Rustler 4x4 VXL Big Bore Shocks and 60 WT Oil
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I swap out the stock shocks with some Traxxas Big Bore shocks and 60 wt oil. After I finished the video and started editing it, I really could tell a difference in the test shots. I'm very happy with the results.
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I have a rustler 4x4. Not vxl. But I did all of the vxl mods. Velineon motor, 3s, 14 tooth pinion, big bore shocks, heavy duty suspension upgrade, aluminum center driveshaft, upgraded steering servo, aluminum adjustable camber arms and steering arms. Thing is a dream. I got some amazon big bore shocks and they just sucked. Finally ordered the traxxas big bore kit and noticed that the spring rate wasn't quite enough for the truck. Luckily, traxxas sells higher spring rates. I ordered the +20 and +10 springs and ended up using +10 in the rear and +20 in the front. Makes a HUGE difference. It really depends on your driving style. If you like to bash and hit massive jumps, get the higher spring rates. If youre mostly doing small course and street, keep the original spring rates. I love how tuneable the shocks are and the seal in them is absolutely fantastic, you get accurate dampening based on your oil weight. Hopefully this helps anyone trying to choose what they want to do. Enjoy!
I put the big bore shocks on my slash and the performance has been unbelievable, when I took sharp turns with the original shocks the truck would flip over, now it does not I find it hard to even flip the truck when I’m trying to. Great video and great upgrade Thank You.
Perfect video! I got these shocks and wanted to do heavy oil but was afraid to break something. Thank you for this!!!!
@outsourcedrc
5 жыл бұрын
no problem!
I have a Rustler 4x4 VXL. I can definitely tell a difference with the new shocks you put on. Can’t wait to try it on mine.
I also have the big bore shocks. Love them, no more caps popping off, no more bent shock shafts. Traxxas should have had them on the truck from the beginning!
@connorclark8052
4 жыл бұрын
But if they make it aftermarket that's more money in their pocket
@connivingkhajiit
4 жыл бұрын
the original shocks are just as good if you tune them right
@orange1248
3 жыл бұрын
@@connivingkhajiit once you start beating on them, they slowly fail, for normal, not so stressful, small jumps,, speedruns, off roading, they are perfect.
@connivingkhajiit
3 жыл бұрын
@@orange1248 well ice beaten the snoot out of my stampede 4x4 with stock shocks, and after putting aluminum shock caps on them when they would burst, ive never had a problem
@orange1248
3 жыл бұрын
@@connivingkhajiit good to know! I want to be sure what to buy for my rusty 4x4
Nice man, I ordered a rustler and a maxx this weekend mostly because of your vids. Definitely gonna order the big bore shocks to swap them out right off the bat on the rustler. Keep up the great content.
@outsourcedrc
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
Hey good idea with the wood block! Thanks for making this vid.
I just got this RC. Love it!!!
You make fantastic videos my dude! I enjoy watching it. You remind me of Stephen Wonderboy Thompson with the wholesome language. Good videos
Just ordered a set for myself since I broke a shock the other day. I should be able to pick them up tomorrow :)
Great video keep it up! My friend just got those shocks for his Stampede.
I’m getting a rustler 4x4 vxl soon great vid
Im buying this truck on Monday on my birthday. IM SO EXCITED
@outsourcedrc
4 жыл бұрын
Thats awesome! Its a good little RC
I can definitely see the difference, probably because I experienced it myself with gen1 ERevo. The stock setup is really plush, it's very funny while learning and you still go kind of slow in 4S, but for the 6S I switched to the stiffer springs and heavier oil. I can see a very similar behavior here. It turns out with time I would not mind going back a bit for a more plush setup, but not as plush as stock. I don't jump too much and I like to see the suspension arms moving. Just the looks of it, not for the performance
Great video very well documented I appreciate it cant wait to get those on mine. Should try another brand shock colored and compare to these
Its more better... Lol. They're low, they're going to slap some no matter what, i think. Good video. You looked younger! Enjoyed it man, thanks.
Air compresses. Oil(as well as water) don't compress; they 'hydraulic'. I'm running Mobil-1 75/90 synthetic gear oil in my standard 4X4 VXL shocks as well as differentials and it works superbly in both applications. The car handles GREAT and the diffs put the power to the ground. And at less than $10/qt you can change it as much as your OCD needs.
@DB-qm4jx
5 ай бұрын
Dude he said air compresses he just said it compresses at a different rate
Yes, much better performance with the Big Bore Shocks and they are much more durable that the stock shocks ! ....Good investment IMO.
OMG this made my day!! i was thinking about my RC car that i bought 10 years ago and i bought new alu shocks for it and they were so lose and i was like what a shit type of shock is this. And now after watching this vid i realised that there was no shock oil in it hahahah
@outsourcedrc
4 жыл бұрын
oh lol
@Stodds13
4 жыл бұрын
Wow!!! Ouch!!
To me... I think the big bore shocks offer great stability because it gives you greater control with the larger shock as a whole. But the 60 wt. Oil, in my opinion, offers greater dampening. So I am observing the machine appearing to bit hard on a landing die to greater dampening , and also observing greater stability due to the same spring load, however greater dampening. Try it with 40 wt. With the larger shock for greater stability and durability, increase the wt. By 10 and it will increase the spring by decreasing the dampening effect slightly. Or keep the 60 wt. And it will increase stability for drifting and racing although maintaining the same spring effect as stock.i think the weight oil drastically changes effects after drops or jumps. And adds stability operating everywhere else.
love the big bore shocks, ya still get chassis slammers but it dont bounce so bad. plus good luck bending those shock shafts
I could tell, by the sound immediately. Ya got to listen to it.
I’m getting the rustler 4x4 for Christmas and I’m excited
@daleb1225
5 жыл бұрын
I have two and bought two more for my grandsons for Christmas, these new Rustler VXL 4x4s are amazing. The only upgrade I have done to one of them that seems to make a big difference is a set of ProLine Thrashers. It depends on what you do with it, the stock tires work well but the ProLine helps get the other over heavy grass, just much better traction.
@1peanut
5 жыл бұрын
@@daleb1225 checkout the Arrma Granite BLX 3S 4x4
@lucaperaita3992
5 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas enjoy 👍
@jansvasta2146
5 жыл бұрын
Arrma
@zadokwright8904
5 жыл бұрын
Same i can't wait
Great video 👏
Love the vids . The big bore shocks r better with aluminum and the handling . But it don’t stop the car from hitting bottom hard , but big air I go with 70 r 80 wt oil. Stiffens it up a bit more . But all in choice really
Just got a set of these they work good
I tried heavy oil,, but didn't like it much (shock seemed slow). What worked for me was using RPM two stage shock pistons and 45 wt oil. I used the med-heavy kit with the purple pistons (heavy) the way they work is slowing compression without effecting rebound. I did this with every traxxas (Big bore shock) i've ever owned, even the E maxx. the only problem is they don't fit perfect, you may need to sand the pistons diameter to fit. I just rolled a piece of sandpaper into a circle and sanded it till they fit properly. it also worked on my associated T4 shocks
This is the same my buddy got when we both popped our stock shock caps at the track, I got aluminum shock caps he got these
@GreatLakesRC
5 жыл бұрын
Lol, just commented that 😂
Nice property man
Good video, thanks for the info
Suspension upgrades are some of the best mods you can do with any car, be it your 1:1 scale lol or an rc.
I know you dont have to keep spring clips in just to make the springs fit. Looking at different spring kits for the wife and go from there.👍👊😎
Huge difference
Nice video! I’m getting back into RCs and found your channel.
@outsourcedrc
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@OSUHARDING1ATECHNICEXPERIENCE
4 жыл бұрын
hmmm... funny seeing you here.
@AFOLMAN
4 жыл бұрын
@@OSUHARDING1ATECHNICEXPERIENCE Lol! Yeah I’v been playing with RCs again. I figure if I’m going to spend $300 and up on a toy I’d like to be able to drive it.
Also got these on my rusty, along with some rpm parts.
@meazy451
3 жыл бұрын
Love rpm parts. My Stampede refuses to break.
I went with the GTR ones but will see how they go as nearly opted for these.
@outsourcedrc
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I saw. Yours looked like they were a hassle.
Both my son and I really enjoy your videos! I have the erevo 2.0 and he has the rustler 4x4 vxl. I could tell the difference in shock response clearly
@outsourcedrc
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Thats good. Sometimes its hard to tell.
@tiberiocellini3641
5 жыл бұрын
gadgetmantwincities Which of the two would you recommend? Have a nice day
How full should you be filling the shocks with oil?
What else did you do other than the shocks?
Do the Traxxas Big Bore shocks come with aluminum caps?
do they fit on without doing anything to the shocks?
I question how much of this difference has to do with the shocks themselves. Other than being aluminum rather than plastic they are almost the same as the stock ones. This difference is likely down to thicker oil.
ive already had to buy more wheels and tires for that thing because they got unbalanced are you having that issue ?
Is this something i should think about changing out to Aluminium shocks instead of the stock ones that come with this???
Man love your content 👍to be honest they look the same but only you will be able to notice with driving it 👍I had bought some shocks for my revo a few years ago and they are the best shocks I have ever had on ANY OF MY RIGS! and I'm pissed because I don't remember where I got them or the brand lol but I can drop it from 5 feet and it doesn't bottom out it also sticks to the ground now full speed around "50/ 55" depending on my tune and the weather I can break it left or right and it just hooks up on a dime!!!!! No more rolling over at all!!!! I believe I have 40 weight oil in them but I love em!!!!! And not to rain on your parade lol but the only thing I would "re-buy" that's traxxas are "a arms" the colored ones.....I love traxxas and really don't run anything else but one thing about them is their products are awesome but certain things break even when not bashing....I also hate the new clip on bodies!!!!!🤬.....and the wheelie bar on the rustler!!!!!! What is the point of having a wheelie bar if the thing still 12 o'clocks and flips on the lid😑....but anyway I can say for sure is that if you want durable hop ups you can't go any better than integy....however....for way better prices and very good quality hobbypark makes some awesome stuff too👍 of course rpm and proline do but each company makes certain things better than the other also loved that arrma felony vid👍🤌 that car will make me cheat on traxxas lol✌
@outsourcedrc
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoy my videos. I wish you could remember the shocks you got. I'm doing an E REvo 2.0 shock video soon.
@scu-dub
3 жыл бұрын
@@outsourcedrc I found out that they are traxxas GTR shocks👍
@outsourcedrc
3 жыл бұрын
@@scu-dub Thanks!
@scu-dub
3 жыл бұрын
@@outsourcedrcno prob buddy 👍maybe you can give me a shout out during that vid 😁👍✌
Nice video, I also like the Mustang though
@outsourcedrc
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
What is the part # for the big bore shocks on the traxxas website
Hi there, can I ask please how long your getting out of the battery in it? Thanks, Jon
It's too bad I can't upgrade my Rusty 4x4 since I'm pretty much stuck with them as they won't be able to fit mine due to my upgrades.
It seems to handle better it’s the body that’s making the noise every time you land
The fluid is a dampening medium, to slow the compression and rebound of the shock rate. Thinner fluid allows faster compression and rebound as thicker would slow it down. Over bumpy terrain the thinner oil would make your shocks like a basket ball and thicker would make it pack down to the point you would lose vertical travel in your shock.
can I put 100 weight oil in shocks for my rustler 4x4 VXL so it will rarely bottom out?
Just a tip.. compress the shock right as you tighten cap. Tightening with piston extended you havnt bled out what the piston rod displaces.. effectively hydrolocking before end of travel
if you bash the ultra shocks they bend very easy, plus the shock caps are popping off especially the rear ones
Nice, I put some on my rustler 2wd
Maybe I missed it, but did the old shocks also have 60wt oil in them too?
@Tiickel
4 жыл бұрын
cgrant26 nope, stock shocks have 30wt oil in it.
Can I just put the 60 WT Oil in the stock shocks of do I have to get heavy duty ones like the one you got? Also, would you prefer this setup over the original/stock setup? My Rustler does bottom out a lot and it makes me cringe each time I hear that chassis hit the ground. Thanks for the great vid!
@outsourcedrc
4 жыл бұрын
You can put heavier weight in the shocks. I like this set up better.
I'm not swapping them out yet I already bought to many RPM parts plus the Dual Fans, shock oils and Baloons to make shock boots. Not to mention the bigger tires and smaller pinion I'm trying to buy in the future and then Some stocks? $800 Rustler possibly
@ConTheDon187
4 жыл бұрын
yeah my 2wd rustler w/vxl-3 upgrade and strc aluminum upgrades and rpm a arms, hot racing gears, is about 450-500 as it sits, plus batteries around 600
Caps and cylinder of these shocks are plastic or aluminum ?
Dear Outsourced RC Thanks for the review of the shocks! I am very happy with the result of these shocks. I see you’re body doenst come off at the front. I have exact the same Rustler and 80% of my jumps ended with a lose body. Its only at the front side. I understand when my landing is not at all four wheels it can happen, but most of my jumps are clean as yours. It lands from 6-7 ft just like you. Do you have any idea to avoid this problem?
@outsourcedrc
4 жыл бұрын
you may have damaged the front of the body in such a way that it does not stay on. I'd inspect it.
I put 80 weight in my car for jumping and I kept the original shocks. Works great. Just aluminum caps and 80 weight. When you want it soft again. Just put the 3 hole plastic valve on the shock shaft. Walla. Done. 👊😎.
@outsourcedrc
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah but I bent one of the shocks.
@rcsendandblast1579
5 жыл бұрын
Outsourced RC I bent 3 out of 4 shock shafts on my first bash myself 😖
@spacecowboyfpv5511
5 жыл бұрын
Don't say it " works great " and that you bent 3 out of 4 shocks the first time you drove it. LMAO. Worked HORRILBE> that 80 weight shock oil is why you bent your shock shafts.
Is That Stock Esc & Motor? Also What Size Battery Are You Running??
@outsourcedrc
5 жыл бұрын
yeah its stock. The battery is a 3s
Between the ultra shocks and the big bores, the big bores are definitely smoother. Add some thicker oil to the ultra shocks with aluminum caps and your good for bashing.
I was wondering do you have a rustler vxl 2wd or just the 4x4 vxl?
@outsourcedrc
4 жыл бұрын
Just the 4x4
hard to tell on camera any difference. the stock ones seem so soft though.
Beautiful mustang brotha love those 1st and 2nd gen mustangs
@outsourcedrc
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Me too!
I got the new rustler for my 10th b-day!
@lucaperaita3992
5 жыл бұрын
Cari Sundeen is it good couse I’m going to get one for Christmas
@outsourcedrc
5 жыл бұрын
well happy birthday!
@caris2893
5 жыл бұрын
Lucalikes Dogs thats cool!... you should try going to a skateboard park in the summer… But not the winter… In the winter the parts on the RC cars are more brittle and are more reliable to break...But besides that a skateboarding park is very fun and… The rustler is very strong
@outsourcedrc
5 жыл бұрын
@@caris2893 I dont know of a skateboard park near me. all the ones I know are indoors and they dont allow RC cars.
@tiberiocellini3641
5 жыл бұрын
Outsourced RC Would you reccomend more an E Revo 2, Rustler 4x4 vxl or a cheaper brand truck?
I always enjoy your videos. Great job. Great tips. Isn’t 60W kind of heavy? The car would ride like it has no damping, no?
@outsourcedrc
4 жыл бұрын
It seems fine to me. I jump mine pretty high so it is what works
Just put them on my Rusty as well. Great video sir. Also what radius’s are your ramps cut at? I like them. Thankyou
@outsourcedrc
3 жыл бұрын
I actually have a video that shows exactly how I made my ramps. Just scroll down a bit and you should see it.
What pinion and battery setup are you running. Thanks for the video!
@DerekRC
5 жыл бұрын
@Ryan’s Rc Upgrades thanks👍
Did you change placement of top and bottom mount holes or keep stock position? I upgraded same shock and weight but mine is very bouncy on the landing.
@outsourcedrc
4 жыл бұрын
Same holes. I'm not sure why it would be bouncy if you used the same oil that I did. Thicker oil will reduce the bounce.
@kevinbenson2402
4 жыл бұрын
Outsourced RC i stand corrected. I have the GTR with 50 weight. Had them tightened down a tad too much for the 30 degree ramp you helped me build. You have me wanting to get Revo. I have 1 question- is it that good with stock parts? I have Russ 4x4 maxed and I don’t want to have to upgrade everything from the jump this time around.
@outsourcedrc
4 жыл бұрын
@@kevinbenson2402 The E Revo does need a few mods like Limiting straps and servos. Its great once you get it set up.
@kevinbenson2402
4 жыл бұрын
Outsourced RC ordered it Sunday along with the straps and aluminum brace. Last one in stock can’t wait!
what is the bench of oil ?
very nice😄👍👍
It looks like it flys straighter off the jump seems more balanced.
Any pre-load spacers? Might help with slammage on big jumps
@ellettron3731
4 жыл бұрын
I use 8mm preload front and rear on my BBs
Outsourced, why didn’t you use the stock springs in the shocks as Traxxas recommends? Have you tried that combo?
@outsourcedrc
3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what you mean. What do they recommend?
@LG-qi9xh
3 жыл бұрын
@@outsourcedrc They recommend using the stock springs and just using the new upgraded shock bodies. I believe the front shock is a blue short.
What does the gtr stand for ?
People need to do more test like this in video..I don't see much a difference.i think you made need to change the springs.. On the big bore shocks I bought the original springs were stronger.. Count the coils.. Goodluck
Were you using a 2s or a 3s lipo in this video? Just wondering
@outsourcedrc
5 жыл бұрын
3s all day every day!
@dirtybauer7022
5 жыл бұрын
@@outsourcedrc what discharge rate though?
@outsourcedrc
5 жыл бұрын
35c
How long do u run your rustler before the motor heats up ? Im getting 25 minutes of usage before the motor is hot.. is that normal ? What can i do to make the motor be cool more time ?
@outsourcedrc
4 жыл бұрын
I dont run it hot. I've only had ti run hot when I put the 17t pinion and ran it in grass. Is that what you are doing?
@KusshLover323
4 жыл бұрын
@@outsourcedrc i run it on grass.. as well as dirt and cement. And i have a 20 pinion.. Since i dont have a temperature gun. Is it normal for the motor to get hot with only 25 minutes of using the car ?
@outsourcedrc
4 жыл бұрын
@@KusshLover323 with a 20t pinion, yes. you will run it hot like that. That is a lot of work on the motor.
I wanna get some 50w for my Hoss but i dont know what to do. I hate how big jumps make the chassis slam the ground. I want the stress to go on the shocks rather than breaking more parts on it. Im trying to turn it into a jump car. What would you recommend?
@outsourcedrc
3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you cant avoid the chassis hitting the ground. Just set it up with thicker shock oil and soften the landing best you can.
@docedits7294
3 жыл бұрын
@@outsourcedrc Thank you. I just got 50w so Ill be trying that. I did a decent drop test and it works pretty good. I love how you can change the performance on Hobby grade rcs. Love your videos man. You are so friendly.
@outsourcedrc
3 жыл бұрын
@@docedits7294 Thanks! Its just how I am.
What spur and pinion gear do you have in it. And what kind of battery
@outsourcedrc
4 жыл бұрын
Its the stock gearing and the battery is a Venom 5000 mah 35c 3s
Do big bore shocks just improve the suspension?
@outsourcedrc
5 жыл бұрын
Not really. They are just better made with aluminum parts. The oil and springs are what really matter. These shocks are tougher than the originals so I'm replacing the one I bent with the Big Bore shocks.
What good batteries do you recommend for this preferably 3s.
@outsourcedrc
5 жыл бұрын
I run Venom 5000 Mah 35c 3s. I kinda want a 6400 Mah for it though.
Did you use the same oil in the stock shocks?
@Tiickel
2 жыл бұрын
He did not. He used 60wt oil in the new shocks.
Another question do the screws on the top of the RUstler fit into these and work?
@outsourcedrc
5 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure I understand. The screws on top of the Rustler? do you mean on top of the shocks?
@leroy5202
5 жыл бұрын
Outsourced RC yes the stock screws that are on top of the shocks do they fit into those?
@outsourcedrc
5 жыл бұрын
@@leroy5202 Not really. They are too short.
I’m just convinced that there’s nothing u can do about the rustler bottoming out. The truck is known for it.
Thinking about buying my first real 4x4 RC truck AND I believe. I have narrowed it down to this model. I been flying drones for over 2 years and been driving High End RC Boats so I think this will be a good fit! What are your thoughts about the 4X4?
@timnorman1659
5 жыл бұрын
Awesome rc 4x4 got mine for father's day!
@outsourcedrc
5 жыл бұрын
It's awesome. I have several videos about it.
Subscribed 💪🏻👍
@outsourcedrc
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
ik this was 3 years ago, but recently ive had this literally exact same upgrade to my traxxas hoss. The shocks are super durable but the bottom e-ring, holding the piston keeps poping off. and piston slides down the shaft, providing no damping. wast of time and shock oil, so im gonna replace the e-rings with better ones.
@outsourcedrc
2 жыл бұрын
I have not had that issue. I wonder if it has to do with the Hoss it self.
@rctd3260
2 жыл бұрын
@@outsourcedrc no, because I've run them on other vehicles before and the same thing happened.
Question, I don't know if I didn't see it or missed or I was passed out or what... But Why the Big Bore vs GTR Long?
@outsourcedrc
4 жыл бұрын
I honestly forget why. I dont remember.
@Zeiss120
4 жыл бұрын
@@outsourcedrc So follow up, if you where to upgrade the shocks today would you go with the Big Bore, GTR or GTR Long?
Got a rustler 4x4 last weekend. Only ran it like 5 min😐, the weather and my work haven't let me driving it yet😭😭
@outsourcedrc
5 жыл бұрын
Take it to work! I do that some times
@TheTranfan
5 жыл бұрын
@@outsourcedrc hmm yeah that's a plan😀
I'd just look for some heavier springs and use the spacers to add more rebound, and a thicker oil rather than spending the money on these. Not much of an upgrade for the cost imo
@outsourcedrc
4 жыл бұрын
I bent a shaft in one of the shocks anyways.
I like your ramps. Didnt really see the difference
@outsourcedrc
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Its hard to tell really.
Is that 60 weight on front and back?
@outsourcedrc
3 жыл бұрын
Yep
How can I fix my traxxas rustler 4x4 ? the suspension is not level and very low almost on the floor
@outsourcedrc
4 жыл бұрын
Its hard for me to trouble shoot it with out looking at it. Look and see if it has those spaces that clip onto the shocks missing. Also make sure they are in the correct holes. Compare it to images online of other Rustlers.
You didn’t mention anything about setting rebound when adding oil, other videos talk about that, not sure if it is important or not, other guys say it is when setting up new shocks
Why didn't you just add more preload to the original shocks
I have a 2wd stampede I got the big bore shocks, not sure what weight of oil I should use any suggestions
@outsourcedrc
5 жыл бұрын
somewhere between 30-50 is what I would use. Its not powerful enough or heavy enough for anything heavier.
@jasonnaish666
5 жыл бұрын
awesome thanks im gonna subscribe to your channel
When you are hitting the jumps, are you using stock pinion or speed? I have a rustler 4x4 Vxl getting shipped to my doorstep right now! Can’t wait but just wanted to know if it needed the speed pinion to do good on jumps
@outsourcedrc
5 жыл бұрын
Stock. I only put the 17t pinion in for certain videos. I never run it otherwise with the 17t