On a 9--3 V6 2008 you can pull R8 relay in the engine fuse box and wire 30 and 87 to start the car as long as you can get the ignition on! I get this occasional problem off not cranking when the car gets hot in the engine bay, never when it cold. So I'm currently waiting for this problem to reappear and then I will pull apart the ABS module to effect this repair. FYI the ICM goes via the ABS to the ECU before it will try to start the car and they are all married, so this make the car had to steal! Hence you need a GM Tech2 to marry parts when they fail and cannot be repaired! Hang in there, there is a logical path to resolve this! Thanks DC Engineering for posting this🙂

@JRosey777

2 ай бұрын

Okay I had this problem yesterday, no start. I tried the fuse box R8 and wire 30 and 87 and it would crank but not start! I tried to take the ABS module connector off and couldn't due to Maptune strut bar. However after fiddling with the connector it started 👍 So, now I'm removing the ABS Electronic module. On RHD V6 its easier if you take out the battery box, torx 40 screws (3) and undo the auxiliary fuse boxes. Good time to check earths under the box. You take the 10mm bolts(2) out of the bracket that hold the ABS module in place, the Torx 15 screws(4) are fiddle to remove. 1/4 ratchet drive will do the top two and you can start the unwind/crack the bottom ones. You don't need much as its only a couple turns to release them from Hydraulic ABS case. I have small hands and could turn the Torx 15 by my fingers. The ABS separated easily with just a small flick of a screw driver towards the bottom. Off to a friend's electrical engineering business to refurb the solder connections, also need neutral cure sealant to put the electronic side back together and 3mm O ring cord to put the hydraulic and electronic side together! will post results.

This problem has been such a pain and the guys at the local dealership were worthless. Found your video and followed the steps. So far so good! You re the man, THANKS!!

I finally got time to do mine, followed exact instructions, resoldered and its a week now and the car did not show any error!! Hope it stays like that.

I tried the repair and it worked perfectly. Thank you very much for documenting this and putting it online.

Thank you for this video wish I would have seen it sooner but still sooo helpful- bless you!!!

This worked for me as well! Having a right hand drive car did make getting the ECU off the ABS more difficult. I removed the battery and battery box. I also cracked the brake booster vacuum line in the process, that I had to repair.

@julianm5333

2 жыл бұрын

i took the battery box off and still couldn't get it off. Even once I got the torx screws off.

I did it Works great Hardest part was opening module Thank you

Thanks...i had to remove the battery tray...my baby up & running...

This fuckin abs is so hard to separate from the other thing in an American 9-3 v6. Almost think I gotta take that valve thing off too, but when I do (brake fluid?) comes out...

Very hard to hear but seems helpful

I’m actually currently looking at an 08 2.8t and it has an abs issue where it won’t start. I’m considering buying it after this

Hi, turbos are cool! After watching your video I now have the courage to fix my abs module on my 2000 Saab 9-5 Aero. I bought the Aero with the Christmas lights and no working speedometer or odometer. Recently swapped out Abs module from a 2003 Aero and now speedometer and odometer work as well as break pedal feels a lot more solid! Oh and my turbo spools up nicely too with full boost!! It would only boost halfway before. What is the name of your soldering tool? Can I get one from Amazon? Thanks again for the awesome vid! Cheers 🍻

@pineapplejonny5655

2 жыл бұрын

You can buy soldering kits at most auto parts stores and home improvement stores if you don't want to order one.

Amazing

Hello...i have a 07 Saab 9-3 Aero Convertible...how did you remove the 4 hex screws.....

@Sonic_Dave

Жыл бұрын

Hi Lawrence, I used a short torx driver bit with a 1/4” spanner to turn it. Yes it’s very tight and tricky but easier than removing the entire ABS assembly

What thermal paste did you use and how did you apply it? What did you use to remove the old thermal paste?

Speedo stops working when hot and when I slam the brakes. Can't wait to try this and get my car working again

Same dumb problem here with my 93 I detached the abs module harness thing and click it back down takes two secs and it always starts I’m going to replace soon 😔

I cannot get this damn thing out...

Were you getting any error messages on the dashboard? Mine always says "Traction Control Failure" and then it dies on the spot. My (former) Saab dealership mechanic is having a really tough time figuring out what's going on with my car. He thought it was the ABS module. He didn't have an ABS module for a 4-cylinder so he temporarily put one on for a 6-cylinder. It worked like a charm for about 5 days and then it died yesterday while driving. This is so frustrating. I know nothing about cars so I have to use a mechanic to work on it.

Hey, thanks for the video. Is this fix still working out well for you?

@Sonic_Dave

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Ronnie, over 9 months and not one instance of the original error. Starts every time.

@RonnieTheFinBear

4 жыл бұрын

@@Sonic_Dave awesome, thanks a lot for reporting back!

I see that you only soldered one line of connectors. Is that all I need to do ? You also mentioned checking for dry connection. How did you do that ? Did you use standard soldering tool or did you use something special for electronic circuit board. Did this fix the issues completely or did it ever come back ?

@DC_Engineering

Жыл бұрын

Mr. Turbo, I resoldered all the through hole connections, it may look like only one row but I think I sped up the video to make it shorter. I used a standard hobby grade soldering station and standard Lead solder. This repair was made about 3 years ago and I haven’t had one problem yet (apart from coil problems, but that’s another video coming soon)

@MrTurbo-xl3le

Жыл бұрын

@@DC_Engineering great. Thank you

@MrTurbo-xl3le

Жыл бұрын

Awesome. Did it and so far so good. It's been two weeks. 🤙👍.

Thanks for posting this video; this would have been more helpful with a bit of more detail. Especially, how did you manage to open the 4 torque screws in that tight space without removing the battery and the ABS Pump ? How did you manage to put the module back in without bending the pin/connector that goes into the Module slot at the bottom ? How did you figure what connections are to be re-soldered ? I had removed the ABS Module and sent it to BBA Reman and they returned to me without any clear indication either they cannot fix it or the module is faulty or not. They refused to give me the findings of their tests on the unit. Any ideas to share ?

@DC_Engineering

4 жыл бұрын

Abdul Samad thanks for your comments. I noticed when editing that I had missed the 4 torx screws, I used a short torx driver in a 1/4” socket with a small ratchet handle it was quite fiddly but I didn’t have to remove the battery or any of the break lines. When the two bolts holding down the module are removed it can lift up and slide over towards the engine just enough to allow the electronics module to be removed and put back in. I inspected all the solder joints but could not see any that were dry or bad, I was really taking a guess at this point, I resoldered all the connector pins and so far it is working perfectly.

@AbdulSamad-rf5lh

4 жыл бұрын

@@DC_Engineering Thanks for the additional information; I will try to remove it once again and give it a try after re-soldering it. Will comment for the results.

@DC_Engineering

4 жыл бұрын

Abdul Samad are you sure it’s the abs module? What dtc’s are you getting? Does the car start? If you wiggle the connector on the abs module does it make a difference?

@AbdulSamad-rf5lh

4 жыл бұрын

I finally got time to do mine, followed exact instructions, resoldered and its a week now and the car did not show any error 👍😁 Hope it stays like that 😬

@speakersboy76

4 жыл бұрын

@@AbdulSamad-rf5lh How long did this repair last? I have the same code u0212 intermmitent. Thanks

What did you use to glue the lid back onto the module? Or did you not use any? Thanks in advance!

@Sonic_Dave

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Ricardo, I used a grey silicone engine gasket sealant material. The original seal is the same. There are no fasteners holding the cover on so I held it in place with cable ties until it had cured.

@RicardoSNava

3 жыл бұрын

@@Sonic_Dave awesome thanks!

What kind ofSoldering material Did u use ? N thanks

@Sonic_Dave

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Scott, the solder I use is 60/40 tin,lead with a rosin flux core.

Imma try this and let yall know how it went. My car starts sometimes lol its bipolar.

@Sonic_Dave

3 жыл бұрын

Good luck Julio I hope it works out for you

@JohnnyCage4Real

Жыл бұрын

Did it work?

Keep in mind as I bought all the material to resolder everything and it still didn't help, took it to the shop and it was the female pins in the connector and NOT the ABS module itself....so fack me still $200.

@kevinrios8127

Жыл бұрын

I suspect the same on mine. I resoldered the abs module and am concerned I got some of the gasket maker on the coil. I button it all up and still no start however that could be because I didn't add brake fluid. I had to remove the whole assembly to get the module out.

HI What is the thermal paste used for thanks

@DC_Engineering

2 жыл бұрын

The thermal paste is used to make a connection between the solenoid drive FETs and the housing. Basically helping to keep the electronic parts cool. I used some left over CPU paste from a recent computer build

@michaeltomczyk3311

2 жыл бұрын

@@DC_Engineering TY i am trying it this weekend

@michaeltomczyk3311

2 жыл бұрын

This was very helpful did u remove the old thermal paste or just put on top of the old Thanks again

@DC_Engineering

2 жыл бұрын

I just popped some new stuff on top

How long did this repair last?

@Sonic_Dave

4 жыл бұрын

Malikijah Duvall the fault has not returned yet. I would surmise the fault was a dry joint on the main connector and the repair should be permanent.

Still working?

@Sonic_Dave

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Ivan yes it’s been over a year and still working perfectly every time.

Overall this was"generally" helpful, but not"specifically" helpful. Right Hand drive cars have A LOT more room next to the ABS module than LH drive models. Would be better to show and list the size of the torx head driver. Hoping I can even get it out at all.

@jerryduffey1118

4 жыл бұрын

On LH drive, the brake master cylinder is next to the ABS module. Proper removal would be to remove the battery and the battery box first.