This was overclockingly helpful - thank you so much my friend

I've noticed on my 5600x that setting the ppt/tdc/edc as high as possible doesn't actually result in highest sustained boosts despite not hitting any thermal limits. Dropping them to 110-120W ppt and 75-85A edc gives the best combination of power consumption and sustained multicore boost/performance. 110W ppt and 75A edc have slightly lower performance/sustained multicore boost but are also 6-7 degrees C cooler, 120W ppt and 85A edc is a bit faster but also hotter. The only thing increasing the ppt/edc above that is make it run at the same frequencies using higher voltages and get hotter. Undervolting it more might give better performance, but I think I'm pretty much at the max my chip can do (-17, -19, -8 (fastest core), -19, -19, -12 (second fastest core)... Anything about -17 for the first core and above -8 for the fastest core gives whea errors/crashes under load after ~20 min. And -17, -21, -8, -21, -21, -12 resulted in crashes during boot.

@UnhingedSystems

3 ай бұрын

Facts! The higher EDC and TDC doesn't always result in better performance. Especially for EDC there seems to be a point where the performance actually comes down slightly when increasing EDC. This definitely depends on the type of workload on the CPU.

First video I've seen from your channel. I've been using this app for a long time and love it. You know your stuff more than most, I hope your channel grows.

@UnhingedSystems

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the comment! I appreciate the positivity and encouragement!

I've been putting up with WHEA errors for like 3 years of owning a 5900x. When I bought this system I wasn't aware of the memory controllers limitations with regard to 3600Mhz, and above with 4 sticks of memory. I should have bought 2 16gb sticks. The memory controller has a tough time with maintaining a 1 to 1 "Infinity Fabric" (1,800Mhz) with all memory slots populated. 16gb sticks were somewhat rare and expensive at the time. I bought 4 sticks of 3,600Mhz c14, 15, 15, 15, 35, and though I could get all 4 sticks to operate at their XMP profile, I had Whea errors. They were incredibly intermittent- sometimes going for days without a reboot even though correctable WHEA errors were happening in the background all the time. This lasted through several different video cards, and 2 CPU's- as I had a 5600x prior to the 5900x. Recently, I bought a new GPU, and while changing it my water pump died. While replacing the water pump, and the GPU, I accidentally ripped the 5900X out of its socket without releasing the bar- ouch. This happened because of how damn well the Thermal Grizzly pink thermal paste was adhering between the CPU, and waterblock. While simply trying to remove the water block, it pulled off the CPU with it. However, there was no damage, it just cleaned the pins, even scraping off a thin layer of gold plating. I crossed my fingers and reinstalled everything, and thankfully it posted, and booted just fine, and low and behold- no more WHEA errors.. It's been almost a week now. What the hell? Was one of my pins dirty, and not getting good contact?! The ASRock website doesn't even list 3600Mhz as compatible, though it does list higher frequencies. Now I'm afraid to change anything.

@UnhingedSystems

Ай бұрын

That's so "computers". Reseating the CPU can sometimes (rarely) resolve an issue, so it sounds like you inadvertently made a better connection on the reseat. Memory is finicky, it always has been. I try hard to always choose RAM on the QVL list in the combination I am using. That has guaranteed stability for me over the years. From a rate time to time I deviate from the QVL list and about 50% of the time it doesn't run at the correct spec.

@infiniteblaz3416

7 күн бұрын

That's wild lol

@UnhingedSystems

7 күн бұрын

@@infiniteblaz3416 Toga Toga Toga

@infiniteblaz3416

7 күн бұрын

@@UnhingedSystems Man of culture haha 🔥🔪

simply great video. Super Appreciate it. the detail was needed.

my Asus CrossHair Hero VIII (non-dark) is a beast for overclocking my 5900X. The previously released bios would allow boosting to 5100 on some cores during gaming but I would always get "Exception breakpoint reached" errors in Windows upon shutdown or reboot. I disabled some Asus specific boosting options in the bios and now it only boosts to 4900. Thanks for the video.

@UnhingedSystems

2 жыл бұрын

The sustained average boost is interesting to see vs the peak boost measured. So many cool topics to cover! Thank you for watching!

I have 5900 (non X version). Is it safe to keep this cpu overclocked all the time? Or should I only overclock on a game by game basis? Its liquid water cooled. I'm just really new to pc gaming

Thanks for this video. I will probably tinker with this tomorrow. I heard from random people in the past that it’s not really worth overclocking an AMD CPU as it is with intel, so I didn’t really put any time into it besides clicking the “auto over clock” feature in AMD Ryzen master, which gave a .2ghz boost on all cores. I am more looking for that increase in performance in games so I will probably look to disable CCD 2, and try to go with a stable 4.6ghz on all, with my 2 highest at like 4.9 if possible or even 5.0 would make me very very happy. Currently have the 5900x cooled with a Artic Liquid Freezer 280mm, which has a thicker radiator than the 360mm thus benchmarking about the same. Again thanks

@UnhingedSystems

Жыл бұрын

For me the biggest real-world gains come from the all-core increase when enabling PBO and increasing power limits, or manually overclocking and using the Dark Hero's OC switcher. Definitely worth it for video compiling workloads!

I have checked a bit the R7 5800X3d and the R75900 X and it'd consider the latter to be a better choice for both gaming and productivity, what would you advise?

@UnhingedSystems

Жыл бұрын

For just gaming, 5800X3D over the 5900X . For productivity + gaming mixed the 5900X. The 7700X is a nice alternative to the 5800X3D for the newer platform as well, and the 7900X is obviously the choice for gaming/productivity on the new platform. Waiting to see how the 7000X3D stacks up! Pretty exciting, though the X3D tax will be high for sure.

@rachparov

Жыл бұрын

@@UnhingedSystems The thing is i planned months ago to go with the 5800X but the 5800X3D came...the 7700x is too expensive for me and i don't trust the new plateform for now, so i was in doubt of either going for the 5800x for a "low cost" settup or directly go to the 5900x since the price is similar to the 5800X3d. i'm currently using a very old plateform (AMD FX) with a RTX 2070 super.

@UnhingedSystems

Жыл бұрын

@@rachparov I recently built a 5800X3D system with an RTX 4080. Solid gaming setup for 1440p resolution and higher.

@rachparov

Жыл бұрын

@@UnhingedSystems I don't have your budget (minimum price for that 4080 here is 1.5 k €😅) but i've seen some benchs and i think i'll go with the R9 5900X for maximum usage. Then i'll move to the newer plateform (AM5) when it has a more solid background and the price goes down a bit.

@UnhingedSystems

Жыл бұрын

@@rachparov Great plan! I don't have that budget either right now, it was for a client ☺️

Initially I just went ham and set my PBO to the Motherboard limits. I did get the extra performance on Cinebench R23, initially boosting up to 4.4GHz on all cores. But it could not sustain the boost and goes down to less than 4.3GHz. So I went ahead and tried to tune my PBO limits. Since I live in a tropical environment, where temperatures reach at a high of 40 degrees during summer, I had to tweak my PBO limits so I can maintain around 80-85 degrees depending on the weather. This allowed my CPU to maintain the boost of more than 4.4GHz on all cores.

Thank you for helping me understand my CPU more. Be happy, be safe

Does Ryzen Master override what I have set in BIOS? I Wonder if I have to reset settings in BIOS before I try Ryzen Master to not get buggy results?

@UnhingedSystems

Жыл бұрын

It will, yes. If you are going to use Ryzen Master I would suggest using defaults in the BIOS to avoid any confusion when switching between settings.

My 5900x doesnt throttle at 90, it throttles at 83 degrees. I dont know why. I never set a custom limit for it, and in Ryzen Master it says 90 is the limit, but ive tested it over and over again. 83° its throttle temp, and i cant figure out how to change that.

My 5900X idles in the 50's and AMD says its fine, but I noticed your chip clocks down pretty low to reduce temps. Mine never drops below base clock of 3.7Ghz......running a 360mm AIO and AMD just says this chip is hot. Any way to correct this?

@meruzzin

Жыл бұрын

hey i have The same problem, you found out a solution?

@pmolitierno

Жыл бұрын

@@meruzzin no sir. AMD says it's fine........I will probably build Intel next time around....

effective clock speeds has to be watched too, you can use tools like boosttester to figure out if the cores can boost that high.

Fairly new to this whole overclocking or messing with the CPU at all. I went to precision boost overdrive and then increased PPT, TDC, and EDC. Got a clock speed of around 4,260 on my Ryzen 5900x doing it that way. I then noticed that lowering the amount of EDC actually increased my clock speed. Making my EDC only at 100A made me boost up to around 4,420. Gave me a better score on Cinebench as well when heavily capping my EDC. Do you know what would maybe cause this to happen? Should I keep it capped all the way down to 100A or still increase it so it's not sitting at 100% even though it shows worse results?

@UnhingedSystems

Жыл бұрын

In a lot of use cases lowering the EDC to an extent will actually improve performance. It's varies chip to chip how it will act with different settings. Ultimately you will find the best settings for your chip :)

I like this guy. Great video!

@UnhingedSystems

Жыл бұрын

Awww thanks! I appreciate that! Maybe some day I'll be a popular KZreadr! 👍

I might have missed this in your video but when you enabled PBO, do you also need to manually bring up your CPU voltage, or is that handled dynamically in the background? Lastly, how should I handle memory speeds? Could I hypothetically enable Game Mode with all my power limits set to max and also enable XMP memory profile within my bios for an overall better performing OC? Thanks and great content!

Thank you for this. A lot of needed info shared 🤘

Very helpful! Thank you so much for this video.

Thank you for awesome video and clear advice :) i think easiest and safest way to overclock :)

You're my hero man. Great tutorial.

@UnhingedSystems

Жыл бұрын

Wow thanks for the awesome compliment! Glad you found it useful!

@pawelsyska

Жыл бұрын

@@UnhingedSystems I have a question. Now that I play with the settings I noticed that my amps go nowhere near maximum set, because CPU Power refuses to go beyond 160W. CPU Temps go up to 81 degrees C. How do I increase the CPU power limit? I'm on 5900X too.

@UnhingedSystems

Жыл бұрын

@@pawelsyska You can increase the PPT, TDC and EDC within Ryzen Master as well. If you have the cooling capacity just max out the PPT (300), set TDC and EDC to between 135-165 and play with different settings. There are cases where increasing the EDC and TDC too far results in less performance.

So if I only use 6 of my cores I should see better performance then using all 12 at 5ghz

@UnhingedSystems

2 жыл бұрын

In a lot of cases yes, when gaming using fewer active cores those cores have more freedom to boost higher and maintain a higher overall sustained boost. Most games are perfectly happy with 4-6 cores active.

thorough explanation, thank you!

Quality content 👌

@UnhingedSystems

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment! Not all my content lands, but when it does it's maybe helpful! Haha

this video helped heaps turns out i need a new mother board as i"m nowhere near my temp limits, i"m hitting a max of 55 degrees with my tdc maxing out at 114 A and edc 80% at 168 A only hitting 3.455 ghz on all cores during a benchmark with my 5950x and my b450 tomahawk MAX 2 any tips to improve this before i get a new motherboard would be appreciated

@UnhingedSystems

Жыл бұрын

B450 just isn't designed for the power delivery the 5950X needs. A solid B550 would be sufficient (with good VRM cooling) but a good X570 would be ideal. There are three areas I always invest a little heavier in when building a PC: - A good motherboard with solid power delivery and cooling - A solid power supply with some overhead power for overclocking (If you need 850W minimum, get 1000W) - This one is a newer addition, optimal RAM with optimal speeds Building an ultra high-end system usually requires at least middle of the road supporting parts. 5950X, 13900K, 7950X, all demand more from their supporting parts.

Thanks helped me with a issue I was having

I tried this utility but used all the auto settings for gaming...any good? I feel like my system was laggy during and afterwards. 5900x, Asus 3080, 32gb 3600mhz ramm, Corsair water cooling. I uninstalled it. 🤷🏽‍♂️

70C + when doing nothing on the liquid cooling and 92C when gaiming ? thats not normal

Why on my 5900x can I only see one of my CCD cores, specifically CCD Core 0

@UnhingedSystems

Жыл бұрын

That's odd. Do you have the latest BIOS, chipset drivers, and the newest Ryzen Master version?

Great video

@UnhingedSystems

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Hi. Last time I assembled a computer was about seven years ago. Since then much has changed. I have always used Intel. I am now, for the first time, going with AMD: - Ryzen 9 5900X - ASUS ROG Strix X570-I X570 Mini-ITX - DDR4 64GB (2x32GB) 3200MHz (PC4-25600) CL16 I want to overclock both the cpu and ram not get everything to go faster, necessarily, but rather to ensure that bus speeds, frequencies, clocking, etc., are all in synch and working together well, each reinforcing the strengths of the other. Thus far I have learned that doing so can be as complicated as finding solutions to second-order differential equations. Can you recommend a comprehensive guide fit for the eyes of a novice? I want to be able to settle on a reliable 'sweet spot'. Thanks.

@UnhingedSystems

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the question! Are you looking at doing something beyond just enabling DOCP? With DOCP profiles enabled the memory controller and memory will be synced, for example, 3200MHz on the memory and 1600MHz for the infinity fabric. That ratio is ideal and automatic with DOCP. 3600MHz CL16 (or even CL14) is pretty much the ideal sweet spot for the 5900X and other 5000 series CPUs, but you won't perceive a difference with 3200. Are you looking at getting any more in-depth?

@lduych

2 жыл бұрын

@@UnhingedSystems Thank you for being so helpful. What I really need is some sort of guide that isn't out-of-date and is easy to follow. For example, DOCP didn't even exist last time I built a computer. And this is the first time I'm using AMD. Right now I can get answers to all my questions but only after spending hours on forums. Just finding the right forum can take hours. And forums are for resolving specific issues. What I need is far more general. I need a comprehensive guide. Any suggestions? And thanks again! P.S.: Can you recommend an affordable graphics card suited to the ASUS ROG Strix X570-I X570 Mini-ITX motherboard?

Im running the 7800X3D, and they have a temp limit of 89C, mine runs at 84-86 while PBO is turned on. Thats with the undervolt curve too, before that it was always hitting that 89. I wonder if i can lower my temps even more... the undervolt is -30 as it is, kind of high but stable. Can this cause micro stutter i wonder, if it keeps hitting the limit and going down in speed?

Year ago when I tinkered with my R9 5900x increasing EDC led to decrese in performance and increase in temperature. Keeping EDC at 135 or 130 did the trick and boosted my multiscore a bit. Anyway I went with easy way at the end and I am satisfied with results.. Pbo - > advanced, limits - > Auto, Scallar - > Auto, Curve - 20 all cores, boost +50mhz, thermal limits - > Auto. CPU-Z 696/10144, CB R23 644/22850. Temps stay at 55 - 60 during gaming, 65-70 in heavy all core tasks, iddle at 28-32 depends on actual room temperature.

@UnhingedSystems

2 жыл бұрын

Nice! My 5950X had several cores that were rather unhappy with anything below -11, albeit only in very specific games like Stellaris. PC would hard-lock when cores were switching between load to idle. Every other workload was happy except Stellaris regardless of any other setting or adjustment. Silicon lottery did me dirty this time around, but I'm not complaining, gaming has never been so good.

@johnrehak

2 жыл бұрын

@@UnhingedSystems best testing of stable Curve is Your standard daily usage. I was able pass all gaming and synthetic tests I thrown on my PC, than it hard restart during verry light workload of basic tasks. I know that I could get a bit more of performance from CPU, but it does not worth time investment, little performance gain and big temperature increase.

@alexmckoy8898

2 жыл бұрын

my 5900x goes all core -30 all the way. 23500 cbr23

@johnrehak

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexmckoy8898 myine was running fine too in synthetic benchmarks, but started to crash after some time with basic tasks like opening chrome, using spotify, etc. If You havent crashed with those settings for like a month, You won silicon lottery.

@UnhingedSystems

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexmckoy8898 Lucky!

I never believed or consider them real overclocks, when using software...BIOS the most stable OC and true as well.

@UnhingedSystems

11 ай бұрын

I agree, but the BIOS can be scary for beginners. I do all of my own OC work in the BIOS. Of course, I don't consider today's methods of overclocking to really be overclocking either 🤷 Gone are the days of bypassing pins on the CPU to push higher clocks 🤣 Hopefully some day I can afford to do some liquid nitrogen work, then I can really tinker and get some serious results.

I can see why people say that PBO is bad. I'm running at 4.5 all core at 1.31V with a 140 amp limit EDC just fine but that's set up through BIOS

@no-pz7xy

Жыл бұрын

pbo + curve optimizer has gotten me 4.6 to 4.7 on a chilly day 1.38 droop then back to 1.28 to 1.29 once the load is steady.

@no-pz7xy

Жыл бұрын

oh adn only about 75 C after running for 30 ish minutes. not on air but still good.

How did you ger ryzen master to work on windows 11? i have tried everything short of a clean reinstall of windows from every support article. i can get it to launch one time after a clean reinstall of the program and it fails to launch after that.

@UnhingedSystems

Жыл бұрын

That's interesting. It worked for me in Windows 11 immediately with no issues. Are you on the latest BIOS and AMD chipset drivers?

@darrenball9423

Жыл бұрын

@@UnhingedSystems haven't tried updating bios yet. That will probably be my next step. I have updated drivers from both armory crate and amd

Question when I go into Precision boost overdrive it says I can set my ppt to 1260 TDC 700 and my EDC 840 for my 5900x which is over triple what is shown in your tutorial. question I would those maxed out settings even be safe / possible to maintain?

My ryzen master Auto OC feature is boosting me to 5050 MHz on a 5900X and its stable. The speed seems to line up when running 3D mark cpu test. Is OCing to that speed really as simple as hitting auto OC or am I missing something because all the guides i look at require playing with BIOS and they struggle hitting 4.8 MHz.

@UnhingedSystems

2 жыл бұрын

Great question! Yes and no. When you measure your "Max" boost using HWInfo or another monitoring program it can be deceiving. The Zen3 CPUs hit 5050 and up to 5100 for a couple of milliseconds between tasks, but they don't sustain those clock speeds under load. The more relevant measurement is the average sustained boost clock which is closer to 4.8-4.9 GHz (single core) and 4.3-4.7 GHz (All-core, max power limits). If you look at an application such as MSI Afterburner you can watch the graphs and see what the Avg sustained boost clock really is. Boosting to 5050-5100 GHz between loads is practically useless and really just a side effect of the boost algorithm, but it isn't actually sustaining those clock speeds. The correct measurement for real performance is the average sustained clock speeds while processing a load. If your CPU does sustain a 5+GHz clock speed under load then you have a unicorn CPU. Hope that helps! Note: My sustained boost was marginally higher with earlier versions of the BIOS AGESA versions, it seems to be somewhat lower now, but more stable.

@rookie9353

2 жыл бұрын

Did you increase the voltage to get those clocks?

@optimalsettings

Жыл бұрын

Maybe it's clock stretching. Look at your efficience clock.

@sensationsuperthrust

Жыл бұрын

Eventhough my cooling is not the best, i did the simple Auto OC too and it got me (my 5900x) to 5050 Mhz but it was not stable, i havent gotten my head around what auto oc is doing yet, but my suspision is that the all core oc was uneccesarrily high, i would rather have 5ghz boost on some cores and moderate clocks on others to have an oc preset for single core dependent gaming. Do you guys know a guide that focuses on this?

do you need apply same setttings in bios or ryzen master does everything automatically and when you apply lets say creator mode" it stays forever?

@UnhingedSystems

Жыл бұрын

The settings are applied when Ryzen Master starts up again. You don't need to change any BIOS settings manually.

@spetauskas

Жыл бұрын

@@UnhingedSystems ok, so if i want use curve optimized settings always I need to open ryzen master every time I start pc?

@UnhingedSystems

Жыл бұрын

@@spetauskas In the settings have it auto-start minimized when Windows loads.

@spetauskas

Жыл бұрын

@@UnhingedSystems so I gues it is better to make changes in bios if I dont want to have too many programs running in background or on startup :)

@UnhingedSystems

Жыл бұрын

@@spetauskas Agreed, but if stability is an issue you can always stop Ryzen Master from loading. If the BIOS settings are unstable sometimes you have to reset the BIOS which is more work initially when dialing in the settings (unless you already know the BIOS well).

when setting my EDC lower i get better clock results but i see my EDC % goes over 100% my temps are fine but would leaving that overclock be bad for the cpu?

@UnhingedSystems

Жыл бұрын

Higher amperage than stock will degrade the CPU a bit faster than stock, however, keep your temperatures in check and you should be fine.

@Starfals

Жыл бұрын

@@UnhingedSystems Im running the 7800X3D, and they have a temp limit of 89C, mine runs at 84-86 while PBO is turned on. Thats with the undervolt curve too, before that it was always hitting that 89. I wonder if i can lower my temps even more... the undervolt is -30 as it is, kind of high but stable.

Something people dont talk about enough is under volting for balance between power usage and performance. Some of us want to keep our pc silent for work purposes and limit the total power draw from the wall while working.

@UnhingedSystems

Жыл бұрын

Actual undercoating to limit CPU performance and heat generation is very easy on these chips (just manually set the CPU voltage to a lower setting like 1.2V will reduce all of the boosting algorithms). If one really wants it to be silent just slap on a 480mm radiator into a water cloop dedicated to the CPU, throw in some high static pressure fans and voila, the fans never need to go above 1000-1100RPM to keep all the fluids nice and chilly.

I have an all core OC in bios (Core ratio = x46) Is it possible to have PBO enabled with an all core OC? If yes, is there a risk in crashing? This is for Warzone

@UnhingedSystems

Жыл бұрын

If the motherboard supports having a dynamic OC feature (Like the Dark Hero X570), then you are good to go!

@7Gia_

Жыл бұрын

@@UnhingedSystems awesome. Thanks

quick question my man? do I need to keep opening ryzen on boot to apply settings or do they work auto everytime?

@UnhingedSystems

2 жыл бұрын

Great question! Ryzen Master has to load to apply the settings as they aren't permanent like a BIOS change.

@dannynicholson50

2 жыл бұрын

@@UnhingedSystems man I'm so glad I stumbled on your video.... my bios settings were doing nothing, tried ryzen master booom.... 5ghz peak and 4.6ghz all core on avx load.... god knows why my bios won't configure it

Thanks for this video! I have a question if someone can help me, here i have the 5900x and 5800x3D the same price. I have a x570 board and ddr4 ram. Ill play 1440p games and stream sometimes, which cpu should i buy? planning to buy 4080 if it launches someday lol

@UnhingedSystems

Жыл бұрын

5800X3D is superior for gaming. If gaming is your sole focus, go with that 😉

Why would my EDC be at 0%? And it doesn't change as I modify it.

@UnhingedSystems

2 жыл бұрын

That's really odd. What motherboard are you using? I have seen some bad motherboards where the sensors don't accurately (or at all) report back measurements from their sensors.

@mikooou

2 жыл бұрын

I'm using the ROG Strix B-550. And the Ryzen 5900x if that matters.

@UnhingedSystems

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikooou Check if you have the latest AMD chipset drivers installed.

@mikooou

2 жыл бұрын

@@UnhingedSystems I checked. They were a little bit out of date so I updated them. But still no EDC reading. Is it possible that I an inadvertent change in the BIOS could cause this?

@UnhingedSystems

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikooou It should still be able to read EDC value. Ensure your BIOS is up-to-date and maybe reset your BIOS to default settings and try again. It is entirely possible that one of the sensors isn't working (I have had clients where none of the voltage or power sensors could be read or detected in the OS no matter what we did, same motherboard model in a different system had no issues). If it still isn't working try enabling PBO in the BIOS and see if you get any change in Ryzen Master. Does it display the stock limits for you? (142W, 95A, 140A)

what gpu do u have?

@UnhingedSystems

9 ай бұрын

My GPU on both my systems is an RTX3090 right now. I've been tempted to upgrade to a 4090, but I've decided to wait for 5090.

hi! i have the same cpu as u with asus b550 A motherboard i have tried to overclock my cpu like u but it goes to a crazy high temperature when i set my cores speed to 4400 the cpu temperature reached 120 in a sec and even just by setting it to precision boost overdrive and stress test it temperature goes to 90 any idea about the cause quick note : that i had a old pc and i installed new cpu gpu mb and cpu cooler by myself so it was kinda my 1st build

Not a single BIOS setting? Something seems off here...

if i have one core clocked higher then the other ones will games and programes use this as their main core?

@UnhingedSystems

2 жыл бұрын

It really depends on the OS and the thread scheduling. For the most part your preferred cores (as displayed in Ryzen Master) will get the bulk of the heavier single-threaded workloads, but it depends on a lot of factors like what other processes are running, other loads on other threads etc. The ones clocked higher should technically be the preferred cores in most cases.

@Victor-sr7db

2 жыл бұрын

@@UnhingedSystems thanks!

What I'm curious to know is how a 5900x on say a MSI Tomahawk 450 max will go with overclocking in regards to VRM temps..

@no-pz7xy

Жыл бұрын

ive had no real issues with PBO and the board does PPT of 1000 wats for some reason lol. only goes to 170 watts though, hard to tell actual VRM temps on this board with sensors but it would tell me if I was having temp limits by turning off the computer or turning my clockspeeds down.

Does this save to bios or do i have to do this everytime

@UnhingedSystems

Жыл бұрын

The settings apply at startup as long as you have Ryzen Master set to start with Windows. The settings don't apply directly into the BIOS.

Good video, but plz.. zoom in so we can see better ;) watchin' from an iphone is not easy

@UnhingedSystems

2 жыл бұрын

Great feedback! Thank you!

Don't have PBO in Ryzen Master

Does this overclock goes away after restart?

@UnhingedSystems

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, the overclock is applied by Ryzen Master so until Ryzen Master loads again (It is an auto startup usually) your OC is not yet applied. This is similar to MSI afterburner. It is nice because if the OC is too aggressive and crashes you can still get back into the OS and uninstall/re-install Ryzen Master to remove the profiles and try again. Thank you for the question!

Only 85 likes on this video including mine. That's sad considering how in depth this went. Question though. If you apply an OC and Ryzen runs the test after reboot and says it successful. But all your cores were only running at 700mhz. I'm assuming that's a fail and never kept those settings. I never went crazy with the manual stuff. Any info on what exactly that means or what might have caused it would be great 👍

@UnhingedSystems

2 жыл бұрын

Great question! Not necessarily a fail. Ryzen Master alternates load somewhat, and the polling speed to see the clock speeds is actually quite slow. Test using HWInfo64 and run some load tests with some other programs like Cinebench and see what the min/max is. I haven't experienced the CPU stuck at lower MHz unless the clock speeds were intentionally set lower.

My ppt says 1200w

@UnhingedSystems

Жыл бұрын

CPU is going to pull everything it can within its thermal limits. Funny that they can show 1200W when no CPU compatible with that board can pull that much. Probably a great board for liquid nitrogen overclocking runs though!

@techroomuk

Жыл бұрын

@@UnhingedSystems x570 aours master, I was afraid to do any oc to not fry my 5950x. 1200w ppt . Tdc 540a edc 215a. Pbo limits set to motherboard in the bios. I just want to get better performance overall in gaming and video editing, gigabyte easy tune makes 4.5ghz all core oc with one click, but from what I know in games, more GHz it's more frames. Now cpu clock speed shows 5000mhz without nothing done to it, you reckon if I apply the creator profile will be better?, I have a 360aio set at 80 procent all the time, idle temp is 35 degree in a hot day, in the winter was like 25 degree. Would you be able to help me get a good oc without going crazy, I want something stable. Or should I keep it on the all core 4.5ghz?

I have a 5900 non x and my ppt and tdc are both showing limits of 1000 lol

is it okay to oc my 5900x. im only using b450i and have 240mm aio

@UnhingedSystems

Жыл бұрын

It's going to depend on a couple of things. Firstly you will be limited by the power limits and VRM cooling on the b450 board. Second the 240mm AiO design will determine how fast you can get the heat away from the CPU. Ideally you don't want the liquid in the AiO to raise beyond 45-50C. The hotter the fluid the harder it is on the pump and the less cool it keeps the CPU. A lot of AiOs don't come with any kind of internal sensor for temps. You can certainly give a try on the 240mm AiO, in smaller increments, and see what kind of results you get. I typically recommend a 360mm AiO for overclocking where possible. A 240mm AiO probably won't perform all that well at high CPU utilization over a longer period of time, however, it's probably fine during gaming and other light-medium workloads.

@dotafarm2699

Жыл бұрын

@@UnhingedSystems i did not oc. im using 80-90% of the 5900x with 60-70c temps with the 240mm aio. i think this is pretty decent with a itx build.

@UnhingedSystems

Жыл бұрын

@@dotafarm2699 Very decent!

@dotafarm2699

Жыл бұрын

@@UnhingedSystems i was trying these. i cant increase the value of my ppt tdc and edc. my ppt is capped at 300, tdc 140A, edc 200A. i cant go beyond

Im about halfway through the video and have noticed that my ppt is stuck at 88w but my TDC and EDC have increased to 255 when I enable PBO. I am using a ryzen 7 3700x and a asus tuf x570 mb with the latest drivers. Any recommendations as to how I might be able to fix this?

@dominicscarcello4198

2 жыл бұрын

never mind, once I manual OC'd it, the ppt changed to 395w

Core Cycler is a good test app for CO.

I have no idea how you're idling at 38-40C, my 5900X idles at 65-70C with a 360 AIO cooler, do you have any idea why my idle temps would be so high? I'm aware the 5900X is designed to run as hot as 90C, but I mean I'm literally just sitting on my desktop, no PBO, 3.5Ghz, and it's at least 20 degrees hotter than yours lol

@UnhingedSystems

2 жыл бұрын

The 5900X definitely doesn't idle that high. Even on an air cooler it's quite low. If you are idle 65-70C then one of four things: - Insufficient mounting pressure - terrible thermal paste/still have plastic over the block on the mounting side - bad water block design - bad pump Some AiO water block designs are not very good. Which AiO and thermal paste are you using.

@JustLostTheGame

2 жыл бұрын

@@UnhingedSystemsI appreciate you trying to help-mounting pressure should be good, the screws don't get any tighter without over-tightening, no plastic left on the block, I'm using Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut with a Lian Li Galahad 360 AIO.

@UnhingedSystems

2 жыл бұрын

@@JustLostTheGame Are you running the latest BIOS? Which motherboard are you using? Have you tried resetting the BIOS to default? The Galahad cools the 5900X well enough. Does the idle shoot up to 65-70 right away or does it ramp up over a couple of minutes. Just wondering if the pump isn't working properly or maybe the flow is obstructed.

@JustLostTheGame

2 жыл бұрын

@@UnhingedSystems I actually updated my BIOS very recrntly funnily enough and reset my settings, so it's definitely not that, I have a Gigabyte B550 Vision D-P, it ramps up almost instantly, it'll start at around 30-40C (the ambient temp of my case) and as soon as I'm on my desktop, it goes to 58-65, and typically stays around there, sometimes higher. BIOS is reporting the fans and pump are working, and the radiator feels warm right where the heat tube meets the radiator, so it's definitely pulling heat away from the CPU.

@UnhingedSystems

2 жыл бұрын

@@JustLostTheGame Are there any background applications running? Can you see the CPU usage? It should be barely 1%-3% at idle. I have seen some malware and crypto viruses that cause CPU and GPU usage to spike, maybe run a quick Malwarebytes scan just to be safe.

4250 made me hit 90 celcius with liquid cooling :(

@UnhingedSystems

2 жыл бұрын

Yikes! That's hot! Some coolers and pastes perform better than others. Most coolers come with pretty crappy thermal paste pre-applied unfortunately.

@PinkyyXD

2 жыл бұрын

@@UnhingedSystems hmm I had a local shop put it together there's a 120mm slickmaster cooler master in there and I just can't keep it cool and am not sure what my options are !

@UnhingedSystems

2 жыл бұрын

@@PinkyyXD 120mm is not going to keep the 5900X cool, not a chance stock, certainly not overclocked. The minimum effective would be 240 and even that is going to have the coolant get warm. For 5900X and 5950X I don't like doing less than 360mm of radiator. I always ask, what is the point of water cooling if you cannot have both cool and quiet? The cooler the coolant the cooler the CPU. I just recently fixed a pre-built with an 11900KF that had a single 120mm radiator. Constant overheating and thermal throttling while in use, coolant over 65C which is damaging to the pump. 120mm is not sufficient.

@PinkyyXD

2 жыл бұрын

@@UnhingedSystems ok so I didn't put it together I can barely see the cooler it says sicklemaster 120 but there's two fans so I'm assuming it's atleast 240? I'm also running off of a b450 tomahawk I was looking at getting a Strix 570 E, what are your thoughts?

@UnhingedSystems

2 жыл бұрын

@@PinkyyXD Send me a photo @UnhingedSystems on twitter.

Ive been mostly dissapointed with my zen 3 for gaming unfortunately I am going to sell my 5600x and get a i5 12400f instead, some of the games I play simply do not understand Ryzen instruction set I guess. Like if a lot of enemies show up I suddenly dip to like a slideshow FPS that I didn't get on my old i7 2600 system, not fun when you pull around a corner and 5 mechs are looking at you and you can't react because you get slideshow FPS haha.

@UnhingedSystems

2 жыл бұрын

Which games are you experiencing these stutters? I haven't experienced anything like that with Zen 3 in any titles. There are some really old titles that need "Legacy mode" enabled in order to run, but they are a rare exception.

@johnrehak

2 жыл бұрын

Intells 12th gen is gaming beasts indeed, but difference lessened with higher resolution and higher settings. At 720p low difference is just massive, while in 1440p/ultra difference will be in single digit fps and at 4k/ultra You are 100% bottlenecked by GPU and there will be little to no difference between i9 12900k, i5 12600k or Ryzen 9 5950x or Ryzen 5 5600x. If I would have to build new PC now, I would go for 12th gen intel probably i7 12700k.

@sinephase

2 жыл бұрын

sounds like something is wrong then

I went in to the bios and set the multiplier on the cpu to 45 and all cores run at 4.5ghz on my 5950x.

@Almarillion

Жыл бұрын

That chip can boost to 4.9ghz. Not an expert here but dont you prevent it boosting when you do that and keep the chip at 4.5ghz all the time?

@excaliber32

Жыл бұрын

@Almarillion I think it's only certain cores that boost to 4.9 ghz the most stable ones so locking all cores at 4.5 gives a better overall overclock is my way of thinking but not sure.

@Almarillion

Жыл бұрын

I had tried 4.3ghz all cores oc on my asus x570. My timespy 2k bench had crashed (awful score) after doing that. That is why I was asking.

@excaliber32

Жыл бұрын

@Almarillion oh right. Maybe increase the voltage a bit but I would of thought at 4 3 that would of been fine. My passed on 4.5.

@Almarillion

Жыл бұрын

@@excaliber32 corrected the text. When i said crash, i didnt mean literally crashing. Score was lower than the stock settings.

Hey, my PPT is at 1000, my TDC is at 380 and my EDC is at 380 is that bad?

@UnhingedSystems

2 жыл бұрын

Which motherboard are you using? Ultimately your CPU won't allow itself to exceed 90C without throttling.

@nexus9677

2 жыл бұрын

@@UnhingedSystemsasrock steel legend wifi ax

@nexus9677

2 жыл бұрын

@@UnhingedSystems My pc is a 3060ti and a ryzen 9 5900x but when I run warzone my gpu time is 4-8ms but my cpu time is 8-15ms and I don't know why

@Starfals

Жыл бұрын

@@UnhingedSystems Same on my asrock, it says 1000. Is it safe?

I love you okay. Thank you

My 5900x hits all cores 4.8 easy no stuttering and low temps lol

@midboys

Жыл бұрын

What settings ? voltage ?

Ryzen Master is fake other programs give me other values that match and ryzen master has its own values and when gaming supposedly only 3 cores should be active and the mot 200 to 1800 ca mhz exactly cpu temp only 42° what a fake

@UnhingedSystems

8 ай бұрын

Calling it a fake is a bit of a stretch considering it was made by AMD themselves and is their officially supported tool designed and approved by their own team. There are many programs out there that read sensors and "interpret" things their own way and at their own polling rates. There are also many different sensors for CPU temperature and not all programs are using the same sensors for what they are calling "CPU Temperature" as there are sensors on the CPU and on the motherboard that report these values from different physical locations on/around/near the CPU. When comparing sensor for sensor like for like readings I get the same values in Ryzen Master that I do in any other program that is using the same sensor Ryzen Master does. Can you elaborate on what / where you are seeing differences? Curious to know what you are seeing.

my ppt is 500 stock wth? Should i lower it?

@UnhingedSystems

Жыл бұрын

If you have the motherboard limits selected it will allow it to push as high as it feasibly can within it's algorithms. 500 is a little high, but it won't run beyond it's thermal limits.

@ArisHDi

Жыл бұрын

@@UnhingedSystems i have an msi mpg x570 gaming plus, i did my research and it seems that it cannot handle my 5900x with any oc setting.

@UnhingedSystems

Жыл бұрын

@@ArisHDi That's really odd for an X579 system. What kind of issues are you having?

@ArisHDi

Жыл бұрын

@@UnhingedSystems it cant seem to hold any pbo or co setting it passes every cinebench stress test, occt test, project hydra test but it will crash (no blue screen just crash) after playing a couple of games of mw2 or +-40minutes of 3d modeling applications. Ive seen all my cores hitting 4900-4950 boost clock with out any pbo or co setting and i can throw at it pretty much everything and it will not crash. From what i read the vrms of my mobo cant handle the heat they get as high as 70 degress while cinebench runs.

@UnhingedSystems

Жыл бұрын

@@ArisHDi Well VRM cooling definitely can be an issue, check for BIOS updates. No point in having an X570 platform that can't overclock.