Saab Draken at Finland
Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары
Swedish Air Force Historic Flight Saab J35 Draken at Finnish 100 years anniversary airshow Jyväskylä 15.6.2018. Position 3:10 Draken engine is sterted by AVPIN system with reaction of isopropyl nitrate.
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Most everything Saab produced was exceptional, but the Draken was a work of art. . .
@Manufly59
Жыл бұрын
That is true. You can see it by looking riveting and finishing quality all over the plane.
@HahaHaha-gq8ft
9 ай бұрын
No, that was the viggen that is the work of art .
@atvheads
6 күн бұрын
@@HahaHaha-gq8ft Both.
Arguably the most beautiful jet fighter ever made. Nothing like it in looks.
@kungsverige1886
Жыл бұрын
My 'childhoodsound'...🇸🇪
The Drakenn had Impressive performance in its day. One of the best looking military aircraft of the cold war era.
@josephsmith688
2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a fighter jet from the sides and like an UFO from top and bottom^^
@azynkron
2 жыл бұрын
First western fighter to officially be super sonic. On paper Mach 2, but I heard in reality it was Mach 1.4-1.5.
@fishyfish6050
Жыл бұрын
@@azynkron That was only at low altitudes and with the earlier versions of the j-35
What a magnificent aeroplane. One of the most striking and distinctive planoforms ever made. And nice vision. Thanks for posting!
@Manufly59
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@markusweissenbock6337
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, hmmm, Scandinavian taste is different.. hmmm... You know it when you have to live and eat there... haha...
@grazynamuszynska7238
4 жыл бұрын
Czy Szwedzi nie latają juz greepenami?
SAAB (Model Draken) J 35A, started to be manufactured in 1959. Started in service 1960. It is an old airplane that does not remain in Swedish defense. There were 758 aircraft of the type "Dragon" built in different designs. The aircraft in the video is specially renovated for air shows and carries 2 extra fuel tanks. The aircraft's maximum speed is Mach 2. The flight distance without an additional fuel tank is 1 763 km. Max. flight height 19 995 meters. Rising speed 10 500 m / min. Armament 30 mm automatic gun m / 55 Robots Rb 24, Rb 27, Rb 28 Rockets 75 mm hunting missiles NOTE It's an almost 60 year old airplane!
@MrTimodon
5 жыл бұрын
And on saturdy we go to Uppsala for a magic show!Patron ladda!:)
@AdurianJ
5 жыл бұрын
The two seater SK35C Draken where all made from rebuilt early A models. One of them usually tags along in the Swedish Historic Flight
@bennywallin5252
4 жыл бұрын
Actually, the Draken kept on accelerating until it ran out of fuel, so it's one of few aircraft w/o a real recognized max speed :)
@AdurianJ
4 жыл бұрын
@@bennywallin5252 a lot of aircraft do that though.
@Hepetius100
4 жыл бұрын
No, mx speed 2,2 mach. Horizontal flight.
The sample flying in the video is a Swedish historic flight plane painted it the Scheme of the last division using it F10. Finland didnt have that late version, that was equipped with an ir seeker (visible below the front)
@Manufly59
7 ай бұрын
True!
Swedish engineering at its best. It is incredible such a small country was able to create so many damn good planes. Recently read that the Swedish AirForce was the fourth largest in the world during the Cold War. With the Saab Gripen in Swedish Inventory no one will want to mess with them.
@carpetclimber4027
3 жыл бұрын
The old military bite back from old times. We don't want to kill you, but if you want to kill us, we will kill you.
@azynkron
2 жыл бұрын
JAS 39 even gives the F35 problems. Ask the Canadians. With the ultra high-tech ECMs on it, it's virtually invisible even if it's not a "Stealth" fighter.
@xcvbxcvb2179
8 ай бұрын
To be honest, a lot of the Aero engineers and knowledge was imported from Germany after the WW2. Ni Nazi Germany was miles ahead in technology. By 1945 they had four full scale mach 4! Windtunnels, Sweden had zero.
@MrTimodon
4 ай бұрын
@@xcvbxcvb2179So Sweden is very bad now? And your country is the best?
I remember the first time I saw a picture if this beauty. As a child - it was in the late sixties - I was lost in my knowledge on fighters. I've never seen this kind of wings, with double delta... Even today, Draken appears to me like a idea cames from another thinking than the major part of the aeronautical at this time. The landing itself is a bit atttonishing, seated on the tail wheel... Gracefull manner to roll to slow down after hight speed flying. Thank you for this part of history still flying. A special interest for the very beautyfull Saab 105 too. Cheers from France for the video catching quality.
@xcvbxcvb2179
8 ай бұрын
I don't want to spoil your love for this design but... A lot of knowledge, know how and Aero engineers was imported to Sweden from Germany post 1945. All the German contribution has not been recognised by Saab or the Swedish government.
@andremetayer1467
8 ай бұрын
@@xcvbxcvb2179 You don’t break anything of my dream ! I Know all the benefit allies took about german research. Years after years, it appear however that some of the design were not so efficient. They were in addition disturb in their plans by the hard bombing raids. Added to this the poor quality of the materials they used, the cruscent rarity of the oil... The fact that some of their decisions were not the best. And some other things like the prisonners workers which have resist int the plants. All that were chance for the allies. Please be cool with my english !... I'm french and need to practice !
Draken was such a marvellous plane. That can't deny of any other.
This lady was designed in the 50s and still looks ravishing and just as fast as the JAS or F-16.
Brilliant introduction to Finland’s military aviation. This Saab Draken is put through one cycle. Stunning silhouette against the clouds!
@Manufly59
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Don. Those guys with yellow jackets are volunteer of local flight club and pilots are display visitors from Swedish air force heritage organisation. Funny thing is that you can operate old mach 2 jet fighter by two person and without ladders.
Nr 56 was from the airbase called F10 in Ängelholm in Skåne. I worked on that plane as an airplane mechanic.:) Lovely airplane!
@Manufly59
4 жыл бұрын
Cool!
Danke für diese tolle Video. Nostalgie pur.
We saw the Swedish Air Force Historic Flight Saab Draken together with the Saab Viggen last year in Volkel-The Netherlands.2 beautiful former Air Force jet planes!
The Draken retired because it's a warcrime to use fighters that gorgeous
@janseger1693
4 жыл бұрын
LOL..;)
@AdurianJ
4 жыл бұрын
@Detroit Classics Yup, it scared away the enemy !
@johnraina4828
3 жыл бұрын
@Detroit Classics it due to the swedens politicans..
I've been fortunate enough to see the Swedish Historic Flight many times over the years, and I hope that they'll be back next year, great show lads 🤓👌🍻 JIAD, CI.
I should be there, but I wasn't. I grew up with Saab J-35 Draken. It protected our airspace for over two decades! R.I.P. Saab J-35F Draken (1972-2000)
@veli-mattiniemela9795
3 жыл бұрын
Olinpa paikalla näkemässä tuon. Oli kyllä jylinää kuten Lapinlennostossa ennen.. Nostalgiset fiilikset..
This is the plane of my childhood, Draken 4ever! :)
@pumelo1
3 жыл бұрын
Mě se taky vždy líbil. Pamatuji v 70 letech ho v 1/100 dělali v NDR, byl to ten prototyp, škoda že to nebylo měřítko 1/72, A Saab 37 byl ješte hezčí. 39 je už klasický letadlo vizuelně nezajímavé.
Wow! Liked the photage, props to good filming! I am in the age to have seen Draken fly over my head when it was in service. This is soo cool to see, and I liked it very much! Draken is one of the most excentric planes of that time, but also one of the the fastest, most maneuverable and most feard in the 1960:s. Hard to fly, the pilots say, but when you learnd how to, it was one of the best! Thanks for the clip! Awesome!
@Manufly59
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Good fighter. Very functional and docile to fly, would still be useful these days in many air forces. Its silhouette is very attractive too.
When visiting my grandmother in northern Finland in the late 80's, a calm lazy afternoon was regularly interrupted by a deafening, air-ripping sound that's so caracteristic to Drakens. These were stationed in the north, whereas the MiG-21's were in the south.
Outstanding quality, really astonishing!
It looks so nice in the air... unique shape
@KOM443
5 жыл бұрын
The plane figure of the plane is unprecedented, and unfortunately, she has no successor.
@sinisasladojevic7065
5 жыл бұрын
It look like UFO
@MathiasHeinel
5 жыл бұрын
Those double delta wings does it.
The Draken is a pretty old veteran of the jet age. Sweden often produces good aeroplanes that deserve wider commercial success. Nice one Sweden.
@LNZT
2 жыл бұрын
thank you :) Maybe you should drink EVEN MORE cider after this one!
@LNZT
2 жыл бұрын
late comment, but compared to the drakens age, this is pretty much nothing.
It looks like a machine from the future.
@krycha425
3 жыл бұрын
..and it's a 60 years old model :)
That landing is hardcore
Thanks There is no doubt it is one sweet aircraft. I love how it needed training wheels to keep from damaging the rear
That Draken looked so shiny and factory new (probably better then factory new actually!). Amazing!
@hitopsful
2 жыл бұрын
I believe it is the only one still flying and it looks like they intend to keep it that way!
Good and designing too!!.......from Greece with Love!!! ;-)
The sound people....the sound ❤❤❤
She is my favorite, especially the tandem trainer-fighter.
im just insainly proud to be swedish right now
up from 0:49 there is a saab 105... The draken is faszinating - i saw him at the airshow in graz/austria at 30th of august 1999 - it was used at the austrian military
it is truelly a remarkable. fly like an angel and manouwerability is amazing.
Outstanding vid great skills all round :))
@Manufly59
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Michael
Gorgeous plane!
I remember when I was a kid like 1967 -69 they fly over our houses every week 😎
Excellent video thanks for sharing
@Manufly59
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
A plane from the 50's that looks that modern.... Strange...
@alfepalfe
4 жыл бұрын
It dosent look modern it looks futuristic
@donutsaviation2543
4 жыл бұрын
The delta wing makes it look futuristic
Such a beauty!
Power!! Absolute power!
One of the most elegant if not the most elegant double delta designs of all time. Imho of course...
This is Awesome!!!
Beautiful airplane
Wau. Olin Kuorevedellä töissä kun DK lensi viimeisen PV:n lentonsa vuonna 2000. Menivät puljassa Hornetin ja Vinkan kanssa 😉 oli vähän haasteita nopeuseron vuoksi. Hornet oli pikkuisen ketterämpi kuin tämä lentävä silitysrauta. Kiitos videosta.
Very smooth flay good quality projejet
This thing flew first time 15 years after WW2 ended
Awesome aircraft 👍👍. Subscribed
@Manufly59
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
As if you would be there- simply great!
Just say - magnificent! One of a kind! been 20 meters under one of these under full attack. Loud and and we had no chanse back in of the day. 1976 the baltic sea.
The Saab Draken is history but still a good looking kit. Quoting the Wikipedia: "The Saab 35 Draken is a Swedish fighter aircraft developed and manufactured by Saab between 1955 and 1974. It was the first fully supersonic aircraft to be deployed in Western Europe[3] and the first aircraft to do the Cobra maneuver.". What Saab provides today is the Saab JAS 39 Gripen. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_JAS_39_Gripen
Tiny bird, beautiful.
Would it still be competitive against modern fighters and if not can we somehow restore it with a few changes to the flight model to make it that way?
Draken är det snyggaste jetplanet - punkt!
Beautiful plane
De beaux avions.....bon reportage
Holy moly, that thing looks really maneuvrable qnd powerful, for some reason I like it even more than f-18 for example
@YDDES
4 жыл бұрын
It easily got into ”super stall”, with high nose and full power, crashing into the ground.
@rederos8079
4 жыл бұрын
@@YDDES It did, but does it matter? No one ever died in draken, so thats not an issue, more of a feature
Would be interesting if the latest version of the JAS39-engine could be fit into the J35. =D
Amazing machine 👏 ❤ 💪 🇬🇧
A wicked plane !
I can recognize some Saab-105 or Aubisque-motorized training plane of air to ground plane too.
Love that plane. I had it as a kid. In 1:72.
@CEOkiller
3 жыл бұрын
Me too. The Airfix kit
Nice weather!
That beautiful Draken: why is the RAT always deployed on landing? Also, how was the engine started - was that AVPIN (like the EE Lightning starter) or cartridge start?
@Manufly59
2 ай бұрын
When engine is not running, there is no hydraulic pressure, the RAT (whatis called "Milla" in Draken) hangs outside, the pressure itself takes it in. Engine is started with AVPIN (isopropyl nitrate) as you mentioned.
@jdesmo1
2 ай бұрын
@@Manufly59 Thanks. What is the starter system on the Viggen?
Such a beautiful bird. I love delta wing planes.
What is “reaction of isopropyl Nitrate “ for? I used to load Jets and never saw that done. They don’t just get the turbine up to speed and introduce fuel?
@aleksimakela6787
4 жыл бұрын
Late answer but that refers to the starter, which runs by isopropyl nitrate. It allows engine to spool up much faster than electric starter. Close to so called cartridge start, but different.
@C64SX
4 жыл бұрын
I remember filling up the tank with that fuel. You had a small barrel with the stuff on a cart and hand pumped it. Sometimes when you attached the hose to the plane, that stuff would leak a bit from the nozzle and run down your arm. Not a very nice feeling at all. I think the tank had enough fuel for three starts, maybe 10 liters in total? Someone with better memory correct me :)
The greatest fighter ever
Tunnan, Draken, Viggen, Gripen (JAS) = pretty cool from a small country.
LOOKING FROM FRONT:- OOH A NORMAL FIGHTER JET WHEN PASSES ABOVE MY HEAD :- WHAT THE FUC# THAT ALIEN SPACESHIP DOING ON EARTH 😂
It is interesting that the pilot can get off the plane without a ladder, by walking on the wing about 10 meters. 12:10
@ari1855
4 жыл бұрын
You are right. Think that most aircraft say "NO STEP" everywhere.
@C64SX
4 жыл бұрын
In the summers you could lie on the wings enjoying the sun. Great aircraft in many ways :)
It's a shame there are no videos left from the original Draken simulators in KZread, or has someone seen one (the computer, control board and the plane with hydraulic jacks)? I have cleaned some parts back in 1993 as a student engineer, but would love see a glimse of those after all these years.
@Manufly59
Жыл бұрын
Look this www.ilmailumuseoyhdistys.fi/uutiset.html?57 and this kzread.info/dash/bejne/gGx6zKOGo9bNipc.html
@iam5085
Жыл бұрын
@@Manufly59 Based on the link below, the simulator was made by Curtiss-Wright Corp? The similator at Rovaniemi back then had at least three rows of cabins 4-6 meters each, there was one main switch which occasionally flew sparks when the computer was turned on (ate Amps), the operators/flight instructors table was towards the fighter, the first half of the fighter was resting on top of 3 hydraulic jacks which tilted/rolled the fighter, there was no graphical user interface at all - only analog meters, non-transparent canopy, gravity and tightening of the seat belts gave the 3D immersion inside the fighter, lights would turned on in the canopy when flying over clouds, if the fighter stalled there was a piece of metal producing from the stick and it vibrated according to the stall. The contacts in each circuit board needed to be cleaned occasionally while wearing a mask that got fresh air from a back pack. Fond memories from a short Time with this beast, marvelous engineering from the 1960 era. www.aef.se/Flygvapnet/Notiser/Simulator/Simulator_Notis_2.htm
@MrTimodon
4 ай бұрын
Last year i flew the simulator in Arboga. It was not that easy to land i can tell! But big fun!
F-35 Draken the most ikonic aircraft ever Just listen to the name Draken 😈
Its an odd beast with a huge rear orifice, tiny front intakes, a tail wheel and a wind generator underneath!!!
@Manufly59
4 жыл бұрын
Look also this (sorry finnish language only) kzread.info/dash/bejne/qIB7qa2hps7Hhqg.html
Such a beautiful beast! The fuel tanks remind me of testicles underneath.
Häftigt som faaaan!!!!
離着陸の距離の短さと整備の速さがドラッケンの良い所
Thank you very much for your nice video! I heard that J35 retired already, but is this J35 a collection thing in a museum or something?
@henkka410
6 жыл бұрын
Misäka Shingёki yep in sweden they have swedish airforce historic flight association whitch flies and maintains these aircraft.
@Manufly59
6 жыл бұрын
Finnish Air Force had total of 48 Drakens in service but we have not any in flying condition. Last flight of type was at August of 2000.
@zoom5024
6 жыл бұрын
Sweden had 758 Drakens in different versions, now only 1 exist in Sweden...
@MrTimodon
5 жыл бұрын
In Gotenburg museum, i saw it for a three weeks ago!
@MathiasHeinel
5 жыл бұрын
In flying condition, that is. Grounded specimen isn't that uncommon.
These planes look like something out of an old Godzilla movie..Swedish built planes (SAAB)r pretty awesome 👌
Nice, the pilot can get out without a ladder. And it looks upgraded. The landing looked like it needs a proper pilot though, while the trend seems to go to flying arcade machines. Let's hope these will be around for a while longer.
Coll video
@Manufly59
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
Rovaniemellä nähny nuita joka päivä about vuodesta 84+ kaunein silhuetti. On hornettikin hieno.
They still use these!!!
The Unusual silhouette would have had people going WTF ! . Is that an actual Foo-Fighter ?! Like something out of Star Wars .
When I was in the Swedish youth airforce, sort of like the boy scouts within the airforce. I was a total viggen fanboy, yes it was way back and i am and old fat guy now, and of course i also thought the F-14 tomcat was all that :), what young adolescent didn't in those days ;o). I heard people speaking of this aircraft with reverens saying that the old school draken pilots could do things with that airplane that viggen pilots could only dream of. I am not saying it was better performance wise just that it could do some amazing flying. This is also hearsay as i have not witnessed any fancy flying in the draken. Just the genuine respectful way they talked about it made me respect this airplane a lot more.
@MrTimodon
5 жыл бұрын
Yes, but dont forget the Mig Fulcrum!
@AdurianJ
5 жыл бұрын
Well the Viggen being an attack aircraft first only had a slightly tighter turn circle than the Draken. The main thing with the Viggen was the electronics, there where some pretty bad ass Draken modernization's looked at before the Gripen project was green lit, most included giving in canards some even turning it into an attack aircraft with RBS 15's and everything !
@Ronnymikkonen2686
4 жыл бұрын
Jag var också med i flygarpojkarna. Bästa ungdomsminnerna därifrån. Säve, Såtenäs, Malmen, och högkvarteret i lilla bommen.
Sexiest jet ever. It is the epitome of style mated with substance. Like a Jaguar E type in the sky.
Ett vackert stridsflygplan!
ドラケン、ビゲン、グリペン。高速道路からでも短距離離陸できる凄い戦闘機。
Otherwise nice but very disturbing when the forests in the landscape are clear-cut!
very cool
Loudest jet fighter ever
Kaunis kone hienoa kun Suomella oli näitä.
....but charming!!!!
Veri nais!
What a beauty she is 😎
Never knew this aircraft had ventral gear.
Hmm, a conventional tail dragger jet??
AVPIN start. "Run for cover!!"
Någea minuters "reminder"!
Good pilot
ilyen csuda gépet már rég lehetett látni