Saipan: DEATH VALLEY & PURPLE HEART RIDGE! | History Traveler Episode 232

The island of Saipan may be one of the toughest environments that a soldier or Marine could have found himself in during WWII. The heat and humidity are bad enough, but those are only compounded by the terrain features that dominate the central and northern parts of the island. In this episode, we're looking at two of the worst spots on Saipan that became known as Death Valley & Purple Heart Ridge.
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CHAPTERS
00:00 Setting up the advance on Death Valley
02:40 The views from Death Valley
09:11 Going up Mt Tapochau
11:00 A bird's eye view of Saipan

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  • @TheHistoryUnderground
    @TheHistoryUnderground Жыл бұрын

    If you've watched a few episodes and feel like I've earned it, be sure to subscribe so that you don't miss any new content when it comes out. Also be sure to check out The Gettysburg Museum of History and their store at gettysburgmuseumofhistory.com. Thanks!!!

  • @erichammond9308

    @erichammond9308

    Жыл бұрын

    My uncle was there, Holland Smith never surveyed the ground that the 27th was tasked to take, also I should point out that back then it was all open cut cane field, absolutely no cover. Holland Smith also refused to land the 27th division artillery and supplies. He relieved Ralph Smith to cover his butt.

  • @RicardoRMedina
    @RicardoRMedina Жыл бұрын

    I knew a gentleman George Feliciano, (now deceased) from Ponce, Puerto Rico who was a corporal in the 4th Marine division and participated in the Saipan and the Tinian operations. When he landed he was surprised to see that Saipan was very much like his native Puerto Rico, with the vegetation, sugarcane plantations and the humid weather. He witnessed seeing civilians jumping off cliffs and the mass suicides of Japanese soldiers whom refused to surrender. After the battle was over, he was l assigned to the aircraft carrier San Jacinto as part of the Marine detachment onboard, serving as the captain's orderly and AA gunner. He took part in the battle of Okinawa and won a Bronze Star and a Purple Heart for shooting down a kamikaze which exploded so close to the ship that it knocked him down and suffered a concussion leaving him with punctured ear drums. He said a young pilot officer on the San Jacinto named George Bush was onboard at the time he was and they were acquainted with each other because of his position as the Captain's orderly and because they were the only two Georges on the ship! These episodes reminded me of George who had successful professional career in civilian life as a Ford Motor Company plant manager on his native island. There's no money in the world that can repay these brave men for all of their sacrifices. Rest in Peace George.

  • @giustinosuarez8711

    @giustinosuarez8711

    Жыл бұрын

    My grandmother was from Ponce and she moved to NY in the 40’s during the war. As a Nuyorican who hopes to be a marine one day, thank you so much for sharing George’s story.

  • @fire1937

    @fire1937

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for telling us about your friend.

  • @beckburrows3660
    @beckburrows3660 Жыл бұрын

    I should like to thank you for your coverage of Saipan, Tinian, and Okinawa. My father served in the 2nd Marine division and never spoke very much about what he experienced other than it was pretty horrendous. He was a flame thrower and bomb detonation. Despite the carnage of war "Pop" loved the japanese people and only heard folks at home who never participated in these incidences hold grudges against them. His favorite Uncle died during the Bataan death march in May 1942 and another cousin died when the Philippines were bombed on the 8th of Dec 1941. War is awful but the history you cover is heartwarming.

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing that. Glad that I could share the experience.

  • @patrickpurdue2739
    @patrickpurdue2739 Жыл бұрын

    As a boy in the '50's and '60's I read many stories about battles in the Pacific theater since my dad was in the Navy aboard the USS Nashville, which became McArthur's flagship during the invasion of the Philippines. Reading the many stories about what our Marines and soldiers went through have really added to my understanding thanks to your explorations of old battlefields like this one. Thank you for your interest in our nation's history and the work you do.

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    👍🏻

  • @randyronny7735
    @randyronny7735 Жыл бұрын

    I watched this video and on that night's news, came a story about Saipan. It was about a North Dakota soldier from the 27th, being identified and being buried at Arlington. It is great to see a family have closure after all these years.

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh wow!

  • @ianlast6722
    @ianlast672210 ай бұрын

    Thanks for sharing. Very hard to imagine how tough the guys had it taking the Island. Never stop being thankful for their sacrifice

  • @davidgrauman1509
    @davidgrauman1509 Жыл бұрын

    I live on the side of Mt. Tapachau, right above Death Valley. It is tough to take the dogs for a short walk anywhere uphill. Still lots of parts of vehicles, old ammunition, etc. everywhere and very steep terrain. I can't imagine doing that in the heat, limited water, full packs and gear, with people trying to kill you. Absolutely unimaginable. Thanks for the guided tour.

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Really enjoyed my time there.

  • @joefrawley5295
    @joefrawley529510 ай бұрын

    Just brilliant work JD. I'm enthralled with the WW2 pacific theater of operations. Seeing it and hearing you explain it is to me priceless. Please keep up the great work.

  • @cyndiebill6631
    @cyndiebill6631 Жыл бұрын

    The archive photos and films that you used for this really help me understand what the soldiers went through. This Island is so beautiful now it’s hard to imagine what it would have looked like during the battle without those.👍😊

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    👍🏻

  • @1RiderPale

    @1RiderPale

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly! Little to no foliage back then compared to now. Clear lines of sight and fields of fire to the defenders advantage. Very tough going!

  • @carlsanders4680
    @carlsanders4680 Жыл бұрын

    When I look to WW2 history ,you are my guy. If Gettysburg, there is no other.

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    👊🏻

  • @jetsons101
    @jetsons101 Жыл бұрын

    It has been said: War is hell - - - - the war in the Pacific has no words. Thanks JD for keeping history alive.

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    Pretty awful.

  • @jetsons101

    @jetsons101

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheHistoryUnderground Freedom isn't cheap, ask any vet.

  • @ronalddunne3413
    @ronalddunne341310 ай бұрын

    Being sun-sensitive, I gotta love the bill on your cap.. don't see many like that. Thanks again for doing this series- most Americans, even those of us who are ww2 students know so little about the Pacific Island war... keep the blessed memory of those battles and those who fought them alive. All of them are gone now... but not forgotten! Seeing the Mobil station in the middle of that death-bowl was a surprise!...

  • @stevequincy388
    @stevequincy388 Жыл бұрын

    My late father served in the 90th Infantry Division during WWII. Even with all of the awful things he saw pushing all the way to the Czech border (he helped liberate the Flossenburg concentration camp and saw all of the horrors perpetrated by the SS there), my father always stated how much worse the guys in the Pacific had it. I can't imagine the hell the Marines and soldiers went through taking these islands one by one, it must have been horrific. I highly recommend "With The Old Breed" by Eugene Sledge, best book I've read about the Marine experience in the Pacific. Love this channel and your recent coverage of Saipan.

  • @olentangy74
    @olentangy74 Жыл бұрын

    Another great video on Saipan, JD. The relief of Army General Smith by Holland Smith was something the Army brass never forgave the Marine brass for. Something to keep in mind as you survey modern day Saipan or Guam, is that for days prior to the American forces coming ashore, battleships and cruisers shelled the islands with thousands of tons of ordinance. The majority of island foliage was obliterated. When the marines and soldiers came ashore, the island was a blasted mass of coral, a rock. The lack of foliage made the troops even more visible to the defending Japanese that occupied the high ground above them, and the Americans were subject to entrenched mortar, artillery and snipers. The passage of 78 years has restored the island foliage, but it hides the sheer scale of the island highlands that the marines and soldiers had to slog up and over. I look forward to your next episode, and I hope you explored suicide cliff, one of the most unforgettable places I have ever seen.

  • @jamesmooney8933

    @jamesmooney8933

    Жыл бұрын

    My father was a machine gunner on a tank. He was in the 27th Army Div. He was very angry about the relief of Gen. Ralph Smith. This is why there was little Marine presents on D day. Gen Ralph Smith was on the Battle Ship Missouri during the signing of the Japanese surrender, but Gen. Holland Smith was not invited to the surrender.

  • @olentangy74

    @olentangy74

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jamesmooney8933 I’m sure it was Mc Arthur who saw to that.

  • @jamesmooney8933

    @jamesmooney8933

    Жыл бұрын

    @@olentangy74 How are you sure of that?

  • @olentangy74

    @olentangy74

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jamesmooney8933 Well, for one thing, McArthur was Supreme Allied Commander Pacific Forces, and he was a West Point grad. The Army was to him, something he reverenced. The relief of an Army general by a marine in the middle of combat sent shockwaves all the way to the Pentagon. The Army brass was furious and I have no doubt McArthur was apoplectic that a marine would do that to one of his generals. McArthur would have had final say as to who would have been present on the USS Missouri that day to witness the surrender. Do I know for a fact that he denied Holland Smith being present? No, but I have no doubt about it.

  • @MysonKirby

    @MysonKirby

    Жыл бұрын

    My Father was in the 4 Div. 23 Reg . 42-45. He was in 4 invasion's. That Army Division should have lost their colors.

  • @AmberPearcy
    @AmberPearcy Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for taking us with you, JD!

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @davidking6172
    @davidking6172 Жыл бұрын

    That ground must have been hell on earth to assault for the troops. There is one thing being shot at but being tired from fighting up them hill's and being shelled must have been tuff as nails. Great footage as usual JD your a real credit to your subscribers 👏

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    🙏🏼

  • @gaylewilliamson9183
    @gaylewilliamson9183 Жыл бұрын

    You've done a wonderful job of showing us how and what happened.Our poor Marines🙏👍❤️🇺🇸

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    🙏🏼

  • @paulgrogan8032
    @paulgrogan80327 ай бұрын

    My insides are absolutely terrified at the thought of making a assault on this valley. "FISH IN A BARREL" comes to mind. God bless them all🙏🇺🇲. Both the Japnese & NVA were masters at getting their artillery onto impossible elevated positions.

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    7 ай бұрын

    Craziness.

  • @davidwas77
    @davidwas778 ай бұрын

    After years of not knowing anything about where my Great Grandfather served in Japan, today my mom sent me a memorial she found of him, saying he served in Saipan, Death Valley, and won 2 bronze stars and I believe also a Purple Heart. So now I can learn something about what he might’ve went through…RIP Great Grandpa. I wouldn’t be here if he hadn’t made it home.

  • @TheFreebrid
    @TheFreebrid Жыл бұрын

    Once again you do a great service in remembering these men most of my family were in the Pacific Theater I have heard stories that were very hard to listen to but then I experienced war myself and saw things like what I they saw very tough and proud men GOD BLESS THEM ALL

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    🇺🇸

  • @GhostofSicklesleg
    @GhostofSicklesleg Жыл бұрын

    Another stellar installment JD, and man thanks for the post.

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    👊🏻

  • @johnblessing2642
    @johnblessing2642 Жыл бұрын

    Really enjoying this series JD. Being able to see places that I have only ever read about is a real treat and enables me to more clearly understand what those brave young men did.

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    👍🏻

  • @dave3156
    @dave3156 Жыл бұрын

    Superb episode JD! My heart goes out to the brave men who had to fight the Japanese and the terrain that you illustrated. Wow. Amazing feat by really brave men!! Thx for sharing!

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    👍🏻

  • @darkoflight4938
    @darkoflight4938 Жыл бұрын

    Seems like an hellish proposition to climb up those hills back then! Another fascinating video, thanx!!

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    Awful ordeal.

  • @patrickmccrann991
    @patrickmccrann991 Жыл бұрын

    JD, in regards to the problems with the 27th ID and the relief of Ralph Smith, the 27th had not had a good performance record since they had entered combat at Makin in November 1942. Not only was Smith relieved, but I believe two Regimental commanders and several Battalion commanders were also relieved by the new division commander. 27th ID was New York National Guard with a great social network and this made relieving anyone difficult. It took an officer from outside to finally light a fire under the division and its performance was much better after Saipan.

  • @mark-ib7sz

    @mark-ib7sz

    Жыл бұрын

    You are exactly right, it was a country club division till after Saipan .

  • @christophertipton2318

    @christophertipton2318

    Жыл бұрын

    My father was with the 6th Marines Scout-Sniper Platoon. They had some involvement scouting on Mount Tipo Pale and the platoon took some KIAs there. That was no picnic. He had an underwhelming opinion of the 27th ID. Although, his platoon was up north when the big banzai attack took place and they were involved in that to some extent. He did admit that the Army infantry battalion caught in the middle of that attack did a decent job. Their battalion commander was KIA and got a Medal of Honor.

  • @redaug4212

    @redaug4212

    Жыл бұрын

    While the removal of many 27th ID officers was necessary and justified, the relief of Ralph Smith was not. Ralph Smith was not a part of the old NY National Guard clique. He was actually a Regular Army officer who was decorated for service during the First World War, and was given command of the 27th because of George Marshall's reorganization policy to remove NG Generals who were too old or too inexperienced to lead in combat. The tragedy and irony of Ralph Smith's relief was that while he was leading from the front and devising methods to outmaneuver purple heat ridge, his critic, Holland Smith, was offshore on Spruance's flagship conspiring to have Ralph Smith relieved without ever once visiting the 27th's area of operations to see what conditions were actually like. It's also worth mentioning that the 27th was basically operating at half strength during the fighting, with several battalions under its command either being attached to the 4th Marine Division, clearing pockets on Nafutan Point, or being placed in reserve.

  • @christophertipton2318

    @christophertipton2318

    Жыл бұрын

    @@redaug4212 What you say is true. However, your average Marine infantryman (like my dad) wasn't well versed in the politics of high command. They just saw good or poor performance on their level and formed opinions on the unit involved. Sometimes they were right, sometimes not. Leadership (or lack thereof) made a huge difference in the performance of many units. A division commander didn't have the influence a platoon, company, or battalion commander could have. My father's platoon commander was a mustang. Fought as a sergeant on Guadalcanal and a 2d lieutenant on Tarawa. He was highly regarded by his troops and his bosses which was why he was put in charge of one of the few Scout-Sniper platoons in existence in the Corps at the time as a 1st lieutenant. He eventually retired as a colonel in the Marine Reserves.

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    I still wouldn’t have wanted to charge right up that valley.

  • @BuckeyeBackyardBBQ
    @BuckeyeBackyardBBQ Жыл бұрын

    Always learn so much from you! Thanks for covering the pacific. I feel like its always forgotten

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    👊🏻

  • @froot6086
    @froot6086 Жыл бұрын

    learn new things about the second world war every day, like I've been studying it for over 12 years and I'm still learning new info from this channel too! awesome video

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks 🙏🏼

  • @gregsayre4700
    @gregsayre4700 Жыл бұрын

    JD thank you so much for your coverage of this I've had everybody in my family watch this. I can't believe my grandfather was there and went through basically hell. The older cousins I've talked to said he wouldn't talk much about it and he died when I was young so I'd never really got to even know

  • @ronalddesiderio7625
    @ronalddesiderio7625 Жыл бұрын

    I’m amazed they accomplished this mission. A debt of gratitude to say the least which can never be re-paid to the young men whose lives where thrown into this battle. God Bless them and may they rest in peace 🙏🏼🇺🇸

  • @Wreckdiver59
    @Wreckdiver59 Жыл бұрын

    I doubt I will ever get to any of these places, so I really appreciate the time you are taking to give us a good understanding of what happened there. 👍

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    My pleasure. Glad to share the experience and learn a little bit more myself.

  • @brsweeney90
    @brsweeney90 Жыл бұрын

    Those prices hurt. Yikes my Hemi would be parked and my calves massive. Another beautifully done video. I am truly impressed. I also applaud you for not selling out with sponsors

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    I have some partners that I work with and will do individual spots every once in awhile, but I’m extremely selective and won’t ever recommend something that I wouldn’t use myself. Thanks.

  • @roadlizardcu8664
    @roadlizardcu8664 Жыл бұрын

    Extraordinary difficult terrine and having forces above you raining ammunition, can't thank our brave veterans enough. You were out of breath just hiking in that humidity, those guys went through a hell called death valley for sure. Thank you again for a wonderful video. Oh, and don't watch these to see if you get hurt, it's just that I identify with your clumsy side shall we say. And when it happens to you in the same circumstances it would probably happen to me. Lol. That's why I also usually wear a hat to help soften the blow just a bit. 😉

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    😅👍🏻

  • @klausvonschmit4722
    @klausvonschmit4722 Жыл бұрын

    Check out that little traffic but, more importantly check out that stop sign!! Probably humidity sucks balls however, it appears to be beautiful country!

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    Loved it there but the heat and humidity was oppressive.

  • @phyllishershkowitz3806
    @phyllishershkowitz3806 Жыл бұрын

    The topography was so against them. Your presentation really brought this home to me. Thanks and looking forward to more on Saipan!

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @reloadncharge9907
    @reloadncharge9907 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent episode! You provided good background detail in support of many WW2 war flicks….thank you, Andrew

  • @bcnewsome
    @bcnewsome Жыл бұрын

    Great video. Thanks for showing some of the features of the island. Amazing what those soldiers accomplished. The greatest generation for sure.

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @1psychofan
    @1psychofan Жыл бұрын

    This is incredible! Imagine hauling a full pack, ammo etc, up those crazy steep hills, in the heat/humidity with Japanese on the High ground shooting down at you…then having a leader say you’re not willing to really fight? What a morale cruncher! Those soldiers deserved better! The president should have relieved Howlin’ Smith! I’d be furious if my son was fighting there and some leader basically called them cowards! Dude!! Go in there yourself! Wow!

  • @MarkSmith-js2pu

    @MarkSmith-js2pu

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s why war is hell. Be prepared.

  • @1psychofan

    @1psychofan

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MarkSmith-js2pu you’re not kidding about that! My heart breaks for the suffering those men went through. And to have a leader not respect that~wow~says a lot that they kept going anyway ~I have nothing but respect for them…and honor them,

  • @jeanineking7311
    @jeanineking7311 Жыл бұрын

    Impossible……and yet tbey did. Thank you, gentlemen. I will never forget. Forgive me for times when I have taken the freedom I have, because of your sacrifice, for granted. Thank you, J D, for making this all too real-it is awe inspiring .

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @Jacked97Ram
    @Jacked97Ram Жыл бұрын

    Excellent. Thank you for what you bring back to life. Never forgotten!

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @pm8572
    @pm8572 Жыл бұрын

    I really appreciate it when you give us numbers. It gives a better perspective of things. Great job. Keep up the good work!

  • @stephenrrose
    @stephenrrose Жыл бұрын

    Well Done JD, The Archive Film used was spot on! Plus the music. Both along with your camera work really made it come together. All I know, is I wouldn't of liked having the low ground!!!! Wow what a perspective from the top!!!! Thank you for the teachings, and keeping History alive!!!!

  • @Moredread25
    @Moredread25 Жыл бұрын

    I know it makes it tough to film, but I always appreciate seeing how places which were sites of incredible violence adapted after and are now used. There's many places which still are undeveloped, some places which have been dedicated to the memory of the event, farmer's fields and, others are now gas stations.

  • @jamesjustus6568
    @jamesjustus6568 Жыл бұрын

    We were stationed in Guam 1976-78, and got to visit Saipan and Tinian while we were there. My folks were friends with the gentleman that owned the cafe at the airport, his name has escaped me in the intervening years. He was a WW2 Pacific battlefield historian/explorer of sorts. I can remember articles he’d either written or featured him in some publication or other. He had relics he’d gathered from all over displayed in the cafe, including the Japanese air raid siren he’d found at the end of the airfield in a pile likely bulldozed when the SeaBees improved the strip. It still worked and I got to crank it. Fascinating stuff to a ten year old who never missed an episode of Baa Baa Black Sheep and lived surrounded by relics and scars of a war a little over 30 years past at that point. It had a huge influence on my already burgeoning love of history. Thank you so much for your travels and videos. It’s awesome to see places and say “I’ve been to that same spot and climbed up the same tank!”

  • @johngaines3448
    @johngaines3448 Жыл бұрын

    Hi, I am enjoying these videos about the war in the pacific. I was stationed at Andersen AFB, Guam in 1978. In town there was a series of tunnels and caves used by a japanese soldier until the early 1970's. His story was he felt shame that he lived while his buddies had died. It was reported he did not know the war had ended so he kept hiding from the americans. If you get to Guam try check it out. Keep up the very cool videos, Thanks.

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately, that cave collapsed during a monsoon.

  • @thebrokengamer8387
    @thebrokengamer8387 Жыл бұрын

    I grew up on Saipan and recently visited and man its crazy to think the same path I would take to get some good soft serve ice cream (the Mobil lol) was the same one these guys had to go through. Can’t wait for the videos on the north side of the island. That place is reminiscent of the battles anywhere you go.

  • @tommymiller3631
    @tommymiller36313 ай бұрын

    I stumbled across your channel yesterday, and I’ve been watching as many of your videos as I can. I love them. I love the way you present them keep up the good work.

  • @alanhedrick570
    @alanhedrick570 Жыл бұрын

    I really respect what you do with the History Chanel. Thank you for telling just some of the stories and the men that fault for our freedom

  • @carinschramm2380
    @carinschramm2380 Жыл бұрын

    Just spent a week in Saipan visiting some of these sites a couple of weeks ago. Your videos are great, and almost catch that heart wrenching feeling you get standing there in person.

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you like them! Saipan is quite the place.

  • @carinschramm2380

    @carinschramm2380

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheHistoryUnderground I do hope you made it up to the Pitti guns in Guam!

  • @ncwoodworker
    @ncwoodworker Жыл бұрын

    Saipan is not one mod those islands that get talked about much. Thanks JD for enlightening us about the little know facts about this strategic important island invasion.

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    👍🏻

  • @haroldgardiner1966
    @haroldgardiner19664 ай бұрын

    Bad terrain for sure! My Dad fought in the Appenines in Italy, and on Sicily! Then , of course, there was Burma too, and New Guinea! However, being strattled by heights on both sides sure must have been daunting!

  • @markpalmer6760
    @markpalmer6760 Жыл бұрын

    Great episode, you can tell from your video how difficult that terrain must of been, beautiful place today, looking forward to the next one.

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @patgriffin3928
    @patgriffin3928 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your videos on Saipan. My dad was in the Navy and was in Garapan for over a year after the island was taken. He had many interesting stories he told me about being there. Some humorous but most were about how hard it was just being there.

  • @brentsauer
    @brentsauer Жыл бұрын

    When you were at the top Mt. Topachou looking out over the beach/ocean I thought about what the Japanese must have been thinking watching the invasion fleet approach, landing craft coming in...aircraft coming in on air support missions. It had to have been such a hopeless feeling for them to look out onto the horizon and see all that. Fascinating.

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I thought about that. And no place to retreat to.

  • @XxBloggs
    @XxBloggs Жыл бұрын

    Really enjoy your video style. It’s a great watch.

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    🙏🏼

  • @michae8jackson378
    @michae8jackson378 Жыл бұрын

    THe stories I've read about Death Valley is just crazy! Thank you for sharing these episodes!

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @Jerry-fn5nx
    @Jerry-fn5nx Жыл бұрын

    Wow. Such an amazing view on that mountain. Kinda makes the island look small lol. Hats off to the marines and the army soldiers having to climb and fight their way up foot by foot

  • @765mcvb
    @765mcvb Жыл бұрын

    I am really enjoying this series Great job God Bless

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @benjaminrush4443
    @benjaminrush4443 Жыл бұрын

    Superb Analysis of those two Battle Fields. Today's people have no idea what those boys had to go through for the Victory. Thanks so much.

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    Rough place, for sure.

  • @genecurrivan2799

    @genecurrivan2799

    5 ай бұрын

    And god knows they could never repeat it

  • @benjaminrush4443

    @benjaminrush4443

    5 ай бұрын

    Yes. Thanks for the reply.@@genecurrivan2799

  • @Chiller01
    @Chiller01 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent representation of the topography of that battle. Advancing up those slopes against an entrenched and fanatical enemy was such a formidable task. Brave men. I’ve never been a fan of that high volume disparaging style of leadership attributed to Gen Smith. I’ve seen it in my brief Army stint, in the classroom and on multiple sports fields. Lee Marvin was in the 4th Marine division and was wounded in the battle for Mt Tapochau.

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @williammurphy3846
    @williammurphy3846 Жыл бұрын

    "Chesty", Louis B. Puller's brother died on Saipan. It is said that he was still quite affected bay Sam's death when he went ashore at Peleliu in September 15th 1944. As bad as the terrain is on Saipan, the terrain on Peleliu is far worse. When you go to Peleliu, you will see. The movie "Hell in the Pacific" with Lee Marvin was filmed there. Take a look at it. It shows the air field administration building.

  • @ericmailander3361

    @ericmailander3361

    Жыл бұрын

    Puller's brother actually killed on Guam.

  • @nunya4244
    @nunya4244 Жыл бұрын

    My Dad was communications personnel attached to Weapons Company, 8th Marine regiment, 2d Marine Division, at Saipan and Tinian. Really hard to imagine your dad in the middle of all that.

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    Awful. Those guys were a different breed.

  • @nunya4244

    @nunya4244

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheHistoryUnderground they most definitely were, and so humble.

  • @nunya4244

    @nunya4244

    2 ай бұрын

    @@TheHistoryUnderground I have found him in a couple of different films, it's quick but, it's him. Now I'm watching this again - not long ago I found out the names given to "the four pimples". They were assigned by Colonel Wallace from right to left as follows: 2d Battalion, 8th Marines--Bill's Pimple; 1st Battalion, 29th Marines--Tommy's Pimple; 3d Battalion, 8th Marines--Stan's Pimple; 1st Battalion, 8th Marines--Larry's Pimple." And that's our little lesson of the day. If they are shown in this video (I think they are, at least what appears to be the pimples), can you give me a time stamp for them? Thank you. We love this channel, btw.

  • @jamesmooney8933
    @jamesmooney8933 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you, for discussing the 27th Army Div involvement in Saipan. So many documents rarely mention the 27th, according to the documentary the Army was not in Saipan

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @119jle

    @119jle

    4 ай бұрын

    They all passed years ago. It no longer matters. They were all soldiers so we don’t need to know any divisions

  • @christenney4289
    @christenney4289 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing job as always. You have helped my see so much that I will not be able to see. Keep up the great work.

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @PiousJeems
    @PiousJeems Жыл бұрын

    Another great episode. My dad mentioned Death Valley and one of his friends was in the 27th ID and survived.

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @jimsilva4915
    @jimsilva4915 Жыл бұрын

    I always wanted to know the general area my uncle lost his life as part of the 27th. I never got to see him he died 18 years before i was born. Thank you. Aloha

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad that I could share a bit of it. The next episode will also feature some more areas where the 27th fought.

  • @joeritchie4554
    @joeritchie4554 Жыл бұрын

    I am amazed at some commanders who expect things to just happen according to the plan they devise. Just overcoming the terrain features would have been hard enough. Having to overcome them plus fight an entrenched enemy makes it a 1000 times harder. The fact that the Marines and Army were able to overcome both enemies in this battle makes them stand out even greater.

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    Pretty wild.

  • @bradmiller3367
    @bradmiller3367 Жыл бұрын

    Always appreciated. Some family history is in these islands and I look forward to seeing if we get there….

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @malcolmmorton989
    @malcolmmorton989 Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant storytelling as usual.

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    🙏🏼

  • @mark-ib7sz
    @mark-ib7sz Жыл бұрын

    Just excellent!! Thank you.

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @robertjessen1554
    @robertjessen1554 Жыл бұрын

    What an incredible change in perspective this video gave me. All the films we see are from the American view. Looking at the advantage the Japanese held on the mountains and ridges its a miracle the marines succeeded. The view from the top was frightening when you consider it from the enemies point of view. The marines walked into a meat grinder.

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    Always like to look from all perspectives when I can.

  • @larryburwell8550
    @larryburwell8550 Жыл бұрын

    Nice historical video of items I've never seen or rather sites I've never seen thank you for posting

  • @mamab4211
    @mamab4211 Жыл бұрын

    Incredible! 💪🏻🫶🏼

  • @MrFrankturbo1
    @MrFrankturbo1 Жыл бұрын

    Well done as usual JD

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @scottallen1228
    @scottallen1228 Жыл бұрын

    Hats off to ya, thanks for the video and information

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    My pleasure!

  • @davidbenner2289
    @davidbenner2289 Жыл бұрын

    All us kids used to play in that whole area. Ten years after the battle it became a "secret" CIA training base and complete community with a movie theater, K-12 school and snack bar. Probably some of the instructors, past combat Marines, had been involved in the battle years earlier. Almost 65 to 70 years ago.

  • @littlebitseaton2925
    @littlebitseaton2925 Жыл бұрын

    Great job as usual JD

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @pauldouglas3084
    @pauldouglas3084 Жыл бұрын

    Great video mate I love the bunkers mate great history it's good to see people keeping the history live can't wait for the next video mate 👍gust been watching we2 tv

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @dianapippin6658
    @dianapippin6658 Жыл бұрын

    First off I want to thank you for your videos on WW2. I am so happy you are getting to the Pacific Theater. My grandfather served in the Army in the Pacific and I am proud of that. I believe he served in the Philippines some and he was on Okinawa. I find the Pacific campaign a little more interesting than Europe. And the Pacific was JUST as important as Europe was. I hope you will go to Guam and Tinian as well. The Guamanians suffered a lot under Japanese conquest and their liberation is so over looked. And the contribution of the war dogs some are buried in a little cemetery I forget if it's Saipan or Guam. Anyway wonderful video I would love to see those places myself. Thank you for taking us along I look forward to each video you post on the Pacific.

  • @jay76ny
    @jay76ny Жыл бұрын

    I believe they have written books about the 2 Smiths and the difference in their characters and how they handled the situation and combat.

  • @davidknight1612
    @davidknight16125 ай бұрын

    So awesome!!

  • @vipergtsmre
    @vipergtsmre Жыл бұрын

    I dont know much about the Pacific side of WW2. Another great informative vid, JD.

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @Rebel-Rouser
    @Rebel-Rouser Жыл бұрын

    Another good video man.

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @phantomtitan9792
    @phantomtitan9792 Жыл бұрын

    This was vary fascinating

  • @Rufustfirefly2112
    @Rufustfirefly2112 Жыл бұрын

    Wish air support was more effective. What those men on the ground went through is unimaginable. Truly the greatest generation

  • @leondraw1766
    @leondraw1766 Жыл бұрын

    Just one Japanese soldier with a quality sniper rifle and loads of ammo could do some serious damage from up there let alone several of them. Amazing views you provided.

  • @jimcronin2043
    @jimcronin2043 Жыл бұрын

    If it had not been for the dust up between Gen. Holland Smith and Gen. Ralph Smith Adm. Nimitz' choice to command the invasion of Okinawa would have been Holland Smith. He was actually a very good general and had a reputation of minimizing casualties as much as possible while still taking objectives. He was a bit hasty is sacking Gen. Ralph Smith because he did so without an onsite inspection to assess the situation. He did have a legitimate beef against the Army general due to slow progress but first-hand knowledge would have probably tempered that view. Afterward, the animosity between the Army and the Marines was so great that Holland Smith could not have commanded the joint Okinawa force.

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    Good points.

  • @dangercloseusmc6902

    @dangercloseusmc6902

    Жыл бұрын

    Most people think the two branches are the same, but they are not. The Marines do things differently when it comes to engaging the enemy, as evidenced by the issues between General Smith USMC and General Smith USA. The Army's slower progress was exposing the Marines' flank, and this wasn't the first time or island this had happened upon. I think they Army overreacted and deprived the Okinawa invasion of an excellent commander. I have never liked MacArthur's arrogance and vanity, nor did I agree with his strategy in the central Pacific, namely the unnecessary invasion of the meat grinder Peleliu, but overall he was a very good commander.

  • @renatoreside2109
    @renatoreside2109 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks JD as usual for all the effort (physical, mental, etc.) you expend to explain the war to your audience. The Pacific theater was much much wider than the European theater and I wonder if you have plans to visit places like Guadalcanal. Apart from that, Iwo Jima, Okinawa and The Philippines, you could even go to Papua New Guinea, Singapore and others. Burma would be a good option too, but it may not be as accessible as before.

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @DCS_World_Japan
    @DCS_World_Japan Жыл бұрын

    Can't wait for the episode on the "last command post." There was a serious lack of literature on that spot when I went a few years ago.

  • @little.tricks
    @little.tricks11 ай бұрын

    A wide angled lens for your camera would've been prime for seeing more of the surroundings they had to deal with.

  • @davidbrooks1724
    @davidbrooks1724 Жыл бұрын

    What an epic beat down . Like you said the gear . We did 18 miles one day in fort benning . Last 3 in sand and I was dying.

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    Can’t even fully convey how suffocating the heat is there.

  • @kostekw
    @kostekw Жыл бұрын

    I’d love to watch episode about Monte Cassino, Pedemonte and Polish II Corp

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @GeraltofRivia5150
    @GeraltofRivia5150 Жыл бұрын

    Damn, I need to watch The Pacific again. Thank you sir.

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    👍🏻

  • @jaredevildog6343
    @jaredevildog6343 Жыл бұрын

    Love your videos ! SEMPER FI !

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    Much appreciated

  • @donnaoglesby1278
    @donnaoglesby1278 Жыл бұрын

    J.D. This is awesome, and makes me wonder just how any of our guys in that environment ever made their way to high ground to defeat the enemy to begin with. Again Appreciate so much the history. I am in the mid 60's and have always loved history, and THIS I was never taught when I was in school, and never heard of most of this. The Country is so peaceful and Beautiful now. Is the Island of Saipan under Japanese Rule now?? Which country governs it?? Asking cause, Like the history from WW2, I have no clue.

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks. Saipan is a US territory.

  • @johnholmes6897
    @johnholmes68978 ай бұрын

    The mount is where Lee Marvin was injured. Most of his unit were casualties of that campaign.

  • @scarecrow3186
    @scarecrow3186 Жыл бұрын

    Great video of where I live currently.

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    👍🏻

  • @4nthr4x
    @4nthr4x Жыл бұрын

    Amazing content, time and again, wow

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    🙏🏼

  • @dradden1556
    @dradden1556 Жыл бұрын

    Very interesting!!

  • @billharshaw4739
    @billharshaw4739 Жыл бұрын

    Those gas prices. Gross.... Fantastic interpretation, JD. I learned some things.

  • @TheHistoryUnderground

    @TheHistoryUnderground

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah. Expensive trip. 🫤

  • @eancurtis9333
    @eancurtis9333 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome thanks

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