As a deconstructing Seventh Day Adventist these two videos have been a blessing beyond description to me!! What a totally rounded and complete exegesis of one of the most foundational doctrines (for SDA's, it's part of their name) contained in Scripture. I just want share this joy with every SDA that I know who has "scales" over their eyes. Rob, may Dod bless you deeply and this wonderful "work" you are performing!! Amen and Amen!!

@rayray4192

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Beautiful post. I’m happy for you. Hope you have a wonderful life.

@TheBiblicalRoots

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Thank you for sharing that, Lincoln! God is so good to us. Blessings, RLS

@billclass5847

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*Those that profess to keep the Sabbath have NEVER kept one in accordance with Exodus 20:8-10 or Isaiah 58:13.* So, THEY LIE and think they get away with it, because NOBODY IS WATCHING. GOD IS AND HE HATES LIARS. So, tell me how after ONE time someone breaks the Sabbath, tell me how the breaking of the Sabbath is not *A LAW AND ORDINANCE (Decree) AND WITNESS HELD AGAINST THEM!* Because, Col. 2 says you were DEAD IN YOUR SINS, Sabbath keeper or NOT. • Romans 4:14 *For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:* • Romans 4:15 *Because the law worketh wrath:* • • Galatians 3:12 And *the law is NOT of faith* • • Romans 5:20 *Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound.* But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound: • • Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: *for ye are NOT under the law* , but under grace. • Romans 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, *ye also are become dead to the law by the BODY of Christ* (Col. 2:16) ; that ye should be *married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.* • Romans 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, *did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto DEATH* . • Romans 7:6 *But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held* ; that we should serve in *newness of spirit, and NOT in the oldness of the letter.* Romans 7:10 And the commandment, which was *ordained to life, I found to be unto death.* • Rom. 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. • Romans 8:2 *For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me FREE from the law of sin and death* • Romans 10:4 For Christ is the *end of the law for righteousness* to every one that believeth • Again the Apostle speaks in Galatians 5: 18 *But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.* And once more , *Well said the Apostle Paul by the mouth of the Holy Spirit , *I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.* (Gal. 2:21) 1 Corinthians 15:56 The strength of SIN is the law Gal. 3:22 *But the scripture hath concluded all under sin,* that *the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.* 21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: *for if there had been a law given which could have given life* , *verily righteousness should have been by the law.* Col. 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. • Col. 2:13 And you, *being DEAD in your sins* and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, *having forgiven you all trespasses;* • Again the Apostle speaks in Galatians 5: 18 *But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.* • 2 Corinthians 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; *NOT of the LETTER* , but of the spirit: for *the LETTER KILLETH* but the spirit giveth life. • Romans 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, *in the spirit, and NOT in the LETTER;* whose praise is not of men, but of God. • Jesus Christ is only a name abused by the Adventist's and the Armstrongites *to teach Moses* (Acts 15:-16) . *The Adventist's and Armstrongites have simply *sorely abused and misused Christ's name to teach Sabbath keeping, something Christ nor the Apostles never taught!* • The Apostle Paul condemns the Judaziers. Phil 3:18 *"For many walk, of whom I have TOLD YOU OFTEN, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the ENEMIES of the cross. • Phil 3:2-9 • 1TIM1:9 *Knowing this, that the law is NOT made for a righteous man, but FOR the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,* 10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons,… It couldn't be said any better!

@marybrosseuk2144

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As a fellow ex SDA, I am thrilled that you can see the truth, and also that you have found Rob’s teachings - they are so clear, kindly given and biblically based and sound. Isn’t it amazing to find the truth? Expect some nasty push back as you share with other SDA- but don’t get discouraged. ❤️

@rayrayuc2014

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I also grew up SDA. I second your thoughts, Lincoln!

This seems to me to your best work on the sabbath

This video is very informative. Thank you so much for this. I love Jesus teachings. Glory be to God .

It has taken me several months watching almost every morning during breakfast, but I have managed to watch all of your full episode (not the shorts) videos. I look forward to your future videos. However, I can now share my mornings with some other teachers I have left to the side while I completed this project. I was curious and not disappointed.

@swebb77

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That's quite the commitment... I just found this channel, how long did it take? (you mentioned 'several months') You must have enjoyed to continue to go that far. I enjoyed these 2 for sure...

Be blessed solberg , you helped me so much .

@rayray4192

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It’s professor Solberg. Do you know what respect is?

Thank you for all that you do.

Great presentation! I'm someone who 'remembers' the Sabbath day... I don't have any church affiliation. When we understand that Messiah IS Israel, that He IS the faithful Son, and that *we* (all humanity) are IN Christ by God's Act 1 Cor 1:30 then our faith is released to believe. The New Covenant is when God writes His Law of Love on our hearts and minds. He does that by His Spirit, 'the Spirit of Christ', 'the Spirit of God', Holy Spirit all synonymous and is the only issue. If His Spirit lives in us we are His! The Sabbath may become a test at the end that SDA's teach. Regardless,, there's a blessing in the day itself and put there by God at Creation. Jesus said it was made for us... I need all the blessings I can get! We can 'remember' every day as well, meaning that as I think about the Sabbath rest I remind myself I'm resting IN Christ for salvation! I write this on 6/15 a Sabbath Day afternoon...😊Definitely following! No one sees eye-to-eye on everything but appreciate the soundness and sincerity...

Mr. Solberg, your videos have been a gift to those of us who are walking/have walked in Torahism. THANK YOU! I'd like to contact you through e-mail... How can I go about doing that? Thank you.

Professor Solberg! God Bless! Thank you for your studies 🙏. I recently had a conversation about Jesus' death and resurrection; I was explaining the Jesus rested on the Saturday Sabbath for us but as the Second Day, their rebuttal is that of John 19 explaining a special Sabbath and not a Saturday Sabbath. I'm starting to believe Jesus was crucified on Thursday. Not that it really matters to me for salvation, but for arguments sake I'd like to know your thoughts about this taken John 20:1 as well.

The rest we have is that we are in Jesus. Nothing to do with a time period. And whatever day we gather together on,is to remember what Jesus did for us by His death and resurrection.

Rob i thank you for these teachings. Its difficult as SDA especially when the counter argument taught is that they still would teach the 10 commandments must be kept cause the new covenant is yhe same 10 commandments written the heart. This is why ..It is 33:46 taught that there were ceremonial and moral laws . They teach that the moral law includes 10 rules and sabbath and the ceremonial laws are the laws nailed to cross. Its difficult to believe otherwise once you sat under these for decades.

@frazierwoods9912

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The Moral Law is the Ten Commandments. Are you saying that this is not true according to the Bible? Honest question.

@elijahrodgers416

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Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

So now it’s optional to live under the old covenant ? How can the old covenant be an option if it’s now obsolete?

@TheBiblicalRoots

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Hi Michael. Actually what I said is keeping the old covenant _rituals_ is permitted but not required. (e.g., seventh day Sabbath, kosher diet, feast, circumcision.) I also said that keeping them will not add a microgram to our righteousness or our salvation. That only comes through faith in Jesus. Shalom, RLS

@michaelbrutsche75

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@@TheBiblicalRoots Are you saying that God permits Christians to perform the feasts of unleavened bread,feast of trumpets, feast of tabernacles, etc. that pointed to Jesus as their fulfillment? Are you saying that the Jews are permitted to continue in their round of ceremonies and at the same time except Jesus as the fulfillment of those ceremonies?

41:45 Well , you finished strong,,,strongly ironic! Romans 12:2 is very relevant to be sure. So honest question, what is the pattern of this world when it comes to a weekly day of rest?

Mr solberg, could you please explain isiaha 66:22-24 and zechariah 14:9-19 and revaluation 21:1-3 and isiaha 2:1-4. It seems the old customs will be reinstalled

@jacobsilverberg1329

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Well if the Professor doesn't reply I'd enjoy considering them with you.

@jessedonaldson2536

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@jacobsilverberg1329 he always replies and I've been waiting to hear his opinion on the subject

@jacobsilverberg1329

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@@jessedonaldson2536 👍

@joshuamelton9148

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@@jessedonaldson2536 It's so fascinating that many cults love to take Isaiah 66 out of context with faulty biblical hermanutics. It doesn't matter if you're a part of the Hebrew roots movement or the 7 day adventists or even the black Hebrew Israelites Isaiah 66 also talked about bringing back the Levitical priesthood as well. This is a problem because the book of Hebrews talks about the Levitical priesthood being obsolete.

Mr Solberg, could you explain Gen 2:2-3. The word Shabbat (sabbath) is not the Hebrew word for rest but Shabath (to cease). The seventh day of creation had no evening and morning like the other 6days, which leads me to think that the seventh day was not only a sabbath but eternal and made Holy, Sanctified because the Lord’s work was complete, good. Hebrews 4 tells us to enter into His rest, eternal life, like the sabbath of creation week, eternal.

@TheBiblicalRoots

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Hi William. We take a close look at Gen. 2:2-3 in Part 1 of this video series: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nKec0qagacrags4.html Blessings! RLS

In that first sunset, we can imagine how all creatures,including the first pair, were led by angels in an occasion of worship and adoration of the Author of this wonderful creation. God himself set aside this day, in which he completed the project of a new world. "On the seventh day, God finished His work that He had done and on the seventh day He rested from all His work that He had done. God blessed the seventh day andholy, because on this day He rested from all His work which He had built and made" (Genesis 2:2-3). This blessed and hallowed day was to be perpetuated as a memorial of creation and family, which was to be transformed into a day of celebration.

@rayray4192

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Shabbat was a temporary shadow law. It served it’s purpose and then faded away. Shabbat was rooted in deliverance. Jesus being creator saves no one.

@lincolndunstan3057

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What percentage of Christians follow the 6 literal day creation as opposed to a guided evolution, following the science.

How do you just get rid of one of the ten. Unbelievable God put remember in front of it but most people forgot it

I want you to do a video on how you figure the covenant has been inaugurated and changed

@quesostuff1009

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Didn’t he touch on that in his back and forth with David ? I assumed he pointed to Jesus being the ultimate sacrifice where animal sacrifice is no longer necessarily

Thank You for your opinion I disagree though. I think if you would do the research in Hebrews ch 4 v1-11 in KJB and also in the Aramaic English New Testament.You might give it a read, at least it could give you more insight. I thank you kindly.

The organizing principles of Messiah teachings are all based on 100% Torah. Which, by the way, Torah explains how tp LOVE YAHWAY, Not with legalized structures, but of the heart, HIS heart. As demonstrated by the Messiah. HAL LA UH YAH

I liked to listen to how you present the beauty of keeping a Sabbath. But by the very meaning of the name of the day if I were reading it as a Basic instruction before leaving earth I would say God meant for me to observe the 7 th day. And olam does mean forever or for a long time. So it looks like it’s either reestablished in the world to come or still standing Isaiah 66. It seems consistent with what we know about the nature of God, ( a never changing God) to believe it’s still standing. I believe that for such an important commandment as this one is in the first half of our book to change it would also require two witnesses to establish it from the Torah or prophets. Where are my two witnesses? I don’t believe keeping Sabbath or any of the other commandment can save us now nor could it ever. But I believe the Bible tells us that it shows God that we love him. He said, “If you love me you will keep my commandments.” That said, if we have no regard for what he has asked us to do it might be a strong indicator that we don’t really love him. I do like to listen to you. You seem very respectful and kind. And it helps me think about things I had not previously considered.

Hebrews 8:13 (ESV): 13 In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

@salpezzino7803

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the 10 Commandments are not a Covenant. Too Funny

@rayray4192

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@@salpezzino7803 you embarrass yourself with each post. Your golden calf idol, the Decalogue, was the words of the covenant. The ten sayings were the executive summary of the entire book of Jewish law. The table of contents of the whole book. When the entire Jewish system of sacrifice and rituals became weak, useless, and obsolete, the Decalogue also became weak, useless, and obsolete. New covenant new creations in Christ don’t need words of death written on stone. You are weak and useless, except for a little comedy with your ridiculous arrogance and ignorance. The Decalogue was the heart and soul of the old covenant. It doesn’t remain when the covenant is over.

@jacobsilverberg1329

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@@salpezzino7803 _"And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments."_ Exodus 34:28

@terrygreenman1540

Ай бұрын

@@salpezzino7803 . The Ten commandments are the Old Covenant: Exodus 34:27-28 The Old Covenant was abolished: Hebrews 8:13 The Ten Commandments are Therefore abolished!

@salpezzino7803

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@@terrygreenman1540 sorry, Nope. They are not the same as the law of Moses. The 10 were written with the finger of God, the law of Moses was given to Moses by Angels. Big difference The 10 were kept Inside the Ark of the Covenant, the law of Moses were Outside Big Difference You as Rob teach antinomianism, which is Heresy. Adam Clarke held, "The Gospel proclaims liberty from the ceremonial law, but binds you still faster under the moral law. To be freed from the ceremonial law is the Gospel liberty; to pretend freedom from the moral law is Antinomianism."

Why did you wait until sabbath to mow the old lady's lawn? Last summer I caught a couple of LDS kids failing to reach an old lady who lived in the neighborhood. Before they left I pointed out the height of the grass they were wading through and convinced them to come back the next day to mow it😂

@vernmiroth1626

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Because that's the only way the scenario works in Mr Solbergs view

@tbishop4961

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@@vernmiroth1626 life is so strange. People change🤷‍♂️

Luke 23.56

Isnt this celebration on Sat a "man made" tradition what was wrong with Sat

Is the shadow that represented Jesus as the Messiah, prohibited or forbidden to perform for New Testament believers?

@susanhaymon8840

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Watch the video and you will find your answer

@rayray4192

Ай бұрын

The shadow is non existent.

@michaelbrutsche75

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@@susanhaymon8840 What’s your answer?

@michaelbrutsche75

Ай бұрын

@@susanhaymon8840 I watched the video, would you be so kind to tell me what your answer is and what you heard ?

@TheBiblicalRoots

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Not at all! It won't add anything to our righteousness, and it is not a requirement of obedience or salvation, but followers of Jesus are free to keep the seventh day Sabbath if we choose. Blessings, RLS

Here is a question: Do Hebrew roots/Torah keepers say Jesus sinned because he healed people on the Sabath? I was told that by a Torah keeper.

@salpezzino7803

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So called christians said the same right here

@TheBiblicalRoots

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Hi, Jason! Personally, I've never heard a Torah-keeper say that. But it's not out of the question that some on the more extreme end of the spectrum might hold that view. RLS

@AProdigalSonReturned

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To the majority, no. Jesus broke the man made traditions of the Pharisees purposefully to show them their disobedience. Jesus said it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath. There is no command that goes against loving your neighbor as yourself, nor is there one against loving God with all of your heart. This is why the priests ministered in the temple on the Sabbath: God's law says to. An example of Jesus correcting the Pharisees is: Matthew 15:1-3 [1]Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying, [2]Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread. [3]But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? Matthew 15:8-9 [8]This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. [9]But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. I skipped a few verses for brevity. This is the same chapter where people say Jesus did away with the food laws, even though He is preaching obedience to God's law (a.k.a. the law of Moses) rather than men teaching their own laws. Back to what Jesus said, it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath. Paul says this: Romans 7:12 [12]Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good. Mr. Solberg followed what Jesus said about mercy rather than sacrifice back to Hosea, but it goes back to Saul in 1 Samuel 15. Saul disobeyed God and gave excuses, keeping the animals to sacrifice to God and sparing Agag. He told Samuel that he had been obedient. Samuel tells Saul: 1 Samuel 15:22-23 [22]And Samuel said, Hath the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams. [23]For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king. To obey is better than sacrifice. This lines up perfectly with what Mr. Solberg neglected to read in Hosea. Hosea 6:4-7 [4]O Ephraim, what shall I do unto thee? O Judah, what shall I do unto thee? for your goodness is as a morning cloud, and as the early dew it goeth away. [5]Therefore have I hewed them by the prophets; I have slain them by the words of my mouth: and thy judgments are as the light that goeth forth. [6]For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings. [7]But they like men have transgressed the covenant: there have they dealt treacherously against me. This also lines up perfectly with what Jesus said. The Pharisees were condemning people based on their commands, not God's. Professing to be obedient, but rebelling instead.

God looked at everything He had made, and„ behold, they were very good”. Gradually, the sun set, which marked the beginning of the seventh day. We could not believe that, at the close of the week of a new creation, the God of beauty would not have celebrated this great event. For this reason, (I believe) in the outpouring of the sunset, choirs of angels sang a song of praise for all that had been created. Even though the sun was setting, in the presence of the Creator and His angels, it was not night.„ When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy” (Job 38,7) In the glory and unimaginable freshness, the Sabbath and the first wedding of the most beautiful couple took place. All nature was in celebration.These two are the most attacked by satan's tools!

Isaiah 66:23 (KJV) And it shall come to pass, [that] from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD. Many other verses speak of the end days about all other nations shall keep and worship on the Sabbath and all the Holy days . Read it for yourselves.

@lesliemagby8445

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This is true olam does mean forever or for a long time. It seems pretty consistent with Isaiah 66:23. His law either is reestablished or is still standing during this period of time. Understanding it from the perspective of still standing, is in keeping with our perspective of a never changing God. I did enjoy the beauty in which you expressed how our attitude and perspective should be before our King. He is great and greatly to be praised! Blessed be His name! I can’t wait to get in a world where everything is about His truth . I can’t imagine anyone feeling differently in this day and time where there seems to be so precious little of it. We will understand it then, right!!!!

@jimharmon2300

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@@lesliemagby8445 What I have seen is Jesus spoke against the the religious leaders of the day adding to the law to make it a burden to keep . Now religious leaders of today take away from the law . With both they are defiling the law of GOD .

Jeremiah 31:31-34 (ESV): The New Covenant 31 “Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah, 32 not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, my covenant that they broke, though I was their husband, declares the Lord. 33 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 34 And no longer shall each one teach his neighbor and each his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest, declares the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.”

@salpezzino7803

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the 10 Commandments are not a Covenant. Too Funny

Why dont we celebrate on Sat as God intended but excuse the celebration on Sun. This makes no sense why we celebrate on Sun. What was wrong with celebrating it on Sat.

Now we can keep the obsolete old covenant if we don’t do it legalistically, we can keep it even though it was nailed to the cross and vanished away, this is very interesting!

@williamdecamp7343

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When were you an Israelite? I’ve never been an Israelite or a Jew but a Gentile and no Gentile ever received the law Acts 15. Christian’s are to keep the law of Christ

@salpezzino7803

Ай бұрын

that was the law of Moses, Not the 10 Commandments

@salpezzino7803

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@@williamdecamp7343 you still are under the 10 Commandments.

Claim: "It doesn't matter which day you keep, just as long as you keep one." Answer: Really? Then why did God create "the" Sabbath day? Why did God bless "the" seventh day? Why did God sanctify "the" seventh day? Why did God call the 7th day "My" Sabbath day, and "My" holy day? Why did God command His people to remember to rest on "the" seventh day (Exodus 20:8-11)? Notice God did not say "Remember one day out of seven, to keep it holy!" No. He did say, "Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy." If the Law of God is something we are to recognize as merely good advice while retaining an inability to follow its precepts, we might more appropriately title that Law, "The Ten Suggestions." Each one of God's Ten Commandments is very specific. Nothing is left to chance. Nothing is confused, not according to the scripture evidence. There is, of course, no technical difference between one day of the week and another, they are each 24 hours long, except that God said that we are to keep one specific day. This, like the tree of life versus the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the Garden of Eden, is a simple test of loyalty to God. If all the days are the same, why not keep the one God said to? If we are going to keep a day holy, why not God's day?

@6969smurfy

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Thy Deciever has whisper in Thy ear, LAW, call it Law, not Torah. It all started with a word. And all the Deciever does, is put Different definitions forward to Thy Words spoken. It truly is that simple to sway man...

37:34 = Deut 29:19

For gentiles Act 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.

@chucksmith4624

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The Adventists and their like are so deceptive. They will tell you that the Law of Moses doesn't include the Sabbath. But, they know they are lying when they say it. Because as soon as they read Acts 15:21 *they immediately say it means that the Gentiles WERE TO LEARN MOSES at the synagogues!** Acts 15:21 does not say at all what Adventists and their like *claim to send to Gentile Christians to Jewish Synagogue to learn Moses!* The entire chapter of Acts 15 and most of Acts 16 is a condemnation of the abuse of Christ's name and gospel to preach MOSES! Every sentence in every verse and every word of Acts 15 is condemnation of those who would dare preach Moses to the Gentile Christians. *In fact they very reason why the Apostles wrote letters, is because the Jews were preaching MOSES! So, the Apostles sent out a DECREE, telling the Jewish Christians not to pester, nag or intimidate the Gentile Christians that were coming to Christ, by faith!* And the decree from the Apostles and bishops of the Church is a direct commandment by the Holy Spirit (God Almighty) to leave the Gentiles ALONE, who are coming to Christ in writing! Moreover, once more, the Adventist say Moses' Law is all *"CEREMONIAL"* and Done Away at the cross! Once again, I catch them in their own deceptive practices! It goes to show how everyone that the SDA all know they are lying when they say the 10 commandments are part of the law of Moses! They all are so dishonest! How do they live with themselves?! *Acts 15:21 does not say at all what Adventists and their like claim to send to Gentile Christians to Jewish Synagogue to learn Moses!* The entire chapter of Acts 15 and most of Acts 16 is a condemnation of the abuse of Christ's name and gospel to preach MOSES! Every sentence in every verse and every word of Acts 15 is condemnation of those who would dare preach Moses to the Gentile Christians. Moreover, once more, the Adventist say Moses' Law is all *"CEREMONIAL"* and Done Away at the cross! Once again, I catch them in their own deceptive practices! It goes to show how everyone that the SDA all know they are lying when they say the 10 commandments are part of the law of Moses! They all are so dishonest! How do they live with themselves?!

@indo3052

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@@chucksmith4624 the context for acts is right there in verse 1. Men were teaching that you must get circumcised first when coming into the faith. They were teaching against God's law

If legalism could make a man holy the Pharisees and teachers of the Law would have been the most righteous men that ever lived, but the Lord rebuked them in Matthew 23.

@Vincent-gc3cu

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Law + Grace = Holiness We can not keep the law without the Holy Spirit. Once we are Born Again of the Spirit, then we can keep the law, and be Holy. 1 John 3:9 Whosoever is Born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

@MrGaines

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@@Vincent-gc3cusin is simply missing the mark. We are no longer under the Levitical priesthood laws. We are under the laws of Jesus in the priesthood of Judah. There is a change and Jesus showed many demonstrations of the changes to come. Sin is now missing the mark according to the covenant God made with us through Jesus. “Now if perfection had been attainable through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need would there have been for another priest to arise after the order of Melchizedek, rather than one named after the order of Aaron? For when there is a change in the priesthood, there is necessarily a change in the law as well.” ‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭7‬:‭11‬-‭12‬ ‭ No christians believes that God has no laws, we just believe that the laws he wants us to keep and follow are the ones Jesus and his disciples demonstrated for us to follow. The ones we don’t want to follow are the ones that was spoken to not follow. Who am I to go against Jesus

@rayray4192

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@@Vincent-gc3cuyou are a sinner. You sin in thought, motive, and intention. Say you aren’t a sinner and you lie

@rayray4192

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@@MrGainessin is lawlessness and missing the mark of the glorious standard of Jesus. Sin in the new covenant is breaking the law of Christ. The law of Christ is to love perfectly. We are all messed up. Some of the most messed up people on earth are religious people. It’s ok to be messed up. Jesus loves messed up people. Your statement is true. I wholeheartedly agree.

@Vincent-gc3cu

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@@rayray4192 You and I are in the same boat! We have sinned. And thanks for reminding me of this imperfection. But I cant speak for you, but I am Born Again. As such, 1 John 3:9 explains my future. 1 JOHN 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death [Exodus 31:14-15; Exodus 35:1-2; Numbers 15:32-36; 2 Corinthians 3:7], but the gracious gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord [Matthew 11:28-30; Hebrews 4]. (NASB)

The day of rest has been from the beginning after the creation of man, every early nation called it rest

END TIMES PROPHECY Mat 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

@chucksmith4624

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Matthew 24: 20 Christ says to "pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, *neither on the sabbath day:"* First, let's all be honest. Mt. 24:20 does NOT say anything about Christians keeping the Sabbath. The implicit argument from the supposed Sabbath keepers is that, Mt. 24:20 shows that the disciples would be keeping the Sabbath and therefore, would not be able to *"flee"* on the Sabbath day. Therefore, they should pray to God begging Him to not make them brake the Sabbath by *"fleeing"* even if it were to save their own lives. It's a rather preposterous doctrine, *because God has no problem with anyone fleeing for their own safety on the Sabbath.* Christ taught you can break the Sabbath to pull an ox out of the ditch, so saving your life and the life of your loved ones on the Sabbath is not a sin. So, what is the meaning? It doesn't say Christians are keeping the Sabbath, although, it would be possible that Jewish Christians at the time of Christ could be keeping the Sabbath in Jerusalem. Nonetheless, there is only one thing that would remotely cause Christians to be concerned about fleeing on the Sabbath and that is that the Pharisees forbid running or even walking very far on the Sabbath because it was deemed "Work" and therefore, they should be persecuted, hunted down and stoned according to the law of Moses. Mt. 24:20 has an implicit warning about the Pharisees and those of the law, going to persecute and murder the Christians for breaking the Sabbath not teaching Sabbath keeping to the entire world, as they would have you believe. Once again, the shoddy and desperate abuse of the scripture of the Adventists and their like is exposed. And, trust me, those who CLAIM, to keep the Sabbath have no problem SECRETLY breaking the Sabbath fleeing or not. If you are keeping the Sabbath day, you won't be the ones fleeing, you will be in church and "resting" . However, throughout, the New Testament, the Sabbath keepers are persecuting and murdering the Christians. In 70 AD those that escaped left Jerusalem before the day of judgment on Jerusalem. What's odd is that the Sabbath keepers remained and were destroyed.

Here Are Examples Of Paul Keeping Torah: * Circumcised Timothy (Acts 16:1-3) * Took the nazarite vow (Acts 18:18; 21:17-26) * Taught and observed Gods holy days such as: * Passover (Acts 20:6; 1Cor. 5:6-8; 11:17-34) * Shavuot (Pentecost) (Acts 20:16; 1Cor. 16:8) * Fasting on Yom Kippur (Acts 27:9) . Paul and others made a Temple sacrifice for their Nazarite vow, . So Paul went to the Temple the next day with the other men. They had already started the purification ritual, so he publicly announced the date when their vows would end and sacrifices would be offered for each of them. Acts 21:26 . . Paul kept the Sabbath Acts 18:4 - And he (Paul) reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.(Gentiles) . . Paul taught that a believer in Yeshua the Messiah is saved by grace through faith (Ephesians 2:8-9). . After we are saved by grace through faith, Paul taught that we should follow the Torah (Romans 3:28-31). . . Paul followed the Torah through the help of the Holy Spirit (Romans 7:22). . . Paul did not teach people to observe the law in order to be saved or justified. . . That was not the purpose of the law. . . He taught them to observe the law in order to honor God as they walked out the Christian life in the footsteps of their Lord Jesus. . . By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep HIS commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous. .....1 John 5:2-3 KJV . . I dont have all the bible answers but IF Messiah declared the unclean, clean, by abolishing the Law of Elohim His PERFECT TORAH, Psalms 19:7, Instructions, Teachings for righteous SET APART living in this evil wicked world then HE SINNED by transgressing Deut 4:2 AND that would make Isaiah a False Prophet for making this end time prophesy of Messiahs return ….. Isaiah 66:15-17 . For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire. . 16 For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many. . 17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one [tree] in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.

Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

@TheBiblicalRoots

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Hi Elijah. Here's a study we did on that verse that might help: *How do Christians uphold the law? A bible study on Romans 3:31* kzread.info/dash/bejne/imyj0Jezg7vcYLQ.html Blessings, RLS

@elijahrodgers416

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​@@TheBiblicalRoots I appreciate your response but it is becoming more apparent that many Christians are using interpretations to explain away the Bible similar to what the Jews do to Isaiah 53. That is why you have three interpretations. The Bible is very clear regarding God's moral law. “For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty”? (James 2:10-12) Why would Christ come and die and pay the penalty of transgression if He would just abolish His law? A rejection of Gods moral law is a rejection of the perfect sacrifice of Christ on the cross. Jesus says, “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.” (Matthew 7:21) Jesus tells them “I never knew you”. “This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.” (Read Matthew 15:3-9) “For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty”? (James 2:10-12) For further study READ: Matthew 5:17-19; Matthew 15:3-6; Mark 7:6-9; Mark 2:27,28; Matthew 19:17-22; Luke 16:7; Mark 10:19-21; John 14:15; Romans 3:31; Romans 7:12; 1 Corinthians 7:19; Romans 7:22-25; Romans 8:1-4; Revelation14:12: Revelation 22:14; James 2:11,12; 1 John 3:4; Roman 7:7; Roman 13:9,10; Genesis 2:1-3; Luke 23:54,56.

Deuteronomy 23:25 “When you enter your neighbor’s standing grain, you may pluck the heads of grain with your hand, but you are not to use a sickle on your neighbor’s standing grain.“ (NASB) Matthew 12:1 At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath, and His disciples became hungry and began to pick the heads of grain and eat. 2 Now when the Pharisees saw this, they said to Him, “Look, Your disciples are doing what is not lawful to do [Talmud] on a Sabbath!”

@blueticks8423

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Same here!

For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us: 1Co 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. Paul commanding to keep the Passover . the jewish passover

@chucksmith4624

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Exodus 12:48 says you must be circumcised in the flesh to keep the Passover.

@indo3052

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@@chucksmith4624 yes

@indo3052

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@@chucksmith4624 hence why circumcision is eternal

If it’s optional to observe the old covenant Sabbath, the old covenant can’t be obsolete!

@AlstonMurray2005

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He's said it was not required, but you are permitted to do it if you want

@coachdanferreira

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The ritual is permitted, such as circumcision, feasts etc. Provided we do it not as a requirement for salvation but as a celebration that points towards Christ, as He is our Sabbath. He is the substance to which the shadows in the Law and Prophets pointed towards. At least that is my understanding of it! God bless 😁

@michaelbrutsche75

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@@coachdanferreira Why would one continue in the shadow when it’s substance has arrived?

@rayray4192

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⁠@@AlstonMurray2005you can’t observe a ritual that doesn’t exist. New covenant new creations in Christ enter God’s rest through Jesus. Christians keep sabbath everyday by not lifting a finger or burning one calorie working to attain or maintain righteousness. The form of sabbath changed when the better high priest eat a better covenant based upon better promises and necessarily established a new and better law. Judaizers suck.

@rayray4192

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My bad - spell check guy was on a break. Jesus established a new and better law. Book of Hebrews is a compare and contrast book. Jesus is the better high priest who changed the law. If you choose love perfectly today, you have kept the law of Christ. You will fail - it’s ok to fail.

35:30 Why do you fail to say that the Sabbath is a reminder of creation, that it is the identity marker of the Creator? Deny it if you will, but the scripture inseparably connects the seventh day to creation. Question, other then "because God said so", why do you supposed we currently have a seven day week?

@rayray4192

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You are ignorant. Sit down, shut up, and listen. Shabbat was rooted in creation and deliverance. The first set of tablets became dust on the desert floor. In the second set there is no mention of creation. It’s why Torah heretics always quote Exodus and not Deuteronomy. Deuteronomy 5:15 is Moses speaking to Israel; not you. “ You shall remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt, and the Lord your God brought you out of there with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm. Therefore the Lord your God commanded you to keep the sabbath day.” Hello, are you awake? Jesus being creator saves no one. Jesus being a propitiation and redeemer saves sinners. Here’s Paul being astounded that anyone can be exposed to Christ crucified and still think days of the week are relevant in the new covenant. “ You observe days and months and seasons and years! I am afraid I have labored over you in vain.” Galatians 4:10. Note the inspired exclamation point. I work 12 hours every Saturday and 10 hours every Sunday. I like taco Tuesday. I consider every day the same, and it’s not about fasting as perverters of scripture proclaim. Every day believers rest in Christ. Every day is a sabbath of sorts. The literal sabbath as a shadow law placed precisely in the center of the words of the covenant, ended when the promise to Abraham as fulfilled. A conditional covenant God did not make with you, and a covenant that that has not existed in 2,000 years.

The cry against the Sabbath has been “old covenant old covenant”, and now it’s optional to observe the so-called old covenant Sabbath !

@MarkHoward211

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The cry of "old covenant" is not necessary. The sabbath day is clearly defined as a covenant between God and Israel (Ex. 31:12-17). The church, or body of Christ is not Gentile and it is not Israel, it is "one new man" and "a perfect man" (Eph. 2:15; 4:13). This new entity (the body of Christ/church) was never commanded to keep a sabbath day. Paul taught that squabbling over certain foods and specific days of observance were a stumblingblock between believers (Rom. 14:1-15:12). This stumblingblock remains today, as different 'denominations' argue over legalistic nonsense that has nothing to do with the work of Christ on the cross.

@rayray4192

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It’s not optional- it’s impossible. Shabbat required a Levitical priest to kill two male lambs one year old without blemish.

@michaelbrutsche75

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@@MarkHoward211 So your saying that Christians shouldn’t squabble about other Christians keeping the covenant that was between God and Israel?

@MarkHoward211

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@@michaelbrutsche75 I didn't say it, the apostle Paul did.

The Sabbath was a foreshadow of the rest we have in christ it was part of the old covenant and is finished

I appreciate your zeal, but why all the emphasis of training others to think like you. You missed so many concepts about the sabbath that created . It's not a man made decree. It is God decreed

Sabbath keeping Part 2 Matthew 12, Jesus’ disciples were gleaning on the Sabbath. According to Talmudic law plucking=harvesting, removing husks=winnowing, chewing=grinding, The Pharisees were forcing poor people to starve on the Sabbath. God allows us to keep his law on the Sabbath. That’s the order and priority. If you need to work really hard at not killing someone on the Sabbath, you better do that. These are time sensitive Exceptions, fleeing for one’s own life, pulling your sheep from a ditch, etc. If a boy is born on Shabbat, he must be circumcised on the following Shabbat, and a Moyle must perform this. However, your elderly neighbor is not going to die if you wait to cut their grass on Sunday. 3:35 Remez, Yes I agree Jesus was using Remez in this case, but you got everything else wrong. You’d like to believe Jesus was speaking to his disciples and giving some sermon on the mount/beatitudes type of teaching. The fact is, Jesus was speaking to the Pharisees, and the hint (the blank that the Pharisees were to fill in) was “the knowledge of God” knowledge being the virtue prized above all by the Pharisees. Jesus was saying to the Pharisees, You don’t even know God, or his word. If they did they would not have condemned the innocent, because they would have known they were doing nothing wrong. Kinda makes more sense, right? Luke 6:9 Jesus is showing the contrast between his disciples gleaning on the Sabbath, and the Pharisees adding to Gods commands on the Sabbath. Gleaning=lawful, adding to Gods word=unlawful, eating food=saving life, starving poor people on the Sabbath=destroying life. John 5:8 Many, if not most of Jesus’ miracles were coupled with breaking man made traditions. Proving he was God, and that Shiloh has come Gen. 49:10. John 5:17 So they way you understand this verse, Jesus broke the Sabbath, admitted to breaking the Sabbath, and is a sinner, and Jesus accused God of also being a sinner??? I think you missed something. 11:55 “The entire posture changes toward the Sabbath” Jesus is simply countering the overzealous strivings of the Sabbath by the Pharisees. Jesus gave no commandments regarding the Sabbath, because he already did in the Torah. Where in the Torah does it state “Any command not repeated by Shiloh when he comes are null and void”? Or that any man, or even God himself can abrogate any part of the Law? “Jesus didn’t rebuke anyone for failing to keep the Sabbath” where is that example? Who did Jesus encounter not keeping the Sabbath? Everyone was keeping the Sabbath. Everyone was keeping the Sabbath in error, in accordance with Pharisaical tradition, and he rebuked that. Yeah many commands were repeated in the New Testament, those commands were not being followed. “The silence on the Sabbath command is notable” on a word per page ratio, Sabbath is mentioned more often in the New Testament than the Old. It’s been a while since I’ve researched this, but I remember it being almost 2 to 1. Romans 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. 6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks. Compare with: Zachariah 7:5 Speak unto all the people of the land, and to the priests, saying, When ye fasted and mourned in the fifth and seventh month, even those seventy years, did ye at all fast unto me, even to me? 6 And when ye did eat, and when ye did drink, did not ye eat for yourselves, and drink for yourselves? This is not about the Sabbath, it’s about fasting, weekly frequency, and traditions. Jesus does not replace our rest. We encounter Jesus in our rest when we rest with him on the Sabbath. Let me explain, in Matt 7:23 Jesus says “And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.” I never knew you… How do you get to know someone? By spending time with them, mostly. Jesus is saying, we never hung out together, we never spent the day together, you never came to any of my parties, we were never in the same place at the same time. Gods Sabbaths are his appointed times, appointments, you have appointments with God, and you don’t show up. I keep hearing the word “required” all I can say is (speaking for myself) when your given the gift of the Holy Spirit. You are endowed with the God given power to keep Gods Torah, the Holy Spirit encourages and empowers you to keep Gods commandments. Gods seventh day Sabbath such a joy and blessing, from my perspective this attitude is so foreign to me, I don’t even understand it. I’m not questioning anyones faith (that’s Jesus’ job) it just seems like their Holy Spirit has been quenched and diminished to a point of ineffective/inactive as if they’ve hid their talent in the earth. I’ve seen a lot of teaching against keeping Gods Torah/Sabbath from people who literally have zero experience in the matter, but act as though they are expert. I’ve also seen many horror stories about people leaving the “Hebrew roots movement” some may be legitimate, there are many cult like sects, but also many of those stories sound contrived. We are living through the age of deceit , and the answer to it is not compromise. You need to decide Did God and Satan completely switch sides on this issue at the Cross, because we know for a fact, that before the Cross God was very pro Torah, and Satans’ role was to get people to do anything but Gods’ Torah. So what then, did God and Satan just switch seats? Peace

If you notice Solberg is constantly contradicting himself. First he says Jesus expects Jewish believers to keep the sabbath in the end times in Matthew 24, then he says it was done away with. Which is it ? How do you know you're not an Israelite? How do you know I'm not a descendent from one of the tribes? This dispensation theology gets destroyed pretty quickly

@TheBiblicalRoots

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Words are important, Indo. If you watch this video again, you will notice that I never said "Jesus expects Jewish believers to keep the sabbath in the end times." What I said was, "Jesus clearly anticipates that his Jewish followers will continue to keep the Sabbath." The difference? Jesus _knew_ observance of a seventh-day Sabbath would continue, but He did not _require_ it to continue. Also, I never said the seventh day Sabbath was "was done away with," I said it is "permitted nut not required." Also, I'm not a dispensationalist. Shalom, RLS

@indo3052

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@@TheBiblicalRoots so there are Israelites during the end times that he anticipates will keep the sabbath. Who and where are these Israelites that he anticipates will keep this Sabbath? Meaning how do you know you are not an israelite?

@TheBiblicalRoots

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@@indo3052 Hi Indo. I know I am not an Israelite because I am not a member of the ancient Hebrew nation. And my Ancestry.com results indicate no Jewish ancestry. Also, I believe in Matt 24:20 Jesus was referring to the destruction of the temple which happened in 70 AD, not the end times. And, again, the seventh day Sabbath observance was never forbidden or prohibited. It is permitted but not required for all followers of Jesus, whether they are Jewish or Gentile. Shalom! RLS

@indo3052

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@@TheBiblicalRoots You said Jesus anticipates them to keep it in end times. I thought you were referring to end times meaning the time before the Messiah comes. But I guess you were referring to 70 ad end times

@indo3052

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@@TheBiblicalRoots so your stance is that this has already passed? Mat 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. Mat 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Messiah said that the priests desecrated the Sabbath, you said that he said they profaned it. He did not say that

@dancingzolins6782

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Matt 12:5 ESV "Or have you not read in the Law how on the Sabbath the priests in the temple PROFANE the Sabbath and are guiltless?" Matt 12:5 KJV "Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple PROFANE the sabbath, and are blameless" Perhaps you are using a different translation?

@vernmiroth1626

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@@dancingzolins6782 Ok, different English words are used in various English translations. What point are you trying to make?

@dancingzolins6782

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@@vernmiroth1626 Here's your original comment directed to R. L. Solberg: "Messiah said that the priests desecrated the Sabbath, you said that he said they profaned it. He did not say that" Actually, Messiah DID say they PROFANED it, and I provided two Scripture references. That was my point. What was your point? Perhaps I misunderstood your original comment?

@vernmiroth1626

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@@dancingzolins6782 no you understood my original point, upon checking a greater variety of translations, I do see a great variety in words they chose to use here

Colossians 2:16-17 (NLT): 16 So don’t let anyone condemn you for what you eat or drink, or for not celebrating certain holy days or new moon ceremonies or Sabbaths. 17 For these rules are only shadows of the reality yet to come. And Christ himself is that reality.

The new covenant didn't start until his death? Solberg you have a lot of explaining to do, are you telling me they didn't know that animal sacrifices were done away with many many years after the cross? Acts 21? You are in contradiction

@TotoPaulino

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Hebrews 9:17 English Standard Version 17 For a will takes effect only at death, since it is not in force as long as the one who made it is alive. I believe this is what he meant about the New Covenant...

You just quoted Galatians two. That is not rebuking Peter for doing God's law .....that is Judaism... the law doesn't permit such behavior. You are not supposed to to treat uncircumcised differently. Paul rebuke Peter for doing Judaism and he called it works of the law . You completely misrepresented galations two

This is not a case for the Sabbath as you proclaim. It's a case for making God in your own image. The New testament born again experience wasn't first mentioned in the gospel accounts. It's first mentioned in Deuteronomy 30, Ezekiel 36, and Jeremiah 31....and what is the result of that born again experience according to Tanakh? Correct! It is obedience to Torah. "I will Remove your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh and I will place my spirit within you to cause you to walk in my statutes and my regulations." But wait, doesn't Paul talk about that very same thing in his mail, I mean midrash, to the Torah observant Jewish Rabbi in charge of the synagogue in Rome? I think he does. In Romans 2 it says, "For it is not merely the hearers of Torah that are considered righteous, rather it is the doers of what Torah says who will be made righteous in God's sight, for whenever gentiles, who have no Torah, begin to do naturally (through the leading of the Ruach HaKodesh) what the Torah requires, then even these, have become Torah!! According to God, Moshe, Ezekiel, Jeremiah, Yeshua Rabbeinu and even Paul, the result of the born again experience should be Torah observance. Anything other than that, and youre being led astray by your desires and lusts, and the doctrines of evil men. Or, in the worst case scenario, your 'Jesus' is not the Jewish messiah, King of Israel, Son of God, Son of David or any other title you wish to give him. Instead, according to Deut 13, he's the false prophet sent by God to take you away from the mitzvot which are designed to draw you close to Him.

@TheBiblicalRoots

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Hi, RR! I teach and believe that obedience to God is of utmost importance for believers. We are to submit to His authority over our lives. Jesus said, “If you love me, you will keep my commandments” (John 14:15). And I’m sure you would agree that not every command God has given applies to every person at all times. Some only apply to certain people (i.e., men, women, parents, Levitical priests) or at certain times (i.e., building an ark, gathering manna, while in exile). And I’m sure you would also agree that we are each only expected to keep the commands of God that apply to us. The NT expressly teaches that many of the commands given under the Old Covenant Law do not apply to Christians today. (ex. Repeated blood sacrifices for sin are no longer required (Heb 10:18).) We still serve God and obey His commands, “But now we are released from the law, having died with Christ to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code” (Rom 7:6). “If you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law: (Gal. 5:18). So, no, when Jesus speaks of being born again, he is not talking about keeping the Old Covenant law, but rather the New Covenant law. Blessings, RLS

@RedneckRabbi

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@@TheBiblicalRoots yes, I agree that the covenant relationship with Hashem has a hierarchy and those at the Top are servants to those on the bottom. What is applicable to men is not applicable to women, children, priests, etc. This is not a new thing. It's always been that way. Look at how much of a servant Abraham was. Even Yeshua, after healing the lepers, still sent the healed person to the priests for the purification ritual. Even Yeshua was subject to the authority of the priests so the hierarchy was in place even for Yeshua. This is why there were no discussions about gentile conversions because Adonai had already passed along through Abraham the established process for proselytes. Doesn't Yeshua give everyone the guidance, "listen to Rabbis and be sure to do all they instruct you for their authority comes from Moshe"? I paraphrased, but that's basically what it says. The Messiah absolutely rebukes, and reproves and that rebuke and correction doesn't end with the son of God. Doesn't judgment come to the house of the Lord first? And where/who is the house of the Lord? Oh yeah, Judah and Israel. This is to whom the New Covenant belongs, as a goyim you don't get the new covenant until you circumcise your heart and submit to Judah. You have to become like the mixed multitudes that came out of Egypt with Israel. And Genesis 49:10 still holds true. The scepter of power and authority rests with Judah until they give it to Shiloh. Esav must grab a hold of his brother and truly love him. You can't love God the way He desires to be loved until you love Ya'akov, honor Ya'akov and respect Ya'akov. Regarding your current understanding: It is very possible the idea of Jesus is a god you've created in your mind and not the Jewish Messiah as described in Tanakh. If the Jewish Messiah doesn't lead you to Torah observance, he can't be the Messiah. Jesus, by your understanding, is the prophet sent by God to test you and separate you from God (Deuteronomy 13). John of Patmos envisioned a people that obeyed God's commandments and had their testimony in Yeshua (Revelation 12:17). Paul sacrificed in Acts 21 when he was purified along with the other four (vow of Nazir - Num.16) as directed by the Jerusalem council. Paul believed in circumcision (Galatians 5:11) and explains earlier in Galatians that Titus wasn't forced. So did Titus choose to be circumcised of his own recognizance because the Ruach was leading him in accordance with Romans 2? And what about the millennial kingdom reign as spoken of in Ezekiel 40-45, especially Ezekiel 45 where the prince (that is supposed to be Messiah, and according to you, Jesus) offers up sacrifices on his behalf and on behalf of the people? How or why is this possible if your Jesus paid it all on the cross and there is no more sacrifice? And speaking of a comment you made reference:, "let no one judge you regarding a Sabbath day, new moon festival...etc" Paul sent this letter/midrash via Pony Express to Colossia. Is it possible that he sent it to a Rabbi in charge of a Jewish Synagogue in Colossia and that the congregation was Torah observant but surrounded by Greeks and Romans that ridiculed them for obeying the Lord's moedim? If so, then the whole entire meaning of that passage turns on its head. What if all the "churches" Paul sent a midrash to was an actual Synagogue, led by Jewish Rabbis that also believed in Yeshua? Wasn't Timothy circumcised for that purpose, so he could be a legitimate Jewish Rabbi sent by Paul? Seems like to me, Yeshua and Paul agree, salvation is of, and from, the Jews. And Israel must be a light to the nations because God's word said so and His word does not return to Him void. I spent my whole seeing Yeshua in the Tanakh just like you. Moshe, Isaac, Noach, Joseph....all symbolic of Yeshua. What is Yeshuas' life symbolic of Rob? What if the life of Yeshua is a concentrated version of the story of Israel? If Yeshua arose from the dead, how will the other son of God, Israel, rise from the dead? Is it possible that the answer is the unification between law and love as described in Ezekiel 36? Shouldn't the unification of law and love cause the resurrection of those in the valley of dry bones and the two sticks being joined together as depicted in Ezekiel 37? There is no other way to reach Judah and hold on to your current understanding. You have to let it go. If you don't, you run the chance of being one of those that "scatter the flock of the Lord". And this is not a good position to be in.

The law is perfect. Psalm 19.7 Jesus taught the the way to keep the law. The Sabbath was never not to be kept. Jesus showed the way to keep it. Luke 4.16

In loving kindness, and as your humble servant. As a former so-called “Sunday Keeping” Christian, and now seventh day, I disagree with your biblical perspective on some of the core references you presented as follows. May a mustard seed of faith be found and grow in me and your readers' heart from the discussion, if any. My intent is not so much to persuade you that so-called “keeping” of the seventh day sabbath is even possible by yourself without God for salvation, but to implore you to search your conscience. May I implore the same, to use scripture for reproving sound doctrine on the matter in coordination with the Holy Spirit (Timothy 3:16). First, I think you may have fallen into the deception that when reading about the (false) actions, words, and teachings of the Pharisees, that (their intended) false teachings were in any way inspired to help their audience. No, the Pharisees can't be our example, nor should you consider them having wisdom because they were a generation of vipers (Mat12:34,Mat5:20.) When you read in the gospels according to the apostles what the Pharisees (falsely) taught and thought, it was almost certainly unscriptural. Meaning, there was already scripture written and available which reproved all the Pharisees' false doctrine in most cases. In every other relevant so-called exceptional so-called unclear trick/deception presented by the Pharisees, our Savior has perfectly clarified. The same our Savior clarified for the reference you mentioned (Mat12:11-12) 6:03 min mark …on picking the heads of grain, and in reference to the priestly duties. I can’t fathom how our hearts must have become so blinded by the time our Savior came, that He had to clarify “It is lawful to do good on the Sabbath”, because the Pharisees pretended not to see this clearly in the scriptures written of God by his own finger (Exe31:18) and the prophets already. It is also likewise unfathomable how these beautiful verses about God’s saving of life, and miracles happening for us (especially on the Sabbath) can be perceived against believing anything God has already said through the prophets in scripture confirming these things about the Sabbath (Isa 58:13) and what God spake Himself from heaven (Exe20:1-19). Likewise, Matt12:8 also Luk6:5, and Mark2:27 do NOT falsify the Sabbath, but confirm that it was made for ALL mankind not only Jews, and has existed as an institution since creation (Gen2:1-3), and that the Father and Son are one (Joh10:30.) Based on how many errors in such obvious meaning and teaching that were missed in part 1 and part 2 of this series so far, and how they were presented as foundational to your understanding of the inspiration to the so-called “(a) christian First-Day, Sun-Day sabbath”, I hesitate to comment how one can maintain the so-called Tension of Sabbath in Scripture 16:49 min mark and beyond as presented is reproof for sound doctrine (Timothy 3:16). Your main argument at this point if I am not misrepresenting the view is that “Because I currently can not clearly see a good enough reference for me to the so-called Sabbath “Keeping” in the New Testament, I am free to … declare my own day of rest (on the first day instead of the seventh day) for which God must honor and declare as Holy as Gen2:2-3 and elsewhere because… I-Because-it-so.`` Forgive me, is this your opinion (Isa14:13)? I gathered, as you stated, to potentially “help us” choose the first day as “A sabbath”... was that it was convenient for you… because you prefer grading papers on the seventh day? Or is it because your friends have also chosen to gather only on the first day based on a similar moral stance? I have heard seemingly biblical rationale for Sunday meetings relating to a devout belief in what our Savior actually did, not a conjecture on what they think the scripture does NOT say regarding this topic has something secret profound for meditation on what is not in the scriptures. Did not our savior say he did nothing in secret (Joh 18:20)? Is there a reason you didn’t even touch an obvious and potentially plausible doctrine why to meet on the First day based on what our Savour did? Do you not like the source of that doctrine or is it not convincing to you? I hope I have not offended you too bitterly. Ask God if so-called “Sabbath Keeping” is foundational to salvation. I for one am sure salvation is believe in the Only begotten Son of the Father Joh3:16, and yea even in His Name (Joh1:12). However I think it is important to be honest about what the scriptures have to say so that one can make an informed conscientious decision on something as potentially reproof as as the decalogue, and the Sabbath. Please let me know if you disagree based on scripture and the Holy Spirit. Blessings.

Rob, your first Minute Rebuttal. Thy pharisees of the day. Thought Man’s Torah, Messiah showed us how to properly apply Torah by doing Good. Torah in this Case Sabbaths, Had Been corrupted by MAN, made “a yoke, made burdensome “ Now today’s Man, teaches against Torah… MAN is corrupted when in leadership positions that do not follow the word Torah correctly, With the heart, not your heart, but hHIS heart…. Messiah Was the Walking Talking TORAH, no GO, follow HIM. Not the wayward religions of man.

If Yeshua is our teacher, does he not model the behavior he expects? When he taught the shema, did he intend it in a complete new context with no relation to its original context?

CommonWeath -- Hebrew= CrossedOver sWORD Spirit and Truth -- 7th day sAbbAth's Seal -- Covenant IN Loyalty The Most High Ahb Yahu'Ah= Spirit= AbbA Creator Father. Yahu'Sha Hebrew Anointed SonShip= sWORD and Head(ROCK) to body(stones) of congregation covenant loyal (be)living IN earth, that adhere TO His voice: (Yashra'Al) ...The Most High Ahb Yahu'Ah sovereign saves. Emet ❤️ Love you Ahb Yahu'Ah sovereign of my breath, soul, and the blood IN my veins (DNA). (Psalm 90:12-17) So teach us TO number our days, That we (may) apply our hearts unTO wisdom. Return, Oh Most High Ahb Yahu'Ah sovereign, how long? And let it repent thee concerning thy servants. Oh satisfy us (early) with thy mercy; That we (may) rejoice and be glad all our days. And counting: ...1st day/night season of the WorkWeek, ...2nd day/night season of the WorkWeek, ...3rd day/night season of the WorkWeek ...4th day/night season of the WorkWeek, ...5th day/night season of the WorkWeek, ...6th day/night season of the WorkWeek (double up): ...for the morrow’s morning IS the Seventh day/night sAbbAth's season. Emet ❤️ What was Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob considered before the 12 tribes were born? ...And before Yahu'Sha the anointed Hebrew Messiah, rather than the Roman religion's man-made diety with the Greek name that has no power and authority IN the Kingdom's throne. ...Go to (Genesis Chapters 15-17) and (Hebrews Chapter 11) to understand the Covenant Loyalty and 'Saving Will' Testimony of the Most High Ahb Yahu'Ah sovereign ❤️ ...They were all faithful, obedient, and walked with the Most High Sovereign IN UpRightNess, Kingdom MindSet Justice, and were SetApart from embedded pagan world religious conditioning and dogma. Tsion ❤️ Praise and thanks to the Most High Ahb Yahu'Ah for His 'Saving Will' Testimony IN His anointed Hebrew Son Yahu'Sha Messiah. Prayers, blessings, and peace (restoration) of the ❤️, for those that adhere TO His voice, covenant, and commandments.

0:18 The first choice, 6 “And the foreigners who join themselves to the Lord, to minister to him, to love the name of the Lord, and to be his servants, everyone who keeps the Sabbath and does not profane it, and holds fast my covenant- 7 these I will bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer; their burnt offerings and their sacrifices will be accepted on my altar; for my house shall be called a house of prayer for all peoples.”

@dancingzolins6782

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Isaiah 56:6-7 was referenced by Jesus in Matthew 21:13, Mark 11:17, and Luke 19:46. This promise says the Sabbath-keeping foreigners will be brought to God's holy mountain and house of prayer where their burnt offerings and sacrifices will be accepted on the altar. Is this a reference to the Temple destroyed in 70AD, or a future temple, or both?

@6969smurfy

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​@dancingzolins6782 Yes, its our sacrifice now, Atonement payment made. There is no temple now, We need to repent and turn around Our way of Life and except HIS way of life. For this is the Love of HIS Name.❤

After looking at all the biblical data that you presented in both of the videos and your conclusion at the end, I'm still of the mindset that resting for a day is contradictory. After all, Jesus said that both he and his Father are continuing to work, even on the Sabbath (Eph 5:1 says, "imitate God"...). My question, I guess, would be that if I am led to see the Sabbath or resting for a day as "out of bounds", and so do not even think about it at all, is this evidence to you that I am not saved or a Christian? By the way, I do not see your desire to rest as you described as evidence at all that you are saved or a Christian (and so of course I don't see my own ways in that light either).

@TheBiblicalRoots

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Hi, Greg! No, I don't see anyone's position on a day of rest as evidence of their salvation. I think the best response to your question comes from the apostle Paul: "Do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ," (Col. 2:16-17) Blessings, RLS

@coachdanferreira

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If I may, the way I look at it is the following: the Shabbat given to the Israelites could also be seen as a day to rest physically, as they had been in Egypt as slaves for a long time. We see today that productivity goes up the more rested physically and mentally workers are. The way the fields were rested every 7 years is actually something incredible as it allows for crops to yield better harvests and not completely drain nutrients from the soil. All of these things are secondary matters of course, but they provide us with insight into God's care for our physical and mental well being. I do not think it is mandatory to rest, but it sure is a smart idea to set aside a day to rest physically and mentally. It just so happens that it is also convenient to do so on the day I worship with my wife and fellow Christians on Sunday at my local Reformed Baptist Church. My wife and I will usually go out for a meal at new restaurant (we have a list of new places and look forward to check them off our list, we are big foodies), and then after lunch spend time in nature (we both love the outdoors and during the work week find it impossible to partake in it) and maybe meet up with friends/family at the end of the day. Depending on our mood we might also study the Bible together or discuss theological questions raised from Sunday school or the Sermon. It is truly a blessing to live this way, and it completely energises me for work the next day on Monday morning! Hope my personal view of the Lord's Day might shed some light on a perspective that shows it as being a blessing and not a requirement! God bless

@gregmahler9506

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@@coachdanferreira - that’s cool, no judgment here from me either way. Imagine if someone told you that they sacrifice 2 lambs for Passover and spread the blood over their front door in commemoration. I would see that as completely unnecessary in the same exact ways as I see resting (on purpose to commemorate the Sabbath) as unnecessary (archaic, obsolete, out of date). Etc.

@coachdanferreira

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@@gregmahler9506For a bit of context, I am a former Seventh-Day Adventist. And oh yes, on purpose to commemorate the Shabbat for the reasons stipulated in the OT I do also find archaic and outdated. The law, including the 4th commandment, was just a teacher until Christ came. That command is just a shadow of the substance. I do not rest trying to follow the constraints written in the 4th commandment and expanded in all the other Shabbat laws. Rather, I find God's advice to rest at least one day per week to be quite useful in my life and I apply the principle of resting even though I don't agree with the ritualistic part of it. And the reality is I don't cease from work on that day as would an SDA or Torahist. I still go eat out, which is usually seen as a big no-no. And if for some reason I do have work to do I do not refrain from it as the commandment would require I do. I rest because I have the opportunity to do so and see the benefits of switching off from daily life. It is not a requirement, it is a privilege. I can understand how someone would feel inclined to do keep the ritual, but personally I don't agree with it for the same reason sacrificing the lambs is completely unnecessary, because those things were completed in Christ. And the reason I worship on Sunday is merely because I want to celebrate the resurrection of Jesus and what He has accomplished in me, making me a new creature in Him because, as Paul says, if Christ had not resurrected it would have all been useless and meaningless. It's basically a weekly day to get together and celebrate that, but it's not necessarily a day that is observed in the same way as Shabbat in the OT, at least for me.

@gregmahler9506

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@@coachdanferreira - Sounds great to me; We sleep every night which is rest as well and technically most of the working world is off on Saturday and Sunday. So it's all sort of moot and a non-issue for me for many reasons. Personally I would never take a job that had Saturday or Sunday workdays unless there was nothing else, loosely based on the Sabbath laws and the desire to attend church on Sunday. But that is the extent of my current conviction.

If we're grafted in to God's family it seems that we should be consistent with our family spiritual Israel

Ezekiel 33:13 When I say to the righteous that he shall surely live,* *but he TRUSTS IN HIS OWN RIGHTEOUSNESS AND COMMITS INIQUITY, NONE of his righteous works shall be remembered;* but because of the iniquity that he has committed, he shall die. *This day, this scripture is fulfilled in the Seventh Day Adventist Church!* Who the hell would repeat a damnable lie like the Sunday Law Hoax! For all their bluster, *the Adventist church has never once given any proof of any prayer or any song or any text by any Catholics or Protestants worshiping the Sun in the past 2,000 years.* What damnable liars.

First Jesus did not change or do away with any laws . Matthew 5:17 (KJV) Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. Fulfill to me shows us GODs laws are not beyond our reach and not impossible for us to obey . Jesus was fully man . He did not destroy or do away with the laws of the FATHER . He changed not any only to clarify.

@TheBiblicalRoots

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Hi, Jim! So is it your position that animal sacrifices are still required to atone for sin? RLS

@jimharmon2300

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@@TheBiblicalRoots A sacrifice is just what it is , a sacrifice, a gift from you to GOD . Does not have to be a shedding of blood . If all you can afford is a measure of flour , so be it . Leviticus 5:11 (KJV) But if he be not able to bring two turtledoves, or two young pigeons, then he that sinned shall bring for his offering the tenth part of an ephah of fine flour for a sin offering; he shall put no oil upon it, neither shall he put [any] frankincense thereon: for it [is] a sin offering. It is a a sin offering, a gift . Man cannot give a sacrifice now because the Messiah has not built the Temple . Zechariah 6:12 (KJV) And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name [is] The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD: Zechariah 6:13 (KJV) Even he shall build the temple of the LORD; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both. We must obey the laws that are within our reach . And concerning the Sabbath . Isaiah 66:23 (KJV) And it shall come to pass, [that] from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD. Read the whole chapter . Why would Jesus do away with it when it can be kept today . That was the first thing Moses required the Hebrew to do in Egypt. The story of the brick and straw . What be your thoughts ?

@TheBiblicalRoots

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@@jimharmon2300 Hi Jim. I specifically asked about a *_sin_* sacrifice. The Torah requires animal sacrifices to atone for sin (Lev. 16), Is it your position that these animal sacrifices are still required to atone for sin today? RLS

@jimharmon2300

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@@TheBiblicalRoots I already answered that question. No Temple no animal sacrifice. Man cannot give a sacrifice now because the Messiah has not built the Temple . We are talking of animal sacrifice but I suppose I should have included animal and not just said sacrifice. Without a Temple there is no Temple sacrifice. All are now living by the grace of GOD as so was the Israelites after their first Temple was destroyed. And now after the second Temple was destroyed. GODs grace abounds to all . But HIS grace will come to an end . HIS wrath will be world wide . Those HE wishes to keep alive HE will . Do you not know what the hands of GOD are ? HIS hands are Angels Man Earthquakes Weather Floods Insects Animals All are HIS hands that will do HIS will . To bring about what HE has spoken . There is no three that makeup one . GOD is a spirit . Plainly says . HIS words contain HIS spirit . HIS words reveals HIS will to us . Let me ask you . Why did GOD send an Angel to slay Balaam the Prophet ? The one with the talking donkey. Read it carefully. With open eyes . Sorry for the long context .

@jimharmon2300

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@@TheBiblicalRoots I guess you are going to be quiet now .

There is one thing that honestly bothers me concerning Christians and the sabbath and that is their insistence on doing it on a Sunday. All Christians know that the biblical sabbath day is Saturday and not Sunday yet, it's as if they willfully stick a finger at God and say to Him "we know your sabbath is on Saturday but we have decided that we know better than you and so we'll celebrate it on Sunday". This is wrong no matter how we try to defend our position. Please just for one minute place yourself in the Father's position by you telling the whole world that this is your day and the whole world (especially those who believe in you) tell you to get stuffed, we'll do it our way. This is the epitomy of disgraceful behavior towards the living God.

Rob 2 errors; "Works of the law" are transgressions not law keeping; and"imputation" is not impartation or giving to another, but recognition of already having it.

@TheBiblicalRoots

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Hi, Simon. What makes you think the phrase "works of the law" refers to transgressions or sin? That definition sure seems to make nonsense out of a lot of verses. It makes it sound like there were all kinds of people who thought that they were made right with God by sinning. For example, For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- not by *_sinning,_* so that no one can boast. (Eph 2:8-9) Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. Because of what law? The law that requires *_sin?_* No, because of the law that requires faith. (Rom. 3:27) "We know that a person is not justified by *_sinning,_* but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by *_sinning,_* because by the *_sinning,_* no one will be justified. (Gal. 2:16) I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by *_sinning,_* or by believing what you heard? (Gal. 3:2) Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by *_sinning;_* rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin. (Rom. 3:20) For all who rely on *_sinning_* are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.” (Gal. 3:10) RLS

@simonskinner1450

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@@TheBiblicalRoots You are right. Many did think they were justified even when the sinned, as many do now, but Paul says no man is justified by sin. So easy to understand as a concept that needed to be defined in the gospel of salvation, so Paul does in Romans 3:20 but not as your translation reads. Paul when he was Saul thought he was atoned for his sins yearly, but like the Pharisees he did not realise he was under the curse of death as Deuteronomy 30. Even those reading Romans 3:20 KJV misread this verse, in the Greek "knowledge" does not read as 'gnosis', but 'epognosis' which is experiential knowledge or imputation of sin. Your translation of Galatians 3:10 seems OK as it agrees that sinning is not keeping the law and brings the curse or condemnation of sin, and sin is judicial condemnation. My #1 Ytube video in the series 'Myths in so-called Christianity' has a full explanation, maybe you get one of your students to watch it if you cannot. Misreading Romans 3:20 I believe has mislead 'Christianity' to believe the old covenant was works salvation, and the new is salvation by grace therefore denying the need of good works for salvation, and the truth is good works are the only proof of faith for grace.

@rayray4192

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You are embarrassing yourself. Sit down and shut up and listen. You might learn something. You are babbling nonsense

Matthew 5v17,18 19, whosoever therefore shall break one of least Commandments, and he shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do them, the same shall be called Great in the kingdom of heaven. ( Sounds like you're teaching Elohim's people not to obey His Instructions). O' we're not the law we can do what we like.20. Roman 6v1-1John 3v4. Get the doggy bag out.

@TheBiblicalRoots

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Hi, Karl! I teach and believe that obedience to God is of utmost importance for believers. We are to submit to His authority over our lives. Jesus said, “If you love me, you will keep my commandments” (John 14:15). And I’m sure you would agree that not every command God has given applies to every person at all times. Some only apply to certain people (i.e., men, women, parents, Levitical priests) or at certain times (i.e., building an ark, gathering manna, while in exile). And I’m sure you would also agree that we are each only expected to keep the commands of God that apply to us. The NT expressly teaches that many of the commands given under the Old Covenant Law do not apply to Christians today. (ex. Repeated blood sacrifices for sin are no longer required (Heb 10:18).) We still serve God and obey His commands, “But now we are released from the law, having died with Christ to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code” (Rom 7:6). “If you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law: (Gal. 5:18).. Blessings, RLS

@Mikhael1964

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​@@TheBiblicalRootsGreetings Brother in Christ 🙏.. I'm a bit confused here. Many like you say the Sabbath was given as a sign to Israel (see Exodus 31:13-17). And Nowhere is it given as a sign of the Church. The problem with this notion, that the Church is a new entity from Israel, when in fact all believers in the Messiah, Jesus, are grafted into the Olive Tree and that Olive Tree is called Israel. How do we know Israel is the Olive Tree? You just have to read Jeremiah: Jeremiah 11:16 The LORD called your name, "A green olive tree, beautiful in fruit and form;" With the noise of a great tumult. Now if we are believers in the Messiah, Jesus,don’t we have to be the seed of Abraham (Israel), and be grafted into the Olive Tree? Isn’t that what Paul taught? Galatians 3:29 "And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise" We just read that we are suppose to be heirs of the promise…what promise? Well, the promises God made to Abraham, in other words, the “Covenant of Abraham.” Now, don't you teach that the newer covenant abolishes and does away with the previous covenant? Indeed it is what is taught in all the Church world too. This is why supposedly the New Covenant did away with the Old Covenant of Moses. But we just read that we are still heirs to the Covenant of Abraham…all the covenant promises made to Abraham… So again, common sense tells me that if the next covenant did away with the previous one, than that would mean that Old Covenant of Moses would have abolished the Covenant of Abraham. BUT , that is not what we just read…Paul tells us after we are grated into the Olive Tree Israel, then we too still have the promises or the Covenant of Abraham. So the newer covenant must not be able to abolish the older one…make sense? Now just to drive that same point home again, let’s say it one more time…it is that important; If the Old Covenant has been abolished and replaced with the New Covenant, then how can the Apostle Paul tell us that we are heirs of the promise? That promise was given to Abraham in the Old Covenant. I am sorry; we can not have it both ways. The promises are either still there and in full effect, or they have been destroyed and abolished. Which is it Rob please? Thank you. GOD BLESS 🙏

24:22 What would come to a mind of a first century y Jew when reading Paul's discussion in Romans 14? Probably the Phariseeical tradition of having two different fast days a week and which days those should fall on. Context matters Applying the Sabbath to Romans 14 is almost as bad exegetically as your insistence that Rev 1:10 refers to the first day of the week

Claim: "As Christians, we are under grace and thus aren't supposed to keep the Sabbath." Answer: Why would Christians twist his words to mean that being "under grace" gives them a license to break God's fourth commandment by substituting some other day for the 7th day? Would Sunday keeping Christians use the very same logic and say that being "under grace" means they can break God's sixth commandment: "You shall not murder?" Did God say, "You shall not murder except when you are under grace?" No. Being "under grace" simply means the blood of Christ has forgiven us and we are no longer under the condemnation of the Law - it does not mean we are free to sin by disobeying God.

@6969smurfy

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Truly truly I say to You, It is that simple.

@frazierwoods9912

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@@6969smurfy Google "Common Objections for Not Keeping the Sabbath" and you'll find an article (Ecclesia) that literally addresses every claim against the observance of the Sabbath. The Sabbath is biblical. I just wish they could see it.

@frazierwoods9912

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@@6969smurfy I wish others could see it...

@6969smurfy

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@frazierwoods9912 well, only YAH/God can open theirs eyes. All's we can do is hopefully plant the seed.... that they will have to nurture it with Thy Fathers Help

@frazierwoods9912

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@@6969smurfy ...1000% true

Read the FULL new covenant prophecies.. Ezekiel and Jeremiah. Then tell me one part of the new covenant that has taken place since we are under the new covenant as you say ? But before you answer that think about this, and Matthew Jesus says out of his own mouth, giving a “judgment day” prophecy says he’s gonna tell a lot of people, God-fearing people people that perform miracles, save lives, gave prophecies all in his name… so these people know about Grace and Faith, but at the end he told them to depart from me you who practice lawlessness… lawlessness means without law. That means they were sinning and under the new covenant that we are supposedly under, won’t he remember our sins no more ? The new covenant is coming, but your timing is off!

@jacobsilverberg1329

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Luke 19:21-44 fulfilled to the letter. The covenant was first announced by Christ and ratified upon His death; Heb. 2:1-4; 9:15; 9:16-18. I mean, unless you just deny the texts and make up your own rules the enactment of the covenant at the cross is inescapable. Because they are judged by their deeds they are lawless, just as every man is, just as you are absent the pardon of justification through faith alone. Your emphasis is misplaced. Rather it should be; _" and in thy name done many wonderful works?"_ They are without faith because of their confidence in the flesh and boastful works. I'm paraphrasing here in hopes that you are without need of citation. "...they were sinning and under the new covenant that we are supposedly under, won’t he remember our sins no more ?" They were not under the new covenant since they did not believe. _"“He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. "_ Instead they attempted to climb the wall rather than enter through the sheep gate. They entered the wedding feast via the back door rather than the front where the doorman would have dressed them in the garment of faith. More paraphrasing, from the Lord's parables. Without the covering of imputed righteousness you are guilty, and your works are worthless. "The new covenant is coming, but your timing is off!" _"For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance-now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant."_ Then you will not receive the eternal inheritance since you can not be party to a covenant which does not exist.

@virtualwavs3237

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@@jacobsilverberg1329 "I mean, unless you just deny the texts and make up your own rules the enactment of the covenant at the cross is inescapable. " This is not my stance at all, but rather the opposite. I read about the N.C and the dots don't connect... Do I believe in Christ blood shed for the N.C? ABSOLUTELY, But are all aspects of the N.C witnessed among us? NO, one perc. of the N.C is no need for teaching, yet we're commenting on a video of someone trying to teach others and we are doing the same as we converse... Another, the laws will be in our hearts... how are the laws in our hearts, we have the power of the spirit, and we still sin? how is this better than the O.C? People will obey In the N.C not because they are supposed to obey but because they naturally want to obey. Obedience will become habitual and second-nature. Like I said Christ shed his blood for the N.C but the promise of the N.C has not been fully realized in us. We continue to wrestle with our old sinful hearts. We still need our teachers and preachers.

@jacobsilverberg1329

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@@virtualwavs3237 Sorry if I misunderstood you. But I'm still not fully understanding. "People will obey In the N.C not because they are supposed to obey but because they naturally want to obey. Obedience will become habitual and second-nature." Are you referring to the fulfillment of the promise, the resurrection to life, or the transformation into the incorruptible at the Advent? you mean like Ephesians 1:13,14: _"And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession-to the praise of his glory."_ You enter a contract in expectation of its fulfillment, but you can not qualify for redemption unless you first enter into the agreement. A down payment has been made but the house is never owned until final payment. You remain corruptible, or in corruption until the last trumpet, the day of redemption. _"in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: “Death has been swallowed up in victory.”_ You will be changed, transformed to immortality. Then the desire to sin will have been filtered out of the corrupted DNA. It is impossible to escape sin without being unlocked from its bond by God and that only happens at the last day. But this is the contract's completion and fulfillment, not its initiation..

@jacobsilverberg1329

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@@virtualwavs3237 I realized that I didn’t address your objection - Jer. 32:32-34; Heb. 10:16. You expect that there should be obedience under the covenant. Jeremiah states that the old will not be like the new. That proves that the new is not a copy of the old under different title, as the Adventists teach. It is different in many ways, chiefly; the only command necessary for salvation is to believe. Romans 1:5; 16:26, obedience is belief. The same is also stated at Acts 6:7; 2 Thes. 1:8. John 3:36; 6:28, 29, 40 the work and will of the Father is to believe on the Son. That is the work of obedience and command of life. It is not obedience to the Law of Moses or even the prohibitions of the NC. _"But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God."_ Obedience is synonymous with belief.

@virtualwavs3237

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@@jacobsilverberg1329ok, I see your stance, I want to make sure I give an adequate answer... good points but if all you needed was to believe everyone would make it into the kingdom but “narrow is the path, only few find it” What if one believes but loves to drink… Will a drunkard inherit the kingdom? I agree 1000% with the belief in Jesus part, obviously haha but you still love(verb) the Lord right?, Even demons believe. Rev 14:12 KJV - Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments (with an S )of God and the faith of Jesus. Jesus (our never changing Lord) the one who will judge us also taught to follow the commands. Matt. 36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” 37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.” So yes belief is 1000% required for salvation it’s the 1st step, without it you can’t receive salvation or grace to repent!… but true belief/love = obedience to all of Gods word, not just parts “here” and parts “there”

Messiah died for our Sins, to do away with Torah, anti-Torah Theology.

@6969smurfy

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Please some clarity here. In what way path are you taken? Torah or anti Torah?

YOUR very own Words ROB, Messiah taught that it was lawful, to do good, and Protect Life! Blind and def ness Keeps you from acknowledging THE SABBATHS Messiah taught the Sabbath plain and simple.

@williamdecamp7343

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Read Hebrews 4 and get back to us. His rest is not found in a day and that generation of Israel that wasn’t permitted to enter into that rest kept sabbath but wasn’t permitted to enter into his rest. What is his rest? The rest of the chapter tells you, rest for your soul. The disobedience you display is the same that that generation of Israel had, no faith. Hebrews 4 tells us a sabbath rest remains it doesn’t say a sabbath “day” rest remains. Our rest is in the finished works of Christ, atonement for your sin and the assurance for your soul of eternal life.

@6969smurfy

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@williamdecamp7343 William, if you start from Hebrews 4 your not getting what is being Put Down. It starts with, quote therefore unquote. Go back to 3 "Learn what hardening of heart is" It's all about being disobedient and not led by the heart. Not your heart but his heart. We cannot talk scripture verses when we speak a different language, My words are defined by the bible itself. Your words are being defined by a greek roman latin struck. .

@salpezzino7803

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@@williamdecamp7343 where does it say that in Hebrew 4? vs 9 So then, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God

@salpezzino7803

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@@6969smurfy Idiot, what does language have to do with anything? My word with be defined by God. Too Funny

@salpezzino7803

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Mark 2:27 And he said to them, “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.

Remez + reverse Synonyms is what you are Doing, Not the Scriptures them selves, twisting to your doing.

Messiah Was made LORD of Thy Sabbaths, Now for HIS first Decree he makes the Sabbaths obsolete????? I think Not !

Solberg: don't moralize dos and don'ts. Just faith Me: OK so I can go have sex with animals? Solberg: its important we obey god Me : I thought you just said I had imputed righteousness and my obedience is filthy rags?

False prophet

The part I don't understand is your insistence on usage of the word "required" . Shouldn't a faithful servant have a desire to do anything that is even remotely pleasing to his master? Instead, in your view, unless it is required, you refuse to teach it as beneficial. Do you take this same attitude to your earthly employer? Do you only do the very minimum that will keep you from getting terminated? Pretty bad employee

False

Did Jesus enjoy healing or was it simply work? Jesus was always working. He broke every Shabbat. Here’s John McArthur on what Jesus could do on Shabbat: “ Anything he wanted to do.” And I’m not a McCarthur guy, but he’s correct.

I consider taco Tuesday special

Blessings Brother. I enjoyed this video. I did not agree completely with part 1 even though you were only giving facts, it was more because I an not sure about some facts because it was before the Lord came and Sabbath really comes alive in the bible when the Lord kept the sabbath and it is for every man and child and strangers and animals because the command itself doesn't say, Jew. moral laws are for all people no matter their race. Also, even the Pharaoh knew about rest in Exodus when Moses asked to let his people worship God in the wilderness. Sabbath was made a sign between God and us all. the mark of the beast is for those who break that commandment and it's not just Jews but Every human being in the last days. God bless you.

@Jaco3688

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You are interfusing Ellen White with the Bible. Revelation 13 provides the mandate as to when the mark of the Beast will be offered - and received - and it has nothing to do with the Sabbath, or “false Sabbath”. This is an Ellen White fiction. Mrs White is clearly in contradiction to Biblical Truth.

@ThePhatLady

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@@Jaco3688 Sorry to bust your bubble but the bible says it is the desolation of abomination and you would know that if you studied the bible because I never studied Ellen's teachings. Revelation mentions the Mark and the two beasts and because it is a prophecy it is actually Daniel and Joseph in Genesis who say in the bible that God is the interpreter of dreams, and the only way to understand the prophecies is to study the word of God with the Holy Spirit and discernment and a mentor who loves the word of God because we cannot do this on our own. The word of God the bible is where we find all the interpretations for who the beast is who the antichrist is what the mark is and the signs. Its like a trail of crumbs for me. in Matthew 24 the Lord mentions 15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) Then I had to study Daniel and found out that all throughout history, the bible prophesies in daniel were being fulfilled constantly. I studied Greek mythology and ancient civilisations before I even opened the bible and noticed Alexander the Great and Cleopatra were all in the bible and their stories showed to the chronology of events that Daniel had prophesied from the Babylonian empire that I didn't know much about except a Sumerian false religion. then the dark ages I knew had something to do with That same region of the world and as it turns out, Alexander did not have an heir so he gave his empire to his 4 generals the 4 headed leopard in Daniel, and the battle went on until the General of Alex had created a pagan nation that was given to someone and passed down until constantine and then he gave his pagan church to the Papacy. who is the dragon with teeth of iron. Iron age is the roman empire. it a;ll fits and the church is a mother church and is mentioned to be the mother of harlots. and is said to be surrounded by seven hills and that is the Vatican. I know that may be hard for you to hear but if you love the truth, the truth will make you free. God bless

@Jaco3688

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@@ThePhatLady That was a long answer, however it was non Sequitur.

@salpezzino7803

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I have to agree with the Phatt Man

@theredboneking

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@@ThePhatLady Revelation 17:9- And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. Jerusalem's seven hills are 1) Mount Scopus 2) Mount Olivet 3) Mount of Corruption 4) Mount Ophel. 5) The original Mount Zion 6) The New Mount Zion 7) The hill on which the Antonia Fortress was built. Source - Wikipedia (List of cities claimed to be built on seven hills).

Isaiah 66:23 (KJV) And it shall come to pass, [that] from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD. Many other verses speak of the end days about all other nations shall keep and worship on the Sabbath and all the Holy days . Read it for yourselves.

Galatians 2:16 (ESV): 16 yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified.

@salpezzino7803

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has Nothing to do with this, you must go to the same Church Rob does

Isaiah 66:23 (KJV) And it shall come to pass, [that] from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD. Many other verses speak of the end days about all other nations shall keep and worship on the Sabbath and all the Holy days . Read it for yourselves.