Russian seized assets a headache for Italian authorities • FRANCE 24 English
Huge yachts, private planes, luxury villas and flashy cars. All belonging to Russian oligarchs whose assets in Italy have been frozen since the invasion of Ukraine two years ago, and, according to data collected by the European commission, this amounts to 2.3 billion euros. But this is turning out to be extremely costly for the Italian state. Our correspondent in Italy tells us more
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When its Russian its called oligarch, when its your master, USA, its called entrepreneur.
@nirajshrestha5621
Ай бұрын
@@Just_another_Euro_dude cope harder.
@Just_another_Euro_dude
Ай бұрын
@@nirajshrestha5621 Imagine being an incredibly poor fourth worlder and telling an European to cope harder. Ahhahahaahaha. 😅😅😅😅😂😂😂😂😂🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦 Yeah, i'll try to cope, somehow. With my brand new furniture that i am buying right now, and sneakers and clothing and chocolate. While suntaning here in southern Europe.
@GorrillaShorts
Ай бұрын
@@theincrement4898nato clown when he sees someone who doesn't dickride his master USA
@miloszaric1392
Ай бұрын
@@Just_another_Euro_dude and being depraved surrounded by emotional/spiritual parasites
@flash305johnson6
Ай бұрын
Yea u do make a point don't listen to these snowflakes 😭
Funny how Russian businessmen are always presented as oligarchs.
@Stebetto3
Ай бұрын
Because some of them are? They steal money from normal people.
@MissCheeseE
Ай бұрын
western media doesn’t know the meaning of oligarch.
@user-nc2qj2jc5q
Ай бұрын
But the USA just businessmen.
@darkmatter5424
Ай бұрын
They don't even know what oligarch definition is anymore. 😅
@earth.planet8860
Ай бұрын
because they are
Stupidity is stealing expensive things and then go on complaining that you can't maintain them 😂😂😂
@AbdulNajeed-ex5oc
26 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂. Imagine the people who own. They will laugh at this.
@j7...
23 күн бұрын
@@AbdulNajeed-ex5ocyes, they laugh and have bought another one already
Its real owner was like.... thanks for maintaining my yatch for free. 😂
Bill the US for the maintenance cost.
@nirajshrestha5621
Ай бұрын
🤣 usa banging europe from not just all sides but whole 360 degrees in reality, whether it be politically, financially, emotionally, through energy.
@ayewohdeomo7775
Ай бұрын
true
@icemike1
Ай бұрын
Right their master
@zulkanainbaharuddin2185
28 күн бұрын
If you bill the US, you'll be sanctioned.😊😊😊
@GM-vt6is
24 күн бұрын
@nirajshrestha5621 The US is imploding on itself...and given that nothing of value has come out of its borders the last 40 years or so, its end cant come fast enough.
When are they taking netanyahu's bicycle?
@michaelasamoah2390
Ай бұрын
After nana addo golden head..
@kwakuba9167
Ай бұрын
@@michaelasamoah2390 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😁
@andrewlim7751
Ай бұрын
They need to implant iron balls to act.
@malamute11
24 күн бұрын
@@michaelasamoah2390 😂😂😂😂
Perhaps they should return the stolen property.
@lacdirk
Ай бұрын
Sure thing. The owner just needs to come to Italy, prove they own the yacht, and that they didn't buy it using the proceeds of a crime, prove that they paid the requisite taxes and didn't support an imperialist, genocidal regime. Easy peasy.
@Just_another_Euro_dude
Ай бұрын
You talking about Russians in Ukraine right?
@CrazyassGamer123
Ай бұрын
@@lacdirk the owner is russian, not american lol
@miloszaric1392
Ай бұрын
@@lacdirkdid you say the same thing about Londongrad? Everything is fine when you're getting that dirty money, peek "western values". Who's gonna park their dirty money with you now?
@user-vf6nn6hx9x
Ай бұрын
Russians are under no legal obligation to prove to Italians how they aquired their property
How humiliating .. they team up for unnecessary war and losses miserably
Can they seize my house please? I got all kind of stuff they can fix for me. This is one of the dumbest stories of I ever seen in my life.
@lacdirk
Ай бұрын
Then you didn't understand much of it.
@mariajason3547
Ай бұрын
@@lacdirkwe Did understand everything and they are Still Stupid and Dumb........... They brought this to themselves.......did they think that those oligarchs will at quiet as they take their properties?..... They are government they should have thought through....hallo
this is so dam funny to me they literally took a 65 million yacht and still complaining
@lacdirk
Ай бұрын
Because it's just impounded. They can't sell it or use it, but they have to maintain it.
@bcatbb2896
Ай бұрын
@@lacdirk then thats their problem that they created on their own they could easily just say screw it and sell or rent the thing out to cover the cost, but they chose not to you cant complain about something when you created the issue
@nirajshrestha5621
Ай бұрын
@lacdirk they can just release it you know. No one is stopping Italian authorities unless they have lost their sovereignty.
lol so sanctions are costing the EU to lose money? 😂 😂
@j7...
23 күн бұрын
Always have, mate xD
How dumb can a country be? Me: meet the EU
You can’t mate. Don’t you hear what that lawyer say : it’s private property and you can’t take it 😂😂😂😂😂
@lacdirk
Ай бұрын
Private property paid for by illegal means is forfeit. It's how we take away the property of mafia bosses as well as that of their henchmen.
This is the funniest thing ever, they basically stole a yatcht and realized damn its actually eating from their poeckets, imagine that
Just give back to the owner!
@lacdirk
Ай бұрын
As long as they come and get it in person, so they can be apprehended and charged.
@Ducac321
Ай бұрын
@@lacdirk why don't they charge them? You don't need to be physically present to be charged.
@lacdirk
Ай бұрын
@@Ducac321 They were charged with crimes. That's why they are under sanctions.
@Ducac321
Ай бұрын
@@lacdirk no they weren't. Sanctions are almost always political.
@vervetech9395
Ай бұрын
@@lacdirkCharge them for what exactly? You're just commenting without reasoning. They're business men not politicians and even if they were politicians you'd need a strong case against them specifically. They've been coming to Italy for years without any problem, the only reason their properties are being seized is because of political reasons not legal reasons and if these business men were to sue the Italian government in any court of law, the government would lose because those business men didn't break any laws.
Bwahaha , stolen property hard to maintain?
This is the problem. The assets were frozen instead of confiscated. Impotent sanctions
@jvjd
Ай бұрын
A crime is not solved by another crime
@uchennaabosi7651
Ай бұрын
Thief
@lacdirk
Ай бұрын
@@jvjd That is literally how the justice system works.
Clearly no one here have experienced law enforcement seizing or impounding property. It needs to be in same condition when released otherwise you can get sued. This prevent law enforcement’s using your goods as target practice
@arghost9798
Ай бұрын
If the seizing is being lifted, did the owner should pay all the maintenance cost?
@shamirmussa4509
29 күн бұрын
@@arghost9798no because they didn’t ask the goods to be impounded
So when America invaide other country no seize there asset
These are private properties
@JamesSmith-ix5jd
Ай бұрын
not in the EUSSR
@piratesofthebarentssea
Ай бұрын
@@JamesSmith-ix5jdGood morning! We are glad that you have finally woken up. You slept for a very long time and therefore a lot of events happened in the world. You will be very interested to know that the USSR ceased to exist 33 years ago.
@lacdirk
Ай бұрын
Private property paid for by illegal means is forfeit. It's how we take away the property of mafia bosses as well as that of their henchmen.
Who are the real pirates here? Their worst than the Somali pirates lol 😂
@zulkanainbaharuddin2185
28 күн бұрын
Pirates of the caribbean.
they should give them back to the original owners this is stealing
Highly Illegal ⚖️
@Stebetto3
Ай бұрын
*Legal
@youtubevideo7086
Ай бұрын
Yes. The life of poeple vietnam . Afghanistan. Iraq. Sria. Was not important@@Stebetto3
Haha so. by freezing them are they forced then to have to dock them for free? 😂Saving 13,000 a month- nice!
Maintaining a white Elephant 😂😂😂😂
private property btw
What even is an Oligarch at this point? A businessman from a country you dont like?
Being a vassal state of the US does come with its own problems.
Meanwhile the Russian tycoons are making more billions...after
Buying property in Europe is risky this days just look at Ebrahimovic
@lacdirk
Ай бұрын
Only if you're a criminal or part of a criminal regime. Which, to be fair, is going to include an awfully large percentage of today's high-wealth individuals.
@simonl4657
Ай бұрын
You seem to not care about the concept of property rights that underpins the entire western economic system. If things went according to your feelings then you can expect an economic depression as billions of assets leave for other places
@lacdirk
Ай бұрын
@@simonl4657 Property paid with the proceeds of criminal enterprises have never been protected.
@zulkanainbaharuddin2185
28 күн бұрын
@@lacdirk you mean the criminal regime of the US & EU.😊😊😊
@atlash6387
27 күн бұрын
@lacdirk Hadn't been so picky, when accepted the money.
The stupidest thing to possibly do. Literally cost them more money to freeze the assets!! Beside they are citizens and it’s private property. But hey I wouldn’t mind y’all paying for my Electric bill, boat slip rent, engine maintenance, pulling it out of the water for a full inspection! Doing me a favor!
@lacdirk
Ай бұрын
Private property paid for by illegal means is forfeit. It's how we take away the property of mafia bosses as well as that of their henchmen.
@rafaeloreirorodriguez5278
Ай бұрын
@@ruthhenry9577when one seize one’s assets just because that individual makes business with someone you don’t like it. Not a single state arrest or seize yours or anyone’s assets because that individual have to deal with someone you don’t like it except EU and US, but those states can have more than deals, financial interests with despicable persons and is ok, perfectly fine.
I remember when personal property of certain people in Germany was seized in 1940's ., It is not clear when and under which circumstances the personal property of Russian citizens will be released , or why it was seized in the first place. Of course , the word " temporary" does not include the time frame, is it a month, year, decade, a lifetime, or several generations have to pass before the property is returned.
Italy's governmental bureaucracy and corruption likely wastes more money in a single day than the stated costs of maintenance that they have having a cry about for this boat. Slow news day
now pay that maintenance😂😂😂
for those who want's to "sell" it. no one would buy stolen goods
What is the defence between oligarchs and a tech entrepreneurs asking for a friend
How are the other nato/eu impounders coping????
@lacdirk
Ай бұрын
Fine. So is Italy, truth be told. Soloviev's villas were also impounded, and were used to house Ukrainian refugees. Yachts are just useless, and if the owner does not come to claim them they should be scuttled in the middle of the Atlantic.
Imagine the debauchery that has happened on those boats.
So they stealing 😂 because of Ukraine?
Well who in the future is going to buy stuff in Italy? Think about that.
10,000 usd for electricity+ water 😅😅😅
The italuan government is unable to pay 50000 euros on maintenance on just one yatch 😅😅😅😅 but it has the power to sanction
@nosferatus777
Ай бұрын
Nahh!!
I do t wish to be a Italian tax payer-to pay for all this stupid things and the oligarchs happy now there is someone paying all things for them. Later they will sue Italian government because his yacht is not in proper order and devalue for past few years. They will make another money after from Italian government. 😂😂😂😂😂
Russia is not somalia, libya or afghanistans
Oligarchs are investors . Public investors.
So The west can't even afford to punish Russia anymore 😂😂
Consequences of misguided aggression against Russia
Can the Italian government seize my property as well, I live in the US 😂
When netanyahou will face sanctions ?
Why to be seized if it’s for someone not government
@lacdirk
Ай бұрын
Because that government is just an organised crime ring in control of a country.
😂😂😂 why would the Russians worry when their yatchs are being well taken care of.
😂😂😂😂10.000 euro powerbill for what its a boat😂😂😂😂 to charge it cost no way near 10.000 grand
Only fitting that the consequences for what should be illegal seizures should be a huge financial burden. Hopefully the costs will go way past the value of the yachts
This is theft straight up. These are individuals on what basis is there personal property being seized.
I have an idea. How about returning the stolen items so the burden isn't on the italian taxpayers?
It is a private asset. There is No legal base to seize it.
Maintain crew and oil? Why that?
It is simple. Return stuff you stole to their rightful owner lol. Italy stole other people's stuff and now complaining about it? lol.
The oligarch should continue paying the maintenance fees, or accumulate debt if he/she refuses. As soon as the debt passes the value of the yacht, then it can be confiscated 👍🏾
US authorized then to seize those assets and so the US has pay for the charges.
Free maintenance, who cant complain. Also when their assets get unfrozen due to illegal seizure I'm sure that someone will have to compensate them (legal fees etc) XD
Sell the yachts
@piratesofthebarentssea
Ай бұрын
How can you sell someone else's property?
@gregorywilson2124
Ай бұрын
@@piratesofthebarentssea seized means taking ownership.
@JamesSmith-je7vf
Ай бұрын
@@gregorywilson2124 The Corrupt legal system is profiting. Sanctions are just another way for the rich to get richer at taxpayers expense.
@user-vf6nn6hx9x
Ай бұрын
Like the US the Italians have learned that they can't sell or use the seized yachts, legally have to maintain them at their own expense and that NOBODY wants to buy them because of who they belong to, everyone is afraid of Spetsnaz or Wagner showing up on the seas to reclaim them on behalf of the rightful owners 😅
@saiganesh7502
25 күн бұрын
@gregorywilson2124, when a bank freezes your account, nobody can withdraw or deposit from it. But the money is still there. The bank can not take that money for themselves. The same goes with sanctions.
European politicians thinking is absurd
Maybe they shouldn't seize it in the first place
*Seize means involved war Crimes*
In Spain the Russians oligarchs have they Realstate.👍
Give it back 😅😅
Seizing assets just because one is Russian seems very Fascist!
Just sell the yachts?
Russia in Kharkiv offensive cost them 1.5 million military personnel. Due to the huge loses, Putin and other ministers are in the front line.
Madness everywhere
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.funniest thing ever .free maintenance
The morw i see EU policies being implemented the more i am convinced the vittyom of the unemployment barrel is sitting in Brussels
cost of blindly following America without applying any critcal thinking
Russia always a winner 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂 you call the tune you pay the piper
The original pirates were European descent as all they know steel Rob and kill
From a Mexican sounds like the Italians are bought out lol
That is stealing.
What about American oligarch😂😂
@lacdirk
Ай бұрын
Such as?
@Fabbiebeats
Ай бұрын
@@lacdirkelon musk, mark those two can sink a country with their assets
@lacdirk
Ай бұрын
@@Fabbiebeats Elon is definitely powerful, and he is definitely anti-western (and hence anti-American). While he clearly has too much influence on the US, it's not like he's part of the ruling caste. That said, if he would credibly be accused of supporting genocide, fascism, ethnic cleansing etc in legally enforable way (i.e. he could be convicted in an international court of law), I'ld be supporting of prosecuting him.
@nirajshrestha5621
Ай бұрын
@@Fabbiebeatselon musk is just the tip of the iceberg.
Hey, hands off. Ill be taking these confiscated assets. Ill be using this for my endeavors and tasks. Some of these would be delivered to Russia and some would be delivered to Mainland Japan.
Russian has responded.
Private property
Let the innocent business men have their properties. They are Russians not Russia
Just sell it and stop whining
Anything for mother usa
lol then sell them.
Us seized their asset
Never invest in Europe nor usa
Let them pay for maintenance if they don't want them to be worthless when the sanctions are potentially taken away. Or just return them, West isn't exactly doing as much as we are saying anyway.
@jvjd
Ай бұрын
Well they are not given visas to come nor is ruble accepted. If you read law if an item is seized or impounded then its need to be in the same condition when it’s released otherwise you get sued ..duh
@PSA78
Ай бұрын
@@jvjd..and that's why I said that they should return it otherwise. It's not exactly a regular situation to begin with, but they decided to get after it for some reason.
@rustyshackleford7808
Ай бұрын
They have to return it in the and condition them took them in. So the government has not choice
@PSA78
Ай бұрын
@@rustyshackleford7808 Thank you for missing the point.
Stolen, there you go I fixed it for you 😉
ex appropriate?
What about the Ukranian oligarch who sellong the weapons to african and arab countries?
Rent it out, problem solved.
@user-vf6nn6hx9x
Ай бұрын
Can't
@ad_astra468
Ай бұрын
@@user-vf6nn6hx9x Why not?
Europe is in the business of stealing money from Russia 😂😂😂
You do not have to obey the USA.
Ukraine owns the asset now. Give it over to Ukraine.
Why invest in italy if your gov could be sanctioned. So forget about chinese investment for the future
@havanascp9602
Ай бұрын
More like forget about investing in America because now you can’t even say anything or they might get butt hurt n steal all your assets lol
@Just_another_Euro_dude
Ай бұрын
If you plan to invade an European country and EU candidate then it's a bit difficult for the things to remain as they were. 😂
Not do that not right! be backfire for the west economy and tourism next time
😅😅😅😅