I had a lot of interest in doing a i5-12400 bottleneck video and finally finished it! Thanks for all the support you guys have shown on this video, I appreciate it more than you know. Check out my i5-12400 video if you have'nt already: kzread.info/dash/bejne/mYp6xJidcqjcj6Q.html

@nitinnetworker

Жыл бұрын

I have 2080 and Ryzen 1600. Which CPU would you recommend me to eliminate bottleneck?

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

@@nitinnetworker I would upgrade to the 5600, its really well priced and should handle the 2080 just fine.

@edwqrd

Жыл бұрын

I have a question, will a ryzen 5 5600 get bottlenecked by a rx 580?, i mainly think about using them for valorant/csgo

@jdquadrider

7 ай бұрын

@@edwqrd I'd get an RX6600 long before I ever got an RX580. The 5600 will handle either one of these just fine.

@edwqrd

7 ай бұрын

@@jdquadrider i had a good deal here in my country it was like 80 dollars used so...

the results show that the 5600 handles all the cards well, with only minor performance differences compared to the more expensive 5800x 3D. Overall, the Ryzen 5 5600 is an excellent value CPU on the market.

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

very true!

@theanglerfish

Жыл бұрын

x3D is 8 cores / 16 threads instead of 6/12

@hadifelani

Жыл бұрын

That's only around 50-70% true. Not quite _minor_ when it comes to games that enjoys huge chunks of L3 cache though.

@fausto198

Жыл бұрын

I’ve a 5600 and it handles a 6700xt just fine. I’ve recently acquired a 6900xt and boy do I get a CPU bottleneck IN Bf2042 @1440p I mean close to 100% cpu usage. God of war maxed out runs fine so at this point and after watching this video it looks like the CPU should be able to handle the GPU demand. It may just be a config in the game I need to tweek. Will test more over the weekend

@brucewayyyyne

Жыл бұрын

should i get a 5600 or 5600x to pair with a 6600xt?

It's important to know that AMD GPUs bottleneck less than Nvidia GPUs because they have a hardware command processor. Nvidia does that function in software and has a far higher driver overhead on the CPU. That's why a 6950 XT with a 5600 is faster than a 4090 with a 5600 in all non-RT, GPU bound scenarios. Quite simply, if you don't have a fairly high end CPU, you'll lose performance with a higher end Nvidia GPU. The hardware command processor has been a feature since the HD 2900 XT series. This is why you got the results that you did with the 7900xtx and other AMD GPUs.

@shadowkyun

Жыл бұрын

huh never knew that

@AshtonCoolman

Жыл бұрын

@@shadowkyun check out Hardware Unboxed's video comparing the 13400 to the 5700X along with some other CPUs. kzread.info/dash/bejne/gad1l5R9m7Oeh7g.html

@Strytax

Жыл бұрын

nice to know...ty.

@Vantrakter

Жыл бұрын

How are the Intel Arc cards in terms of hardware command processor / software overhead?

@jusala14

Жыл бұрын

so, should I pair AMD with AMD? I have a R5 5500 + 3060, should i change to a 6700 or so?

Parts last as long as you're happy with their performance. A 5600 realistically will last you 2-3 GPU upgrades going forward(6+ years)

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

For sure!

@martingolding4951

27 күн бұрын

I have been using a ryzen 7th Gen cpu since 2019 it came with a gaming pc at £400 and just today, I've purchased the ryzen 5600. I thought it was about time for an upgrade costing me £279 through my catalogue

Plan to keep my b550m, 5800x, 3060ti, 32gb ram, gen 4 nvme for a few more years. Built in November 2021. Started with a GTX 1650 (gpu prices were crazy - then recently upgraded to 3060ti). I play at 1080x60. My system does everything I want at max settings (with RT off). And video rendering times are great too (compared to the i7 4000 series I had last with 4 cores). 2 years in, hopefully 5 to go. I'll rebuild a new desktop at some point, but for now, this is working great!

Love this video. I recently upgraded to amd 5600 and 6800 and you demonstrated I did not need to go to the 5800x 3d. I got a great deal for the 5600. $199 AUD. Great value cpu

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

Glad I could help!

@TheRageKing31

Жыл бұрын

Same setup as me! It's a fantastic combo and I am very surprised how powerful this little cpu is.

@jacobfeet4870

Жыл бұрын

hey have you ran into any problems with your setup? and what 6800 brand if raedon did you buy because i want to buy a raedon gpu to pair with a 5600 I already have coming. are the saphire any good? or is there a certain brand that is just better than the others.

@TheRageKing31

Жыл бұрын

@@jacobfeet4870 Saphire and Power Color are the "best brands." I have a reference model and it stays very cool while gaming. Only thing I would recommend is running DDU before installing the card and do a fresh driver install. All models are incredible for overclocking if you choose to do so, they're a little better than a 3070ti in rasterized performance at stock clocks.

@jacobfeet4870

Жыл бұрын

@@TheRageKing31 so it being my first ever built pc, do i still run ddu?

Excellent video, exactly what I was always wandering about. I especially like the resolutions you chose. The only thing missing is higher end nVidia card because they seem to have a higher cpu usage.

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yeah I have heard that, I am too poor to get the higher end Nvidia stuff haha but maybe if the channel gets big enough I can add it to the benchmarks in the future

@nitinnetworker

Жыл бұрын

I have 2080 and Ryzen 1600. Which CPU would you recommend me to eliminate bottleneck?

3600 and 5600 were both incredible value for gamers.

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

Very true

@CHICKENmcNUGGIESMydude

Жыл бұрын

no the 3600 sucked loll why so many people got it and so few people got 5000 sieries is beyond me

@shining_buddha

11 ай бұрын

They still :)

@razerPh

10 ай бұрын

​@@CHICKENmcNUGGIESMydudeyour the one who's complaining it. Hahaha. The 3600 still the best budget processor right now😂 the next in line was the 5600

@eltonmusg3910

7 ай бұрын

RX6700 10GB or Ryzen 5500 better value/performance

Hello, please tell me if the r5 5600x will be a bottleneck with the rx6800 video card in fullhd resolution or is it better to buy rx6700xt

I got a question would a 5600g work well with a 6800 for 1440p? I’m looking to build my first pc and add a graphics card later

It would also be helpful to see the 1% and 0.1% lows. Frame times are also helpful. It's not just about average FPS. Smoothness matters.

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

I agree, I replied to a lot of other comments and fixed it in the 12400f video I did.

@logandeathrage6945

Жыл бұрын

​@@LegitCamelRetro You should do an update video with the 5800x3d since it has higher 1% lows which is why the 3D processors are so good in gaming.

@ericsilva7430

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, 1%, 0.1%, and min are all that matter. So many reviews don't show this, making the review useless.

Why does the 5600 perform so much worse on Spiderman 1440p RT with the 6900xt compared to 6800xt? Is that a mistake?

The video I was looking for! Thanks!

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

Glad I could help!

Great video and appreciate the work for a small channel 1 percent lows would have been very useful though especially when comparing cpus

Thank you for this demonstration. I play very often with XPlane (flight simulator) which is very cpu demanding. But even with this game I don't think it's worth it to upgrade from my 5700 to the 5800x3D. I'll buy the best Nvidia card I can afford, and change the cpu/ram/motherboard later (maybe 7800x3D?).

Ι have a New 5600g and after 3 weeks later i order an RTX3060 12G ,, is it bad idea ? I have to go for the X ryzen version for Better performance ? i am using 1080p only

my pc setup R3 2200g paired gtx 1650 super. upgrade to r5 5600 is worth it ?

Hey man, what is the benchmark software you're using?

Dont play much other than league I got a new 3080 10g rog strix but not sure which cpu to put it with. Was thinking 5600 or 5800x3D? Its gonna be a mini itx build so heat will be an issue! ❤ thanks!!

Sweet, I was thinking of getting a radeon 7900xtx, just wanted to see how well it does with ryzen 5 5600. Looks great just have to adjust settings per game for performance.

@oscannail274

2 ай бұрын

If your CPU isn't good enough for a game you'll not be able to do much about it in settings. You'll find about two settings out of all of them that actually matter for CPU overhead. This is because you either have a good enough CPU for a scene, or you don't. Dropping your display resolution isn't even a solution. Raising your resolution can be a solution if you're agreeable with the frame rates you're already getting. That said if you already have a 5600 don't run out and replace it. You'll want to wait for 9000 if you want higher frame rates. the 7900 XTX is not going to be obsolete for a while. A friend of mine has put a 5700x in his x370 board in order to wait out the next release cycle for desktop CPUs.

From what I've seen and read from online the real benefit of 5800X3D vs. other 5000 CPUs is the better 1% lows which create smoother experience, not so much in raw performance. Personally I'd not go back to non-3D V-cache models, 5600 is a great budget CPU though if you're already in AM4 platform.

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, its something I for sure need to record in the future.

@RobBCactive

Жыл бұрын

But there's some games, often strategy that really love the cache. Overall having switched from a 5600x, there's a clear difference with the 5800x3D, that also has a more power efficient stepping. Still as I ended up rebuilding so my niece could have my 5600x for data analysis work, I should have gone with AM5 as the marginal cost is only €50 now if you need RAM & mobo too.

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

@@RobBCactive I also enjoyed the new platform, built my girlfriends pc with a 7700x and it feels butter smooth, hard to describe without feeling it yourself, but i would totally recommend it for a future build.

@TurboD16z6

7 ай бұрын

Also in 6 years when a 6050 rtx comes out, you wont be bottleneck.

@mahmoudrabya585

4 ай бұрын

I have this combo 6800Xt and 5600x for a year now, works perfectly in Triple A games 1440P with slightly lower than usual 1% low, the CPU will only bottleneck you in High demanding online games like Fortnite I was skiptic at first if my CPU will bottleneck my GPU but that didn't happen after testing more than 20 games

Great video. I wonder how these CPU age, because in 4 years the difference would be more noticeable. I know that it is impossible to measure it right now...

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

Yeah its always hard to know, but I think current hardware might age quicker than expected because of the new console generation allowing bigger developers more room to push graphics.

Very helpful when picking CPUs, ram size, GPU combos.

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Great video. Thank you for taking the time to put it together.

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words, I really appreciate it!

Do you think limiting CPU freq. or lower proc.power.state to 95-90-80% etc. when also using Gigabyte Control Center(Power Saving Mode/Perform.Mode etc.) can cause incompatibilty? I am with Ryzen 5 5600H Laptop and I had a lot of freezes in win 11 when I started tweaking those stuff. Now I preinstailled win 10 and I got a freeze again, and the only thing I did was change stuff in power settings - set a 3300mhz limit and lower power.proc.state to 95%; Is it possible that the CPU needs that power and temp and freezes, because I limit it?

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

Laptop cpus behave quite a bit differently than a desktop one because of how the power delivery works, so I would be inclined to say that messing with your bios settings is causing the instability, although I havent toyed around with laptop hardware much.

Thanks, excellent vid. I have a 3070/ 3700x system. Been wondering which cpu upgrade and this really points to the 5600 for my needs.

This video was very helpful, Thank You.. You Got A Sub!

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the sub! Glad it was helpful!

I have a 5600 paired with a 7900xt and have no complaints. I’m capped at 120fps max on my LG C1 and that CPU gets me there or past it, so much so that I need to use Radeon Chill pretty often to cap frames.

Hey! @omnirayelectronics do you think a 5700x would be a good fit with 7900xt at 1440p 144hz? I had to rma my faulty 6800xt and i bought a 7900xt as a replacement because i found a great price. I mainly play triple a games and below.

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

Yeah! That pairing should work out pretty well for you.

my question is are yuo using stock cooler becouse my 5600x never gets thsi temperature

Ryzen 5 5600 and rx 7600 How is this combination? How can i avoid a possible bottle neck situation? I'm using a 24inch FHD monitor

Hi, I have ryzen 5 2600 and RX 5600 XT, should i get Ryzen 5 5500 or Ryzen 5 5600? What will perform better with my GPU?

So what if I see 82% max gpu & 26% max CPU (rx 5600 xt/R7 5700x) 1080p 60 fps (60hz) stable frame graph Ultra SotTR? Should I be seeing 99% on the GPU?

Is it enough for a rx 7900 gre ? Or do I have to change.

I need a CPU upgrade for fps. I have 6800xt +3700x. What would be best CPU for 1080p/1440p

do you use any cooler other than the stock cooler for cpu? my cpu temp rises to 80-90° on particular games and 55° on idle, pretty concerned bout it

@AlexB-km7os

7 ай бұрын

I have 5600x and temp with stock wrath cooler was around 80C in Thermaltake H17 case. Purchased PURE ROCK SLIM 2 cooler and it 55-60C max now. Not a big cooler. Highly recommending. Very inexpensive and highly effective.

Very helpful, thank you!

Thanks, I was actually looking for a good video about gpu bottleneck on 5600/5600x. I have a 5600x and won't be afraid to get a 6900xt or 3080 for high 1440p gaming now. I have a 3060Ti atm, but next year I might want to upgrade to a better gpu and 6900xt looks extremely good value/performance(especially since I couldn't care less about RT).

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

Sweet! I am glad you found the video useful haha thank you!

Now here is my problem..I already have a 5600x and a 240hz 1080p monitor. I only play pubg competitive and i want a gpu that can almost sustain that 240fps. Is a rx 6900xt overkill? Can i get away with a 6700XT without fps drops? Please help.

I was searching for a video like this bro Thank you so much

I can excuse my skew towards the X3D because I'm still on AM4 and plan to stick with it the most I can, so in the near future I'm gonna upgrade my 2700X with it. Also I do 1080p high FPS gaming mostly.

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

Should be a really great upgrade for you

I got a ryzen 5 5600 and a Rx6600 (theoretically this is the AMD rtx 3050 or something like that), and I've made inumerous changes on my new pc ( 1 month old with everything new) but my graphics card cant hold 99% in the majority of games, while the Nvidia ones can, and it's very weird cause in games like dishonored 2, Far cry 3, watch dogs, spider man remastered/ miles morales etc, the gpu always drops and I simply cant understand why, and its not even only with me, there are plenty videos on YT with my config/ same specs and with this issue, cause when the gpu utilization drops, it causes some tipe of stutter. If someone knows how to fix this...I could really use some help

Is it to crazy going to 7900 xtx with a 3600? Cause I am really temped to go from 1080ti (nvidia best card ever, legend) to the AMD 7900 xtx

What if I were too pair the 5 3600 with a rx 7800 xt? Or a 7900xt?

I need help i have ryzen 5 5600x and rtx 3060 games like elden ring, and spiderman i cant run past 30 fps lowest settings. Drivers is up to date everything is up to date but run horrible besides games like valorant

Did not know that DLSS & Ray tracing would affect CPU usage, that was something new to learn! Also, as others have mentioned, the 1%, .1% fps are important factors, thanks for including it in your future videos! Cool to know that my CPU is still and will be viable for a while! Thanks for the video!

I’m building my first pc. What about RX 6800 XT and Ryzen 5 5600X will it bottleneck? Motherboard is Asus Rog Strix B550-F. Thanks!

thanks for the very informative video, was wondering how my ryzen 5 5600 would fare if I upgrade to a newer gpu, and this answers it

This is exactly what I was looking for. Even have the same exact 6800xt thanks!

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

Your welcome, Glad I could help!

This comparison video is exactly what I was searching for. Great work, thank you!

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful! Thanks!

I got a 5600 for $50 should I build or not? I only play League of legends and Teamfight Tactics. My GPU selection is rx 6600 or 7600xt.

awesome video! Thanks!

this is a great video right here really helped me decide on getting the 5600x has my first cpu

The benchmark on Cyberpunk 2077 is a GPU test mostly. To check CPU bottlenecking in Cyberpunk 2077 you have to get in high crowd density in the busier parts of Night City.

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

Ah fair enough, might have to change that up then for cpu benchmarks in the future, thanks!

@konstantinlozev2272

Жыл бұрын

@@LegitCamelRetro no problems 😁

I have a system with 5600x CPU and 6800XT GPU. I was wondering if there is any reason to upgrade my CPU and this video gave me exactly the answer I needed. Thanks!

thank you for this video it really helped me out❤.i have a question Should i use msi x570-a pro or asus prime b550-plus for r5 5600x and 6800xt? Are this motherboards good enough for this build? Thank you

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

Both those motherboards would work great, I would go with whichever is cheaper of the two

@waltuuh

Жыл бұрын

Thank you mate it means a lot

lovely video, i was thinking of pairing a 6800 with a 5600, i knew it wouldnt bottleneck but i was curious. i wish you'd included more 1080p results though. regardless cheers

hi what do you think of the 5700x would you say its more less to be a bottleneck using a rtx 4080?

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

It really depends on the games and resolution, the 7900xtx performs similar so based off the benchmarks in this video and taking into account the 5700x is more powerful it will probably be a bottleneck in some instances but for the majority of games you will be fine.

I currently have an Intel i5-8600k with an AMD Radeon RX 6600, been thinking about getting a Ryzen 5600 with new mobo since I have been getting some bottleneck, what do you think?

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

Not sure the upgrade is totally worth it, the 6600 doesnt require much, I havent played around with the 8600k in a while but it seems weird that you would be getting cpu bottlenecked. But if that is whats causing the bottleneck I would get a cheaper build like a 12100f, 5600 is better paired with something like a 3060ti. Unless you want to get an entirely new computer and upgrade the gpu. But if you are playing competitive titles and want more fps in something like league of legends or valorant, even csgo, getting a better cpu upgrade would be worth it so you could go with the 5600.

The video I've been looking for. Awesome work. I have a 5600x and will be upgrading from a 1070 soon, I was expecting my cpu to bottleneck a 7900 xard pretty hard, but it seems that its really not such a bad pair

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

Glad I could help! Thanks for the kind words!

@mikeg3202

Жыл бұрын

im running a 6900xt with my 5600x no issues

@Falkenhalg

11 ай бұрын

@mermos1 Currently in the same situation as you are, thinking about going for a 7900xt, have you done the GPU upgrade? How has been your experience?

@mermos1

11 ай бұрын

@@Falkenhalg yep, its been good. But I also went from 1080p to 2k. I used this combo in fhd for about 2 months. The dip was noticeable demanding titles while in fhd, moving to a higher res fixed it. Also, using this gpu for 1080p gaming is a huge waste. Planning for a new cpu on the next Black friday Biggest issue is coil whine now. Good luck on your upgrade.

@Falkenhalg

11 ай бұрын

@@mermos1 I plan on using a decent 800W PSU so I think I will have coil whine covered, might leave the jump to AM5 CPUs for a few years in the future as upgrading the GPU, PSU and monitors is alredy a heavy money dip, anyways, thanks for your time!

is a 5600 and a rx 6950xT a good combination?

ryzen 5600x for 7700xt? for FHD? will bottlenecking?

Great Video, I'm looking to upgrade to a 5600 and this video has helped me make a decision on if I should get it or not, Thanks for the information.

I am drawn to getting the 5700x3d, yes AM4 Build and pair it with a 4060ti for power efficiency and my other needs. Question: would I be better off with 5600 instead? Considering 5700x3d is pricy

Exactly what I was looking for… subbed and hoping to see some reversed cpu scaling comparison with low and high end gpus

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

I have a 5600 and it benchmarks almost the same a my 5800x up to a 3080 GPU. What made me jump up to a 5800x3d was scoring a 4090. It was just a direct CPU swap, no hassle an the alternatives are not really much better. There was a difference, it was not massive, more like games were smoother. Also with the 5800x3d you can undervolt the cores using some software called PBO2 tuner. Mine is locked it at -30 on all cores.

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

Yeah in the future ill add frame time and 1% lows to the tests, im sure both of those are better on the 5800x3d leading to a smoother feel

@ij6708

Жыл бұрын

PBO2 and curve optimizer can be on any Zen 3 processor including 5600

@surfx4804

Жыл бұрын

@@ij6708 It can but the point is the 5800x3d is locked and so does not allow this. The PBO2 tuner tool will get around that side. Though I think some motherboards may have a bios update that also lets you do it.

very helpful for me. I'm teetering between the 7600 and 5600 but I run 1080P and don't intend to break the bank with a new GPU soon. I'm headed for the 5600 and saving the dough for when I build my next Rocket on the AM5 platform.

Amazing video, this is exectly what i am looking for.

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

PLEASE HELP! I run a 6800 + 5600X in MW2 @ 1080p chasing framerates as my monitor is 280hz. I have a 60-70% cpu bottleneck. In this vid you did provide me with an answer regarding how the 5600 reaches a cap of how high frames you can get. And at 10:24, with a 52% bottleneck, you mention how theres a lot of headroom for more frames with a higher end cpu, but forgot to show how the 5800X3D actually performs at the 1080p competetive settings. That is exactly what I’ve been looking everywhere to find… Could you please run it back @ 1080p, 6800xt + 5800X3D, all low settings and no fsr? Fidelity fx cas

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

I unfortunately sold my 5800x3d so cant run anymore tests with it, if you watch my 12400f bottleneck video I use the 6800xt at 1080p balanced with a 7700x

O just purchased a 7900xt and I have already a 5600G (deactivated integrated graphics already)… I have 32” Samsung odyssey 5 , which is 1440p. All the games are running at ultra with at least 75 fps, but of course I don’t feel I’m getting all the juice. What CPU should I get to get at least a 100 fps? Yes I usually play single player games , rarely competitive. Is a 5600X ok? Or should I get something a little bigger ? Like maybe a 5700X ? Thank you !!

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

I would just get the 5800x3d, its not very expensive and its the best cpu you could slot into your current build without needing to upgrade the entire platform

Bro im having huge fps drops im pubg like on 30 fps with my new rx 6700 xt and my cpu r5 5600x any help?

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

I dont really play a whole lot of pubg but I saw someone do a video about certain graphics settings causing issues

Very good video. Thanks for your hard work dude.

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! I really appreciate you saying that.

is this cpu good with rx 6600 mech 2x 8gb? cause im planning to build a custom pc

@luissuarez8961

26 күн бұрын

yeah its good for 1080p ultra settings

Can I use that with rtx 3070ti without bottleneck

do you use resizable bar?

rx 7700xt worth it with a ryzen 5600 in pair?

do you think my i5 12400f (which is on a similar level in forms to performance with the 5600) will bottleneck an RX 7900 XT on 1440p?

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

I am actually working on a 12400f bottleneck as we speak, I will let you know when it comes out so you can see it for yourself.

@eminedemiri8423

Жыл бұрын

@@LegitCamelRetro I am looking forward to it! Thank you!

Absolute quality video. Subbed

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

Much appreciated!

Hmm I have Ryzen 5 5600 too and I'm pretty interested new RTX 4070. Is there any bootleneck happening on 2K/1440p? Any news/idea?

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

You potentially could bottleneck in some games and situations, the 6800xt benchmark in this video is the closest comparison.

@kutaysargollu7590

Жыл бұрын

​@@LegitCamelRetro Thx for an answer. Cheers!

I put the 7900 XTX in a machine with a R5 5600X, but I'm playing in 4k at all times and cap the frames at 60. I won't have any problems, right?

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

I mean you will for sure have some minor bottlenecking, and it kind of depends on whether you are turning ray tracing on or not, but for most games you will be fine. I wouldnt sweat it too much lol like you are leaving some performance on the table, but like the benchmarks showed with the 7900xtx it isn't much at 4k.

@mastroitek

Жыл бұрын

the 5600x should not have problems in pushing 60fps, but in case it will, you will know. When the cpu starts to struggle delivering at least 60fps you will probably experience frametime spikes (which is quite noticeable, especially when gaming at 60fps). To be clear, in any scenario there will be a certain amount of frametime inconsistency, but these should be much more apparent. In other words, consider to upgrade the cpu only when you feel like it is breaking your gaming experience/immersion. (For example I had a 7700k and in watch dogs legion I had an avg of 75fps but clear 1% low that went down to 55fps)

@nervsouly

Жыл бұрын

@@LegitCamelRetro yeah thankfully I'm not into ray tracing because I barely see a difference. From the benchmarks I mostly read there are losses above the 60 FPS mark that I wouldn't even notice.

@nervsouly

Жыл бұрын

@@mastroitek ohh that makes sense. Thank you.

Can you help me, i have 5600 and I'm facing huge stuttering in game like Pubg pc

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

I dont play a whole lot of pubg so its hard to say, what are the rest of the components in your rig? You can try capping the frame rate or lowering settings.

What about 4070? The problem is that I'll play only 1080p 144Hz in competitive online fps.

Nice video. Thanks for show casing just how good the R5 5600 is. I'd have to look back through the original reviews but, as I remember, the 5600X was really meant for the entry to mid teir gaming PC. The 5600 will net about 85%-95% of the performance for less money. Depending on the Silicone lottery, I'd guess it's possible a 5600 could beat the 5600X. I think we all know the X3D chip was designed to be the ultimate gaming CPU for its generation. Again, nice video.

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

Thanks very much! Yeah with the 5600 being so close in performance to the 5600x it feels like a no brainer, I was really impressed with it in testing and for the cost it is probably the best bang for buck CPU out there right now.

@macymorse80

Жыл бұрын

I got the 5600x a month after it dropped at retail thankfully, but have it all core OC at 4.2 ghz and still don’t see any real gains with it yet but it’s nice to have.

@4olaka

Жыл бұрын

@@macymorse80all cores at 4.2 is alot of bottleneck. Undervolt it without changing clocks, and it will boost all cores at 4600mhz instead of maxing at 4.3 or 4.4. With stock settings i get all cores 4.3 in cinebench r23 and with undervolt they all run at 4.6 and giving better score at the end. Consider :)Sry my english

@macymorse80

Жыл бұрын

@@4olaka not sure how to undervolt it. There was some software where you could do it but I tried and all I got was even more confused lol.

@4olaka

Жыл бұрын

@@macymorse80 trough bios, nothing complicated

Can you do a test for all ryzen 5000 with RTX 3090 and 4090 to see which cpu is still bottlenecks

Was planning to wait for AM5 to go down, but it doesn't seems so. So I've decided to spend 330€ by the end of the month for an am4 system built around the r5 5600 and reuse my rx 5600xt (currently paired with an old i7 4770) and probably upgrade the gpu in the future, although I'll likely keep this system for at least 5 more years and maybe hunt down a used 5800x3d later down the line.

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

I actually think thats a pretty good move right now, pricing is crazy and it will be a really sick PC for much less cost.

@DaCat1337

Жыл бұрын

i got the 5600xt and will upgrade to am4 tomorrow, how has the system been for you so far?

@GLDragon93

Жыл бұрын

@@DaCat1337 Hey, as far as system goes, the overall experience is amazing. Went from a mechanical drive to a gen4 Nvme and boot time is about 10-15 seconds, so fast that if I'm not careful I need to restart to enter bios. Haven't tried really demanding titles, but at 1080p the first Plague Tale runs at 120fps with mostly high settings (some on medium, because I don't like some effects). Genshin Impact at 1080p medium- high (same reason as above), x1,3 rendering and SMAA the gpu sits at max 70% in the most demanding areas, while hovering in the 40-50%. Age of Empires 2 DE at high settings runs at 400-550 fps uncapped. Previously with the i7 4770/Xeon E3 1240V3, couldn't get past 70fps on Plague Tale, Genshin had pop up issues, on top longer loading time and delays for things to start, While AoE couldn't go past 120fps with very frequent dips below that (thus I locked it at 62fps). Cpu was almost always above 40% usage, with frequent spikes to 70-80% . Haven't seen Ryzen going over 35%, other than AoE in late game session. Paired my cpu with a budget Thermalright Assassin 120 SE (5 pipes), and with an undervolt of -50mV, it stays amazingly cool and quiet , idle is about 28°, while barely going over 60° under stress test. Mind you I have an old but decent case with good airflow (3 fans, 2 for push&pull and 1 for the gpu area) and lots of space inside (corsair air 540) One thing I noticed is that as opposed to intel, idle power consumption is quite high. My Xeon at low usage and idle sipped power (from 15 to 28w) while the R5 5600 at idle draws about 25w and 40w in low load scenarios despite the undervolt (can't UV any further as I didn't hit the silicon jackpot with mine)

@DaCat1337

Жыл бұрын

@@GLDragon93 Im glad it works so well for ya! cant wait to build my pc tomorrow :D

@GLDragon93

Жыл бұрын

@@DaCat1337 Hope everything goes well with your new build!

Thank you so much! I wasn't sure if 5600x would be enough for games, which is why I almost decided to build PCs with 7600x for $200 more!

Thanks, this was helpful

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear!

5600 with tuned RAM can utilise properly any GPU below $1000 at 1440P max details. A great CPU for its price now ($120-130), especially with nice RAM costing a bit above $100 for 32GB.

@theHardwareBench

Жыл бұрын

Pretty much any CPU will perform better with ram at the right clock speed and timings, the memory controller makes even more difference. 32GB will cause extra latency at the bleeding edge, 16gb is faster until games need more.

@raghavtripathi564

Жыл бұрын

It would be better to just buy 5800X3D with aguarantee to give solid performance on a trash tier 3200 CL16 RAM rather than spending huge amount on tight RAM and then putting in time and effort tuning it on 5600 to gain less overall performance.

is r5 5600 and rx7700xt a good combo ?

This was very interesting....I have 5600 and was curious how far I could push a gpu upgrade before needing to upgrade the cpu...and now I have my answers

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

Glad my video helped!

do you think a overclocked 5600g with a 7900 xt on 3440x1440p will bottleneck?

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

probably not

Nice video! I have a 5800xt, what's the best cpu can I use for 1440p or 4k gaming?

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

at those resolutions gpu matters a lot more, depending on if you want to upgrade platforms or are already on AMD 5800x3d is good value, but as the video kind of shows for the most part the 5600 will handle higher resolutions fine.

This is what i’ve been saying for a while, any CPU right now thats around Intel 10th gen K series/zen 3 is enough for really any GPU on the market at its optimal resolution. There are a lot of people who are waiting for Zen 4 X3D for some reason just to go in AM5 When theyre wayyy better off saving money with AM4 or Alder Lake/Raptor Lake and a DDR4 board. That or wait for Zen 5 when core counts go up and hopefully newer AM5 and Zen 5 cpus can handle better ram than 6000 mhz DDR5 to make the extra costs matter. If youre on an AM4 board right now the only reason to really upgrade away from AM4 is to get out of pcie gen 3.0 or a bad 300 series board. I think CPUs are hella out pacing GPUs right now for gaming at any resolution that makes sense. For instance you have to just hate money to buy a 4090 for anything other than 4K gaming, literally makes no sense for even 1440p, and ive seen even a 3600 perform decent enough with a 4090 at 4K. My that i mean i think its still noticeably faster than a 4080 in 4K meaning its technically not completely pointless

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

Yeah totally agree, esports titles are the outlier with super high refresh rate monitors hitting the market which requires a pretty high end cpu but thats really the only case.

Super interesting comparison. Well done.

What do you think of the combination of R 7 5800x with the rtx 3070?

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like a powerful combo! hard to get much better in the gpu department than a 3070 with current pricing.

Great video you deserve more subs!

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

Thank you its much appreciated!

One thing to note, the 5600G is the only CPU in the 5600 series that is ONLY PCIE 3.0, the others are 4.0 Just wanted to point that out in case there are others like me that assumed it was also 4.0 and missed that in the specs.

@DPLS77

Жыл бұрын

there are benchmarks showing that when it comes to gaming, the performance gain you get with 4.0 is almost negligible. PCIE 4.0 becomes important when you are running multiple graphics cards or playing on higher resolutions like 4k. Edit:PCIE 4.0 begins to matter when your gpu has more than 16gb of vram. If you had a 4090 (24gb gdr6x) paired with a PCIE 3.0 GPU your bandwidth would be reduced to 16GB/s, maybe even 8GB/s depending on the mobo and cpu, instead of utilizing the full 24GB/s. However most current games do not fully utilize PCIE 3.0 x16, so PCIE 4.0 isn't going to be relevant until games start needing more than 16GB/s of bandwidth

@thescryingpool

Жыл бұрын

​@@DPLS77 True, but if want to enable things like ReBar you need a PCIE 4.0 compatible processor. Even if B550 support it, the processor does not.

@DPLS77

Жыл бұрын

@@thescryingpool I don't think so, I have resizeable bar enabled on a amd 5000 series 3.0 cpu

@thescryingpool

Жыл бұрын

@@DPLS77 You have a 5600G? I couldn't find any info online that confirms if ReBar is possible on a 5600G, save for a few people saying SAM works. I was specifically wondering about ReBar. If you could confirm that, that would be great!

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

Interesting info! Thanks for sharing that I had no idea.

so bottom line, i am in the clear pairing 3090 with 5600x especially on 1440p/2160p resolutions (i mostly play VR anyhow). Thank you for the video!

@Omni-Ray Electronics Since blowing up your comments section on this vid, subbed to your channel. Lol apologies. Hope your channel grows!

@LegitCamelRetro

Жыл бұрын

No worries man I like seeing an active comment section, I appreciate you, thanks!

Very useful video! So it turns out that for 3060 there is no point in buying a processor better than 5600? Well, if the priority is multiplayer and occasionally single games