Remember to HIT THAT LIKE BUTTON‼🔥 Do you Agree or Disagree with Ryan?

@brianmcwhite721

3 ай бұрын

There is no "I" in Team. Ask Diddy!

@bluefox887

3 ай бұрын

Agree!!!!

@MrCrossdatracks

3 ай бұрын

I guess LeBron handpicked Eric Snow and Matthew Dellavodova as well then right ??? 🤔

@eyewatch2see77

3 ай бұрын

@@brianmcwhite721 there's an *i* IN > D *i* DDY

@eyewatch2see77

3 ай бұрын

AGREE with Ryan 💯

Hakeem is CRIMINALLY Underrated!!!

@1deep803

3 ай бұрын

Indeed. That dream shake was a thing of beauty.

@htownblack9184

3 ай бұрын

Preach!!!!

@judahmourneth3211

3 ай бұрын

How, if you know ball you’d know he’s a top 10 player.

@htownblack9184

3 ай бұрын

@@judahmourneth3211 everyone doesn't have him in the top 10

@judahmourneth3211

3 ай бұрын

@@htownblack9184 that’s ridiculous

Best argument ive ever heard on this debate. This man did his homework

@kylonp7311

3 ай бұрын

Jordan never had a scoring big men to make Allstars grant made 1 Allstar stop tryna make it seem like grant was Tim Duncan or something 😂😂😂😂😂

@Traylormade_Chief

3 ай бұрын

He said all defensive and dopy

@jjmuse75

3 ай бұрын

Not a good argument at all. Hakeem only won after Jordan was retired. The year The Magic beat the Bulls was when Jordan came out of retirement and didn’t even play half the season. Phil Jackson is considered the greatest coach BECAUSE Of his success with the Bulls. He had never been a head coach before that. The system stuff is silly. Every team has a system. Real basketball fans know this was weak.

@jhad777

3 ай бұрын

Dumbest argument I’ve ever heard

@ZachBMorrow

3 ай бұрын

“🗣️WE DUUUNNNN WIT DA 80’s‼️” - Mike Peek 🤣🤣🤣

I’ve literally been making this argument for a decade glad to see it again

@airfrance4365

3 ай бұрын

It doesn't hold wait

@joshwoodburn5249

3 ай бұрын

@@airfrance4365”weight”

@RetroFlow23

3 ай бұрын

@@airfrance4365imagine not being able to differentiate “wait” and “weight” but wanting to chime in on this debate. This what i be talking bout

@rae6338

3 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 💀damn that was a violation you didn't have to do him like that ​@@RetroFlow23

@Scooperman29

3 ай бұрын

​@@RetroFlow23I'm dead💀😭

Ryan Davis is about to get a job on ESPN… dude does this FOREAL!!!!

@DEFIANTDIGITAL

3 ай бұрын

🔥🔥🔥🔥

@taeshawnwilson6853

3 ай бұрын

Stephen A is not ready for him

@eyewatch2see77

3 ай бұрын

Ryan Davis would be best situated with Lebron's media company > UNINTERRUPTED

@cyber6sapien

3 ай бұрын

Indeed. He would fit right in on the LeBron propaganda network.

@eyewatch2see77

3 ай бұрын

@@cyber6sapien 👎 meanwhile: *in 2014 Turner Sports *partnered with Lebron (not espn)

I respect the originality of this take. Ryan Davis is a very intelligent comedian. Hilarious too! He's worth the ticket price y'all. Go see his live show

I thought Ryan Davis was cooking in the first one, but he’s even more 🔥🔥🔥🔥this time!!! All facts!

@Poetryinnonmotion

3 ай бұрын

🙄

@eamorrison859

3 ай бұрын

They don't wanna hear the truth!

@cyber6sapien

3 ай бұрын

He's superb at lying by omission.

@kylonp7311

3 ай бұрын

@@eamorrison859 no truth

@eamorrison859

3 ай бұрын

@kylonp7311 I can't debate opinions. That's all it is. Ryan did nothing but the truth. As I said previously, you can look it up, I did. To many people fell into the David Stern marketing scheme.

ESPN should give you a shot

@DEFIANTDIGITAL

3 ай бұрын

🔥🔥🔥

@Demsky83

3 ай бұрын

He’s too good for ESPN

@33Cinxo

3 ай бұрын

On god🔥 he’ll cook Stephen A boots 😂

@RVNT9OE

3 ай бұрын

​@@Demsky83Nah, let the brotha make his $$$

@user-wx1br9jp6u

3 ай бұрын

I'm sorry. What? What shot? You mean from a weak argument. Against an even weaker lawyer. Any lawyer worth his salt would have pulled up all the lebron teammates that he needed to win only 4 rings. This dude has played with 3 top 75 players of all time on 1 team. And yet he could only win 2 out of the 4 years he was there. What does Lebron and Jordan have in common, neither won without a supporting cast. Yea, lebron made it further, but he didn't win. Kobe is the only player to ever lead a team to back to back championships without a top 75 all time teammate. That's a stronger argument than that trash I just heard.

“The best piece of a winning formula!” I’ve been tryna say this! This was funny but good lol

He forgot to mention the illegal defense rule.

@2gunzfilms425

3 ай бұрын

define Illegal defense....Ill wait....then oh yeah...Go look at Illegal Offense rules...cuz I already know what you're going to say and that will debunk it easily

@sideshowbobsaget8876

3 ай бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/eYOHk9OHhLrIZ5M.htmlsi=0NlTsSpI2oE73AHc LeBron dosent receive the defensive attention that Jordan did

@frankhadleyfdash810

3 ай бұрын

Facts People act like they don't know or remember you couldn't zone or pack the paint in the 90s It was a technical foul "Illegal defense" Jordan didn't play against zone defense LeBron facing zones Boxes Box and 1s 5 on 1 Tim Duncan said 10 years ago "We're guarding him with 5 guys" Period There's nothing wrong with his game We're guarding him w/ 5 guys There is a screen shot of lebron driving and all 5 Spurs players are in the paint surrounding him All fuckin 5 of them are around That crazy

@2gunzfilms425

3 ай бұрын

@@frankhadleyfdash810 lmao there’s mad pics of Jordan being guarded by 3-5 people just the same. Plenty of video of the paint being packed in the 90s just the same. Illegal defense just meant if the player you were guarding, was above the 3 point line, you couldn’t be below the ft line UNLESS you committed to the double team. BUT..that meant offenses would try to pack one side of the floor and leave an iso on the opposite side..but you couldn’t do that because you’d get called for Illegal OFFENSE

@sideshowbobsaget8876

3 ай бұрын

@frankhadleyfdash810 Jordan received more defensive attention than LeBron. There isn't a defensive scheme run today that Jordan hasn't already seen. Watch games

Best closing to the debate 👏🏾

@kylonp7311

3 ай бұрын

Dude no it wasn’t 😂😂😂😂

@1272JfC

3 ай бұрын

@@kylonp7311it really is

@kylonp7311

3 ай бұрын

@@1272JfC how by tryna act like Horace grant was some lottery pick he made grant seem like he was putting up Duncan or AD numbers dude grant wasn’t no Zion or nothing goofy 😂😂😂😂😂

@1272JfC

3 ай бұрын

@@kylonp7311 First thing of all watch your mouth don’t let this internet get you fk’d up all the disrespect you can keep that so what you perceive someone saying is not he said at all he never said Horace was a lottery pick regardless if you like Horace or not the man balled all that putting up Duncan numbers nobody asked him to put up numbers like Duncan but he had one job to do DID HE DO WHAT HE WAS SUPPOSED TO DO HE WAS PAID TO PLAY BALL NOT PUT UP NUMBERS LIKE DUNCAN NOT PLAY LIKE DUNCAN BUT PLAY LIKE HORACE

@1272JfC

3 ай бұрын

@@kylonp7311 Who wants to be like Zion getting pornstars pregnant

As a former d1 pg I concur with Ryan Davis’s assessment of the history of basketball and all its perplexed situations that go undisclosed.😂😂😂😂😂 this man is an epic win for comedy 😂😂😂😂😂 baby it’s spaghetti 🍝 😂😂😂😂😂❤❤❤❤

Maaaaan this so well put together

The question was does this end the debate and we're all like "it was a great argument, he's an intelligent comedian." 😂

@aldavis2924

2 ай бұрын

Naw that ended the debate. Jordan never was ish to me and i dont wear his shoes. He literally destroyed JORDAN. I HAD TO EDIT KUZ LEBRON NOT THE GOAT EITHER. HOW IS EITHER THE ONE THE G.OA.T LEBRON A CHOKE ARTIST. THEY BOTH GETTING COOKED AND ATE BY PLAYERS THAT CAME WAY BEFORE THEM. YOU CANT BE THE GREATEST IF A TON OF PPL DID IT BEFORE YOU.

Michelle Obama is in the back on the left😄

@dwrod24

3 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂 your attention to detail though

@aniussunbolt

3 ай бұрын

Man stop 😂

@dashawnsly6555

3 ай бұрын

Back there fine ainnit 😂

That mf was spitting lol

Hands down the best court cancel they need to run this back A.I vs Kyrie .. the Dallas Cowboys , Tyler Perry movies etc

@MyWillBeDone

3 ай бұрын

A.I. vs Kyrie would go crazy!! We need Ryan on the side of A.I. The jokes he'd have for Kyrie would be hilarious

@RevengeOfThaNerd

3 ай бұрын

Ohhhh yeah

How is being a system player a bad thing? Jordan could play in any system. Lebron had to be the system or they couldn't play so he needed to play on ball..

@coreythomas3633

3 ай бұрын

mj not a winner he a good player for a good system

@kirbyaugustine761

3 ай бұрын

@@coreythomas3633Your comment doesn’t make sense. MJ won 6 of 6 in the Finals and was Finals MVP in every one. That by the numbers defines winning.

@kylonp7311

3 ай бұрын

@@coreythomas3633 awww hush it 6-0

@coreythomas3633

3 ай бұрын

@@kylonp7311 MJ never won a championship or got pass the first round without Scottie phill Jackson and jerry krause... Lebron won a championship without kyrie, dwade, and AD,klove. Stop this nonsense bring up lebron teamates knowing they never won without him.. Lebron won without them and went to the finals without them.. Allah 2007 and 2018... 😅😅😅😅

@coreythomas3633

3 ай бұрын

@@kylonp7311 OVERRATED MJ had a team that won 55 games without him. Name a team that won 55 games without bron. 😂 NAME A TEAM LEBRON WAS ON THAT WON 72 GAMES. MJ had the BEST TEAM IN THE 90S. not lebron 😂 so this narrative that mj did it by himself is CLOWN shit.

LET HIM COOOOOOOOKKKKKKKK🔥🔥🔥🔥 boy was up there preaching !!!

That shyt was... awesome!!!

Rarely did the Chicago Bulls experience moments of heroic comebacks in the 90s without the presence of Michael Jordan. However, Game 6 of the 1992 NBA Finals stood as a unique exception, as "His Airness" found himself on the bench with the rest of the team leading the rally. This unusual turn of events occurred because assistant coach Tex Winter persuaded head coach Phil Jackson to bench MJ, as Scottie Pippen revealed in his book 'Unguarded.' Winter was tired of MJ's selfishness Although the Bulls led the series 3-2, their performance in the first three quarters of Game 6 didn't reflect their dominance. After falling behind by 15 points to begin the fourth quarter, Portland forcing a Game 7 seemed like a likely scenario. However, that's when Bulls' assistant coach Winter took matters into his own hands and approached the 'Zen Master' to bench Jordan, who was trying to orchestrate the comeback by himself. Michael, meanwhile, was trying to do too much," Pippen wrote. "And it was backfiring. 'You have to get him out of there,' Tex Winter, one of our assistant coaches, pleaded to Phil, 'He's holding the ball too long, destroying the action.'" With Mike on the bench, the Bulls started the fourth quarter with a 14-2 run. He rejoined the action when his team trailed 81-78, eventually clinching a 97-93 victory after the Bulls outscored the Portland Trail Blazers 33-14 in the last 12 minutes. Where was this in The Last Dance? Despite the 14-time All-Star scoring a game-high 33 points and Pippen contributing 26, 'The Last Dance' only delved into the details of Game 5 of the series. On the other hand, the documentary barely covered the crucial moments of Game 6. Pippen, who pointed out that Jordan had editorial control over the project, said the project should've included more clips from that game. However, the Hall of Famers understands why that wasn't the case. "It wouldn't have enhanced Michael's legacy to show his 'supporting cast' being the difference in a game of such magnitude," Pippen added. "The Bulls would likely have lost that game if Phil had put Michael back in earlier in the fourth quarter. Tex was right." Pippen, along with other former MJ teammates, felt slighted that the documentary focused solely on Jordan and his most iconic moments during their all-time great eight-year run. That's why the Hall of Famer, together with Horace Grant and Luc Longley decided to share their version of events and give fans a different perspective on the Bulls dynasty.

@mg0588

3 ай бұрын

Brother breathe it’s not that serious.

@Traylormade_Chief

3 ай бұрын

​@@mg0588he's just giving facts that weren't in The Last Dance.

@rackball5858

3 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@Traylormade_ChiefNot really. Everyone knows that Jordan routinely was on the bench at the beginning of 4th quarters for 3-4 minutes. He came back into the game with just about 8 minutes left, with the Bulls still down, and scored the majority of Bulls points the rest the way. It’s not like he scored 8 points ….he scored 33.

@eyewatch2see77

3 ай бұрын

@@mg0588 👎 if it's not that serious then why cant YOU breathe 😂🤣

@eyewatch2see77

3 ай бұрын

*@CreativeBigL* 👍

Love from Cleveland

That was very well spoken. 💯💪🏾😎

So much truth to dis

Good argument but 2 things…. 1. How is a guy a system player when his stats were better BEFORE said system? 2. The Hakeem mention. So you just gonna casually leave out the fact that Hakeem was playing with pre-injury Ralph Sampson when he first got to the league? Ok….

@kirbyaugustine761

3 ай бұрын

… and was playing with Houston during those Bulls championship runs as well.

@rons2285

3 ай бұрын

His stats were better but they didn’t equate to wins once a system was implemented and specialists were put on to the team the only major thing mj had to do was score seeing that he was the scoring specialist of the team ofc he could gain still and blocks too because there weren’t many scoring guards in the league and he definitely didn’t match up against any in the playoffs so he could roam and get help defensive steals and blocks

@Realest1ne

3 ай бұрын

@@rons2285 That’s nice but like I said, how was he a “system” player when he didn’t need a system to be a great player?

@raybohlander5502

3 ай бұрын

He won the championships because of his teammates and coach being great... he wouldnt have chips without scottie and phil... we'd remember him like wilt without them​@Realest1ne

@Realest1ne

3 ай бұрын

@@raybohlander5502 Who in the hell hasn’t won NBA championships without teammates and an at least competent coach?? 😂 All 4 of LeBron’s rings came from that exact situation. Hell, that’s the entire reason he left Cleveland the first time. Y’all just be talking.

Took Bron 3 Super reams for 3 rings....

@rons2285

3 ай бұрын

He led most statical categories so it wasn’t a super team but it was a competitive team

@infinitrixtv5847

3 ай бұрын

Where are the superteams? You call his teammates who are fast approaching the last of their primes? Teammates who have been prone to injuries. The 2018 alone proves that he was capable of carrying trash teams to the NBA finals.

@henrycruz5816

3 ай бұрын

​@infinitrixtv5847 probably talking about bum as AD lol keep in mind AD needed King James. Kylie too and Ciris Bosh lol

@jpquernel6479

3 ай бұрын

Jordan had a super team for each one of his 6 rings... The bulls (team) went to every single finals as FAVOURITES.. compared to the teams they played in the finals, they "always" had the better scorer (Mj), better all around player(Pippen), better rebounder (Grant or Rodman), better 3;PT shooter (Paxton or Kerr).. bulls were just the "better team", "(not only" had the better scorer), everytime.. now you get it..😁😁😁

@runitback2back

3 ай бұрын

@@jpquernel6479 CAP!!! see your able to have roll players when you are a dominant scorer like Jordan. Bron never has enough

Im lost😂

Great take bro!😮

Wow. Thats one heck of an argument.

Do you know how good your spaghetti has to be if you keep using the same recipe and STILL nobody can beat you in a cooking contest? 😂

@rickeyjones729

3 ай бұрын

Lol don't forget it's only 6 years out of a cooking competition that using the same recipe won out of 70+ years and your recipe wasn't the only won that has won 6 competition. Lol

@EyeSaidNo

3 ай бұрын

Take one important ingredient out tho that spaghetti still gonna be good? lol

@trevorwhite3926

3 ай бұрын

@@EyeSaidNo good but not great lol

@santosonly7

3 ай бұрын

But if you can't make not even 1 good plate of spaghetti without 1 assistant cook and you fail 100% of the time without him, is your spaghetti success really because of you or EQUALLY because of him? This is Jordan's story.

@trevorwhite3926

3 ай бұрын

@santosonly7 if it ain't broke don't fix it lol

Who made the key strip on Karl Malone in the 98 Finals? Not Rodman, not Pippen, MJ!!! Who then drove down the court and made the game winning shot? Not Rodman, not Pippen, MJ.

@rons2285

3 ай бұрын

He was able to make that strip because Rodman and pippen were good on ball defenders there weren’t many scoring guards mj had to face hence mj fans always saying mj was a little guy that dominated a big man’s league so guess what that means it means mj could sag off his guy who wasn’t a threat to score and get steals and blocks from help defense

@phillipschuman4307

3 ай бұрын

Simple play that Phil Jackson told MJ to do before it happened. That was Karl Malone's tendency, which they knew from scouting. And of course, MJ would get the shot (not them), unless it was Paxson or Kerr in other situations.

@artiekusumawidya2545

3 ай бұрын

I forgot who strip on Malone but i do know a 12yo girl got stripped by Malone

@yusufbey1587

2 ай бұрын

That was the best team Jordan played dirks Mavs would have beaten them in 6 the 73 win warriors would have swept that team with ease 😂

We’re really gonna act like LeBron doesn’t hand pick his teammates & coaches? ‘If I can only win with all the right pieces?’ Are you joking? Didn’t LeBron just come out & say that the 2010 Heat didn’t have enough pieces? Which is a ridiculous thing to say when LeBron played the way he did. This argument is really 🚮

@pevelyn8345

3 ай бұрын

Fax 😂

@Poetryinnonmotion

3 ай бұрын

Dumpster diving

@bigbrotim4046

3 ай бұрын

Was looking for this comment thank you

@HeroicJei

3 ай бұрын

Yeah I'm sure Lebron picked all those dudes that washed out the league as soon as he left the team.

@Poetryinnonmotion

3 ай бұрын

@@HeroicJei U might need to take something so u can form coherent sentences my dude

We definitely need a part 3 by time he retires

@DEFIANTDIGITAL

3 ай бұрын

👀

Love this it's true and hilarious 😂😂😂

He dropped bars on this... the most articulate debate I've heard on this topic and it didn't come from a sports show 😱

We need to see more of Ryan on debates , killed that Jawn

I guess spaghetti is better than facts

@DEFIANTDIGITAL

3 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣

@eyewatch2see77

3 ай бұрын

speghetti is a RECIPE an award WINNING recipe (which would lose without the right ingredients) *FACTS dont have to triumph in order to remain a FACT* (facts will always be better)

@kylonp7311

3 ай бұрын

Maybe cause he didn’t have no facts goofy

This argument wouldn’t even made it in barbershop talk😂😂😂

@menooga

3 ай бұрын

Because in the Barbershop talk, all niggas gone do is talk over him the entire time without letting him get his point across.

baby its spaghetti😂😂😂

Great presentation

The fact he still lost this case is baffling to me. Davis seems to be the ONLY one who comes stacked with facts

@jhad777

3 ай бұрын

Because his key points were stupid

@TripleJJJay

3 ай бұрын

Objectively he won the debate. And it's not close. It's not even about even if you have MJ or Bron as the GOAT. Just going off the cases Ryan killed it. ​@@jhad777

@lilmike1237

3 ай бұрын

@@jhad777 explain…. Cause Jordan was a fucking system player

@kylonp7311

3 ай бұрын

@@TripleJJJay no he didn’t he tried to make grant seem like he was Tim Duncan stop it 😂😂😂😂

@kylonp7311

3 ай бұрын

@@lilmike1237 dude he won with different pieces wtf is Duncan a system player is Steph a system player was Kobe a system player I mean I’m confused

Wow. That was a good analysis. Hope more people will come to accept the greatness of Lebron.

@kylonp7311

3 ай бұрын

That’s was a horrible analysis

@ajckstories

3 ай бұрын

Greatness of flopping

@Double33

3 ай бұрын

That's actually part of the problem saying that Jordan is the Greatest doesn't mean LeBron isn't also Great just not better than Jordan and the fact that ppl debate that without acknowledging it's just opinion is the real mind boggling part...the real winner is the NBA bcuz this keeps the game as hot topic constantly

@jermaineartis4323

3 ай бұрын

Nope. Jordan still has it. Lebron is a great PED user though.

@Darthvador44

3 ай бұрын

Just Stop…you crazy if you eating this up.

How did he do that? Ryan Davis is a great at explaining a point bro. He can probably be a lawyer forreal

Hilarious! 😂

Nothin but facts .. but they just gone bring up them old ass rings . Thats they only argument 😂

@Demsky83

3 ай бұрын

Fam, he had 6, check his stats. LBJ went to two different super teams to win less rings. Yall gotta give it up. He’s #3 behind MJ and Kobe

@RPINCo

3 ай бұрын

@@Demsky83Kobe vs Bron. Kobe won 6 out of 16. Kobe can’t be over Bron. Ever. Lakers brought in Bron because Lakers were garbage for several years and Kobe packed it up.

@Newportnews98

3 ай бұрын

@@RPINCowhat???? Kobe was literally about the league when lebron came to the lakers and lebron hasn’t been successful as a laker when AD is out

@DatFeature

3 ай бұрын

MJ won two threepeats in the same 10 year span you can look at the top 5,10,15,20 and you’ll never find a player who is option #1 that even has a single three peat

@wade2xx552

3 ай бұрын

& mvps,dpoy,scoring titles.. it took Lbj 18yrs to pass Jordan in scoring while Jordan retired twice

Dude got outplayed by jason terry in the finals lmao.

@BalloonFight

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, and 4 other players as well. After he assembled a super team with 3 franchise leading caliber players, after guaranteeing 7 or 8 rings for Miami... and then he's the 5th best player throughout the entire finals. Imagine if Jordan was even the 2nd best player... once.. in a series. The "Goat debate" never started for Lebron after 2011

@joechucks1555

2 ай бұрын

The only thing anyone can bring up about LBJ lame

@BalloonFight

2 ай бұрын

@@joechucks1555 Nah, it's not just that one thing, but that thing is a HUGE negative. Never being able to create a dynasty, while playing with the MOST all stars of all time. Accomplishing a LOT less in a much longer career in accolades and championships. Having only 6 defensive teams in 20 years, especially for a guy his size and with his athleticism. Being an extremely poor shot outside of 3 foot range at 37% in the regular season for his career, 36% in the playoffs, and 32% in the finals. Never being able to dominate with any one team of his. Without the greatest NBA finals miracle shot in history from Ray Allen.. off of an offensive rebound from Chris Bosh from a Lebron brick, he wouldn't even have ever won 2 chips in a row lol

@bryrashad

Ай бұрын

“Outplaying” and “outscoring” are 2 separate things. Jason Terry finished with more points, but in no way shape or form did he outplay somebody that had him beat in every other major statistical category. Stop these nonsense narratives.

@BalloonFight

Ай бұрын

@@bryrashad He outscored Lebron, coming off of the BENCH lol. He played something like 50 less minutes than Lebron in the series, who was the best player in the world at the time, and scored more in total than him. Magic Johnson has a famous quote of saying "Can Lebron stop Jason Terry?" The answer was no, he couldn't in that series. A starter getting more rebounds and assists shouldn't be a surprise, compared to a bench player

Lmao. What is this a scene from Jack Reacher? He reachin.

This was great to watch. pity it stopped ...

When Bulls lose to Magic MJ came back in baseball shape and more than half the season was gone. MJ didn’t win the championship without Pippen but LeFlop didn’t win without having two to three superstars on his team. Who needed more superstars to win a championship?

@DeshawnHamer-ut3np

3 ай бұрын

Yeah when lebron was in Cleveland he had no other all star then mo Williams and Dan Gilbert definitely wasn't no Jerry Krause your narrative is basic do better 😂

@DurellPowell

3 ай бұрын

Scotty and Dennis where both superstars

@sideshowbobsaget8876

3 ай бұрын

​@@DurellPowellRodman is a role player. Was never a star let alone a superstar

@DurellPowell

3 ай бұрын

@@sideshowbobsaget8876 he led the league in rebounds 6 times and was a 2 time dpoy and 6 time all defensive team selection, name one role player with those accolades

@sideshowbobsaget8876

3 ай бұрын

@@DurellPowell Mark Eaton, M.Cooper, Draymond, B.Wallace etc. None of these guys are franchise players capable of leading a team. Rodman was a star role player.

Ryan Davis has never lost an argument in his life.

😂this dide is the goatt

That was solid

His argument is without context...Orlando beat the Bulls and Jordan played 17 regular season games that year, that was his comeback/45 season and if you watched that series, Mike wasn't the same Mike without a full NBA season. What did they do to the Orlando Magic in '96? Also, Dennis Rodman was 34 years old when he came to the Bulls in '96 and had just got absolutely cooked by Hakeem in '95, Hakeem made him & David Robinson look like they weren't even on the court, so there was no sure thing that he would be the Dennis Rodman in hindsight that he was. Also, Steve Kerr averaged less than TWO 3 point shots per game in his career, Paxson....averaged 1 3 point shot per game. It's not hard to have a high percentage if you only take the shot a few times. LOL, this sounds really good without any type of context. This is all hindsight being 20/20.

@herbertpindar3565

3 ай бұрын

@goatcasthoops Exactly. He's ignoring the fact that they're playing during the age of centers and power forwards. Ewing, Olajuwon, McHale, Parish, Robinson, Shaq, Smits, Malone, Barkley, Mourning, LJ, CWebb, I could keep going on. Needless to say, nobody even wins championships without defense and it will ALWAYS be true that you need to defend well close to the rim. Rebounding is a given also. There aren't too many poor rebounding teams winning 4 rounds of playoff basketball. Here's a statistic for you: Jordan played in 6 of the top 10 most watched NBA games of all time, including 4 of the top 5. And this is with, Dennis Rodman, as the second biggest draw. The global population in 1999 was ~6 billion. Contrast that to todays superstar-fueled NBA Finals of LeBron, Curry, Kyrie, Klay, etc and they still can't draw as many eyeballs even though there are over 1.5 billion more people in the world. And I know some would argue that there are more entertainment offerings now than then but there is little debate that MJ was THE draw. You can have pundits say all they want about who is the greatest, but the evidence from the masses is abundantly clear. People historically stop what they're doing and tune in to greatness (Ali, Woods, Brady, etc) and that's why no one will bring this particular stat up. The ratings only pile on. They demonstrate that it wasn't as though someone else was greater in basketball, but that to the masses, nothing else was better in television period.

@herbertpindar3565

3 ай бұрын

He also leaves out the fact that although MJ had Paxson and Kerr (let's not forget Craig Hodges and BJ Armstrong) LeBron had Ray Allen, Mike Miller, etc. But what is more important is that when you look into these numbers, you see that Hodges averaged 2 3-point attempts per game for his career. Paxson averaged 1 attempt. Kerr? 1.8, though it did tick higher during his time with the Bulls to a high of 2.9 attempts. He doesn't provide context as some would think that the league was jacking up threes at the rate then as now. It's not even close. This is how rare the 3-ball was in the Jordan years: Jordan made more 3's in the 92 NBA Finals than the entire Trailblazer team, 12-10. Each team shot fewer than 11 per game. So the 3point percentage argument loses much of its strength when you realize that nobody was shooting many back then.

@RetroFlow23

3 ай бұрын

I just read alot of excuses honestly between both of yall

@MrAllAnime

3 ай бұрын

@@RetroFlow23they’d never use this much context of this was about lebron lol they’d say all of this is excuses

@herbertpindar3565

3 ай бұрын

It's ok if you feel that way. But you've never even heard my arguments in favor of LeBron. And I'm afraid you're confusing excuses with reasons. Perhaps you could provide a counterargument to the ones provided. If not, while the arguments above may not sway you, they still stand as nuanced reasons to #1 push back against some of the statements the gentleman on the video provided and to #2 provide new arguments that, to this point, no one has argued against. You have provided only straw man arguments. Why not have a reasoned out discussion?

Exactly

@jaleelbraithwaite201

3 ай бұрын

Exactly west 😭

@jaleelbraithwaite201

3 ай бұрын

Defense, rebounding these are attributes that have eluded lebron for his entire career all star help 🤣 isn’t this the man that p pop promised 8 chips to Miami but got 2 and the second won was extremely lucky no way

nailed it bro..

Ryan Davis thank you for the Big Ben 2004 Pistons shout out.

Other elite rebounders: Kevin Love. Dwight Howard. Anthony Davis.

@santosonly7

3 ай бұрын

But all time, how do these rank against Rodman and Grant? I know AD still has some runway, maybe. But how do they rank comparatively?

@onyx9857

3 ай бұрын

@@santosonly7 Total all time rebounds: Dwight Howard (10th), Rodman (23rd), H. Grant (49th), K. Love (51st), A. Davis (80th).

@yusufbey1587

2 ай бұрын

@@onyx9857wb offensive rebounds tho grant and Rodman were elite offensive rebounders

@onyx9857

2 ай бұрын

@@yusufbey1587 Rodman 4th all time. Howard 7th all time. Grant 16th all time. Love 76th. Davis 116th.

@yusufbey1587

2 ай бұрын

@@onyx9857 my point exactly lol

why is lebron the goat? presents actual logical and statistical facts why is jordan the goat? man MJ was great man, you werent there to see it 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

@L.I.2RVA

3 ай бұрын

Right!!!😂😂😂

@Demsky83

3 ай бұрын

Bron bot send spam in the chat

@aureharrow3288

3 ай бұрын

​@Demsky83 lemme guess.... if u defend air Jordan, he promised to give u a pair of Jordan's didn't he?

@turbie5510

3 ай бұрын

what statistical facts? the 6 nba finals losses? the 2 bronze medals?

@crowing3886

3 ай бұрын

​@@turbie5510the sweeps on every teams...RECENT sweep too 😂 They stay delusional

DAAAAAAMN! Mic drop.....

Damn, that was good

So Why Lebron 4 and 10 in the championships? If he’s better? He’s played with SUPER STARS! Him being better means he can Win Championships with lesser, Right. And LBJ is Bigger and Stronger.

@mikemcclure3376

3 ай бұрын

A lot of those early years he took bums to the finals multiple times that wasn’t even in the league the following year

@judahmourneth3211

3 ай бұрын

@@mikemcclure3376he went to the finals once his first 7 years and played like shit.

@JoJo-sd6ks

3 ай бұрын

Yall really expected Lebron to beat 2/3 of the best shooters EVER on 1 team? #1 thing to winning is Team Chemistry. The fact he took a different team to the Finals every year when most NBA players will never get to a Finals, let alone win, says alot

@coreythomas3633

3 ай бұрын

@@judahmourneth3211 he took bums to the finals sir

@judahmourneth3211

3 ай бұрын

@@coreythomas3633 took bums to the finals while playing bums to get there, just to get swept by a good team and played like shit in the process.

Jordan has more offensive rebounds than LeBron in less games LMAO

@jahmiladjodha5100

3 ай бұрын

Who cares thats not the point lmaooo 😂😂😂😂

@Noggindoing

3 ай бұрын

LeBron is the one with the ball scoring and generating opportunities for his teammates. He’s not under the rim looking for boards. He already has the ball.

@reggiefoote2412

3 ай бұрын

Just mean MJ missed more😂

@sideshowbobsaget8876

3 ай бұрын

The point is that Jordan was a better off ball player and rebounder. Jordan would get so many put backs off of hustling and boxing out. Also, even if he didn't get the rebound, he created the opportunity for his teammates to get the rebound. Jordan played, winning basketball. Something like 70% of LeBron rebounds are uncontested. People see thru how LeBron accumulated his stats.

@yusufbey1587

2 ай бұрын

Bruh bron has played point-forward most of his career MJ played off the ball most of his career this is basic math 😂

This was good.

These guys need to be in ESPN 😅

Ryan ain't said NOTHING that highlights LeBron SLIGHTLY being better 😂 LeBron isn't even close...

@frankyg1334

3 ай бұрын

+1

@rons2285

3 ай бұрын

Everything he said suggests he’s better

@kylonp7311

3 ай бұрын

@@rons2285 🧢

The man lost 6 finals appearances LMAO

@pevelyn8345

3 ай бұрын

I'm so lost on how this is even a discussion anyone😂

@bigbrotim4046

3 ай бұрын

Fax

@SteppaBTN

3 ай бұрын

Mj only made 6 appearances how in tf is that dominance fam 😂😂

@turbie5510

3 ай бұрын

​@@SteppaBTNhe won it all lebron lost 6. you aint dominating if you aint winnin. there is no consolation trophies to 2nd placers.😊

@Traylormade_Chief

3 ай бұрын

U didn't listen to the context At all

🎤. Enough said

Never ever have I heard this dynamic of the GOAT discussion. Ryan is blossoming into a Carlin Chappelle, Rock,and Burr kinda comedian. The humor that’s accompanied with thoughtful intellect

I can’t wait for someone to tell me that Jordan won because of Horace grant being 18th all time in offensive rebounding lol 😂

@SteppaBTN

3 ай бұрын

Grant was also a hell of a defender let’s not pretend here 😂

@kirbyaugustine761

3 ай бұрын

@@SteppaBTNYeah but to argue that MJ needed Horace more than the other way around was ludicrous. Horace averaged 11 and 8 his entire career.

@SteppaBTN

3 ай бұрын

@@kirbyaugustine761 lol ok

@jaleelbraithwaite201

3 ай бұрын

@@SteppaBTNthat’s your response🤦🏾‍♂️ the arrogance of lebron saying he ain’t need Miami to win chips when he had Chris Bosh as his third best player is wild work

@jaleelbraithwaite201

3 ай бұрын

You lebron fans gotta be obtuse, it’s not about the parts of the system that matter so much it’s being able to get to the end of games with an opportunity to win, lbj has too many occasions where he was at the end of games and came up short how can that guy be the best ever 🤔 no amount of all stars are gonna change that fact… when MJ got to the end of games he was EXPECTED to close the deal with lbj it’s a toss up and when he comes up short more often than not the excuses come pouring in 😂

Thank you!!! I've been saying this for years!!!!

@rysrys2977

2 ай бұрын

Mj had pippen, grant and rodman. But lebron had dwade, cbosh, kyrie and klove and now has AD. As great as pippen, grant and rodman in their game none of them was the talented scorers as those guys. Wade finals mvp and 1 time scoring champ average 22pts in his career. Cbosh 20/game, kyrie 23pts/game, klove 16 pts 10 reb and AD 24pts and 10 reb. Plus he also had ray allen, dwight howard, rajon rondo, russel westbrooke, carmelo anthony. All past their prime but still a hall of fame who still give significant contributions. So i dont get why use " jordan didnt win without pippen" argument against him while lebron not only cant win without a stack superteam around him. But he also underachieve going 4 wins - 6 loss in the finals. Jordan best teamates was pippen had a career 16pts/game. a great defensive and all around player but not a great scorer.

@Mr.Chris_Tee2015

2 ай бұрын

@rysrys2977 you lost me, and contradicted yourself when you had a moment of enlightenment. You yourself said all those players were past their prime. He dragged the Heat teams to the finals with DWade and Bosh constantly out of the lineup. He dragged the cavs to the finals with Big Z and pretty much nobody else on his team. When he went back to the finals with the cavs he lost Love and Kyrie. Then when they overcame and beat Golden state with a full squad they added Kevin Durant. Jordan never had to deal with any of that. His teammates were always there for him and didn't let him down and they didn't stack a team so much that everyone knew regular season was a formality. Oh sorry the migraine game Scottie didn't play well in did Mike pull it out....? No they lost. Scottieand those Bulls were the real deal MJ was just the best player on a great team

@rysrys2977

2 ай бұрын

@@Mr.Chris_Tee2015 read again. Past their prime i was referring to ray allen dhoward, wrestbrook, melo and rondo not their franchise player level self but they still give significant contribution. But lbj had prime dwade, cbosh, kyrie, klove and AD. 2011 to 2014 lebron didnt drag wade and bosh they still playing at least all star level. Btw 2011 happened no excuse lebron choked. Yes lebron reach finals with Big Z but check who he got to beat in the estern conference? The detroit piston he beat was without ben wallace and cris brown. Ok i him give a pass 2015 klove nd kyrie injured also 2018 no kyrie. But 2016 and 2017 no excuse. Lebron had all the talent he needs to not go 4 -6 in the finals. Lebron simply cant win without stack superteam. Not only he cant win stack teams he always underachieve. Migraine game? Yes mj loss. But you forgot 1998 finals game 6. Pippen was limited with injured back and mj carried his team to a 6th rings scoring 45. People like you always say that mj finals competition was weak compare to Lebron. But i counter thats because mj best competition was on the east. Compare to the east conf that mj had to go through lebrons road to finals was a joke. Mj had to deal with markprice larry nance cavs, ewing knicks, reggies indiana, badboys pistons, lonzo heat, mutombo hawks and shaqs orlando. Also this is why mj is goat and not lbj. Lebron advantage is his physical attributes but mj had better elite basketball skills. Take away lebron size speed and strengh and anything he does can be done by average nba players coz his skills is mediocre. While mj take away his athleticism he still was elite shooter, low post players and still elite basketball skills.

@rysrys2977

2 ай бұрын

@@Mr.Chris_Tee2015 r Past their prime i was referring to ray allen dhoward, wrestbrook, melo and rondo not their franchise player level self but they still give significant contribution. But lbj had prime dwade, cbosh, kyrie and klove and still got AD. 2011 to 2014 lebron didnt drag wade and bosh they still playing at least all star level. Btw 2011 happened no excuse lebron choked. 2007 he reach finals w/big z sure but eastern conference he went tru was a joke. Detroit piston was without ben wallace and cris brown. Bottom line not only lebron cant win without stack superteam but he always underachieved. You always hear every year "lebron needed more help". Even when he wins championship he always pressure his team to trade for quality players the following year Mj carried the bulls to win 6th ring in game 6 1998 finals. Pippen had an injured back. Lebron fans like you always say lebron finals competition is tougher than mjs. My counter is because mjs real.competition was on the eastern conference. Unlike lebron eastern conference which was a joke.

Ryan is hilarious 😂😂😂😂

This man can literally end the goat debate. I mean I think he might be the pioneer of goat debate back in the dat.

Even the "best argument" can't beat facts. 😂

@user-on3fr4hk9q

3 ай бұрын

What’s the facts

@ahmadceasar5484

3 ай бұрын

He literally presented better facts tho , like he said mfs just don't like to see Jordan lose 🤷🏿‍♂️

@RJ-ph5zg

3 ай бұрын

@@ahmadceasar5484exactly, but like Ryan said don’t argue with these MFs.

@darkmanx126

3 ай бұрын

He was talking straight facts, not opinions lol. Said exactly what happened in Jordan’s career

@King-ct3bd

3 ай бұрын

Spaghetti 😂

Im trying to understand the argument. Because he keeps talking about michael jordan had no defense. He was defensive player of the year in 87 and in 88. And 9 All First team defense Selection. 1988 through 93. And 1996 through 1998. So I don't follow..lol

@judahmourneth3211

3 ай бұрын

lol, I’m not understanding his argument too.

@dreamkloud8945

3 ай бұрын

Part of that is popularity just like MVP awards my guy ESPN cast said that but we’re not saying he’s not a good defender. Jordan is like KD on the warriors team that’s who the bulls were Give LEBRON those teams and everyone stay healthy how many rings you think he would win I know some people going to say what about the Miami heat well wade and Bosh got hurt easily wade was AD before AD

@turbie5510

3 ай бұрын

​@@dreamkloud8945popularity for 9 times? yeah right. lebron had wade and bosh and miami still losy and choked in 2011. wtf are you sayin? lebron has handpicked superstars still lost 6 nba finals and won 2 bronzes. who is consistently losing here?

@rackball5858

3 ай бұрын

@@dreamkloud8945What you just said gets thrown out the window just by mentioning the 11 Heat when Wade & Bosh outplayed Lebron. Just in that run, Lebron’s teammates accounted for nearly 75 points of the team. Jordan’s teammates accounted for 55 of the teams points. And you’re also forgetting how rugged the East was in that era. Would Lebron mentally be able to adapt to that? Yes, he’s big & strong but he barely gets touched nowadays & goes down to the ground as if Mike Tyson knocked him out.

@odigomez1787

3 ай бұрын

He didn’t say jordan can’t play defense. His argument is, jordan was only asked to score while his teammates were asked to rebound, assist and play defense. Jordan always had multiple All nba defensive players next him. Lebron has to play defense, rebound, score, assist. Lebron lead his team in all these categories in their finals wins.

Get the Filet Mignon Outta Here!!

Wow. Hard to argue that.

Pip Pip hooray Scottie Pippin was and is still an all-time great 👍🏿.

@Poetryinnonmotion

3 ай бұрын

Dude could barely hit a jump shot

@Andrew-1971

3 ай бұрын

@@Poetryinnonmotion yet he was the main ingredient to Jordan's success FOH guy.

@Poetryinnonmotion

3 ай бұрын

@Andrew-1971 BS, prove it. I love dudes like u. You bout to start making stuff up and exaggerating what u don't know about and trying to force it down folks throat

@Andrew-1971

3 ай бұрын

@Poetryinnonmotion I can't argue the point in depth because I'm not a true to heart sports fan. After the bulls, I don't know much about his legacy after that. But when he was a Bull, you're jiving yourself if you're gonna say he wasn't that guy.

@Poetryinnonmotion

3 ай бұрын

@@Andrew-1971 I didn't say he wasn't a great player. He was probably one of the best complimentary players. But that's it. He was not a number one guy or someone u can build a franchise around

I’m sorry. That disappearing act vs Dallas in the Finals is unforgivable. LeBron has way too many Finals losses to be in front of Jordan

@kenbeluso5485

3 ай бұрын

the same argument over and over for the Jordan cry babies lol

@rustyie_winnin3279

3 ай бұрын

@@kenbeluso5485no other argument to make. He shrunk, time don’t make that go away. Man went from 26/27 to 17. 8 in an entire game. So yea we will mention that my guy

@slapjones1959

3 ай бұрын

So what about the other finals? What were his stats? You acted like LeBron went to one final

@chizchism84

3 ай бұрын

@@rustyie_winnin3279yes but Ryan literally just proved Jordan couldn’t win without ELITE players and those players made it further than him when they weren’t on the team, not to mention him pointing out Hakeem was a beast from day one while Jordan NEEDED the right pieces to be great……. yea put that in yer pipe n smoke it 😂

@slapjones1959

3 ай бұрын

@rustyie_winnin3279 dude, you act like LeBron went to one final and lost and never went back. The man got four chips and 4 finals MVP SMH!

For years I've heard the arguments on who's the best between LeBron and Jordan and by far this is hands down the best debate ever. He nailed key points that can't be dismissed, this man deserves to be on a sports network.

Superb argument 👌🏿

This is great 😂😂😂😂 let’s see how many casuals gone take this over board

@ruffonstuff3489

3 ай бұрын

Casual is a trendy term that is new within ten years. How is anyone to take anyone that is fair weather to use trendy language as normal. Trends are or cliche and flakey. Get real dude. Go along to get along gets you average at best. In order for real accomplishments one has to drop the low brow bs to expand. Otherwise they stay stagnant in mediocrity. It is all games until you call people demeaning names that you are to afraid fit you more. Flakey as ashey skin

Majority of arguments for Michael Jordan being the best are simply stating Jordan's accomplishments in the NBA. Majority of arguments for Lebron James being the best are trying to nitpick and tear down Jordan and making excuses why Lebron's accomplishments dont measure up. That let's you know who's really the best. Lebron arguments are so convoluted lol. Horace Grant was the 18th all time offensive rebounder 😆

@Traylormade_Chief

3 ай бұрын

18th is laughable? U trippin. That's a lot of guys behind him.

@odigomez1787

3 ай бұрын

Grant was also multiple time all defensive player while playing with mj, just like pippen.

@eyewatch2see77

3 ай бұрын

👑LEBRON 🐐

@rons2285

3 ай бұрын

That’s 18th all time offensive rebounds offensive rebounds equals second chance points which isn’t a easy thing to come by and to have a guy that is 18th all time to one of the games best scorers that my friend is system basketball

@kylonp7311

3 ай бұрын

@@odigomez1787 grant never made 1 1st team all defensive or was never top 10 in blocks stop it 😂😂😂😂😂

All facts and yeah nice shoes 😂😂😂😂

Bill Russel has gotta be looking down laffin at this whole thing!!!!

Does he have some points yes but it is a team sport but we are arguing best player and Mike individual accolades are better than Lebron's period

@jasoncooley1618

3 ай бұрын

Well don’t count the rings then

@Double33

3 ай бұрын

@@jasoncooley1618 you gotta count the rings for both bcuz neither one is the only one with teammates who don't have multiple rings too

Jordan IS the "elite defender"... as evidenced by the 9 All-Defensive First Team honors that he has over LeBron's 5 and DPOY that LeBron doesn't have. 😂☠️

@youtubeisassho8834

3 ай бұрын

Yep, and from the guard position, which is rare.

@LeslieBarber-hz1se

3 ай бұрын

Did Jordan actually earn all defensive all time because who did he actually defend MJ was a shooting guard for the most part

@jareese_ie

3 ай бұрын

It’s easy to get all defensive first teams and other awards when the other guards at your position pose no threat did Jordan guard the other teams best offensive player or was that Pipen y’all need to stop 😂

@nessdagoat

3 ай бұрын

@@jareese_ie the dumbest point ever to try to win an argument. It lacks so much nuance that it’s not even worth a retort other than just to tell you this is an idiotic point of view 😂

@Cornell_Alvarez99

3 ай бұрын

Bro stop it Michael Jordan was not locking up niggas like that G it was Scottie Pippen 💀

He def killed that analysis.

Real shit

Lebron needed Kyrie to close out the warriors he needed Ray Allen in Miami and AD carried them in the bubble Lebron play for stats

@kirbyaugustine761

3 ай бұрын

Lebron is not a closer which is why he’s not clutch in the final minutes of a game. This is why he team stacks.

@creedking7665

3 ай бұрын

Lebron didn't need them to get the finals before he met those guys,kyrie&ad,can we say the same for Jordan no that was the point made in this video you heard what this man said lebron was dragging people to the finals who has Jordan carried to the finals like the man said in this video without scotty,phil,kerr,Paxton,rodman,or grant Jordan is a first round exit and yet lebron has been to the finals without Kylie or ad now can we the same about kyrie or ad has one of them made it to the finals without lebron like thus dude in the video said rodman&grant both went further in the playoffs without Jordan but Jordan can't say the same and that's the big difference in this debate

@zod4365

3 ай бұрын

​@kirbyaugustine761 statically inaccurate. He's more clutch, last shot wins the game, than Jordan AND Kobe. Sorry

@BlackHatThaDon

3 ай бұрын

Lebron told TLue that Ky was taking the shot, yall give Jordan credit for passing to Paxson & Kerr, and the Ray Allen shot was on the cusp of Bron going on a 16-0 run in the 4th quarter, so if Bron don’t do wat he do then that shot means absolutely nothing, and Bron hit the free throw to end the Warriors in 2016, we all know going up by 3 against the GSW in 2016 was not a sure win

The jury wasn't listening to shit he said because if they were they would've clearly seen that Bron is better. Their mind was already made up before hand.

@kylonp7311

3 ай бұрын

Yea better at losing in the finals 😂😂😂😂

@turbie5510

3 ай бұрын

yeah better at winnin bronze medals

@tzfrank3549

3 ай бұрын

@@turbie5510 LeBron has 2 gold medals and will probably get a 3rd this Summer try again

@tzfrank3549

3 ай бұрын

@@kylonp7311 just like Jordan is better at losing in the 1st round of the playoffs

@kylonp7311

3 ай бұрын

@@tzfrank3549 6-0

damn , made sense

Facts 💯

Lebron James doesn’t come close to Jordan.

@laronhodge4910

3 ай бұрын

Yes he does!!

@nolessgifted6333

3 ай бұрын

@@laronhodge4910 hah! You like to think so.

@nolessgifted6333

3 ай бұрын

@@laronhodge4910 why does Lebron wear the number 23? Because he knows who is the goat. Lebron lost to the underdog Mavs and Dirk Nowitzki in the finals 4-2. I think that saids enough.

@laronhodge4910

3 ай бұрын

That's quite possibly the worst argument I've ever heard. His jersey number?? 🙄

@laronhodge4910

3 ай бұрын

Oh and look who else those Mavericks beat that year. Quite a list.

Greatest argument ever. This ends the debate

@jamaal9911

3 ай бұрын

Weak argument

@creed200569

3 ай бұрын

There is no debate 😂 Lebron has no business even being in the conversation 😂

@mufasawhite

3 ай бұрын

Yeah it does.... Mike still tha Goat.....

@airfrance4365

3 ай бұрын

There was never a real debate

@brandonmitchell1403

3 ай бұрын

Cmon son. Lebron is great but jordan call him what you want but in those finals he was the greatest 6 times. Neva lost.

Facts😂😂😂😂😂

Damn Ryan yu did that

I still think Pippen is more important to that system than Jordan. There are quite a few players in League history that would perform the MJ's role on that Bulls, just as well. Quite a few. On the other hand, only one or two could step into Pippen's role and carry the same punch.

@Traveler1328

3 ай бұрын

thats the reason they won two less games without MJ

@judahmourneth3211

3 ай бұрын

And lost in the 2nd round to a Knick team that Jordan is undefeated to. After 3peating, the bulls took 2 Steps back.

@kylonp7311

3 ай бұрын

@@Traveler1328 yea cause the 94 bulls had 3allstars goofy 😂😂😂😂

@judahmourneth3211

3 ай бұрын

@@yct2.0 huh??

@judahmourneth3211

3 ай бұрын

@@kylonp7311 they act like Scottie was balling with that 80s bulls.

Sayin Jordan not a winner . Disqualifies everything else you saying

@coreythomas3633

3 ай бұрын

if you watch the video mj not really a winner fr

@DUVAL_County

3 ай бұрын

Jordan himself will tell you he has failed. It's the insecure Jordan fans making stuff up. Mj is the Goat but he wasn't invincible.

@travissimmons174

3 ай бұрын

Exactly. Sayin Jordan not a winner when he won more than the dude he arguing for is nasty work 😂😂😂

@Biggetitngo

3 ай бұрын

@@DUVAL_County all I heard is mj is the goat . That’s not debatable that’s a fact

So it’s settled then? 😂

DAMN!