So sorry Driver 26, looks like it hurt. Crashes suck. My opinion: started with an early apex entering Turn Three, and early power. Off into grass, looked like all would be well, but you are steering left, and the grass is slippery, so steering does not respond much. When you return to pavement, you are still steering, but only slightly left. This destabilizes the S2K a bit, added to going over the curb, but listen careefully to the engine note. Just when all is about to be fine, you give it a shot of power. Too soon, my brother. This seals your fate, kicking the destabilized car sideways. Then you correct well, but only a half turn. Keep quick as you can adding steering correction. Hand over hand, even release wheel like a drifter. You coulda caught this, sorry no offense, just straight scoop. More correction, then if you catch slide, quick as you can recovery the steering back to straight ---- the whole time staying away from the gas and brake. Stop a slide with your hands, your steering. See how your steering is only a half-turn? Keep going bro. til you stop the slide, then keep looking where you want to be, down the track not the wall, and snap steering back straight again. This is skidpad training. Skip Barber car control clinic is where I learned ir and taught it in 90's. See you at the track!

@wwhite36

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly right on the early apex. I didn't brake hard enough either and understeered. This was the first session of the day at 8:30am, so the grass was wet and tires were hot. I had a maintainence throttle across the grass because I didn't want to get stuck. I steer left while in the grass so I could meet up with the track in the course direction instead of flying across the track to the wall on the other side. What you hear when I re-enter the track is actually the end of my landscaping noise then me coming off the throttle directly after. I didn't blip the throttle. As soon as I hit the pavement I was a passenger. Even though I didn't put in a lot of steering input it had absolutely no effect on the trajectory of the car. What I feel would have helped the most was not trying to maintain movement across the grass and let the car decelerate. It would have been better to get stuck or reenter slowly.

@wwhite36

2 жыл бұрын

Also, how did you find my video? Its gotten a ton of views out of no where.

@Sethekk11

2 жыл бұрын

@@wwhite36 Cars attract car people. This video just appeared through the algorithm. The sad death of an S2k is depressing in every language. :(

@DirtyEnglish89

2 жыл бұрын

oh shet it's Randy Pobst

@cocainecowboy1717

2 жыл бұрын

@@wwhite36 got recommended this video after watching some V6 Accord turbo kit videos lol

Sometimes when you wanna go right you have to turn left. -Doc Hudson

@xhdstar

3 жыл бұрын

a man of culture.

@northatlantictreatyorganiz4696

2 жыл бұрын

thats drift

@nighttrain1565

2 жыл бұрын

@@northatlantictreatyorganiz4696 watch the movie Cars lolol

@gonzalopizarrosanchez2081

2 жыл бұрын

Best

@kiddrew3409

2 жыл бұрын

bruh i was thinking the exact same thing the first time i saw this vid 😂

Whenever I play this map on Forza I always go off on the exact place you did, I can only image how scary it is in real life.

@johnd9357

2 жыл бұрын

Not that bad. I be 2 wheeling across t3 all the time. This was just a miscalculation that sadly resulted in a stuffing. Hope he’s repaired and back on track soon.

@nogem1

2 жыл бұрын

Called the scene of the accident in advance for the same reason

@kylepiggins3064

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnd9357 oooooo your so brave.

@isaacsrandomvideos667

2 жыл бұрын

same

@ryanrake2714

2 жыл бұрын

@Dominick I agree. S2000s seem kinda trippy. I’m not speaking from experience but I think when you take a look at this thing and it’s 9000 rpms it’ll be a demanding vehicle. I really thought the driver had saved it. But he just couldn’t keep it straight(not saying that I could had either).

"Oh that's not a crash, that's just 4 off. And we're back on pavement. Oh the rear! Oh the wall!"

By the looks of the skid marks, hasn’t been the first time someone has crashed at that exact spot

@EazyDuz18

2 жыл бұрын

why are you checking the drivers drawers bro

@rallyrcrr

4 ай бұрын

You’re correct, it’s not completely his fault, the track has grass where it should have sand giving no control for drivers to stop. At those speeds might as well be ice. It’s his fault for missing the turn, it’s the tracks fault for an off area more dangerous than it should be.

Sorry this happened. I was surprised you spun like that, thought when you hit the grass you were slowing down and had car under control.

@PatrickMasonBurke

5 жыл бұрын

no, his problem was turning the wheel at speed on the grass, as he came back onto the concrete the front would grip with the rear stil loose, causing the spin. would have been better to keep wheel straight

@stylin60es

3 жыл бұрын

@@PatrickMasonBurke people always think they know everything

@stylin60es

3 жыл бұрын

@@sonacphotos Appreciate you stay safe 🇺🇸

@heyaisdabomb

3 жыл бұрын

@@sonacphotos Can't say I would have done better, but I agree, the turn on the grass sealed his fate. If I had a choice I would have let the car go straight and hit the brakes a bit. But also, I'm a subie guy so I don't really think about tail fishing like this. More reason for awd...

@gamemastr7

3 жыл бұрын

@@sonacphotos Lucky. I was going to build a 90's Celica into the GT Four but I opted out and got an Impreza gc8 and now I'm starting to build it into a version 6 STI.

1:47 we can see tire traces from other very similar crashes at the same spot. Tricky area

@kingkong0829

2 жыл бұрын

If thats the case, that area should be sand traps not grass

I know this is 5 years old but props for posting this. It isn't easy to post a loss or mistake. Respect.

“That was some of the finest driving I’ve ever seen.. until the crashing part”-whomever gave you Rex (BF4)

@maximopineiro5860

2 жыл бұрын

Man of culture right here

@kuiper921

2 жыл бұрын

Dunn!

@keegyweegy7803

2 жыл бұрын

DUNN!

@FurryWrecker911

2 жыл бұрын

The line is "Nice play, Recker. That's some of the finest driving I've ever seen... right there until the end" and it was said by Staff Sergeant William Dunn.

@joshfrank1680

2 жыл бұрын

No putting anyone down, but wht was impressive to u about this? I don't consider myself anything, but a novice with experience of driving a car abit differently than most, but this is the same stuff we do on shitty back rd for fun.

Shout out to the track designers who decided placing concrete barriers on the side of a racing track instead of, I don't know, maybe tires or something with shock-absorbing qualities. Concrete walls are known as a race car driver's "Best Friend". Also, inline with this genius, scattering nails on the asphalt would probably give more traction in curves.

@codymoe4986

Жыл бұрын

Well hell, if track safety is such a big concern of yous, I suppose you donated some money and/or materials to help NERF this terribly dangerous track? Or maybe you started a GoFundMe or pledge drive? Some raffle tickets maybe? Nah, guessing all you're good for is talking shit and not doing jack shit...good luck to those drivers!

@nzdefrag

10 ай бұрын

@@codymoe4986 Give him a break, he just forgot to name all the SAFE tracks he has designed. Probably too busy accepting "Safest Track Guy EVER" award to respond.

@XOX-fs4ww

7 ай бұрын

That's whybyou race at an airport. No walls!

@CamTooling

6 ай бұрын

lmao nah Road Atlanta is perfect as is. If i end up in a concrete barrier or a coffin it’s my skill issue nothing to do with the track

@lukelaw8981

6 ай бұрын

@@CamTooling Fun fact, the turn at the bottom of the hill used to have very little run off, it basically had the wall at the side of the short straight before 7 and 8 and the wall alongside the outside of the esses meet, until a guy went off there and got buried under the tires, car and all in its entirety!

I felt a bit of your pain the moment you the wall. I hope you a speedy repair on your s2k

@wwhite36

5 жыл бұрын

Probably 2 months left on the repair

@rhtythefirst484

3 жыл бұрын

Is it doing ok?

@Akotski-ys9rr

3 жыл бұрын

All I felt was the headache after something like that

@Yomomsaltima

2 жыл бұрын

Speedy!!!!

@iHaveTheDocuments

2 жыл бұрын

@@rhtythefirst484 guess not

been there, done that! my first race as a novice, fortunately i just flews over the ditch, 260Z ended with a lot more camber than I started with

@littleweirdprincess

2 жыл бұрын

I shouldn't have laughed at that, I'm sorry

@ryanrake2714

2 жыл бұрын

@@littleweirdprincess yeah, same here

@JoeOvercoat

5 ай бұрын

“For Sale: one slammed 260Z, only raced on Saturdays.”

Thank you for uploading this. You probably saved hundreds of people from crashing the same way.

I hope he is ok. He was driving so well. And the handling was great also. I hope he gets a speedy recovery!!!

@papaidolatrine2499

2 жыл бұрын

Sloppy wheel control

@Chattsteezy

2 жыл бұрын

@SaltLife Wow. Who hurt you?

@jackyback2578

2 жыл бұрын

@SaltLife Are you 12? because you read like you are.

@dhillaz

2 жыл бұрын

@@Chattsteezy He is just living up to his username

@Chattsteezy

2 жыл бұрын

@@dhillaz Parents didn’t love him growing up so he’s an internet tough guy now.

He wasn’t the only one look at the tire marks going straight to the wall where he hit

Everyone’s worst nightmare when bringing their baby to track day.

@thermionictube7832

5 жыл бұрын

Not really, except for this track. It'll toss your ass into a wall thinking that it wouldn't after you lazily go over the infamous corner that you're supposed to go around

@bryangallardo1071

2 жыл бұрын

Ricer

@angelgjr1999

2 жыл бұрын

He would’ve been fine if he let go of the brakes, braking hard in grass is a big no no. Then he lost control once he got back into the track. He should’ve just steered and not brakes.

@bryangallardo1071

2 жыл бұрын

@@angelgjr1999 Ricer & Takuache

A friend of mine totalled his 350Z in that same spot in a similar way. They need a soft barrier of some sort..

@Daschickenify

2 жыл бұрын

Barriers and runoff areas are a weak spot for road atlanta unfortunately.

@iliveinthewoods

2 жыл бұрын

@@Daschickenify Yeah and I remember when RA was REALLY dangerous.

Even the best have accidents. Glad you're ok brother

Thanks for posting this. It is a really good tool for learning for amateur drivers like myself, it taught me to always have a straight wheel when rejoining grippy tarmac from the grass.

Sorry to see this but any reason why after the back end coming out when you get back on track from the grass, you don't countersteer more? Genuine question.

this is the 4th s2000 crash KZread recommended me wtf

Happens so quick! Glad you're ok

Damn, it looked like was going to be able to save it, at the beginning

Geez man the car just kept sliding. That grass is like wet glass. Glad you’re ok, hope repairs went well.

1:43 let go of the gas and go where ever the car leads you. Good driving tho!!

Brother, when re-entering a track, STRAIGHT WHEEL…your front tires will bite first while the inside rear will stay in the grass. Glad you’re ok. Race car’s damage buffs right out.

Oh wow man! Glad you are ok.

I wouldn't have done any better, but it looks to me like keeping the wheel straight would have been better when you went into the grass. you were turning it to the left and all of a sudden the front right wheel got traction and you were pulled into the wall.

@willojames9910

2 жыл бұрын

you're right, should've just let it run straight over the grass back onto the track.

what did you learn from this crash and from rewatch the crash clip?

Those kind of crash sucks af 😥 Hope you're back up and running soon!

Why you have the steering turned when you on the grass?

Those turns caught up on you. Going across the grass seemed like the right thing to do as you weren't going to make that next turn. Curb got you off line and tough hit. Been there myself in a different circumstance. Happy you are OK.

Wow! That was some great driving! Really wasnt expecting the crash as you were slowing down and playing it safe at the last 10 seconds

Argh, man, you are unlucky. From that initial little off, there was no way I thought it would end that way.

Dude … real sorry to see this you were going so well!

Are you entering 4th at 80mph? I would've expected longer gears from these cars (unless aftermarket of course)

Went so smoothly over the grass that I thought nothing was gonna happen

What rear view mirror is that?

I remember doing this dozens of times playing Assetto Corsa on my brother's racing sim. Tough break, fella.

For speed I have nothing useful to add, certainly not over Randy lol... But for building recovery instincts on a real world budget, the single best thing you can do is buy a clapped drift missile for 1-3k, weld the diff and go to drift events. Don't even need a manual or handbrake if the auto has "L" and "2" lockouts. Many events have both skidpads and road course, and often times the road courses will have 2nd or 3rd gear entries around 50-65mph depending on how grippy the setup is, but learning the handwork and building an intuition for that saved me from driving my FD off the side of a mountain at TOD, and from a similar situation to this video in my drift car where I hit a short patch of black ice on the interstate, got a few degrees out of line, and had to be ready to catch a snap whenever the pavement was back under the tires. Also, you might actually have fun! If you go this way and need tires - Kenda Kaiser and Landsails are pretty grippy and super cheap. I get 6hrs of drifting with the landsails. Kendas are slightly better but grippier than I need.

I had to yell oh no outloud as soon as i saw it on course for the wall. everyone in this starbucks is looking at me funny now lmao

@benvalenz1888

2 жыл бұрын

He forgot he was driving a RWD from what that felt like

First mistake everyone makes is slamming the brakes to lock up which completely screws you ability to catch the back end. Whenever trying to catch the rear end DONT APPLY BRAKES and get off the pedals completely and just counter steer for correction.

@chuckystang

2 жыл бұрын

Sounded to me like he was on the throttle over the grass...

@brandon33371

11 ай бұрын

bruh what? if youre in the grass with no turning back the only thing to do is get on the brakes if he ripped tf outta his e brake he could have save some of the beating his car took

Awesome driving man! Some of the best I’ve seen. Almost seemed like you forgot where you were on the track. Hope you get back up and running soon!

I was rooting for you when it cleared up but that jump back into grip. I feel for you dude. 💔

Nice driving before the wreckage the car looked to stiff on the front end 💥😂

Locking the brakes during the countersteer also sealed the fate, however if you over corrected and spun in the middle of the track it could have led to a head on collision from another driver so… it’s a tricky situation with split second decisions to make. It happens man. Do what you can to salvage the car and get back out there!

That's why I only drive rentals on the track with a fake ID and stolen credit card.

@asahokage

2 жыл бұрын

LMFAOOO

Damb, that hurt. Very sad. Excellent driving however!

That skid seems weird did u hit the brakes?

why did u stop at 90 degree angle countersteer?

If you slip on the grass, don't fight. Leave it controlled, DO NOT USE THE BRAKE INITIALLY. Take your foot off the accelerator, and downshift as the primary means of braking. Be calm and aware of the distance from the walls and the possibility of returning to the asphalt. And pray.

Yoo what the heck is your steering feedback

You handled a potentially catastrophic situation really well. 👍

@westfieldracer

Ай бұрын

He was a passenger, he didn't handle 💩

Man, looked like you had it saved. Tough break, but happens to all of us though.

I'm curious how many of you would do competition driving with no roll bar?

Was the impact only about 30mph ? It’s a total loss? Damn

I can't imagine the non physical pain the driver is going trough if he loves that car

Very tricky part of the track, they’ve been needing tires there for years. Definitely feel ur pain. Also KZread random algorithms brought me here…

Amazing how much speed the car is still carrying when it hits the wall! Almost looks like he save @ 1:43

@bleachit42

2 жыл бұрын

not enough sauce. when in doubt, throttle out

Did you have a HANS / head restraint?

@wwhite36

4 жыл бұрын

Yes I did.

Nice driving, but some mistakes I saw were: countersteereed too late (after getting off the grass), applied brakes when the slide was too deep in (brakes made him turn even more), and held the steering wheel in a crash

@blancA4blanc

2 жыл бұрын

it is really hard to let go of the steering wheel before a crash, goes against almost every instinct one have.

Damn dude that was an intense wreck. Did you get another one?

@wwhite36

5 жыл бұрын

Actually, I am in the middle of fixing this car.

@nitrous36

5 жыл бұрын

@@wwhite36 Cool. I feared it was a total loss.

@wwhite36

2 жыл бұрын

@Stanley D it was bent. I had it to have it straightened then an entire front clip welded on.

@DAINSLEF

2 жыл бұрын

@@wwhite36 Rough crash, but a good learning experience regarding rejoining . I'm glad you are OK.

Oh, thank godness you're alright.

Would it have been better to feather the throttle coming off the grass to keep weight over the rear axle? Instead of braking which would transfer all the weight to the front and make the back swing around since it was too light.

Best to you sir

When the Track owner can't afford to have a Tire wall all around the circuit.

@EazyDuz18

2 жыл бұрын

it aint a snowflake circuit

Wondering wether he could have saved it if he turned left and made her spin out instead of tryna go straight

This is mayhem....are you covered?

@wwhite36

5 жыл бұрын

I was not

Did you brake at all on the grass section? I wonder if that would've slowed you down enough to avoid the crash

@ezpz4659

Жыл бұрын

It would have. He was too prideful.

@_M3NACE_

Жыл бұрын

@@ezpz4659 it’s tough to call imo. Not saying you’re wrong, it’s just you never know who thinks what in these close calls or how they respond at the time. It might be different if they had the time to prep you know. I’ve had a few razor close calls but the times I’ve been able to avoid them, it’s just fight or flight instincts taking over. Sometimes you get both, sometimes one or the other. It’s a weird thing

1:47 1:48 were you brake-locking wheels when the car understeer? angle of attack too steep? any idea why it would not steer the right way?

@wwhite36

2 жыл бұрын

Hot tires on wet grass made the car slide

@blancA4blanc

2 жыл бұрын

@@wwhite36 Thanks, after posting the question i also went that rabbit of reading Randy's comment and the whole discussion that developed after that. Amazing driving skills nonetheless.

I crashed mine the exact same same.. crushed the front frame all the way to the passenger tire.. it spam after it hit the wall and hit it again on passenger side. Car is unrepairable. These cars handle very very well but takes a very skilled driver to push it at its limits. Hope your ok, cars are replaceable but your life isn't. Stay safe

@randypobstofficial

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear that, Just...

I’m just putting this out there but isn’t the airbag on the wrong side?

That shit after thought when you realise you were counter-steering into the wall

Well it was good driving up until that point. Looked like you had the car under control at first too but that wall came up surprisingly fast.

2 serious questions.... would insurance pay for the car if its totaled in this scenario? also, how did the passenger airbag deploy with the drivers steering wheel airbag module removed? wouldnt the SRS lamp be on brandishing the SRS system to default off?

@wwhite36

2 жыл бұрын

1.Track insurance would pay for this. 2. No. System was not disabled. It was still installed. Just without a driver airbag.

@TheGroundBeef

2 жыл бұрын

@@wwhite36 oh ok so is track insurance like a regular car policy but specifically for racing?

Man that was painful to watch…. Hope all is well

i shed a tear for the S2K.

You were doing so good... awesome car

Why did you you hit "Y" to rewind ?

Kinda late to the party, but: NO steering wheel inputs when encountering changing conditions(e.g. re-entering track)! The S2k is balanced to rotate well under normal track conditions. Increase the rotation by having the rear tyres on grass and you have a beyblade.

Oh dude, that sucks. I'm sorry. Did you get the car back out?

@wwhite36

Жыл бұрын

Yes. I have restored the car

how could he hold it there?

Nice race, sad crash… take you like good friend.

Damn, was looking like a solid lap too.

The man has pace! Spinning out to the inside sucks. Hope all ok.

Hope you recover ok buddy

Always hard to see a track mishap. I put in many a fun lap at Road Atlanta. Occasionally there would be a driver who didn't complete the event but is was rare. Sometimes drivers just have mental lapses or their ego exceeds their ability. At lunch Panoz Racing, who ran the events, would have their driver sit with us and give us feedback. Some of the stories were wild. I only had one close call when I had partial brake failure heading into 10A. After I crested the hill (~160 MPH) I braked at the 300 ft mark and fortunately held the turn.

Sorry to see this happen. What I notice here is the brake, normally when you on grass and anticipating pavement change while the wall is not right in front, the last thing you want to do is brake. If you just lift and brake after went over grass, I think you should be fine. In this example, you brake and front tire got to pavement first while rear still in grass, then it's definitely a spin plus you have steering angle.

@wwhite36

5 жыл бұрын

I never hit the brakes. The grass was wet (morning session) , tires were hot, which caused the car to slide once I hit the pavement

What a boom, hope you ok!

i died inside alil watching this i hope you got it rebuilt

Wow he was driving very well up until that corner.

Looks like the tires once touching the Tarmac. We're still spinning at different speeds. So no balance to the car at that speed.

Guys this was literally 3 years ago

At least it died doing what it was made and loved to do. Better than a t bone accident or crashing into a tree.

I think it could've been saved with counter steer and a little handbrake. At least that helps me on wet/icy/dirt roads during rally. But heat of the moment, and I'm sure you know what you're doing with your car more than I do, especially since I've never driven an s2000

Why the driver's airbag didn't deploye ?

That speed and no airbags gotta hurt

Hope you were ok? Sorry about this nasty Crash

Just a little excursion across the grass, no big dea- oh... oh no... OH NO.

Ouch! Wish that was a tire barrier instead. And more runoff space.

@wwhite36

5 жыл бұрын

Man, I do too. The walls are so close to the track and there's not a lot of tire barriers.

@randypobstofficial

2 жыл бұрын

@@wwhite36 So true Driver 26. Road Atlanta has improved a lot, but they still need softer barriers in front of that bare concrete; everywhere. I'm glad you are okay. @nitrous36. youi are so right.

@wwhite36

2 жыл бұрын

@@randypobstofficial the Randy Pobst! We met one at NCM Park in Bowling Green, KY a few years ago. Cool to know you watch one of my videos A little more brake and later turn-in and this could have been avoided.