрын

@@fredjenner You're woefully wrong. You could just say you don't like Muslims.

This Chelsea bloke absolutely waffling, man said hasselbank in the same breath as Henry and said Mac came into a settled Liverpool midfield…. What you mean the brand new midfield that’s never played together before

@euganieldamiao8084

2 ай бұрын

Settle Liverpool side not midfield

@stevenb3854

2 ай бұрын

You need to have consistent parameters if you're going to have discussions like this. The Chelsea fan is all over the place. One minute stats are the reason he chooses the Chelsea player, the next debate the stats mean nothing, then he says Liverpool players come into a settled side, then changes the goalposts and says he meant that Liverpool were more settled than Chelsea. You can't talk to people like that. They have no internal logical consistency

@Brucetheguitarist

2 ай бұрын

Lol first he wasn’t putting them in the same bracket. He was literally just saying examples on why JT had a tougher era compared to now. Also ….. HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THE CHELSEA SIDE? Come on, Liverpool are definitely more settled then Chelsea , who nearly got relegated LAST season…..

@stevenb3854

2 ай бұрын

@@Brucetheguitarist What he specifically said was that Chelsea were an unsettled team and Liverpool were a settled team. That's not true, Liverpool had their entire midfield torn out, VVD was in the worst form of his career, they just had a terrible season, etc. Both teams were unsettled and it's wrong to suggest otherwise, even if Chelsea were unsettled to a larger extent

@Brucetheguitarist

2 ай бұрын

@@stevenb3854 even if Liverpool is unsettled ( which I agree due to the fact trust kloop is leaving now as well and so many contracts need to be looked at), they aren’t as bad as Chelsea. Even this season, Liverpool is in the title race and it’s a three way horse between MC, ARS, and LIV. Liverpool is in a way better state than Chelsea

One is playing for Liverpool in a premier title race and domestic finals whereas the other is playing for Team Chunkz 💀

@miamitten1123

2 ай бұрын

It’s not about where they are now

@PavK-rv7be

2 ай бұрын

Maradona is dead, what's your point?

@MH-ds4mh

2 ай бұрын

mothen olderYear 1is Hazard

@vidolocosmas1990

2 ай бұрын

When Hazard was the player of the season in epl,Salah was being sent by chelsea to Fiorentina and roma,,so whats your point

@francie6278

2 ай бұрын

I’m sorry but that’s such a silly thing to say, Hazard was unbelievable for Chelsea and I don’t think it’s his fault that horrific injuries have forced him into an early retirement

Its a shame to still compare salah with hazard, the one is still playing on the highest level and carries his team, the other is playing on the same pitch as speed💀

@danielpollock6893

2 ай бұрын

Hazard was winning young player of the year when salah was warming the bench

@mrdshadow1598

2 ай бұрын

@@danielpollock6893 Salah warming the bench? He has 10+assists and 20+goals 7 seasons straight now, Hazard most goals in a season is not even more than salah worst season, but still hazard was good, nowhere near salah. Also salah was 3rd in ballondor 2018 or 2019 I forgot

@hundredpercentx

2 ай бұрын

I guess hendo is better than zidane then since one of still playing and the other not?

@danielpollock6893

2 ай бұрын

@@mrdshadow1598 yes well if you’re talking about their age and comparing what they are doing now once hazard has retired why can’t I bring up the fact that hazard was balling out much younger than salah talk about longevity.. if you want to go by that logic lampard was better gerrard because he scored more goals and got 2nd in ballon d’or..

@GOATZELWARDBANDWAGON.

2 ай бұрын

@@mrdshadow1598 Hazard was good from 09-19 salah was good from 2015-now. As of right now there years of longevity of being top players are similar. And salah highest finish was 5th and hazards was 8th

We're all tribal as fans, but the Chelsea guy takes it to an whole other level. Most of his arguments were "I can't believe you're not agreeing with me".

@granth1238

2 ай бұрын

mostly because the conversations are so shocking. There's at least a debate for Salah over Hazard. There's absolutely zero debate for Alison over Cech and even less for VVD over Terry.

@afckajjansi

2 ай бұрын

facts. the liverpool guy literally tried to claim liverpool were less settled than chelsea and tried to pull that gimmick that macallister is better than enzo bc his team playing better lmao@@granth1238

@granth1238

2 ай бұрын

@@Hassykay3 you just made my point exactly. Liverpool fans comparing Salah to Henry, meanwhile professional footballers and managers were comparing Hazard to Messi 😂. There's levels to this bro.

@T-nc6pm

2 ай бұрын

​@@granth1238no one compared Hazard to Messi ever, Hazard is basically already forgotten outside of Chelsea fans.

Salah is so clear it’s unbelievable

@Peanutbutt101

2 ай бұрын

Hazard definitely is the better player. But Salah has much better stats, so it's how you look at it

@Victor_386

2 ай бұрын

The disrespect he gets is insane

@FastCheetah-oq6kj

2 ай бұрын

youre only saying that salahs clear because of stats. salah is a robotic winger that needs g/a to back up his performances. wingers are supposed to bring you joy theyre supposed to be fun to watch theyre supposed to make you jump out of your seat and be amazed by what you see, hazard is that. Salah is just a goalscorer like benzema/lewandowksi/aguero/kane etc. Salah is a robotic winger, im fine with a out and out striker putting in bad performances but still managing to get goals because theyre strikers its their job to score goals. Salah is a winger and he masks up his poor performances with g/a, eye test says hazard was miles better because he was a actual winger who could put a 10/10 performance without g/a

@Alfc.

2 ай бұрын

Faxs

@Alfc.

2 ай бұрын

No he isn't that's so wrong​@@Peanutbutt101

I'm a Chelsea fan but Lawrence schooled this guy on every questions 🫣

@b33tlejuice1

2 ай бұрын

alright disguised Liverpool fan, whatever you say

@ishaan7245

2 ай бұрын

bro @@b33tlejuice1 bro what 😭😭sam got cooked in every single argument. And this is coming for a neutral newcastle fan

@akmalrodzi9681

2 ай бұрын

@@b33tlejuice1bro he guy was waffling he did not represent your fanbase well

Hazard literally took a year off when Chelsea finished 10th and Leiecster won the league, Salah still got 30+ goals when Liverpool had 2 off seasons please be serious 'Hazard is that guy who doesnt have a bad day' He literally had a bad year

@tosexe2535

2 ай бұрын

It's funny bc kids like you have no idea, his performances against Liverpool in that year he took a season "off" for example were insane. But u would never know that, either too young or doesn't watch football enough. Thats why salah is so easy to praise for the guys that don't watch a lot of fotoball, just talk through his stats lol.

@luckyseshibe974

2 ай бұрын

when is the 2nd off-season

@adamg.5482

2 ай бұрын

@@tosexe2535 1 game a year , nice season

@tosexe2535

2 ай бұрын

@@adamg.5482 No he had a lot of great games, but just because chelsea was bad overall that season it might look like it. He chose the wrong team, he played with too many coaches there, especially defensive ones. If he had an attacking coach like Klopp his stats would be totally different

@hmmer3471

2 ай бұрын

He went 360 days without scoring a goal, if Salah goes 3 games he is finished

Hazard is a top top skilled player. No matter which team you support, you find his game so fascinating to watch. However, I think the contribution salah has bought to his team either national team or Liverpool fc is immense. He is a mentality monster and highly disciplined top top leader who leads by exemple.

@T-nc6pm

2 ай бұрын

It's not even close between Hazard and Salah when you check stats. Hazard should be compared to Nani and players in that league. Salah has totally surpassed him and is up there with Henry and Rooney for the PL.

@kcxy06

Ай бұрын

@@T-nc6pm stat wise Salah obviously has far better stats and I think he has reached more of his potential than Hazard, and will probably be remembered more for years to come, but if you're just going off pure natural skill, Hazard was more naturally skilled. Salah's had a better career and reached more of his potential, but Hazard was more naturally talented/gifted.

Current Premier League all time stats, Mo Salah : 154 goals, 68 assists, 252 appearances Edin Hazard: 85 goals, 54 assists, 245 appearances

@danielpollock6893

2 ай бұрын

By that logic lampard is better than gerrard and scholes then

@Footygeek66

2 ай бұрын

No its not,hazard played in a great team also. Gerrard did not. Salah is clear of hazard.

@prinavinperumal9371

2 ай бұрын

The midfield argument is a bit more harder, midfielders have more variance in responsibility and contribution, lampard was an excellent finisher who could support a striker, scholes had possibly one of the best passing abilitiesbto be ever seen, and gerrard was more of an all rounder who could do everything well but not specialise, in terms of athletic ability and leadership thats another seperate argument. Where as MO and Hazard both played wing and attacking roles, Hazard had more flare but Mo had better end product. If I'm going in a 38 game season I want the attacking player with more end product, because at the end of the day goals and assists win games.

Cant believe they are comparing the two. Salahs numbers shits all over hazards 😂

@alving4

2 ай бұрын

Salah is still an average player with high numbers

@GeneralBlaze95

2 ай бұрын

Why is it always numbers and not watched I bet you would rather pay money to watch hazard

@datboidiego9164

2 ай бұрын

In an era where Dominic Solanke and Ollie Watkins are in a golden boot race, Salah’s inflated numbers don’t mean anything. That’s why Salah was holding bench at Chelsea while Hazard was winning pfa young player of the year

@TheBearAndTheBull

2 ай бұрын

@@datboidiego9164 People come into their own at different stages of their life, Salah got better as he aged, Hazard dropped off with age.. peak Salah vs peak Hazard managers are taking Salah... i'm not saying Hazard isn't beautiful to watch and didn't create but you can't argue against the fact that if Salah aint scoring winners, he is setting them up and it's hard to turn a player like that down when the point of the game is to win not to look good.

@vhureyeweqw8808

2 ай бұрын

Numbers yes, as a player Hazard is better at everything

Salah in a different league to Hazard

@2295marco

2 ай бұрын

Yeah a league below

@yeLpy_

2 ай бұрын

@@2295marcoA league above*

@T-nc6pm

2 ай бұрын

​@@2295marco0 ball knowledge personified lmao. Go and choose any stat you want that matters, Salah is clear of Hazard the flop.

Hosts lost control of this episode and it stunk because of that!

what is the Chelea fan talking about ahaha, he said John Terry went up against the best strikers in the league and named Drogba ahahaha they were on the same bloody team

@cardamundo295

2 ай бұрын

And Drogba was dog in the prem

@clips2791

2 ай бұрын

What he said was VVD didn't play against strikers like Henry or Drogba not JT against them 😂

@cardamundo295

2 ай бұрын

@@clips2791 can name 5 strikers that van dijk has played regularly better than Drogba in the prem

@cardamundo295

2 ай бұрын

@@clips2791 not that you asked😂

@granth1238

2 ай бұрын

Probably worth listening a little better in future.

Hazard is a better player, guy was magical on the ball and glided across the pitch, nobody could get near him! Salah is more deadly and a better goalscorer though.

@T-nc6pm

2 ай бұрын

Nice pea brain opinion displaying 0 ball knowledge bro 😂 Salah is the better player, because he has better stats. End of debate.

@wrighty9x919

2 ай бұрын

@@T-nc6pm more ball knowledge that you'll ever have, the fact that you only look at stats prove that, dumbass.

@dave-ld8mo

2 ай бұрын

Better player is not the right term though. For me consistency, longevity, mentality and end product also define how good a player is. What you mean is that Hazard was naturally more talented, which I agree with. However overall Salah is still clear imo

@splashboysk4489

2 ай бұрын

@@T-nc6pmDumbest guy I’ve seen in these comments😂stats don’t define a footballer u donut

Bro said it's easy to make wingers like Salah who just get goals and assists😭💀 saka is the closest winger to Salah and still wayyy behind in terms of stats and consistent performances😂 he is young still so maybe he will get near Salah in the future but this man has been doing it year in year out for 7 years now and to be in the TOP 10 scorers of all time in the PL in probably the league's most competitive era (meaning all teams in the league are competitive and can beat one another on any given day. Don't believe me? Look at how English teams have been dominating all levels of Europe in this period - never happened before in the Pl.) Nahhh man I'm sorry but Salah walks into that RW spot in the PL all time 11. He doesn't just score loads either, he's also a creator and gets so many assists! He works well in any forward line and hardly has a game where he doesn't contribute to its outcome. Put some respect on the King's name👑

Salah has MUCH more end product, he’s fairly creative as well as being a top finisher. Hazard wasn’t always aggressive enough and was sometimes too unselfish

@dragonflame99k34

2 ай бұрын

Yes a top finisher that has the most big chances missed since he joined the premier league well done 👏

@wardaaron

2 ай бұрын

​@@dragonflame99k34 still managed to be among top goalscorer in EPL😂😂😂😂😂

@christianjones1167

2 ай бұрын

Hazard is a better dribbler, finisher and creator than salah. I’m going to use stats to prove this. Hazard missed 37 big chances in his premier league career and salah missed over 120 big chances and he’s only played 7 more premier league games. Hazard has a better shot to goal ratio out of the two aswell and his shots on average are slightly further out than salah. He is clearly the best finisher based on this stats. Salah has had 400 more shots than hazard in the pl. Salah has played in a much more attacking team too. The main reasons why hazard didn’t get those extra goals/shots. Hazard has the most progressive dribbles in premier league history, he had to get the ball from mid/att third all of the time. He basically had to get the ball forward himself by dribbling and playing one twos and then either score himself or create a chance, anyway because of him progressing so much of the play , he wouldn’t be in goal scoring positions nowhere near as often, if he did get into this positions the chances simply wouldn’t of came, Chelsea were always amazing defensively, when hazard was there but the attack was completely reliant on him producing most years. Hazard also played with worse attacking players than salah and much more defensive coach’s Jose, conte etc. Salah does have just over 10 more assists than hazard but hazard created more chances as a whole per 90 by 0.18 but players like morata, Torres, Willian would consistently miss them. Hazard is easily the more talented player in nearly every aspect. Salah is a premier league legend though and is the second best winger of the pl behind hazard since the days of Ronaldo/Henry.

@K0BRAH95

2 ай бұрын

@@dragonflame99k34that may be the case ok fair enough but at least salah gets in good positions, hazard wasn’t near as ruthless.

@K0BRAH95

2 ай бұрын

@@christianjones1167can’t use the “he had better players round him” argument, plenty players do worse when they move to a bigger team like richarlison to name just 1. Look how many No9’s Chelsea sign who flop after being at or around world class level, it’s just salah has more end product than hazard. Salah is a better player

Hazard all the way man. He basically carried that chelsea team for years. Look how Salah performed when Mane left the team.💯

The Hazard vs Salad is the worst comparison debate. The players played nothing like each other so why are they paired all the time makes no sense

@fredjenner

2 ай бұрын

Scousers trying to revise history

@adhanyuno1950

2 ай бұрын

because they both play at winger, that make sense to you?

@bsdgotnohome3621

2 ай бұрын

@@adhanyuno1950 scholes and lampard both played midfield but played completley different roles which is why it isnt fair to compare them. Same with hazard and salah. Hazard was more of a touchline winger doing 1v1 and then crossing into the box for a striker like costa or morata to get the end of. Salah played much closer to the box since firmino would drop deep leaving space to be exploited in the middle which is partly the reason why salah has so many more goals than hazard. They had completley different roles. Hazard was supposed to be the one creating the chances not neccessairly finishing them. while salah and mane were supposed to be the ones finishing the chances

@adhanyuno1950

2 ай бұрын

@@bsdgotnohome3621 but they in different team and different different manager of course they will play different role according to manager, but still they are winger, so they can be compared

"VVD would be able to go backwards, JT wouldn't be able to come forwards." That one I can agree with.

@myhatmygandhi6217

Ай бұрын

JT still clear though. VVD had no longevity.

Laurence absolutely cleared Sam in this vid and cleared him in the other vid, levels above

@granth1238

2 ай бұрын

not really, his first few calls were absolutely beyond ludicrous quite frankly. Salah over Hazard, okay there's a debate, but Alison over Cech and VVD over JT is just laughable, lets be real here.

@ws6629

2 ай бұрын

@@granth1238 I agree with VVD over JT being far fetched for sure, Allison over Cech I see an argument, yes Cech had longevity but played in very defensive teams instead of being the last line with a lot of pressure as Allison always is

@ws6629

2 ай бұрын

@@granth1238 I also wouldn’t say there’s a debate with Hazard and Salah anymore, Salah is the best prem winger of all time and it isn’t close

@matrix35

2 ай бұрын

The only two he got right were Salah and Trent Arnold. Sorry, winning trophies plays a big part in the debate over who is better so the three Chelsea legends are automatic picks!

@imRehnzy

2 ай бұрын

And what you really mean when you say winning trophies, is buying trophies, and relying on world class expensive players around you in every postion, rather than being THE guy in your team and earning half of that success. So the conversation here really is, who cost the most dirty oil money per title. And Declan Rice was an awful footballer in West Ham. But now he's great, because now other players make him look better

There's only a year seperating them yet Hazard in 2024 is hopelessly trying to assist IShowSpeed in a Charity match in Qatar meanwhile Salah in 2024 is currently Top 10 players (arguably Top 5) in the world right now and could potentially win 4 trophies with Liverpool Hazard in his Chelsea days was one of the most entertaining players in the world and on his day he was unplayable but Salah has been putting out strikers numbers as a winger for nearly a decade now and he's still excelling at the top level at 31 years old. Hazard was a phenomenal dribbler but just because Salah doesn't do as many stepovers doesn't mean he's not a better player

It’s simple: Hazard is a better footballer, Salah is more prolific and efficient. Hazard can do more things with a ball at his feet than Salah but Salah’s consistency and output is unrivalled.

@SW-by9ob

2 ай бұрын

Hazard the better dribbler. That's it.

@Alfc.

2 ай бұрын

That's so false. Hazard is only a better dribbler Salah is the better Footballer all day and every day

@LK--bq3ok

2 ай бұрын

Never seen hazard dribble past city’s hole defense and score tho have you

@tuneswarriors5874

2 ай бұрын

@@Alfc. Lol I agree with salah better.... but dribbling and passing(Hazard deffo better) isn"t a very important thing in a footballer for u apparently???? What puts Salah apart is his consistency on the highest level and his incredible killer mentality in front of goal that hazard lacked COMPARITIVELY.

@eltk1785

2 ай бұрын

One is providing assists to Speed on a charity match, the other is playing in a cup final.

Mo Salah is a premier league legend already, numbers will back him up and the great Liverpool team Klopp created will always be remembered by everyone. As a Chelsea fan, I'm sorry for all football lovers who did not get to watch Hazard play every week because simply they were not watching Hazard every week for 90mins. No one but Chelsea fans will be able to comprehend how magical and flawless Eden was for us. And I don't care about any comparisons, Hazard for me will always be the most gifted footballer to watch in a Chelsea shirt and no one will understand that but Chelsea fans who were privileged to watch him play week in and week out.

Hazard had a special unmatched flair at Chelsea 🔥 shame about his career at Madrid

@anubis8586

2 ай бұрын

Doesn’t matter lol Salah is still clear

@silver_rocket_25

2 ай бұрын

​@@anubis8586I disagree. Salah has incredible support at Liverpool. Hazard didn't have much support at Chelsea. He legit carried them.

@akashajay5518

2 ай бұрын

are you forgetting about Kante, fabregas, cahill, azpi, costa and so on? Chelsea had one of the best title winning teams in the last decade under Conte lol. Only season you could say hazard carried is under Sarri. But Salah has had two seasons where Liverpool were poor and dragged them to the top 5 both those times. His numbers are only behind henry if we take it as ratios. That is crazy stuff @@silver_rocket_25

@adamg.5482

2 ай бұрын

@@silver_rocket_25 so you agree gerrard was better than lampard then?

Salah clears. Hazard had flair, and people tend to overrate him because of that. It is the same story with Ronaldinho.

@ebz2656

2 ай бұрын

You have never watched them just say mate

@unknown3158

2 ай бұрын

@@ebz2656 I did see Hazard at my local McDonalds, does that count?

@kamsoobi008

2 ай бұрын

@@unknown3158absolutely counts

@granth1238

2 ай бұрын

you just said Ronaldinho was overrated🤦‍♂. You really need to find a different sport or join Hazard at McDonalds, football isn't for you.

@user-eq6yr8ol2e

2 ай бұрын

Hazard carried Chelsea at a period and he was arguably the best footballer at the 2018 wc🤣 watch football abeg. He’s no Ben arfa or Taarabt

To put one of the most inconsistent players in front of one of the most consistent goal scorers in Salah, with a straight face is absolutely laughable

These chelsea fans bro 😂 i buried this salah hazard debate long time ago

Prime is Hazard but the better player overall has to be Salah, the longeviety and consistency is unmatched.

@jockegamings2965

2 ай бұрын

true

@ighalogodstime6815

2 ай бұрын

At Chelsea hazard was always consistent but when he left for Madrid that is all

@yobask8855

2 ай бұрын

Prime hazard is good, but imo salah’s is better, as he came into liverpool, and scored the record amount of goals in a premier league season, 32, and scored 11 assists. He was unplayable, and obviously so was hazard, but hazard never did so well in the champions league like salah did in his prime. In Hazard’s prime, he got 32 G/A, 6 of that coming in the champions league, but he ended up getting knocked out in the RO16, and salah got 60 G/A, and 15 of that coming in the champions league, practically carrying liverpool to a final! Salah got 28 more G/A than hazard if u compare their primes. That’s outrageous 😭. I just don’t see what other fans see when it comes to salah’s prime vs hazard’s prime. Salah I think is clearly better, overall and prime

@inahsaka

2 ай бұрын

This 'Longevity' talk is so hilarious when Hazard has been playing at the top level since he was 18 at Lille lmao.

@barre3679

2 ай бұрын

@@inahsaka ”Since Lille” says it all.

CECH, JOHN TERRY, SALAH NO DEBATE ITS OBVIOUS WHOS WATCHED FOOTBALL FROM THE 90S

Sam, I liked you at FD but your arguments are terrible. Argentina’s fortunes turned when BOTH Enzo and Mac were brought into the side. Enzo won young player of the tournament but besides that he hasn’t really done much. Macallister assisted Di Maria’s goal in the final, his time at Brighton ALONE was better than anything Enzo’s done in the prem. But let’s talk about the cherry on top, his time at Liverpool. First of all he was 35 mill, absolute steal. He’s shown that he can play as a 6, 8, and 10 to a very high level or for a title-chasing side. Enzo hasn’t shown anywhere near that versatility or stamped his authority on any of the midfield positions. Finally, yes Liverpool were more settled but in the context of competing for the league (which NO ONE had us doing) we were unsettled. Macallister has filled in as a 6 and we’re currently in 1st… HE’s not even been playing in his NATURAL POSITION… Macallister is clear lmao

Obviously, it is Salah. This is a joke conversation. Hazard didn't have staying quality. Salah is miles better. 😂😂😂

@multikaspergaming2348

Ай бұрын

Salah became good very late in his career. Salah was on the bench while Hazard was the best player at Chelsea.

@mr-ov5gt

Ай бұрын

​@@multikaspergaming2348 and hazard retired after flopping in Madrid whilst salah is still class

Hazard was legitimately only a better dribbler than salah😂😂😂. Salah has better shooting, passing, more physical, positioning and footballing brain

@azuremk__3101

2 ай бұрын

@@maisonlanders3643yup. These guys saying Salah is better due to G/A numbers... When Hazard has the second most dribble completions after Messi, most PL MOTM and no Chelsea player has won PL Player of the Month since he did. The impact he had was insane - Hazard mattered way more to Chelsea than Salah does to Liverpool, and thats where the difference is imo.

@indianbossman606

2 ай бұрын

@@maisonlanders3643he is more physical, if u actually watched him instead of going off twitter agenda’s, you’d see how he shrugs off fullbacks and center halves like it’s nothing.

@vhureyeweqw8808

2 ай бұрын

Footballing brain lmao, u definitely picked the wrong sport to watch ain't for you

@Dilllll26

2 ай бұрын

salah gives the ball away so much. hazard has insane football iq and awareness, it was genuinely surprising if he lost the ball. only messi made me feel similar watching them

@Demi876

Ай бұрын

Hazard has better shooting and passing Hazard only scores wonder goals

Salah is in the same boat as PL greats such as Henry and Rooney, don’t disrespect him by comparing him to Hazard 😂

@marcelbentz

2 ай бұрын

So is Hazard

@Us3r0094

2 ай бұрын

Sarah is not in the same boat at all. Hazard is the most talented premier league player of all time

@farzadnabizada6080

2 ай бұрын

@@Us3r0094 You the real 🤡

Sam. Eden hazard that defined a position But when VVD and Alisson was used as an example who defined a position, he was like no way bro 😂

Its simple. Hazard ONLY has dribbling over Salah and thats where it ends. Oh yh he has that majestic twerk when "running" Salah clears him by so far its unreal that this is a convo honestly

@flexermc4333

2 ай бұрын

Bro hazard literally can take a ball from the goalkeeper and create an assist or goal. Its not because salah has better numbers he is better. KDB has better numbers than Zidane. He is not better though is he.

@footballtime156

2 ай бұрын

​@@flexermc4333but the thing is salah is actually better than hazard most people know this it's not a debate anymore

@vhureyeweqw8808

2 ай бұрын

Hazard playmaking skills and passing is far better than Salah unless you blind, just different IQ players. Salah is good at finishing tho can give him that

@ASAPHMARK

2 ай бұрын

​@@vhureyeweqw8808Salah was also good at that role too. Salah is in his own league.

Salah’s been at it since 2017.. his longevity is unmatched

@user-lf6go1ti2p

2 ай бұрын

hazard was at it from 2007 from 2019…

@mrdshadow1598

2 ай бұрын

@@user-lf6go1ti2p 2019 BABABHAHAHA EATING BURGERS AT MADRID

@yeLpy_

2 ай бұрын

@@user-lf6go1ti2pcap 💀

@zayn2780

2 ай бұрын

​@@user-lf6go1ti2p ahhh 2007, the season he scored a grand total of 0 goals?

@ZraxelGaming

2 ай бұрын

@@user-lf6go1ti2pur just waffling m8

Goals: Salah Ball control: hazard Final ball: Salah Eye test: Hazard Consistent: Salah Big games: Salah Trophies: about the same Reliable: Salah Strength: Salah Passing in general: Hazard 1v1: Hazard La ligas biggest ever flop: hazard Hazard was special at chelsea and best player in the league imo. However Salah plays every game without fail. Guaranteed 25+ goals a szn. Salah for sure

Fitness, stamina, goals, assists, longevity, passing, pace, tracking back: Salah. Dribbling, going past a man, being pretty on the eye: Hazard.

@Dilllll26

2 ай бұрын

thats the difference of playing with better teammates in an attacking team. hazard created more chances and his xG conversion was actually better than salah, he just didnt get tapins like salah. and you say longevity, hazard played top 5 league since 16, salah was nobody till 25. hazard was best player in france at 19

Imagine paying sky a subscription and get served up this

Hazard was more talented salah had better end product. I think both can get undersold tho. Some act as if salah all-round ability is poor which is false. Whilst others act like a large chunk of hazards prime wasn't when wingers roles/positioning were completely different. Even Prime Bale getting out G/A'd by todays wingers now. Footballs changed

@mrstandupguy

2 ай бұрын

End product? Statistically incorrect. But in terms of natural raw talent, Hazard was better. In terms of listening, in terms of adapting his game, in terms of discipline and taking care of himself ‘off pitch’, Salah has proven to be a better option long term

@TUTENSKENGS

2 ай бұрын

​@@mrstandupguyno... Salah was better at football end off. More goals and more ASSISTS than a guy thats supposed to be a "playmaker" 😂😂😂 embarrassing

@GOATZELWARDBANDWAGON.

2 ай бұрын

@@mrstandupguy Hazard did adapt his game. His best season for majority fans is 14/15 where he won player of the year. But 18/19 turned into today's inside foward type and ended up with the most g/a in the league which correlate to my point of today wingers just get more g/a today regardless of ability or who you think is better. So hazard could adapt his game, its just his lack of discipline/injuries caught up to him.

@GOATZELWARDBANDWAGON.

2 ай бұрын

@@TUTENSKENGS Solely using assists is a poor metric for "playmaking" playmaking is all creative aspects that lead up to the shot. Not just an assist. I think ollie Watkins has the most assits in the league this year. Is he suddenly the best playmaker? Salah is the better final 1/3 passer no doubt and in general his playmaking abilities have been underrated but all aspects of playmaking hazard is better.

@neutral8746

2 ай бұрын

@@TUTENSKENGS I guess Lampard is a better playmaker than Iniesta because he has more assists then

Bro why does Sam Obaseki forget about Ricardo Carvalho, the greatest CB in prem history, who brought the best out if John Terry, as well as other players l8ke Paulo Ferreira, Ashley Cole, and Frank Lampard who didn't have to do as much defending as they did prior to his arrival, also why is he forgetting Fernando Torres? He was COOKING for a good 2 seasons, and sure, injuries and other bad decisions might have caught up to him, but the fact NOBODY remembers him is ABSOLUTELY criminal...

It's not about stats at this point for me, even though most of the numbers support Salah who'd be my pick. Salah gets this on sheer consistency and not having gone missing for a season right in the middle of his prime years.

What a surprise, they picked no one picked the other teams player💀

@b33tlejuice1

2 ай бұрын

Lawrence even said he'd thinks Gallagher over szobo but still went with the Liverpool player. That's what happens when you get two stubborns fans

You're having a laugh for clicks with this title. Almost twice as many goals and more assists for Salah - no point going beyond that but any other numbers will also go that way. Hazard would have zero premier leagues in the time of Guardiola so he was lucky there.

@QaisAhmed-re9gc

2 ай бұрын

Literally won the league whilst guardiola was there n scored in both games against them 😂

@Dilllll26

2 ай бұрын

@med-re9gc yep, completely destroyed guardiola's city team, playing with a weaker team than salah had

@tariqomer4678

2 ай бұрын

​@Dilllll26 Salah still scored more goals than Hazard with a worse team last year. And this is his worst season.

It;s not even close, Salah is miles ahead of Hazard, Hazard was a great player at his best and great to watch but nowhere near the productivity or the longevity that Salah has had.

@Johnny-wh7tc

2 ай бұрын

hazard young player of the year at lille twice, since then was top 10 in the world until he was 30. salah sitting on the bench until he was 26 years old. hazard had 10 years at the top salah only 7 so far including this season

Hazard. For one season. That's it. Salah is another level

'Zizou, all the Barca players, all the Milan players said that Gerrard was the one' nah bro, they said that about Paul Scholes

@roronoalaw7772

2 ай бұрын

Zidane said it about both.

@RobPires

2 ай бұрын

You need to listen to what Scholes said about Gerrard.

Imagine trying to argue that vvd is anywhere near Terry 🤦‍♂️ Terry done it for 20 years, highest goal scoring defender, least goals conceded in an epl season, vvd has had about 3 good years in total and won nothing close to terry 🤦‍♂️ should’ve been 97 million of them lot

@RigorousExplorer

2 ай бұрын

I feel like the Chelsea guy isn't as good at arguing as the Liverpool guy, even when he is right.

Cech > Alisson (for now) JT Hazard Alexis Conor = Dom James < TAA

@MrPremiumking

2 ай бұрын

Terry is the best centre back in premier league history. Try again

@zisolo4283

2 ай бұрын

@@MrPremiumking no

“It’s like Messi vs Ronaldo…” NO SAM, throughout his career Messi has had the freakish numbers but he was FAR FAR FAR more effective than CR7 the whole time with things like G/A combined, shots per goal, key passes, etc… just far more effective with his talent… Hazard was pure talent and was mostly ineffective with the talent he had. Salah has by far the better stats, his footballing ability and evolution is massively slept on, Salah is better but Hazard is disrespected. Hazard’s time at Madrid is big hindrance, you can say “it’s cause Salah is still playing” well so was Hazard at madrid and we saw him flop massively… Salah’s never flopping at Madrid I can tell you that much… so this “he breaks the system blah blah blah” is bs, the premier league wasn’t what it is now when Hazard left.

@Dilllll26

2 ай бұрын

and what was salah doing when hazard was winning titles in france and england? he was farming in egypt, switzerland and italy.

Anyone who thinks Allison is ahead of Cech should be checked

@willbyers7233

2 ай бұрын

Anyone who thinks Cech is ahead of Alisson should be Cech’d.

@karthikraj4903

2 ай бұрын

for mental health illness

@mohammedabbas4380

2 ай бұрын

Probably Some Plastic Liverpool Fans Who Think Alisson Is Better Than Cech 🤣 God Help Em.

I can't believe this is a debate, salah has gone clear

i dont know how is this still a debate , please give some respect to Salah

VVD's peak was the best I've ever seen. For 3 years he didn't lose a game at Anfield and lost a Ballon d'Or to Messi by 6 points. Transformative, terrifying. He's a defender that plays on the halfway line, no way JT could do that. That said, Terry's body of work is WAY more impressive. VVD being a bit of a late bloomer has hampered him. If Liverpool can get a top manager in and still continue to battle for trophies and he stays another 4 years at around his current level then I think you can say VVD has had a comparable, though still not quite as trophy laden, career.

When you are concluding by saying maybe at the time they finish.... then dont compare them with current players.

This Chelsea fan is just delusional. i give you Terry. But allison is better. Mo is better.

“When games ended 1-0, they don’t end like that anymore”. Yeah thats literally the point. They don’t end like that because you don’t have the likes of Cech and Terry 🤷🏼‍♂️

1. Cech 2. Terry 3. Salah 4. 50/50 5. Alexis Mccallister 6. Szboslai

As a man Utd fan Allison is better because of his versatility and Liverpool play a high line making him less likely to have a clean sheet

Is this genuinely even a discussion? Hazard may well have had more raw talent, but Salah is far better in every way that actually matters.

One off game for it all, taking Hazard every day. Can just turn it on when he wants. But for the course of a season you take Salah. Can’t trust Hazard for a season

Hazard was the reason you would switch on your TV, MO SALAH is a great player and has much higher stats, buts EDEN will always be the one for me.. What a player ❤

As a Chelsea fan I will still pick Hazard, yes his stats aren’t as good as Salah but Hazard’s style of play is so elegant and thrilling to watch that it reminds me of players like Zola or Ronaldinho and how they used to wow audiences back in the day. Salah is incredible and deserves so much credit but if I could have prime Hazard in our current squad, I’d take him back in a heartbeat

When I saw Alisson a head of Cech I knew I was in for a bumpy ride.

@YuToobism

2 ай бұрын

I do agree it's close between them both but prime Petr Cech in my opinion is in the bracket of top 3 goalkeepers in premier league history (my opinion the best but I do respect Van Der Sar and Schmeichel very highly)

@SReilly34

2 ай бұрын

I do think it’s a lot closer than people think. But I am a Liverpool fan and I struggle to confidently say Alisson is better. Both legends tho

@GenesisSN

2 ай бұрын

Cechs broke clean sheet records, saved penalties in champions league finals and kept consistent for 15 odd years and some how them bin dippers will try argue their case 🤦‍♂️

@Narniee

2 ай бұрын

​@@GenesisSN The penalties one is so funny and ridiculous considering that he played 2 finals and both of them went into penalty shootouts.

Salah cleared that long ago Eye test, stats, goals, assists, EPL, UCL, country wise, longevity, consistency. You name it

United supporter - Stats wise Mo Salah wipes the floor. Who would I rather have paid money to go watch in their prime? Hazard all day long. Salah is clinical, Hazard was beautiful.

I feel that Salah has been more efficient than Hazard ever was. But Eden Hazard gave the team he was on that bit of magic, whenever he was on the ball, there was a great chance that he would do something spectacular. Taking nothing away from Salah, but he has just been such an efficient and effective player for the past half decade.

Salah has never had a bad season in his career so far, been consistent throughout even since his Fiorentina days. If Hazard lived up to his role at Madrid this would be a different conversation but he completely flopped

Interesting arguement for gerrard vs lamapard but the most intriguing part was when lawrence listed all on the managers and teams that wanted stevie and the chelsea dude said thats becouse lampard was winning trophies so what youre saying is noone wanted lampard becouse he won trophies or did i misunderstand

The fact that Sam works for Sky Sports is BAFFLING. He just sits there and waffles. Blud is fluent in yappanese.

hazard at lille between the ages of 17-20: 🏆Ligue Un, Coupe De France 🏆2x League player of the year 🏆2x League young player of the year 🏆3x League team of the year one of the best youngsters ever, meanwhile salah was scoring 11 goals in 2 seasons at Al Mokawloon Al Arab. hazard’s prime started at 17-28, salah’s started in 2017 just over 7yrs ago, so the longevity argument is dead. btw why is the “where is he now” only used for hazard ? no one talks abt it when it comes to players like bale, rooney neymar etc.

As a hardcore Liverpool fan I would side with Hazard as far as all-round football is concerned. Salah often looks clumsy in his touches (mainly and mostly finishing touches) and often relies on raw speed and chaos to get around. I think Hazard controls the ball much better overall. As far as goal-scoring is concerned though, there is no doubt that Salah has exploded in the last 6-7 years and there can be no comparison. They also play different positions in general

I'd rather have Salah but I love watching Hazard more. Not that easy to admit but either way numbers are exceedingly more important to me as a fan of a team (Arsenal). Give me Salah all day everyday.

That Chelsea team changed the premier league and delivered in the premier league against top quality teams that challenged for the league, as good as the modern day Liverpool are, they haven’t delivered what that Chelsea team delivered in terms of titles or stats, hands down I would pick most of the Chelsea players over the modern day Liverpool players as they actually delivered against competition that was just as good as them and I’m not fan of either.

That guy saying Cech over alisson is ironically a prisoner of a moment because he’s bringing up what Chelsea did. Player to player Cech was world class, one of the best, but nowhere near Alisson. Ali is the first goalkeeper ever in the game I’d have my confidence in them saving a 1 on 1 than the attacker scoring.

Btw about Ronaldo, he was very very beautiful on the ball til he became 30. Ronaldo was such a dribbler till he got old. Unfortunately most people only saw Ronaldo when he got older.

Hazard loves to assist and dribble more than scoring goals. I remember an open goal I think against westbrom where he even assisted Ivanovich,

Salahs been in the ballon dor top 30 for 4 years straight, probably 5 now, while hazard is in the same pitch as chunkz and speed

inconsistencies with some arguments 1st debate- xG prevented wasn’t a thing back then. hell its barely been out recently 2nd debate- john terry could absolutely play today. a very technical baller(underrated aspect of his) which would do well after pep has changed the league 5th debate- enzo was NOT more important for argentina than mac allister. prior to mac playing, lo celso was top 3 most important players for argentina. he allowed messi to be more free. mac allister somehow managed to replace lo celso and then some. he’s more versatile and he has a world cup final assist ;)

If a player can perform despite of 'the system' then he's a better player than the player who relies on 'the system'

The desperation Lawrence shows is madness. A Liverpool fan pleading his points with a panic in his voice is glorious…. Calm down, calm down!

About Chelsea fans. I think its a psychological thing. Its really heard to admit that your "reject" has become way better than any of your players in that position. Also saying Enzo is better is wild

From a liverpool fan: - Alisson better than Cech, Cech was amazing but I'd pick Van de Sar over him, all great keepers though - Terry over VVD, VVD has the highest peak, but feel like he needs a few more seasons back to his best. Terry was consistently great. VVD on form is the best defender of all time but if I had to pick him I don't know which version I'd get - Salah over Hazard, this is a stupid argument. Hazard has the flair but nothing else when compared to Salah, who is one of the GOATs of the prem - Gerrard over Lampard, Lampard is a bit underrated imho but Gerrard is the best prem midfielder of all time. Lampard was more of a fox in the box, great attacking runs, but Gerrard was better at everything else - Macallister over Enzo, close but I think Macallister provides more than Enzo, more versatile too - Trent over James, James had huge promise but he's always injured now, and the few spells he's back , he looks bad (not his fault when you're injured for so long) i tried to not be biased

Hazard was a magnificent player in his peak but this shouldn't be a debate, salah is one of the greatest prayers in the last decade

There is no doubt Salah is the best

VVD had to do more, put Terry in those Liverpool teams and there would be a drop off, the amount of one on one defending required was insane.

I love how the Liverpools fans exact reasoning for Gerard being better than Lampard is the exact things he was disagreeing about for hazard 😭

Hazard over Salah is crazy , I would even opt for Salah over C.Ronaldo in his time in M.Utd

@RigorousExplorer

2 ай бұрын

Salah over young C. Ronaldo at Man Utd is fair, but if you talking about the last few seasons young CR7 had at Man UTD(where he was starting to be called best player in the world) then Salah loses by a huge margin.

Alisson gets a lot of credit for his distribution. Like any goalkeeper he’s had his silly moments but overall he’s a top keeper. So many times he’s pinged the ball out to create a goal right away

Alisson is by far the better keeper. Not even debateable, better 1 v 1, better distribution,Better at coming for corners, better at moving his feet.