Next episode is HERE! - Project Siesta - Autotesting, MOT and other bad news… kzread.info/dash/bejne/dYR_0rmMoZvXh6w.html

Loved this series so far. I'd absolutely love to see before and after dyno runs with and without the ITBs on the Ford ECU. Would be interesting to see what the plots look like.

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

I’d like to get some dyno runs done but it’s money and more importantly time to get them, difficult to carve out time with a full time job and kids etc…

@maximumattackrallying

2 жыл бұрын

@@MakingforMotorsport understandable, and probably not really worth it in reality. Would be interesting to see though!

@Kj16V

Жыл бұрын

​@@MakingforMotorsportDefinitely not pointless! It's the only way to know how it's running and what difference the itbs made.

ive been shaking my head positively in every situation you came across. mate, im a car mechanic even for me your videos about itb's are educational ! ive been searching videos like this because im on the same mod myself 4age 16v with itb's with stock ecu .+ super afc apexi . no one ever made it run properly with stock ecu or even that added apexi fuel controller. its kind of a challenge for me ! thats why im pressing my self to finish it and completely fool the ecu like you did . relocated the tps so i can use the 16v one , relocated the iat sensor on the t3 adapter between butterfly no4 and cylinder head and using the original TVIS system so it has good speed density on idle .small vacuum manifold for map and fpr and servo booster . if i manage to make -55 -60 kpa on idle ( original value ) i think i can make the apexi's life easier !!! lol. fingers crossed!! thanks for sharing knowledge!!!!! keep it up!!!

@MakingforMotorsport

Жыл бұрын

Oh yes… the 4AGE! Love it, what an engine…. Let me know how you get on!

Hi, loved this project! Here is an idea for your vaccum manifold: remove the injectors from itb and replace by dummies, and use the fuel rail as vaccum port.

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

That! That is genius! 💯💯💯

@thebibidu

2 жыл бұрын

@@MakingforMotorsport haha, glad you appreciate the idea. May not work if you're planning big turbo and twin injector set up though. And we know you're a naughty boy ☺️ (Ps, you're the reason I have a speeduino on my desktop, thanks for being an inspiration)

@TravisFabel

2 жыл бұрын

That will cause a similar problem to his oversize manifold. You need the volume to be small to be responsive. An undersized fuel rail could work. Location sounds like a good idea.

@thebibidu

2 жыл бұрын

@@TravisFabel maybe the sensor could be put on the rail ? Food for thought 🙂

@mikemikeyee

2 жыл бұрын

@@thebibidu This is definitely worth giving a try. Probably better placement of getting a good vacuum reading

I thoroughly enjoyed this! Super glad I found your Channel from the polybushes on the Mini! 🙏

Love the honestly in your videos. The fact you're not screaming and saying the car is completely different is refreshing. This is a really cool project and I look forward to seeing what you do next!

Fantastic work all around, looking forward to the next episode! Hi Tom!

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers bud!

Hi Tom! Amazing work, I love how well documented this is Best of luck with your mot pass!

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers bud 🤞

Incredible!😂 sounds amazing!😆 Great work, even more keen to do this to my daihatsu. Great editing too, you put the video together really well, finally i can watch someone who doesn’t just walk around talking into a camera about what they just had to eat instead of showing us how they actually did things to their car!🤦‍♂️

Before you go full speeduino it would be really interesting if you could plug it in with only the wideband, and log what the original ecu is doing, how lean or rich its running as it is. It sounds so good, proper race car feel, if you don't look at the speedo of course 😂

Thank you for this! Finally someone showing the magic of making a map sensor block for ITB’s on a stock ECU, would love to see a budget exhaust manifold and De-cat before the mappable ecu

LOVING THIS SERIES!! This stuff is right up my alley with things I've been thinking about doing. I'm so glad I found this channel. I'm really looking forward to all the speeduino stuff. That thing has intrigued me for so long now. I've got a couple junk cars standing around at home. A subaru legacy bg with the EJ20 in it would be a nice candidate to see if I can get it running on a speeduino. ITBs on a boxer anyone? 😄

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

That sounds like a nice project… and it would sound awesome! Speedy vids hopefully coming soon….

@nickzysek3257

Жыл бұрын

ITBs on those Subie engines sound amazing. I wish I could’ve done it on my Subaru but it would’ve been too involved of a process. I think my 1JZ-GE will be a much better candidate for ITBs.

love this content, just wish it was longer so there was more for me to enjoy! excellent stuff, keep it up!

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers bud, just trying to keep it punchy! More vids planned! 👍

I’ve gotta be honest, I’m rather impressed with what you have managed to do with the little fizzbomb mate. It sounds like a MK2 Escort with twin 40 webbers on it so that’s a definite win in my opinion.

@nickcook7408

2 жыл бұрын

Open throttles on a 4 cyl will always sound like that mate, it’s why we love them

Great production quality excited to see more.

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers bud… plenty more planned

Good luck on the MOT. Looking forward to seeing more on this with the programable ECU.

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers, I don’t mind if any mechanical components need changing but I can’t be bothered with welding…!

Fantastic video man, definitely doing this to my little suzuki.

Nice job, thanks for putting in the hard work 🤙

Awesome work! cant wait to get my suzuki efi kits done with similar ideas!

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers, love your crawler!

This is really sweet! I love the low budget, yet high level of design. Proves that you don’t need big budget to improve your car. I wish I had access to 3D printing when I was a teenager!

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

We don’t need a big budget on this channel! (Which is helpful, as my wife won’t give me any money!)

Great content. I'm currently building a puma autocross car and this is giving me ideas of doing my own conversion. After ecu and mapping I'd be really keen to see hp and torque increase.

love the content, hi tom!

Hi tom, thanks for Good camera work

Came for the cameo by Tom. Stayed for the excellent work! Cant wait to hear about the MOT pass and see the map-able ECU.

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

Fingers crossed for the MOT, we’ll see 😬🤷‍♂️

Great, please keep it up, looking forward to the next video... Hi Tom ;-)

first vid of your channel I watched - subscribed! Ps I owned and loved a 1.7 Puma swiss cheese edition a few years ago and am a HUGE fan of that platform.

Awesome! Cant wait for the next video!

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

Plenty more coming! 👍

lovely engine sound hi Tom!

Hy Tom! Thank you to for the fun videos!

Hi Tom! hey this showed up in my algorithm so something is right! like and subscribed

Nice, cant argue with those results, congratulations! =D 7 percent is a big gain....must be that extra hole in the ITBs ;)

Great content!

This is perfect! Looking to do this on my 1.7 puma engine and apparently the tape ecu is mappable !

Hi Tom! And woo, looks like my prediction was correct.

Hi Tom!!!!! Xxx Loving your work David!

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Sazzle!!! You can be in the next one! 👍

Waiting for the next episode :D

great content man. thank you

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks bud!

bwarrrp! love it nice job

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers bud!

Brrrraaaaapppp. The noise is every bit as glorious as expected That works shockingly well. Thank you emissions tech for doing something useful for once.

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

It’s a nice change to have it work for you instead of against!

@TheIamgibbo

2 жыл бұрын

@@MakingforMotorsport also, more details on the printer enclosure please! Keen to hear how the printer is going/any setup changes you've made. I've got an enclosure mostly done to try and print standard nylon (it's cheap), but I'm yet to give it a go yet. Need a dry box first

Another quality video!

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers 👍

Thank you for the series! Already used your Mini videos to fit R6 Carbs on my 1.3 Micra. So next step it's fit ITB's to tunee it properly! Really really good material🙌🏼 You can see it running on my channel

@MakingforMotorsport

Жыл бұрын

Cheers buddy, I’ll check your channel out! 👍

Great videos man

@MakingforMotorsport

Жыл бұрын

Cheers buddy… been a bit slow recently… getting back on the horse now 👍

@DRIFT_CORE

Жыл бұрын

@@MakingforMotorsport seriously learnt alot 👍👍

You can get little aluminium collector blocks with threaded holes for fittings to fit the vac pipes all together into one and run one single line out of the collector block.

Hi Tom! Keep up the good work on the Fiesta! Not picking fault at all, but you don't have the theory of the Short & Long term fuel trims right at all.

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

Hi there, I did many cuts of this and talked about catalyst efficiency and a host of other stuff, but I had to boil it down to the essence and just explain it’s tiles in helping this system work. But OEM units really aren’t my bag at all… far prefer a mappable unit!

Quality content

Tbh, I put your vids up there with the likes of Guy Martin, Bad obsession motorsport and old top gear. Love it bro 😄.

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

Exulted company l, which I totally do not deserve but I am happy you are enjoying the channel!

I'd love to see you do this on a slightly more modern car with more sensors to fight with. Keep up the fantastic work.

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

I’ll do this on any car I can get hold off!

@deciplesteve

2 жыл бұрын

@@MakingforMotorsport something with a variable runner manifold, MAF sensor, etc to compete with would be quite the test of your skills.

good job

Hey, I've got a project on hand - a 20v 5cyl swapped lancia delta HPE '97. Do you think I should go for the speeduino and do lost spark 5 cylinder or buy a 6-channel sparkefi standalone and normal sequential ignition / injection? I'm torn because I want to do it right and not spend a lot of cash (expenses are basically a few times more cause poland is a 2nd world country) you're the one who basically got me into this ecu world.

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

It’s difficult. The 6-channel would be more elegant but people have run 5-pots with a 4 channel Speedy. I’d say get on the forums and really understand what a 4-channel speedy needs…. I am always a fan of just getting stuff going to enjoy it, hard to enjoy it when it’s not running. Cheapest, fastest, worry about perfection later. 👍. (But that’s just me - if you are a perfectionist then maybe not)

@lancereyesromero7811

2 жыл бұрын

Please post videos about it

@Jonathan_Doe_

2 жыл бұрын

GM LS coil packs mounted on a plate somewhere near the spark plug holes (there’s a reason everyone and their dog uses them), and some little HT leads. Run an ECU that can handle 5 coils packs.

@afox5319

2 жыл бұрын

As someone who lives in Austria, Hey Atleast you get to enjoy modifying cars

@Jonathan_Doe_

2 жыл бұрын

@@afox5319 Yeah you guys need to drive around with a glovebox full of TUV approval certificates just to lower your car and change the wheels 😂

Haha! Love it! Well done!

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers bud!

Amazing work, I foresee hours on marketplace looking for cheap cars with oem map sensors lol. I would love to do this for myself. You can boost Idle Kpa and stabilize the kpa more if you use one way vacuum check valves on 3 of the 4 runners vacuum lines leading to the map sensor.

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

That’s not a bad shout, it will help the vacuum side it of the MAP signal, but I doubt I will take this setup further… too many options!

@kasuraga

2 жыл бұрын

That's exactly the sort of setup I've been planning on using for my DIY itb's on my integra. small reservoir, some check valves, and bam, smoothed map signal

@biggboysouth

2 жыл бұрын

@@kasuraga Did it for my ITB miata and it worked really well. I have a aftermarket ECU so I was able to monitor / record my KPA readings and was able to configure my ITB KPA behavior close to stock.

Really like the content.

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers buddy! 👍

Good job m8!!! Cheers :)

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers buddy! 👍

sounds sick af thats what really matters tbh

Would like to see this done on a zetec s mk5 would be so much more fun. GREAT IDEA WELL DONE DUDE. ;-)

When I make parts like the MAP sensor adapter, I usually print NPT pipe threads so I can use a threaded brass barb. 3d printed barbs like that always seem to break off.

Heres hoping you do a great "how to speeduino" :) but of course if the other videos is to be judged its going to be great

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

That’s the plan… hopefully the MOT is easy on me and we can press on!

@JD-eo7dr

2 жыл бұрын

@@MakingforMotorsport you dont need to put it back standard for the mot. They only test for exhaust I think it still probably be within MOT emissions limits

Might have been pointed out already, but both STFT and LTFT are determined by the pre cat\upstream sensor. Post cat is used for cat monitoring only. Car sounds great tho.

wow... new Subscriber, I have been thinking of doing something on my little EP1, only problem is the Inlet manifold is in a lot harder place in the engine bay...

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome along! All cars need Throttle bodies! 👍

Amazing Sound. I thought it was a 8v Zetec Rocam 1.6l engine, but I realized it was revving too high with a stock ECU, and when I saw the engine I realized that the RoCam engine is mostly seen in Brazil. Nice build tho!

@ascorbic123

2 жыл бұрын

I've had 2 cars with the RoCam and they're honestly a good bit of fun.

Hi Tom!

That's fantastic, I always wondered if this was possible. Maybe you could try remapping the standard Ford ECU?

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

Hmmm… hadn’t thought about that… was just gonna roll straight into a Speeduino full mappable ECU…. I’ll look into it.

Cracking video! I just wonder whether with the speeduino you could pass emissions by changing the maps

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the emissions you could pass I reckon… I know certain areas (California) have the ECU do checks on the cat efficiency, speeduino can’t do those so it would fail those areas…

This reminds me of Micra Madness' K11 Micra with motorcycle ITBs.

I really enjoyed this siesta series and you have a new follower. Would you ever consider making the 3d prints for this experiemtn available, maybe to patreon subscribers? I'd love to try out this on my 1.4 puma.

What ITB's would you say is a good way to go for a 1977 Chevrolet/Vauxhall/Opel 2.0L CIH motor, I will also going to be running Speeduino. Many thanks for the great content. Warm regards from Port Elizabeth, South Africa.

How have I only just found this channel?

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

I dunno! But what matters is you’re here now! Plenty more planned 👍

I would be very interested to see how you integrate the idle air control valve

Hey. Good job 😁 love your videos. I don't know if someone already asked it of not i have a good question for you. How i have to calculate the diameter/cyl for my stock injectors bc i don't want to use the car with lean mixture or rich mixture. 1.4L aex vw engine Thank you for the answer.

First, congrats about what u done, but what you did about the idle control valve? I was thinking about do the same as u done with the inlet pressure sensor , I have a Peugeot 306 GTI and thinking about to do this

That's not how long term fuel trim works, the lambda sensor after the cat is only there to make sure the Catalyst is working.

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I have got that but wrong, I did have a much longer section which included catalyst efficiency etc etc but had to cut it down, it just look too long! Guess I cut the wrong bits 🤷‍♂️

Going wideband with the Speeduino should also really help in eeking out every last BHP possible :) I love content like this as I'd love to tinker with this side of engine tuning if I had more time and money.

Hi, just purchased the same filament. What settings do you recommend? Running bed temp at 90, but struggling to get the nozzle temp above 260. Suspect from previous experience needs to be up at closed to 290.

You two look like off brand colin furze and alex from car throttle :D I'm 3D printing mostly from ABS and brush on acetone C6000 on the prints so they get smoother and sealed better, it is also good for sticking it together

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

I wanna know which one is which! 😂

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

I wanna know which is which! 😂

I don't run ICV on my peugeot xu10j4rs, we couldn't figure out why ecu wanted the valve to bo fully opened all the time so I just blocked it. have been running this setup for 3 years now almost daily (apart when there is a salt on the roads) and in cold weather I just need to hold throttle a little bit open for about 30-50 seconds and it idles fine :)

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

Looks like something I don’t need to worry about then 👍

@arran951

2 жыл бұрын

I have also blocked my icv on my starlets Itb set up . It would also never close fully and just leaked in general.

hell yes!

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly!

Well done. ITB's do increase the throttle response, which is always a good thing. Did you notice any difference there?

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

Oh absolutely, off load it was razor sharp and on the road it was noticeably better, but just not having the power means it’s not a massive difference.

Been considering doing this with my c1 using Triumph ITB’s, but I haven’t bothered starting it cos I know I’d never get it finished 🤷‍♀️

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

This only just got finished….

Could you not put a temporary restriction onto the ITBs to help with anything? Or do they not quite work loke that?

Awesome stuff, I tried a similar thing on my car recently after seeing the success you had, but had issues with cf nylon deforming at the bolts after just idling the engine, even though it advertises 150C continuous use temps. I even had metal inserts, but after running the bolts would be loose and would leak coolant and vacuum. Do you have any recommendations on what brand of cf nylon to use?

@MakingforMotorsport

Жыл бұрын

I used the eSun ePa-CF. I had no problems with that on the Fiesta using the metal inserts…

Is it possible to 3D print the throttle bodies themselves? I've thinking about this because i've wanted to put ITB's on my brothers junky Jetta before it goes to the crusher.

Woo first and I'm so happy to see this video!

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

More videos and faster! Hope you enjoy it!

@rotary_rsr9794

2 жыл бұрын

@@MakingforMotorsport love the videos! I'm planning on a similar project soon. Would you mind me contacting you for advice if I get stuck ?

Hi, I've got a Ford Focus with pretty much the same 1.6l zetec engine and i want to install a Speeduino ECU. Do you know if the 3 Pin coilpack is compatible because I always read you need a 4 pin coilpack like on a VW to work. Tx :)

Long term uses front o2 as well. Rear o2 is for cat efficiency control.

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I had pieces in there about the cat efficiency and even more but it turned into half the video. I re-did that whole section and basically chopped it in half because mainly I think people are just in it for the Braaarps! 😂

@runesmDK

2 жыл бұрын

@@MakingforMotorsport we are. But that doesnt mean the tech bits doesnt matter as well 😁👌 i am watching every single one of your videos with great joy.

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

@@runesmDK cheers bud!

Hi Tom

Ever considered using those quick fit connectors for your vacuum plumbing? (The same one used for the bowden cable on your 3d printer)

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

Hmmm… they do airline versions of that (had some on my paintball gun 😂) but it’s probably a bit overkill for this when just a tight fit will do for vacuum….

@ivanae86

2 жыл бұрын

@@MakingforMotorsport I figure it would be easier for 3d printed parts.. those small hose barbs are not sturdy enough, a threaded hole is much easier to print. Anyhoo, great work so far!

just to make sure.. it sounds like that on ITB's *ONLY*, no exhaust changes, right ?

Hi Tom 👋🏻

I got a set of ITBs but not fitted yet as fighting with trying to get the (1.7 Puma) engine running on a Speeduino. Any specific reason why you used a combined air temp/MAP sensor for the inlet air temp instead of using the standard/OEM sensor? I guess the other MAP sensor replaces the MAF sensor? Great work, can't wait until the next video!

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

That is the standard sensor. I think the ecu differs a fair amount to the 1.7, hopefully I may find out as I have one on the garage floor to go in the mini! 👍

Would have been interesting to see what the fuel trims were after driving it for a while.

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I should’ve included it!!! 🤦‍♂️

next episode, home-made big cams... but in all seriousness, I'd love to see the whole works on this car. I'd like to think you could get at least 120 hp out of her with cams, exhaust, port and polish and a map.

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

Home made cams???? Hmmm…. 🤔

@liamholcroft7212

2 жыл бұрын

@@MakingforMotorsport it would be interesting, you do have a lathe after all...

HI TOM!

how does the car not pass mot? can't you do the inspetion from some random shop that basically passes anything? In italy we do it like this

Hi there! Great job! Which material did you use for 3D manifold printing? Thanks.

@MakingforMotorsport

Жыл бұрын

I used eSun ePA-CF filament…

@iliasmetalworks

Жыл бұрын

@@MakingforMotorsport Thanks!

YEAH BOI!! 🤟

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

Completely agree!

Could you have used the injector ports on the throttle bodies for the vacuum leads to the MAP manifold, instead of printing them in on your manifold?

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

I could have! the vacuum take offs I used were already built into the ITBs, but it could be useful to use as them…

HI TOM

Which brand and model of 3D printer did you use to make the inlet manifold?

@MakingforMotorsport

Жыл бұрын

A fairly modded up Creality Ender3. I will be revisiting the printed manifolds in an upcoming video. 👍

Hey! Nice project! My Fiat 16V has the same MAP Sensor. Maybe you can upload your STL for my 3D Printer. Would be nice for my ITB project. Thanks! and if not Thanks too! Love your Videos!

This is great! Seems like the MOT expired, did you get too busy?

@MakingforMotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, just ran out of time, but it’s only a play car so 🤷‍♂️…. MOT booked for Friday 😉