The sheer evil nature of Sharon, Eitan, Yaron, Drori etc is scary. How could u seal off a camp, allow a group that was hell bent on revenge and provide flares for a potential massacre???? This is really sad.

@suleymanderman469

3 жыл бұрын

The Phalange were already notorious mass murderers and participated before in several massacres where they killed thousands of Palestinians and Muslims like in the Black Saturday, Karantina and Tel el Zaatar massacres. All this under Israeli military arms support and training since the early 70s

@thejmenahistorian5584

2 жыл бұрын

Tel Al Zaatar was a siege not a massacre . The Palestinians camps were armed. Also lets not forget that Arafat told his fighters to keep on fighting and at certain points bombed his own people for more martyrs.

@deficrypto1234

2 жыл бұрын

@@suleymanderman469 Thats correct. Sharon knew this, let them into thé camps, sealed them off and was found responsible by thé Kahan commission. Several years later hé becomes prime minister.

@animalworld5296

Жыл бұрын

@@thejmenahistorian5584 the Phalange were not angels but lets be real, they was not the only mass murderers in that area during that period. one of the leading members who led the phalange soldiers to that camp family was murdered in a massacre including his fiancé so they were driven by revenge. the PLO created a state inside a state, disrupting Lebanese laws, they have done the same thing in Jordan prier till king Hussien had enough and kicked them out, hence why they moved to Lebanon. if we are to be unbiased both sides are responsible for the worst crimes against humanity. as for israel's involvement, it is undeniable, israel did arm south Lebanese, christian and muslim alike. even syria was allied with the phalange as some point. the Lebanese civil war is one of the most complex civil war, where friends and foes was not distinctly clear. but the PLO was at the Centre of the civil war.

@nadirrabah6756

9 ай бұрын

​@@animalworld5296"No Angels" indeed. Even though they (Kataeb Party / Phalange) were pardoned by Lebanon..... If still the descendants of those (Palestinian) refugees can take revenge (just like Operation Wrath of God) on those (ex) Christian militia people (there were some women in that militia) today?

Same things that over, same excuses and same crimes, same atrocities and the same impunity

Man, I just love the israeli use of the 'there will be an investigation'

Israel should be hardly punished for her crimes against the humanity

@exempligratia101

6 ай бұрын

The crimes of the Arab nations, past and present, have enabled Palestinian political violence and caused equally great harm on their own people. Don’t blame it only on Israel. They are just as complicit to the atrocities

@miriamjaimes8213

5 ай бұрын

@@exempligratia101the Zionist it’s evil.

@user-kk2pc7ik7t

2 ай бұрын

To be fair, this wasn't just Israel, because the Phalangists were the ones doing the massacre. Its not like Israel is the only country committing horrible human rights violations.

@user-kk2pc7ik7t

2 ай бұрын

​@@exempligratia101agreed, all of them are. Such appalling failures on all sides. Palestinians deserve rights and not to live years on end as refugees.

@dudebro91-fn7rz

2 ай бұрын

​@@user-kk2pc7ik7t Right but they're the only one who constantly get away with it

I first learned of this in Waltz With Bashir

THANK YOU

Does anybody have the DW documentary on this? It got deleted recently.

I've just read Elias Khoury's book, named "Gate of the Sun". A great Palestinian novel!

Against the grain of the IDF?

“It was Sharon who conceived of the war plan, behind which lay the idea of a comprehensive change in the Middle East: Israel would conquer southern Lebanon, join up with the Maronites in Beirut, and kick the PLO and the Syrians out. The leader of the Christian Phalange Party, Bashir Jemayel, would be installed as the ruler of Lebanon. Then-Sharon hoped-the expelled Palestinians would take over Jordan, set up their state there replacing King Hussein’s Hashemite monarchy, and give up their dream of establishing it in the West Bank.” (Chapter 4, p. 74) Bergman

@animalworld5296

Жыл бұрын

wow there is alot bs in that claim, first the PLO has tried that in jordan already that is till Hussien kicked them out , israel has being very clear about where they stand with the king of jordan he was the best they had in the arab world, second israel does not have to do anything to put a christian leader to power, Lebanon law is clear, the President has to be christian, the prime minister muslim so that is that and the west bank during this times it wasstill inhabited by Palastinian, Israel has not yet started vast settlement.

This is a crime against humanity but of course the tribunal is not made for Israelis. Eli Hobeyka, the leader of the Phalangists, died in a car bomb in 2002, 1 year after his friend Sharon came to power, to prevent a political crisis.

@mkadi70

3 ай бұрын

Actually he was assassinated by a car bomb just before he was supposed to go and provide witness in a tribunal in Belgium about the massacre

@H82107

3 ай бұрын

@@mkadi70 100%

Imagine they had smartphones at this time. They couldn’t deny their crimes anymore like nowadays in Gaza

The irony is that we get people like Bridget Gabriel putting the blame on the Lebanese Muslim radicals and the Lebanese Christian are innocent

@user-kk2pc7ik7t

2 ай бұрын

I haven't seen much of her, but she strikes me as one of those fanatical anti - Muslim bigots who push this hoax that we will all live under sharia law in the west. It blows my mind that people actually believe that stuff, but I dont waste my time on bigots for good reasons.

We're the other 2%

Did he say the entire nation was an army????!

24:34 NICE!!!! (You can't speak for them!!!!!!!!)

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War of the camps

@mich1074

3 жыл бұрын

Salemli 3a Rani Hachem

@osamaal-jundi2186

2 жыл бұрын

war of the camps happened after that and israel was not a part of it

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Allah swt

The bottom line is that this unbelievable massacre, and probably the most shocking massacre in the modern era, was entirely and purely committed by LEBANESE hands of LEBANESE people who lived and grew up in LEBANON. For me this is the most shocking thing about the massacre. Stop blaming Sharon, I guess he would be an angel if compared to those monsters who entered the camps and slaughtered unarmed older men, women and children.

@suleymanderman469

3 жыл бұрын

Sharon and Israel funded, armed and trained the Phalange since the early 70s and they executed numerous massacres with thousands of deaths before Sabra and Shatila. The only difference in 1982 was that Israeli troops were actively supporting the massacre on the ground and blockading any entrance outside the camps. And actually there are way worse massacres in the modern era than Sabra and Shatila. Not to diminish what happened

@marcushoms7581

3 жыл бұрын

@@suleymanderman469 The bottom line is the massacre was carried out by hands of Lebanese people. That's the most important point because we don't blame the instigators or supporters in a crime but the implementers.

@suleymanderman469

3 жыл бұрын

@@marcushoms7581 so what if they were Lebanese? These people strongly identified rather with the Jewish people than Muslims and Arabs. They have a strong hatred for anything Arab

@multigiant007

3 жыл бұрын

@@suleymanderman469 You can't argue with ignorant and stupid. They only see one view and that's it. They close their eyes to all other possibilities. So stop wasting your time :) It's true the LEBANESE committed the act but the ISRAELIS were there and did not stop the act. So they in turn are also to blame. Some people just don't understand that! You can't make them see reason, it's just their nature to block other perspectives. :')

@eggheaf3178

Жыл бұрын

Israel had jets flying and watching like a hawk during the massacre for refugges

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@djolivierastro

6 ай бұрын

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@Myndir

4 ай бұрын

@@djolivierastro Cool the antisemitism. Israel fights for its existence and for civilization against the Arab hordes.

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