I own a brushless non HP drill and impact driver. They never let me down and people at work admire my tools. Thank you Ryobi for making decent tools affordable.

Nice breakdown. I did notice you were running a 9ah HP battery verse a 4ah non-hp battery. I would have loved to see 2 4ah batteries to keep it a more fair comparison.

@gtaus1

Жыл бұрын

I have the 9Ah HP battery. The HP tools are smart enough to take advantage of increased Ah of the larger HP Ah batteries compared to the lower Ah HP batteries, and will run stronger. However, there is not any difference in the non-HP tools using the higher Ah batteries that I can discern. If you used a 4Ah battery (HP or non-HP) in the HP tool, you would be leaving a lot of potential power unused. I was very happy to see a HP tool used with the highest Ah HP battery in these tests.

I had a sheet metal contractor in Chicago back in 2018 use Ryobi tools. Basically drilling holes in steel then running in self-tapping screws to fasten siding to the sheeting girts and roof purlins. This wasn't a pre-engineered metal building. It had structural shapes not gage thickness CFM. I asked why Ryobi? His answer - they worked as well as other "big name" tools. The keys - #1 SHARP DRILL BITS #2 CHARGED BATTERIES #3 LET THETOOL DO THE WORK

I love ryobi. They’ve been really good to me over the years. Still using my blue tools from like 2006. It’s really a case of letting the tool do the work and not beating on it and forcing it. They’re a great value brand. And the tools are probably the least used ryobi things I have. We use the vacuum daily. The power inverter and radios and lights.

@1packatak

Жыл бұрын

I have some Blue Tools too!!!

@dmo848

11 ай бұрын

My father taught me the same. I preach that. Let the tool do the job, not you.

All this talk of Ryobi being some 'entry-level' brand actually grates on me a tad. I was entry-level when Jimmy Carter was in office, and I am a total longtime devotee of 18+1 tools now, so there..... I began building up my Ryobi 18+1 collection nearly a decade ago, most of that time having been in the business of doing neighborhood home improvement projects around a small farm town where I live, plus a huge amount of work on my own old house. Hardly a shift at any task goes by that I don't use several of my Ryobis throughout. I don't put in the long hours like I did for years in the residential construction field, but I can say that what I have put my Ryobi tools through definitely adds up to some pretty rigorous usage on all of them. I now have two 1/2 drills, an impact driver, (why drive 3" screws with a drill, I'm wondering? I drive hundreds per year with my impact) a 6-1/2" circular saw, a jigsaw, reciprocating saw, seven batteries of various sizes , three chargers, and just now started on my second weed trimmer after finally beating the first one to death using it as a bush hog on heavy weed growths for six or seven years. I can also say that what I do with all these items pushes each one to their limits fairly routinely, and that all of them (every one the so-called 'homeowner' grade) never fail to do what I ask and keep right on running. I've been so pleased with the abuse they all endure that I never saw any reason to pay more for the 'professional' line. Two keys to my success have been: a) to always use my 4ah batteries on the weed trimmer & saws, and any task with the drills that calls for much loading on the motors, and b) to keep in mind that cordless tools are all well and good, but when I need truly serious power I also have much heavier saws and drills I can just plug in and leave no doubt. For instance I might mix paint with a cordless drill but grab my big Ridgid to mix drywall mud or any kind of cement. And I haven't even considered cordless sanding tools to be a serious option because what I have works fine with cords. (What I've required of a corded DeWalt orbital sander for its fifteen-odd years of service I would never even think of using any cordless version for, and I do a LOT of pretty brutal sanding, mostly for removing old finishes from old wood, with it.....) A guy can pay three times what I've invested over the years for Milwaukee Fuel tools and batteries, or others at that level, and never have to plug anything in, but why? One has to assume there will be a 120v power supply most places where at least my kind of work is going on, and one has to have it to charge batteries anyway, so in a sense buying the high-end cordless tools just to be impressed with them without a cord is kind of a vanity thing in my view. When it's time to use a Skil77 worm-drive, it's time to use the worm-drive, and even the toughest high-dollar cordless tools will only be an adequate substitute up to a point, and a very costly point for my purposes. I use my cordless stuff because I can and because it always works, but I also know its limits, and so my cordless stuff runs and runs and runs when I need it to. For price, selection, availability, battery compatibility, ergonomics, power, and reliability, building up my Ryobi collection from a single 1/2 drill ten years ago (that is still going strong) has been one of the best tool strategies I ever came up with. I'd say paying extra for the pro-models might feel good for being able to, but if you want solid performance from a totally affordable collection built up over years, I'm here to tell ya the 'entry-level' series are more than satisfactory, and after 45 years in the trades I hardly call myself any beginner.

@user-nk7yp8sj6o

Ай бұрын

Extremely well said. Spoken like a true professional tradesman.

I have the Brushed Ryobi tools. I don't use them every day, but when I do I use them hard. I've had them for years with no issues. I'll upgrade to brushless when they burn out.

@orangefaygo1

18 күн бұрын

Exactly. I have higher power batteries now but haven't killed the brushed drill yet😂

In 2018 I bought a Ryobi Impact and drill combo set at HD for $79. I saw impact drivers alone there for $180 so I thought I would take a chance on the Ryobi drills. I didn't know much about Ryobi, but I've been using them for five years and am really pleased. I've since then bought other Ryobi tools.

@norml.hugh-mann

2 ай бұрын

same with me...bought ryobi for my boat onboard tools in 2017 and still run like new

THANK YOU for highlighting the differences in the lines. I'm so tired of the guys who buy the cheapest Ryobi drill and whine about how crappy they are.

Love the videos. I was against Ryobi when I was in the trade. I liked dewalt and Milwaukee. I got a shock when my father in law gave me a few Ryobi tools for Xmas. The new Ryobi tools are just as good as the other brands. Some Ryobi tools are better like the nail guns.

@MadManUSMC

Жыл бұрын

Fun fact : TTI, who owns Ryobi, Hart, Milwaukee, and Rigid, has made Ryobi stop production on several tools because they were too good. They had a saws all that a orbital switch. They made a series of impact bits that had to be stopped and rebranded as Milwaukee.

@lukas______

6 ай бұрын

​@@MadManUSMCnow if only we could get the model #s of the ones that were too good lol

I get so tired of telling people all the time to stay away from the cheaper ryobi products and those budget friendly combo packs if they're expecting long lasting quality, mostly because of the under-performing batteries. Also constantly preaching using the correct tool for the job can make a huge difference. I have a huge arsenal of Ryobi tools as well as Makita that I use everyday as a tradesman and and they perform nearly the same for most uses. Also, I'll mention that over the last 20+ years I've sent lots of overpriced "Yellow's" and "Reds" to the great tool cemetery, but not many "Greens"!

@yomamma6756

Жыл бұрын

Do you know specifically what went wrong? My buddy just gave me 3 dewalt xr 2 hammer drills and an impact that all sort of work i like to play around with them see if I can get one working well for a truck drill/ rain drill let my friend use because he doesn’t ever bring his own even after we bought him one for Christmas, drill

@ronlovell5374

Жыл бұрын

@yomamma6756 mostly worn brushes, burnouts, internal electrical failures and some newer models of impacts with the auto torque levels can't even sink a 1 inch tapcon or drill with a decent auger bit. Also had one (from team red) catch fire after bouncing off a ladder with about a ten foot drop.

@quimblyjones9767

10 ай бұрын

The only issues I've had with Ryobi are 1, the build quality on some products fail but are still covered under warranty. 2, they don't hit that super hard work mode that I've needed maybe 2 or 3 times. Like the circular saw that bogged down and stalled when cutting into a gum sleeper or that nail gun that just couldn't handle a knot.

@ronlovell5374

7 ай бұрын

@anothermovienerd the 6 1/2 and 7 1/4 ones aren't too bad with diablo blades in em, but yeah the 5 1/2 one is pretty much only good for paneling and thinner sheathing products, also roybi's blades are junk, changing them to almost anything else really improves their performance

@jamesli5823

7 ай бұрын

Most people don't expect long last quality though. They want affordable and reliable toolset to get started. By the time they actually break their cheaper greens they will have known better about what tools to invest in next. In that sense, the cheaper greens fill their roles perfectly.

I have tools from both lines. My old brushed drill and impact literally did a drywall job, fixed up 2 decks, and framed my shed. The oscillating tool has also been used for like 3 drywall jobs. I always use 4amp batteries. Never an issue. I am upgrading to the hp as I go, but none of the brushed have died yet. Including the brushed impact driver I dropped in a pond.

You did a great video on Ryobi. I have a very full line of Ryobi tools, and a few Milwaukee 12 volt tools, and a few Makita tools. Ryobi holds it's own against the other brands. By the way, I am not a contractor. I am a pastor, but I serve in a small church in a rural setting in NW Florida. I do a lot of fixing work at my house and the church. Bottom all my tools are better than my skill. Ryobi is Great. Thank you for your video.

My DeWalt DCF887 Impact Driver is really awful. It's been back for repair twice in 4 months, and I've only had the thing since November '23! The second time I was driving 'TORX' headed screws 40mmX5mm: I never use anything else but TORX headed screws: into 3X3 timber, and the chuck literally disintegrated before my eyes. This happened on the 3RD SCREW! No refunds from Stanley Black and Decker, no refunds from the retailer either. Rubbish absolutely rubbish, and I trusted DeWalt from their reputation!!

That last gen brushed impact is actually really good

@gtaus1

Жыл бұрын

I still have, and use, a number of brushed blue Ryobi tools that came with Ni-Cad batteries 18 years ago. For my DIY work, they get the job done with my new Li-Ion batteries. I have also upgraded to newer generations of brushed Ryobi tools and HP Ryobi tools. Ryobi keeps improving their tools, but my oldest blue Ryobi tools are still getting the job done in almost all my needs. Biggest Ryobi advantage to me is that the same battery platform can power my oldest Ryobi tools.

@stinkycheese804

5 күн бұрын

That's actually their current generation brushed impact in the video. The differences are that it has a black composite glass fiber reinforced plastic gearhead housing instead of the silver and previously, silver metal housings on prior generations of brushed drivers. It is very thick and rigid plastic so holds up fine.

You’re completely correct about the entry level tools, in fact, those are what drove me away from the platform, namely the brushed drill and oscillating multitool. I could stop the multitool from cutting with very little pressure. I did have a p238 impact that was an absolute beast though, it was just huge lol. I switched before the hp line hit the shelves, or I’d still be on the platform. I’ve literally never seen a bad review of a hp tool, they just aren’t as fast as higher end tools.

I'm a homeowner with a 45 y/o house on 3/4 acres. Among other things, I needed some cordless tools to help maintain a fence that really needs to be replaced. I'm not using them every day, but I need to have reliable tools that will get the job done. The Ryobi brushed tools have been serving me nicely.

I buy blemished Ryobi tools for a big savings. As my older non-Ryobi wear out or break I replace them with Ryobi. I hove rental property so I have purchased several of the cleaning tools, such as the 2 gallon vacuum, extendable power scrubber, fogger and the chemical sprayer. It has made keeping up my properties so much easier. Especially when a renter leaves and we need to cleanup for the next renter. I think the next purchase will be the 9 foot lopper, at my age I hate ladders :) Oops, I forgot to say thanks for the review.

I purchased my first RYOBI because they tried to get rid of blue version with the nicad battery drill on a HD special sale. Knowing if I like it, I can simply add more to grow my collection. I was impressed, forwarded to get their mainstream updated green versions with the new lithium ion batteries in my collection of RYOBI One+ system.

I was using Black and Decker which was fine, I moved over to Ryobi for the battery system, It's been good for me. I am currently at 12 batteries, I always got juice. Drills, track saw, planer, little gadgets all work fine for what I need for around the house.

My experience with Ryobi HP tools has been pretty positive. My real complaint is their circular saws. Ryobi couldn’t make a good quality circular saw to save their lives. Also I have dealt with their customer service a couple times and it has always been really positive.

@user-nk7yp8sj6o

Ай бұрын

I couldn't agree with you more. The little 5-1/2 in. circular saw is the only Ryobi tool that I have that I really feel is an under performer. Luckily I got it a pawn shop for $25. It works well enough for my lightweight small projects. I use my ancient, all metal housing, 1960's corded 7-1/4 in. B&D circular saw for the more taxing tasks.

I own multiple platforms and Ryobi holds its own in most cases. What like about the HP impact driver is the weight, lighter than some of my others and works great in extended arm use for me. So I usually use these on the lighter duty projects. Those lag bolts you demonstrated I would use a different platform. My experience with the HP series prolong use on big lag bolts tends to heat mine up a bit much where others chug right through. I still like Ryobi and has a home with me.

I was recently in Home Depot. There was a young lady (not a Home Depot) employee greeted me. She had a Ryobi T Shirt on. A week went by and I had to stop in at Home Depot to pick something up. That same young lady had a Milwaukee T-Shirt on. I ask her if she was a sales rep for both products. She said yes. I had a Ryobi customer service man (factory) call me the other day. I ask him what other products came from the Ryobi factory. He said they are Ryobi, Milwaukee, Dewalt and probably others that are made in China. I guess Ryobi is good for home use while the other brands are made better and are made for commercial use. I have a lot of Ryobi 18 volt products and they serve me well.

@vijilant

4 ай бұрын

It's Ryobi, Milwaukee, Ridgid (aka AEG in some countries). As far as I know DeWalt is a whole different company.

@dhansel4835

4 ай бұрын

Thanks@@vijilant

@reginaldallenii5681

27 күн бұрын

@@vijilant Yep, techtronic is the parent company for ryobi, milwaukee, and rigid. Dewalt is a part of Stanley Black & Decker

@stinkycheese804

5 күн бұрын

She was pulling your leg, not a sales rep, just an employee who snagged free t-shirts. There is no possible reason they would plant a sales rep in a single store all day just in case a random customer were to start looking at cordless tools. Trade shows yes, individual Home Depot stores, not so much. Don't assume the others are made better just because of the brand name. For example, you can get a low end model from Dewalt, at only a slightly higher price than Ryobi, that isn't significantly different. If you want their contractor grade tools then you're going to spend twice as much. Dewalt's (and Milwaukee's) high end beats Ryobi's any day of the week, but you're going to pay for that extra performance and durability, including higher priced batteries.

I went with Kobalt XTR cause of the power of the tools. But I love how many different tools Ryobi has. That alone honestly makes me want to switch!

@breeze787

Жыл бұрын

Well . . . . . . you do have the word green in your handle which to me makes a nice fit.

@markw2266

6 ай бұрын

Why switch ? Just an extra charger and batteries. I have dewalt, milwaukee, and now ryobi for that reason. They make a lot of cool stuff.

I had that same cheap entry level drill and impact driver kit. I took a chance on the HP kit for $50 more. I quickly found myself upgrading every possible tool that I had to the HP version. Now, that’s all I’ll buy unless I don’t have a choice.

@enigmaepic17

7 ай бұрын

Hi. can i ask a question? I am ignorant so im just going to ask it but i dont mean any offense. If money was no issue, would you stay with ryobi or go with another tool brand?

@ryobiguydiy

7 ай бұрын

@@enigmaepic17 Probably and that’s only because I’m not a professional carpenter, plumber or mechanic, but I love tools and building things. If you buy Ryobi’s HP lineup of tools, you’re getting a Prosumer grade tool with pretty good performance at a great price.

@enigmaepic17

7 ай бұрын

@@ryobiguydiy Thank you 😃

@ryobiguydiy

7 ай бұрын

@@enigmaepic17 You’re welcome.

Pretty awesome video. I think you could get a nice improvement with the brushed tool, if you used the better battery with it.

@matf3337

11 ай бұрын

Incorrect that's not how electricity and batteries work but thanks for your input

In the Uk, the Ryobi impact HP is over £100 where as the Milwaukee impact fuel can be purchased for £75. In some cases Ryobi is no longer the budget friendly brand.

I love all my Ryobi tools. I have a growing collection of 18v 1+ tools and I have the 40v blower, 16"chainsaw, and string trimmer that feels like to me are every bit as powerful as gas engined counterparts.

Ryobi looks nice and i like that they use the same batteries for a long time, but here in europe they cost about as much as an equivalent bosch professional 18V. So i don't really see much point to them unfortunatly.

I still have a regular drill and hammer drill, sawzall, and reciprocating saw in blue. Like the original that came with ni-cad batteries. And I am more than a tool weekend warrior. With forward compatible battery tech, and all the tools I have collected through the years, I am all in on Ryobi.

I have had Ryobi tools for nearly 10 years. I started with a drill/driver combo pack (brushed) and they are still going great on the original 1.5AH batteries. I now also have the brushless models (not HP) and about 10 other 18v tools and all work very well. I use them almost every day and they just keep on keeping on. They are certainly not the cheapest range here in NZ - the brushed impact driver is $137 without the battery and charger and the drill is $116, but they do have a 6-year no-questions-asked warranty, which I have claimed on a couple of times when the odd tool has failed. They are as good as any other brand I have tried.

I did not notice the difference but now i see the light my friend. Lol now i gotta upgrade. Aww man

Excellent video. As a DIYer, I just want to get the job done. The few seconds saved by using the more expensive and powerful HP tools is not my major consideration. I would rather keep $60 in my pocket and work 30 seconds longer (per year) driving those lag bolts. Also, those HP batteries cost more than non-HP batteries. How is it that the non-HP impact driver was faster than the HP impact driver in both the 8" timberlock and 3/8" lag screw tests? Did not expect that.

@ethandonivan5175

Жыл бұрын

It is weird it also has a higher tq rating than all the top of the line DeWalt impact drivers. And it seems to outperform all Makita besides the 40v. I have mostly HP tools because usually they are a lot better, but for my impact driver I have a 3 speed brushed Ryobi still sold with this same motor and hammering assembly. Just has a mechanical 3 speed switch on the back and 3 extra lights that stay on. I think it's like 15 bucks more but worth it. It also has a metal cover for the hammering assembly that lets it cool much better.

@showersdpn

Жыл бұрын

I also prefer to save a buck here and there. Especially when it's about the same amount of power. Some things though like the bottom of the line stick vacuums and the handheld carpet spot shampooer and some lawn mowers have a lot of bad reviews for lack of power. So I avoid things that SHOULD be brushless.

@stinkycheese804

5 күн бұрын

@@ethandonivan5175 The hammer assembly does not need extra cooling. It is the motor that is more prone to overheating if pushing it hard. Metal is far more important for rigidity on an impact wrench that develops a lot more torque. The 3 lights on the head on yours, is a feature that many people wish had stuck around instead of putting the light on the base or omitting it on the entry level tools. Personally, I could care less because I own too many flashlights to count, learned long ago that trying to work in the dark is a bad idea for several possible reasons. Their reciprocating saw has a light too... yeah, I'm going to be sawing things in the dark. Not!

Bought the brushless HP combo drill/impact lit for $55 after returning the bonus, 3rd battery. PSBDD01 & PSBID01 Can't beat the price.

While exclusively sold at HD, it isn't a HD house brand. Those would be Husky or Everbuilt brands. I also wouldn't describe the HP line as professional either. It is *their* premium line, but they are all geared towards the homeowner/ DiY'ers. Great comparison video though. Similar scenario could be applied to most tools brands, where someone is comparing bottom of the barrel old tech that is still sold to the newest latest offering.

that is also a HP battery vs the standard battery i love my Ryobi but if your gonna do side by side with brushed vs brushless use the same battery. please make every thing as comparable as possible to show the difference of the tool

@matf3337

11 ай бұрын

That's not how that work ho tools don't perform better without hp batteries.. that's like you wanting a 3g phone to work on 5g it's not compatible past 3g

@stinkycheese804

5 күн бұрын

Maybe except that this was like an introduction to Ryobi tools for people that don't have them yet. If you have them, you already have whichever batteries you bought or that came in the kit, so those are what you're going to use. Besides, taking the impact driver for example who is going to buy the low end impact driver but then splurge on the higher cost HP batteries for it? It doesn't even have the extra contact on the tool to do anything more with the HP batteries like the HP brushless tools have... yet it did just fine without, because a little 1/4" drive impact driver is not very current hungry. The drill, not even sure why he chose that one because you can get their brushed hammer drive for about $40 and it's significantly more powerful, was once their upper-tier drill before they introduced their brushless lines.

I think it is interesting that the brushed impact driver was faster and more powerful. I have and like my ryobi, but use my M12 impactor and drill more.

Yes, the cheaper tools from Ryobi, often referred to as entry-level tools, still offer good functionality and value for money, especially for those on a budget or new to DIY projects. While they may not have all the advanced features or durability of the higher-end professional-level tools, they are capable of performing a wide range of tasks effectively. As demonstrated in the transcript, these entry-level tools can still drive screws, drill holes, and handle various tasks adequately, making them suitable for many home improvement projects. Therefore, while they may not be as powerful or feature-rich as the higher-end options, they still serve their purpose well for casual or occasional use.

I'm a home diyer and been using Ryobi for years. Have quite a few of them. Was happy till I had to cut square tubing 2.5x2.5 with the angle grinder. It bugged on me a few times. The next day went and bought a super combo of Milwaukee and never looked back.

I got into ryobi while helping out at the barn. I had only corded tools and it limited to what i could do. Hard to work when you need 300ft of cord. I began using my wages and scoping out the cordless models. Went with ryobi getting a circ saw and drill/driver. As the needs changed other ryobis were purchased. As for performance it all depends on what you need to do. Most if not all are brushed units. I'm kinda leery of the hp brushless types as there seems to be a question of reliability. I've seen some vids where the hp brushless cut out and smoke after hard use. Could be that the user exceeded specs. I'm looking at mini chainsaws including ryobi, but thus far it appears all brands have that same cut out failure or the bat won't take a charge after a few moments of use.

The fun part for me is that since ryobi always used smart batteries that protect themselves automatically, _the tools themselves_ don't have a protection pin, just (+) and (-). So the Ryobi stuff will accept ANY dirty power you can pump into the tools(within reason) 🙂 I've been using HILTI 24v batteries on my ryobi stuff for years with no problems

@liamstraub3394

6 ай бұрын

Youre insane, i love it lol

Great Video. I've been a fan of Ryobi for years now. I have all HP tools, and it can easily go toe to toe with Milwaukee and DeWalt. I was wondering if you could do a review of the new Ryobi 6" brushless pruning chainsaw Model #P25013BTL. Thank you, I really appreciate it.

Ryobi power tools are great. I have quite a few of them. The problem is that they have become very popular in the last years, and with that, their prices go up.

Brushes vs brushless, really. If you're doing big things get the brushless. If you do small projects around the house, brushed works fine. Just a little slower and might need extra prep on your work to overcome the torque and tool construction differences.

Both have their purpose and plusses and minuses. I keep my brushed tools home for light duty and more control, my brushless higher end ryobis like the impact shown here I keep in my truck for work. (IT professional)

Im a Milwaukee guy but the Ryobi tools i have I love, Great tools

@user-nk7yp8sj6o

Ай бұрын

I started off my 18 volt cordless tool usage with Milwaukee 18v hammer drills, not long after they came out with their 18 volt line. They were very expensive. I had all sorts of issues with the chucks & internal gears of two hammer drills & went through 5 batteries & a charger. Both hammer drills failed shortly after their warrantees ran out. I switched to the Ryobi 18 volt hammer drill & never looked back.

My Ryobi 262 1/2 inch impact lasted a week and about a dozen uses before it stripped out..! $200+ pos But, I really like the 7-8 other Ryobi tools & 3-4 lights I have. The lights are top notch imo.

How about using the same battery in each tool !!! Makes comparison equal.

Ryobi is a great brand. I think one of the reasons for the bad rap is early brushed models and content creators that showed HP tools ( like the angle grinder ) and used a 1.5AH old black, non-HP, battery to show Ryobi is not good. Or the content creator that said all Ryobi HP tools catch on fire, which if it were remotely true would have Ryobi pulled from shelves forever.

Like any tool, get the right tool for the right job. I am not in the construction area so my light work around my home, the value Ryobi tools are great. I have not had any issues with them and I can get a great price. Thanks

IMO, most of Ryobi's bad rap, that I had both seen from people using them years ago, and also read complaints about many times in forums, is a combination of memories from the NiCd era when many brands were disliked once their batteries started to age and become less effective and rapid self-discharge, but also there were the bottom feeders buying the Ryobi (and craftsman, also made by TTI for decades now until the recent SB&D acquisition), Black and Decker, Skill, etc, and those people didn't know how to use NiCd cordless tools. They would run the tool till the battery was nearly drained, tool obviously slowing down, yet they try to keep using it which is a BIG no-no with NiCd tools. The weakest cell in the series would drop to 0V and begin reverse charging and damaging it, then their pack was very weak. A side effect of Li-Ion batteries today is that the same protection circuit needed to keep the packs from becoming a fire hazard, also won't let similarly ignorant users drain them so far as to cause damage. Then there are the silly videos, and I'm not really trying to single out this one, where everything becomes some race between two different tools, as if you'd be on a jobsite all day and whether you're saving 2 seconds per fastener is really doing to matter. However, if you happened to get 25% longer runtime from a brushless tool and don't have to swap and charge batteries as often, that may matter in real world professional use. As far as what can drive the biggest longest lag bolt before choking, meh I don't care. It seems silly to me to pick a 1/4" drive tool for that in the first place, is why 3/8" and larger drive, especially impact wrenches, exist. I am in favor of a tool having as broad an application set as possible, but frankly there is too much overlap where I barely even need an impact driver due to a strong hammer drill, and an impact wrench. That is unless it is a very short/stubby impact driver or a right angle wrench, so it will fit in tight spaces. That doesn't mean I don't use an impact driver as I do have what you're calling the entry level Ryobi in this video, and most often what I'm doing is using one of their drills to make pilot holes and then the impact driver for the fastener, but I could use the drill for both as it makes about 60ft-lbs and above that, I'm again getting into impact wrench territory and probably using a hex head fastener so a socket on the impact wrench is the more direct, lower-torque-loss way to do it, rather than relatively more fragile, and wobbly, 1/4" to 1/4" or to 3/8" adapter bit and then the socket. Essentially, I don't think impact drivers really need to be any more powerful than about 100 ft-lbs. but where they are lacking and some improvement is being made in the industry, is electronic clutches so they don't destroy the fasteners as easily, which helps even more when they are models that spin at the higher RPMs to begin with, and people get the idea it is always a race so they're just leaving it in the highest speed when a multi-speed driver. I am glad that you tested with the 4Ah batteries, but for most uses I have for an impact driver, I'd just pick the lightest battery I have available, one of their 1.x or 2.x Ah and save the larger batteries for tools that need them. I mean if you buy a kit that comes with the smaller packs, I'd never buy less than their 4.0Ah separately.

I'm a weekend warrior. I have a half dozen Ryobi tools and the held up for years. I don’t need contractor grade tools and their prices. The versatility of the Ryobi tools lets me buy more of the tools I need so that I can fix stuff myself instead of hiring a contractor. In my experience, they are more than just good enough, they offer very good value for the money. I have the older version of the impact driver and it had done everything I've ever asked it to do. I love it! The orbital sander eats the small batteries like crazy, but the HP batteries make a huge difference. I guess that's why they call them High Performance. Their small circular saw also works great for regular cuts in plywood and 2x4s, just not so much for making precise angled cuts. Or maybe that's just a skill I have not mastered yet.

@user-nk7yp8sj6o

Ай бұрын

I too never liked the small Ryobi batteries. I found them to be pretty much useless in regards to longevity or performance. They are the only Ryobi batteries that I had to discard [2 ea.] because they wouldn't hold a charge.

Why were you not using the same size/capacity/type battery in both units?

one thing I heard and I do not know if it is true or not is that the gears are made of plastic and not metal which causes a lot of failures.

I'm pretty sure sitting 1 is not the power setting probably why the brushed even came close especially considering the brushless has both higher ah and output power so I might redo this comparison with more even grounds none of it really made sense I appreciate the time put into it but yaaaaa😅

The 3/8 drive impact brushed is stronger than the brushless version.

A fair amount of the Ryobi stuff handles well, as long as the batteries are 4ah or more, and the hp batteries seem like a worthwhile thing to spring for. The one+ impact, in particular, is great- got it in a pckage deal, and Ive beat the hell out of it.... still going

I get teased for my 19.2 Craftsman stuff, but it's the same thing, buy the combo pack and you got the base tools usually with a Nicd battery, or, if you wanted a good one, buy the brushless drill, 3 speed impact, and the 4.0 NiMH batteries, they were the same as the top end Ryobi, been years, been used to death and they still work. Unfortunately, no decent Craftsman will ever be produced again, my next set will be a Ryobi set. Even the brad nailer, it came out in the Craftsman name first, it's parts are completely interchangeable with the Ryobi

@stinkycheese804

5 күн бұрын

That's not entirely accurate, after SB&D acquired Craftsman, they started pumping out models that shared a lot in common with their contractor grade Dewalt designs. A current generation SB&D made Craftsman 20V (aka 18V) is every bit as good as your 19.2V TTI made Craftsmans are, except the bonus of running off Li-Ion batteries which was one of the biggest complaints of users in the first place. My first Craftsman cordless drill was a 7.2V, and was used all day, every day in a contractor HVAC job. It still works today, 30 years later, though I had to rebuild the battery and now switched it to 2 x 18650 Li-Ion with a BMS from Aliexpress and a charger PCB off ebay.

I love how people say Ryobi are entry level, residential grade tools. The parent company of Ryobi also owns Milwaukee, Homelite, Oreck, Dirt Devil, Hoover, AEG, and RIDGID. I’ve got a Ryobi battery that’s 12 years old. I use it in my work radio at work 6 days a week, 9 hours a day. It will still go two shifts between charges. The housing is cracked from years of abuse and it spent a winter in an unheated garage. It’s still a rockstar.

@stinkycheese804

5 күн бұрын

Well it's Ryobi's parent TTI themselves too. They deliberately target Ryobi at DIYers and want to sell Milwaukee to contractors and other pros, so almost always the Milwaukee in the same type tool is better, with rare exceptions when the product cycle dates differ and Ryobi just released something new but Milwaukee's newer generation is lagging behind still.

My main tools used to be dewalt and I dropped my drill from about 8 feet of a ladder and the dewalt cracked and stopped working, I purchased a ryobi when they were still blue and had the same situation happen and the ryobi was perfectly fine, that was 12 years ago and that drill still chugs along and I have since purchased a dozen more that I set up for different things and have never had an issue other than the batteries.

@gregorsamsa1364

Ай бұрын

Plenty of dewalt drills have been dropped from high places and been just fine. And plenty of ryobi drills have been dropped from high places and broke. There are a bunch of different factors that contribute to whether a tool breaks when dropped. For example, exactly which part of the tool hits the ground first, and at what angle, and the angular momentum, as well as the particular hardness and texture of the ground. For a meaningful comparison, you'd need to set up a controlled environment and run a good number of trials

@stinkycheese804

5 күн бұрын

Okay but a drop, then damage has a lot to do with the particular angle it hit, and how hard the floor was. The main takeaway should be, don't drop your tools. Put a lanyard on it and wrap that around your wrist if there's a possibility of dropping it or if you aren't holding it, have a belt and belt clip on it. Granted not all tools can take a belt clip and not all belt clips are created equal.

When you buy those 'low end' side, I suggest to get a hammer drill version instead of just a drill. Or you can even buy a Hammer drill as a bare tool with the drill/driver kit. The reason is, you may need a hammer drill at least once. And the Ryobi hammer drill, the entry model, comes with a whopping 'Metal' chuck! Same as those high-end or professional tools!! I have that bigshot HP hammer drill and it's running better than some professional grade tools. And I need it to fix my god forbidden backyard which involved not only lawn care but also mason work... Tapcons etc. But as long as you don't have to drill 100s holes into a concrete everyday, the Ryobi brushed hammer drill will serve you long enough! And again, the metal chuck!!

@stinkycheese804

5 күн бұрын

Yes I've had their P214 brushed hammer drill for a number of years now and it has been great, and a great value as I only paid $40 or so at the time for it as a bare tool, and is still about $40 today, though with recent inflation, wouldn't surprise me if it crept up to $50.

I have had my brushed Ryobi tools for at least 5 years never had any issues I beat the crap out of them. I have had other brands and after 2 to 3 years they would burn out the Ryobi have lasted through the abuse I put them through.

I have beaten the heck out of my ryobi tools and they just keep going. Best value around. Some other brands are better but they tend to cost way more money.

You get what you pay for...shocker! Honestly, thr entry level tools are more than adequate for the average homeowner that may only use them a few times a year. The rest of us are usually smart enough to buy the better tools if we need them. I have both the entry level impact and drill along with the best brushless impact and drill in my collection. While the brushless tools certainly offer better performance, the entry level tools have lived up to every penny of their modest price tags and then some.

How do you tell the difference between professional Ryobi and basic Ryobi tools? When buying. What do you look for?

@stinkycheese804

5 күн бұрын

HP, brushless, higher specs and cost, and HP batteries to go with them. Frankly, it's not as important as some people try to make it out to be. For example you saw in the video that the non-HP base model impact driver, did just fine with their regular non-HP batteries, and so do their brushed hammer drills, but they have a little shorter runtime due to being brushed motor tools. For people not using and recharging them all day long, it doesn't matter much. Marketing depts love to make mountains out of mole hills.

Are we not going to talk about how the brushed tool seemed like it had more power, finishing the sinker even faster than the brushless....?

@stinkycheese804

5 күн бұрын

He didn't try to hide that at all, even remarked about it. The takeaway should have been, that either were powerful enough, but the brushless having multiple speeds, is more suitable for delicate work, and will run longer because of the more efficient motor. Not everything is about a race to finish a fastener 3 seconds faster. Sadly, that's all most youtube reviews seem to be able to focus on.

I demolished an hp impact driver. They do not thermal overload. The protection supposedly built in does not work. I pushed the driver too hard, working it non stop for 6 solid hours salvaging a deck. Between 3 people, 4 batteries and 3 chargers it saw zero rest for 6 solid hours. It still works but it surges and is way down on power. The warranty is a maybe and involves more shipping costs then the tool is worth. Lesson learned, use the cheapness of the tools to simply have multiples, when the battery runs out rest the tool and use the alternate.

@stinkycheese804

5 күн бұрын

Where have you been all these years? Anyone with common sense knows to not push a tool to the point of overheating and then expect a protection circuit to save them. Ryobi, Dewalt, any brand, cordless or corded, doesn't matter. The thing is, you put a protection circuit on and then all the reviewers try to push the tool as hard as possible and it cuts out and then they whine that it cut out. However i have to wonder where you are getting such terrible shipping rates. Unless you are overseas, you should be able to either hand deliver or ship to the nearest service center for $25 or less, and the tool should have cost more than $25. In some cases, Home Depot has exchanged tools with proof of purchase but I'm not sure if they still do that. Don't wait till a battery runs out to rest a tool. Rest it based on how hot it's getting. You can slap a 9Ah battery in a tool and burn it out before the battery is half drained, if you bog it down so the motor slows down, then the fan on the motor is moving less air because direct driven on the motor shaft, and presto, heat builds up.

Even if ryobi tools were as good as top level tools, the awkward battery shape would still be a deal-breaker for me. It makes storage and transport way less convenient. Doesn't matter so much for a home set, but it's important when it comes to professional use. Then there's the color. Something about that color really grates on my eyes and i really wouldn't want to look at it all day

They should make the brushed impact driver brushless it would be the most powerful impact driver ryobi has to offer.

Ryobi isn’t Home Depot’s house brand. That’d be Husky. Kobalt is Lowe’s.

Life hack: If you unscrew the screws along the base and handle of the housing on the HP drill, there is an empty space at the front where you can slot some neodymium magnets in.

@stinkycheese804

5 күн бұрын

Life hack 201: You can epoxy neo magnetic onto just about anything, anywhere (besides the rubber grips, lol).

@mixerfistit5522

4 күн бұрын

@@stinkycheese804 that was gonna be my original method, then I was gonna epoxy it to the inside so it was invisible. Then I for once in my life a project became simpler than I expected

If you cannot do without the tool for 90 days and it’s too expensive to buy another one choose a different brand. Ryobi has a Crap warranty. On paper it’s three years, but your product may be in the shop for months. For example, think of the lawnmower. You can’t do without it for 90 days and at $500 you don’t want to buy another one. My Ryobi impact wrench failed and I just bought another one. The broken one is still in the shop five months later. My lawnmower failed, and I changed brands. The repair shop had 40 of them lined up all with similar problems (electronics board). Ryobi refuses to replace it until it’s diagnosed “unrepairable”. I wonder when that will be? They may be able to repair it in a year or two. The burden for the Warranty should be upon them, not me. If they cared about their customers they would swap out for a new product and worry about the repairs themselves. This would also motivate them to build a better product. As it is, they have no such motivation.

Even my cheaper ryobi models do well. They usually have the more expensive HP version but I have never needed it even at work.

I like ryobi it do the job as milwaukee dewalt and aforable prize but one of the ting i don't like ryobi is the battery it stick out of my pants or jacket or short not like dewalt milwaukee ridgid Hart etc etc

I must admit I used it for 7 years most of the Ryobi stuff and it's been brilliant Downside on it when it wears out stuff

the same company that makes Milwaukee Ridgid and a couple other ones make Ryobi also

Put soap on wood screws to make them easier to drive and split less wood.

@stinkycheese804

5 күн бұрын

or do it right and make pilot holes.

I think the HP battery, if used on both models might make a difference? Also, what is quality of the motor bearings between models? The Ryobi tools , either model, do what I need done , and more, as a homeowner. If we’re in the business the Milwaukee , or Flex , or Dewalt platforms might be a better choice.

@matf3337

11 ай бұрын

Your thoughts don't make sense..... haha fCts don't care about your feelings

@matf3337

11 ай бұрын

Your opinion means nothing but you have a right to voice it

@stinkycheese804

5 күн бұрын

The HP battery has additional contacts that their non-HP brushed tools do not make use of. The motor bearings can't be directly compared. The brushed tools use the same totally enclosed motor module design that brushed tools have used for decades while the brushess is more a frame holding a separate bearing. It really isn't an issue, the bearings don't tend to wear out unless you subject them to a very abrasive environment like letting the tool suck in plaster or concrete dust, and then the contractor grade brands will wear out their bearing too, except in a few designs that used sealed ball or needle bearings.

I've been a Ryobi user for well over 10 yrs and I love that all the batteries work with everything... BUT, they're gonna have to bite the bullet and get rid of the battery stems and create a cheap/free adapter or something.... and why would anyone have a 9ah battery on a hammer drill? (subtle observation)... Anyway, I'm fortunate in that I've been able to begin my transition to their big brother Ridgid...

@stinkycheese804

5 күн бұрын

On the one hand I'd like to agree with you because it does waste some space with the battery stem, and the design of the contacts inherently limits current compared to interlocking (sliding) blade design that most tools have now, but on the other hand, HECK NO! The primary reason I have a set of Ryobi is that they keep the battery format the same, far longer than everyone else did. I agree that you don't necessarily need a 9Ah battery on a hammer drill, but if you also have higher current drawing tools like saws, and are going to buy new batteries, it makes more sense to buy batteries that can handle your most demanding tools, and that they can work in the other tools is just gravy, except when doing something highly repetitious where the extra weight becomes fatiguing or keeps the tool from fitting in a tight space. Now the funny part about adapters. I have an adapter to use my stemmed Ryobi batteries in my Dyson vac. I almost made one to run my Ryobi batteries in my Dewalt drill, but then decided, it would be too cumbersome and rebuilt the Dewalt battery instead.

So, what ARE the differences?

It's not going to be just about power but the duty cycle of those motors is probably going to be different. The HP is meant to be used all day I would imagine and the non-HP/brushed motors are not meant to be used all day.

@stinkycheese804

5 күн бұрын

Yes that is true, though you can use the brushed all day, just stop and let it cool down every now and then. The same is true of the brushless, but you can run it longer before it is wise to stop and let it cool down.

The only problem that I have ever had with anything Ryobi (had them over 10 years) are the batteries. They just don't last.

@stinkycheese804

5 күн бұрын

You must mean the NiCd or NiMH batteries and that is a common complaint about any brand's NiCds. I have multiple Ryobi 4Ah Li-Ion batteries and they all work fine still, but have never owned a single NiCd powered tool that didn't need the batteries replaced every (very) few years and still they rapidly self discharged.

if you are going to compare side by side, you need to use the same amp/hr battery.

@stinkycheese804

5 күн бұрын

Not necessarily, if you are comparing what you get in kits that come with a battery. Who buys the lower tier tool but then the higher tier battery, especially when the brushed tools don't even have the extra battery contacts that the HP batteries have? Besides, who really cares about a few seconds? Ryobi was always about the value and the 4Ah non-HP batteries are one of the best values on the market, can get a kit of 2 of them, even a free one thrown in and a spare charger too, on Home Depot's Ryobi Days sales, for $80 to $100.

Ryobi works just fine.

Looks like you're using the 4ah battery with the brushed tools, while using what appears to be a 9ah battery for the brushless tools. That is going to give a huge advantage for the brushless tools. Not exactly a fair comparison.

Got a 18V hammer drill..POS stop drilling and the chuck keeps turning and unscrewing and the bit falls out. Danger of buying online.

@stinkycheese804

5 күн бұрын

Sorry for your trouble. My Ryobi P214 hammer drill has been great. Maybe your chuck just needs lubed and tightened down more?

@GlenDoer-gq1rs

5 күн бұрын

@@stinkycheese804 It needs replacing with some thing of quality got 2 both have the same prob//If I can work out how to get the chuck off I will fit a Rohm chuck.

That brushed impact busted the HP's but 😂

@stinkycheese804

5 күн бұрын

Except that it's going to slow down more as the battery drains, and drain the battery faster. Otherwise yes, it's a great value when you get it for $35 or less, or in a bundle where it didn't add more than that to the total price.

Need to add some soap to the screws...

Ryobi is supposed to be a quick useful tool that does everything and it does the job. I own some and gets me outta jams

Impressive for what they cost.

My experience with the old ryobi bits, & blue tools even with lithium batteries just wasn't very good. Maybe the HP will b better.

@stinkycheese804

5 күн бұрын

That's a shame, did you push them too hard? I've used them for decades and they work great for what they are.

My boss uses Ryobi and I run Milwaukee brushless and some fuel.Long story short he often borrows my tools because his doesn’t always get the job done nothing really wrong with the brand just ain’t a Milwaukee

Looks like entry level ones would be better. Or is it the pro ones will last longer. ?

@stinkycheese804

5 күн бұрын

The impact driver is a special case, a relatively low current demand tool. For the drill you are better off getting something more powerful than their lowest tier entry level product, and same for a few other more power hungry things like their recip saw, or angle grinder, leaf blower (40V instead of 18V), other saws, etc.

Put the big battery on the home owner drill this is not fair!

A lot of it may be jealousy over the range of tools Ryobi has.

Ryobi isn't the house brand of Home Depot lol might wanna see who the parent company is and what other tool brand they own

Seems like Ryobi gets a bad wrap from contractors or DIYers not knowing how to use the tools correctly. Someone said the brushed Ryobi oscillating tool was bad and not strong enough to cut what they needed to do on their chimney. They used the stock Ryobi blade that came with it, which are garbage IMO. If they would have used a decent blade it would have gotten the job done. They said "Oh the Milwaukee I bought did the job right away". Expecting to use the stock Ryobi blade on a job with thick wood or mortar is the wrong mentality to have. People who are smart buy Diablo Blades and use Milwaukee or DeWalt bits with Ryobi tools and they work well with these. If you're using the base tools get decent bits and decent blades or sanding pads and you won't suffer for mediocre performance as a DIYer. If you use the garbage Ryobi bits or blades that's your own fault.

If your going to do apples to apples run the same battery 4 vs 9 is not the same

@showersdpn

Жыл бұрын

The non HP tool wouldn't benefit from the HP battery. Though you are right that them both being 4Ah would be more fair. I didn't understand that either. Funny thing also is it beat the HP tool with the 9Ah battery! Lol! Too funny!

@gtaus1

Жыл бұрын

The biggest difference is in the HP v. non-HP battery. Although, I suspect that the HP tools can take even more advantage of the higher rated HP 9Ah compared to even the HP 4Ah battery. Check out kzread.info/dash/bejne/oo2g07t6c9SZoZs.html to see the difference between the Ryobi non-HP and HP batteries. Bottom line, Ryobi HP tools run much better and stronger with HP batteries.

Buy the best you can afford and if that’s ryobi. I’d get another job. Kidding kidding kidding I do love the stapler

No contractor I know uses them

Older American here. Nice production value & showmanship but your comparisons are bogus. The HP models are a newer technology & the batteries you used weren't the same. The newer HD models are mechanically & energy utilization wise far superior to the brushed models. That probably holds true for all the major cordless tool manufacturers, a duh! In my experience, I've had far fewer battery & charger issues with Ryobi batteries than I've had with the other major brands. You weren't comparing tools, you were comparing generational technologies. You might as well have compared the new HP models to the old first gen blue & yellow models with the old style NiCad batteries. I've been using Ryobi products since their 12 volt drills first hit the American market, dating all the way back to the old blue tools with NiCad batteries. Like all the other tool manufacturers, their product lines & internal components have evolved, most significantly the battery technologies. Do you really believe that Ryobi will continue to produce similar tools in both brushed & HD brushless models? It wouldn't be cost effective. In my opinion, all you showed is that the previous generation of Ryobi tool systems seem pretty close in their ability to perform a given function, one time, as compared to their latest generation. I think the real difference is about how many times you can perform a given action with a given tool or tool system.