I'm a retired ASE Master Technician and I have rebuilt many a Saginaw steering gearbox. It can be found in GM and Chrysler cars and trucks of the heyday of Detroit car manufacturing. It is the best design of that era, but was made obsolete by the rack and pinion. The Ford gearbox is a copy of the Saginaw: It is absolutely identical in design. At 26:48 you show on screen, "properly adjust this nut per maintenance manual". It is a critical adjustment and I'll tell you why. First the adjustment. You need an inch pound torque wrench for this adjustment. Measuring the effort it takes to turn the stub shaft, turn the adjustment screw clockwise while moving the rack back and forth over center until you can feel it begin to bind as it goes over center. This is because as the adjustment screw goes further in, the tapered Pittman gears push the piston assembly into the other side of the cylinder. The specification is for there to be an additional 12 inch pounds (if I recall correctly) to move the stub shaft over that center. Lock it down. This adjustment comes into play when the front end alignment is made. So why the "bind" in the center of the gearbox's travel? It is so the front end alignment can be set with 1/4 to 1/2 degree LESS caster on the LEFT side of the car to compensate for road crown. A modern alignment mechanic that works with modern cars that have rack and pinion steering gears might say, _"But that will make the car pull to the left into oncoming traffic!"_ That would be true with a rack and pinion car. But an experienced mechanic who had a properly adjusted Saginaw steering gearbox would know how to set the toe-in to avoid that pull. He would set the toe-in so that as the car was traveling in a straight line, the steering wheel would be 1/2 degree to the right so that any pull coming from the caster angle would be running up against the bind in the gearbox. That little bit of resistance inside a Saginaw gearbox was DESIGNED to make it possible to have a car that pulls a little bit to the left to compensate for the commonly heavily crowned roads of the 1950's and yet one that won't go over center, as long as the mechanic fully understands the equipment, knows what he's doing and properly adjusts the alignment. I absolutely LOVE the way an old Buick Electra 225 handles on crowned roads when the front end is properly adjusted, and that's because of its Saginaw steering gearbox.

@magnatron7734

2 жыл бұрын

Great reply, the B bodies of that era all rode like Cadillacs. Loved them.

@ladamyre1

2 жыл бұрын

Here's another little tid-bit for you guys who might be interested. At 14:54 you see him pop the stub shaft out of the spool valve. If you look closely you'll see it has a pin holding the torsion bar inside. It is the thickness of this torsion bar that determines how much effort, and therefore how much "road-feel" the gearbox will have: The thinner the bar, the easier it is to steer and the less you'll feel from the road. You can't see the bar, it's inside the stub shaft. Some performance cars and trucks it's about 1/4" thick, on a '68 Cadillac Brougham, 1/8" and you can park the car steering with your little finger.

@nicolasmartin1438

Жыл бұрын

Hoy cobien

@Pruczepol

Жыл бұрын

probably one of the most insightful youtube comments i've seen in a while, even though its a year old haha

@wam44

Жыл бұрын

I am thoroughly impressed by your knowledge sir. I have a 64 Imperial LeBaron. (made by Chrysler) Does it have the this same Saginaw box? I just had the box on my car replaced. I didn't ask the shop the specs. I was going to have the original one rebuilt but they recommeded a new one rather than have to deal with the possibility of problems with a rebuild. Thoughts?

Started GM dealership 1979. Needless to say we were the rebuilders of everything. I had the tools needed to do this job. A spanner wrench and a center shaft stub. You are supposed to remove large plug first, and then 1 inch nut or plug. The shaft would allow removal of spool valve while keeping all the balls in place.. Yes there is 22 balls. 11 shiny and 11 dull. Using the shaft allows you to stack the piston with balls then install in housing. Your way worked, but one ball out of place and you get to start all over again... Nice video...We rebuilt the 800 and 600 series gear boxes. The 600 series was the smaller ones with round top cover, you know the one that always leaked. Don retired.

I actually like That You Don't Use Music In Your Video's

@mgmesh8533

Жыл бұрын

Natural sounds is better than music 👍🏼

@VishalGupta-re3th

Жыл бұрын

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@pjl1919

3 ай бұрын

It’s relaxing

Irony - I am watching you from Saginaw, MI & I live 1 mile from the plant that steering box was made.

Greetings my dear friend.... In fact, I would like to thank you for this beautiful video because you never entered music...Never.. How beautiful it is to make the sounds of nature speak ❤️ and not the ugly music and song for example... We want to see and hear the sounds of the tools that are used and made 💐 What a beautiful feeling 😍😍😍...

The cherry on top was putting the original label back on. That really made me smile.

У нас в России много XJ, я сам полностью отреставрировал джип 94 года! Наслаждаюсь им! Видео 👍

Очень хорошо получилось! Ты молодец! Красавчик!❤

3:29 I've only ever seen diagrams of the insides of a recirculating ball steering box and never imagined that the recirculating ball mechanism would be a U shaped tube split into 2 halves of bent metal. Great work. 🔨🔧🔩 Thanks so much for sharing. 😎👌🏼

@phantomwalker8251

2 жыл бұрын

fords are a split tube,. that can open up,like mine did.. non power.. probably why..

Just a dude restoring an old steering box, and here I am ABSOLUTELY RIVETED. Good job, the jeep's coming along great.

@yeraldinebedoya3524

2 жыл бұрын

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I love watching a craftsman at his best. Outstanding work!

A man who doesn't waste time with words but results.

I downloaded this video and literally watched it step by step to rebuild my steering box, greet job

By far the most quality and conscientious steering box rebuild ever. Wont find that good of a job in a rebuilt steering box from your local auto parts store.

Seeing your videos gave the encouragement I needed to try fixing stuff on my car myself. Its saved me a ton of money and is so incredibly gratifying. It always leaves me feeling proud of myself and what I can accomplish. I'm looking forward to future videos!

With the proper tool, these repairs are child's play and a delight.

Would love to see all the Jeep vids in a playlist. Super amazing to see someone taking the time to restore the parts than just get new. Gives me inspiration for my project XJ. Think I'm gonna try and refresh the axles myself, using your video as kinda of a guide of sorts. Keep up the great work.

@levivaughan3434

2 жыл бұрын

While that's a decent idea, get the factory service manual for your rig and follow that, it'll show tolerances, torque specs, and more, stuff that is vital to get right

@wop60

2 жыл бұрын

What Is a jeep video?? Greetings from Italy

@levivaughan3434

2 жыл бұрын

@@wop60 the vehicle this component is from is a jeep, and this person has made several other videos about his jeep. Hello from not italy.

@wop60

2 жыл бұрын

@@levivaughan3434 thanks for explaining from not Italy

@mohamedkmc1153

2 жыл бұрын

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Nice torque wrench “ impact impact ---click”, you gotta love it!!!!!!!😉😆

We made that gear housing at Saginaw Malleable iron foundry.

@haywin4601

2 жыл бұрын

My Grandfather worked at Malleable iron & my Dad worked 38 yrs. at Saginaw Steering Gear (on Holland) plant #3... I knew I'd see someone from Saginaw, Mi. on here...

@nanogaming7949

2 жыл бұрын

From Saginaw MI as well, saw Saginaw in the title so I clicked to see if anyone else was from here.

Watching you work is so effing relaxing I wish I had the challenge and patience for the amazing work you do God bless

ОГРОМНЫЙ ЛАЙК за порошковое покрытие корпуса!!! A HUGE LIKE for the powder coating of the case!!!

Quality craftsmanship right here folks!

never saw this kind of rebuild done.enjoyed watching.thank you

As an aspiring mechanic I find this super interesting, satisfying, fun and educational. Absolutely great video! Leaving a like!

Interesting fact. Saginaw steering played a huge role in WWII. They produced many guns for the allies. Including (367,853) 1919A4 .30 caliber machine guns, (44,531) 1919A6 .30 caliber machine guns (517,213) .30 caliber M1 carbines, (13,377,152) 37mm projectiles, (148,981) 57mm projectiles. Saginaw Steering gear also manufactured components for the M3 Submachine Gun built by the Guide Lamp Division of GM. SSG produced bolt assemblies, barrel bushings, and barrel collars for the M3. SSG produced subassemblies for many other military products. They included subassemblies and components for: Amphibian trucks (GMC DUKW), Canadian military vehicles (GM of Canada), 20mm Oerlikon anti-aircraft guns (Pontiac Motor Division), 40mm Bofors anti-aircraft guns (Pontiac Motor Division), industrial trucks, industrial cranes, industrial tractors, military aircraft, military road building equipment, Export Reconnaissance Vehicles (Chevrolet Staghound Armored Car), Armored Cars (Chevrolet Staghound Armored Car), diesel engine parts for trucks, tanks and boats (Detroit Diesel Division), Army Tanks (Fisher Body Grand Blanc Tank Arsenal), Army Tank Destroyers (Fisher Body Grand Blanc Tank Arsenal and Buick Motor Division), Gun Turrets, Army and Navy Supply Vehicles (GMC and Chevrolet).

I love powder coating. It has to be one of the better tools available to restoration. And there are so many colors to choose from.

Super nice work there. Holy Smokes, that is a lot of seals! A very intriguing design.

impresionante trabajo, realmente impresionante! en verdad, nunca me canso de mirarlo! maestro, recibe un gran saludo desde República Dominicana!

I don't have high blood pressure, but if I did, videos like this would cure it.

My Daddy once said that everything that hits the floor has to be picked up eventually!! LOL!! Love your video!! Please keep them coming....

@smarthome2660

Жыл бұрын

Your comment made me remember once while repairing a watch I dropped a c-clip the size of a pin head on the same color carpet. I didn't think I would ever find it but I did & right away.

I come here for the peace and quiet…. This guy is a Jedi. Best part of the web. 👍

SALUT PRIETENI. VĂ URMĂRIM CU DRAG.PA.PA. FELICITARI

For stubborn rust on on parts I use a hot air gun used for stripping paint. That work really well and saves you the need to ruin a part👍

Nice work Sir! Youngstown Automotive Group

Thank you for showing the whole process of getting the arms off of the box too. Most complete video out there

I just watched a master class in dudeism. Loved and subscribed my guy

A little heat even from a cheap propane torch would have helped get that pitman arm off without cutting it

@roge954

Жыл бұрын

It was going to get replaced anyways. So why go through the trouble

@kalebolson9710

Жыл бұрын

Legally can’t use heat on any steering parts. It can fuck uo angles and such

@Basslicks82

9 ай бұрын

​@@kalebolson9710yeah, no, that's not even a little bit true, nor correct. You're not heating the metal to a pliable working temperature, much less a melting or bending point. You're just getting it hot enough to slightly expand and get it to temporarily loosen its grip on what it's attached to. Once it cools, it is still within spec. You can witness this happening on an alignment rack. Grab a torch, heat up all the control arms and watch the toe spread apart a few degrees... Then watch the toe "snap back" to memory as it cools like nothing happened. You'd spend a fortune replacing steering parts every time you needed to make an adjustment if you were always afraid to heat it up.

@chuckoster8221

7 ай бұрын

I agree.I used to be a motor mechanic.I was very surprised.And then what do you see,a blow torch.Had the heat all along.

@abdellahbouincha3519

6 ай бұрын

That's totally right, I don't understand why didn't he think about that easy one!

I worked at SSG for 30 years,made many dies for the pitment shaft.

@user-wt3hg5mm8b

2 жыл бұрын

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@jakewagner7416

2 жыл бұрын

The only reason I'm here is because I currently work as an engineer at Nexteer Automotive in Saginaw, which was formerly Delphi, which was formerly SSG. (and I think a subsidiary of GM along the way somewhere in there). It's cool seeing something like this pop up in my feed.

@haywin4601

2 жыл бұрын

My Dad put in 38 yrs. at SSG plant #3 (G. Case)...

Good Lord, what a complicated setup. I've never seen anything like it. No wonder you needed a workshop manual !!! Well done.

@Basslicks82

9 ай бұрын

Wait till you see the insides of a transmission.

Damn i love the simplicity of a steering box!! Damn fine job!

@cayleependerass

Жыл бұрын

Maybe I'm biased, but it seems more complicated than rack and pinion. A whole lotta extra parts that can be tossed with one of those things.

Na, the bolt had to be removed from the clamping part for the gearing! But you should have known as a mechanic that a groove is milled to prevent the shaft can slip out! Well disguised in the next picture! Many greetings from East Frisia in Germany!

Very good upload as usual. Thank You.

Nice job, I never had the patience to do it or would of as I tangled with everything else so hats off to you

@jeromebreeding3302

2 жыл бұрын

Looks pretty complicated. I'd leave it to somebody in the know.

Огромная, качественная работа! Спасибо за контент!

Little bit of heat with a mapp gas torch always lets the pitman arm come off... Anyways, you did a hell of a good job on the rebuild.

@Basslicks82

9 ай бұрын

Believe it or not, melting a crayon on the splines above the pitman arm helps too. I didn't believe it myself until an old mechanic told me that trick and I tried it and it worked.

Perfect rebuild. Better than new.

Beautiful resto! One of my favs.👍

I love you jeep videos I have a 98 XJ that needs a lot of the the stuff you've showed thank you!!!

Your “don’t @ me” subtitle had me dying!

This is the best reconditioned st.box video I've seen. Dam nice work Sir.

A rare look behind the camera there too :)

Outstanding video!

Nice set of tools also. I have several of the old Craftsman quick release ratchets and I love them. Mine are stamped Patent 1971. They are getting rare. I managed to find 1/2, 3/8 and 1/4 inch drives in good shape.

@joemuncie9187

8 ай бұрын

I bought the first one, 1/2" drive, brand new in1973. 50 years, wow.

A absolute pleasure to watch... Such care and attention to detail...

Why is this so soothing?

Моё первое впечатление от разборки этого узла: - Автомобиль участвовал в первой и второй мировых войнах, проехал 2 000 000 километров, пережил несколько прямых попаданий осколочным снарядом. Затонул в болоте, откуда его достали по частям. Автомобиль в процессе реставрации. My first impression of the disassembly of this node: - The car participated in the first and Second World wars, traveled 2,000,000 kilometers, survived several direct hits by a fragmentation shell. It sank in a swamp, from where it was taken out in parts. The car is in the process of restoration.

¡¡ Tecnología norteamericana , solida y confiable !! .

Excellent Craftsman. Great Job!

It couldn't be that old if it had a barcode label, but I'm amazed the label is so clean and intact!

@Basslicks82

9 ай бұрын

Correct. He's working on a Jeep Cherokee (XJ). Not sure the exact year, but based on the interior and more specifically the steering wheel, it looks like a 99-01.

Non mi intendo i questo tipo di meccanica ma, come meccanico rivolto verso un altro settore, direi che è stato fatto un ottimo restauro.

Nice work 👍❤️

Very detailed in restoring the engine, very useful for mechanics, greetings from Indonesia 🙏

Nice rugged Ridge heavy duty steering, I have the same one on my 98 xj, awesome video, super jealous on the rebuild steering box, came out better then factory....⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

10:50 When I watched your video, I had exactly the same idea, to polish that aluminum lid 🙂

The finished product will be stunning

Plz do more videos like this I absolutely love them bc I'm a mechanic

I genuinely will not ever in my entire life understand how people can remember every single little detail that goes into disassembly and reassembly of all these pieces and make it look so easy. I struggle with just changing the headlight bulbs in my truck cause I can't reach anything and sliding under to drain the oil I always seem to knock my head against something or have an itch on my nose as soon as my hands get grimy. Service manuals may as well be written in German with the terminology used.

@Failure_Is_An_Option

10 ай бұрын

You lack of knowledge does not increase complexity in the world. Nobody has it memorized. They know the theory of operation, and back it up with documentation. If no document exist then create it during disassembly.

@DarkFilmDirector

10 ай бұрын

@@Failure_Is_An_Option It's not naturally occurring. It's man made product of engineering that took thousands of years of tool making to attain the skillet for.

Awesome Job the best ive ever seen

@Failure_Is_An_Option

10 ай бұрын

What are you talking about? There is literally only one way to do it. Any other way will not work. You've never worked on a steering box...

That jeep is going to be perfection

I always love how your projects turn out!

This is so satisfying

Craftsman!!

Good lawrd I wish I saw this last week! looks exactly like mine!

Excellent Work Absolutely Stupendous Job Great Stuff I think I leaned something today Cheers.

Complicated but you did an outstanding job. 👍🏻

I would recommend demagnetizing the recirculating balls, ball screw, and retaining cage. Other wise they will attract all the debris in the system and cause premature wear.

@maggs131

Жыл бұрын

@Outersketcher you can buy a demagnatizer fairly cheap. I know watchmakers use them for their tools because having such tiny parts attracted to them adds an unnecessary level of frustration

@Failure_Is_An_Option

10 ай бұрын

LOL... Nope.

what did u drop the bolts in after heating them/.?? also what did u brush on the end cap?

You did an amazing job!

Great video👍

Reminds me of my 95 XJ when my son rebuilt the front end.

Awesome how to! Well done!!! You dealt with all the issues I needed help with mine. Thank you!

Wooww, verry relax video. Thank you very much.

nice job bucko, i’ve done 3 of these on my jeeps and they can be a little challenging, you have to be pretty organized. You did a great job. i’ve only had to replace the bearings once, they are robust and don’t see the kind of pressure and abuse other bearings get.

@jimknowlton342

2 жыл бұрын

The cast housing usually eggs out before the bearings give up

Very cool

Great video

That was amazing. Wow.

Very well👍great job

Excellent detailed video . Watch it . Great Video

Automotive poetry!!! got to rebuild mine too, CJ7 jeep.. thanks!!!

never seen one of these rebuilt. nice

It's been a while since I have seen a pair of spanner wrenches good job man keep up the good work

Nice lighting & camera work !

Great video. Thank you.

very nice clean job!

During WWII, Saginaw Steering Gear manufactured nearly 300,000 .30 Caliber Carbines for the U. S. Military. One of these guns in good condition today can sell for $2,000 to $4,000.

you do good work, I'll give you that

beautiful work

I’m impressed!

Sweet rebuild and rig there bud...

So COOL! REALLY COOL, AND A GIFT HE HAS TOO BOOT!