Learning pvm gives me a great deal of respect for those that are good at it.

@NuzzNuzz

3 жыл бұрын

@@ronaszn9728 Why have you commented and watched like five of my rs3 videos then kekw

@munkymittens

3 жыл бұрын

I totally agree! Despite being maxed cb I never bossed and only recently started trying to learn. And wow. You guys make it look so easyyyyy =0

Thanks for making these! As a returning player who really wants to get back into high level pvm this is exactly what I need

Great video! Can't wait to start implementing this myself!

really like the concept of the learning phases. I personally stopped at the half n half phase and find that to be good enough for my gameplay. I use revo for basics, and then keybinds for switchscape basics/thresholds and ultimates + defensive abilities + food + potions. I really didn't like the move to full manual for everything ... it's just more than i personally want to keep up with.

you got my sub. i havne tseen such a succinct guide on learning full manual. tyvm.

Ah yes the reason I will never be able to kill high level bosses lol.

@tonic316

3 жыл бұрын

you can kill high level bosses with revolution

Dude, you and Waswere I absolutely love your guys videos. Small youtubers but the most effort into the videos. I hope you grow a ton while more players join back. I cameback 7 months ago, from a 7 yr break. I got 17 99s since joining back again and also am now maxed. Biggest thing to overcome was for sure PvM but now im finally at Rax/Nex

Thank you so much for this! :) I'm really trying to step my bossing up. I currently do a ton of gwd2/araxxi/etc. But if I ever want to get into duo solak, vorago, and high enrage Telos I really need these tips.

The game changer for me was soloing the Ambassador. it really did force me to switch revo++ and try manual, and it was worth it.

My favorite place to start is slayer. Really helps with learning basics if you aren't comfortable going to a boss yet.

Im a new sub, but funny thing that you've made this video. Im starting to practice full manual. TBH the best boss to practice full manual at is Araxxor. You practice building adren with basics and DPSing as well as defensive abilities with freedom, anticipation, and resonance

@jordanbauerly8843

3 жыл бұрын

Rax is not good to start with. Especially those who are risk adverse, since you can't tele out unless you break combat and lobby. You need something with atleast 200k hp that has mechanics but allows teleportation and isn't likely to one shot you even in the event of no prayer or defensive. I can't take a piss in runescape anymore without paying atleast a mil in upkeep. Its still not out of the question to get murdered by something as low as gwd2 when your stressing over trying not to miss entire gcds worth of ability damage while moving and remembering where the defensive are.

I was just thinking about looking for keybinds and learning full manual yesterday. Its kind of funny to see this video today, but it definitely helped a bit. Now I just need to find keybinds that work for me.

@MainGaimz

3 жыл бұрын

theRSguy has a fantastic keybinds video

@imjustwolf

3 жыл бұрын

@@MainGaimz I've watched it before. I remember it being kind of helpful but also where his hand rests felt uncomfortable to me. Maybe watching it again will help me now that I want to learn full manual.

@MainGaimz

3 жыл бұрын

@@imjustwolf do what feels comfortable for you, just take the concepts. He lays it out super nicely with equivelant abilities for different styles in the same places, alt modifier for defensive a etc

Great video still gonna be a while till i start doing high lvl pvm that requires manual but I will get around to doing it so i can solo a few bosses i never dared to try lol

I learned by lowering the revo bar to 6>4>0 to transition from getting used to keybinds when you want to use bleeds binds and stuns manually. Invest in an mmo mouse to add additional keybinds that may be out of the way like shift and ctrl

@LegDayLas

3 жыл бұрын

I REALLY need a mouse with like 10 thumb buttons on it. Only mice I have ever used are ones with shift up and down keys there (which can be programmed to other functions) but to have a whole array of keys there would make life so easy. My left hand simply put, fucking sucks at gaming, so the more I can have my right doing the better.

@Im_Derks

3 жыл бұрын

@@LegDayLas I recommend razed naga or Logitech g602

Hey, great guide. Kind of an off topic question: How do you get your menu to look like yours?

id recommend hard mode zammy for learning full manual mage. the hardmode mechanics require you to be always moving to avoid and casting abilities at the same time which is good multi tasking practice

@madape556

3 жыл бұрын

The same thing can be said about Legiones because of the hit and run style

I still use revolution, but I press every button manually anyway. I just have revo on if somthing gets sweaty and I need to focus(aka sometimes my rax melee kills).

@kacy6014

2 жыл бұрын

That is a great tip.

Very good guy must watch

Your videos are awesome. I am not subscribed, but that will change soon. I honestly think a good way to practice Full Manual is Arch-Glacor becuz he is a safe death if you end up dying. I learned Full Manual with him, but you are right about one thing. I honestly can't go back to Revolution anymore. I just love Full Manual now.

Great vid man, i've had revo on 5 basics but been activating myself for a couple months now so finally gonna attempt going Full Manual. Quick question for things like Ambassador solos etc, how do you know when its best to switch between Scythe and Dual Drygores as im told you should be attempting to get cleave and decimate into my rotation for higher dps?

@mattk468

3 жыл бұрын

Rsguy has a great melee dps video breaking down best rotation to zerk with switching

How do you keep track of what’s off cooldown so your eyes aren’t glued to your ability bar?

You can setup revolution where it won't do any basics, thresholds, or ultimates as well. You can tick them on and off. Think ill try this by turning off auto basics and ultimates and leaving on threshold auto.

U can right click on the setting icon in your action bar and switch from there, it's very quick.

Getting a MMO mouse helped me a lot. It saves you the hassle of finger acrobatics to reach everything on a keyboard and makes it much easier to remember where everything is. Add to that alt+ and shift+ combinations and you can pretty much do every ability and switch you want with just two fingers.

@wassahap

3 жыл бұрын

A moba mouse typically has only 2 extra side buttons. You mean an mmo mouse?

@Future_Ruben

3 жыл бұрын

@@wassahap Yeah I mean the ones with 12 side buttons. My bad.

idk if im stupid but full manual feel like a rhythm game around the cooldowns, and i cannot for my life focus on the cooldowns of my abilties while prayer switching and focusing on 4 other boss mechanics. Guthix knows i tried

@TerrifyiN_

2 жыл бұрын

At least you tried but I have seen KZread guides killing high level bosses so all hope isn’t lost :p

@PyrelordPazuzu

2 жыл бұрын

Same here. Even on Revo++ I still to tunnel vision so hard I miss something (Tunnel vision on boss attacks I forget to pot up again, or I focus on my timers I stop looking at the boss and take an Ice Cannon to the face, etc)

Doing full manual also requires knowing what abilities are best at each boss. Ive seen videos of people bossing and it scrolls the abilities as they're using them. So what happens if you're getting attacked and not manually firing abilities? Any plans on making a video of doing full manual at a few different bosses? Preferably using range haha

I remember back when EOC first released I did everything full manual. I think it was because revolution had a DPS hit back then. But then I got lazy and haven't used it since lol

Hey nuzz nuzz can we get an updated version of this guide please, as I know you have improved alot and that in sure you know even more now... would be much appreciated, could you tag me in the video aswel please to let me know !!

I afk too much to use full manual lol

I'm not ready for this lol. I have basics on auto and thresholds/ultimate on manual.

@felixvasin758

3 жыл бұрын

I started out using revo now I have slipped into using revo++ 😭

just a question, how come you're dropping your camera movement from wasd? like how do you get around that for bosses? i appreciate the effort you put in the video, thank you for your time! :D

@NuzzNuzz

3 жыл бұрын

Use the middle mouse button (scroll wheel) to move your camera, it will change your life

any one has any recommendations on a video that teaches on rotations and the which abilities to use for each combat style. I cant find any video that talks about this its like people are scared to go into detail on which abilities they use for rotation

@Nuzz Nuzz how you get your avatar to appear on your armor tab?

My biggest problem is the switches: Using switches is way more DPS than full manual. Flanking,lunging, 2h/dw, shield and manual and eating and using limitless is a lot to manage

I understand why so many people quit on the initial eoc update, makes it so much harder to be a casual player, so many bosses are just inaccessible due to such a high skill ceiling

@matthewwick710

3 жыл бұрын

Good. Actually requires skill

@112zombie

3 жыл бұрын

most of the bosses require only the time to learn mechanics, you wont take much damage if you prepare yourself

arch glacor one mechanic be good boss to practise on as well

My main issue is I feel like I have run out of easy key bindings to reach. I use esdf for moving camera (shifted one key to right from wasd) as I can’t get used to using scroll wheel. I have a lot of my important ability on shift+key or control+key which isn’t always optional for quick reactions.

@NuzzNuzz

3 жыл бұрын

I can't imagine playing with keyboard camera controls, I used to use the arrow keys for the camera controls back in the day but I would say to keep trying to get use to the scroll wheel because it really is just amazing to use, the most optimal way for the camera honestly.

@ardechey

3 жыл бұрын

@@NuzzNuzz I might just force myself to get used to that then, thanks for the advice!

@LegDayLas

3 жыл бұрын

first off, didn't know esdf was still a usable funtion in the game, second... how the hell do you find it preferable :D I can see why you would have more trouble then most seeing as you have your camera settings taking up the middle of your keyboard.

@ardechey

3 жыл бұрын

@@LegDayLas Had camera on wasd before but thought I can shift each key one to the right to give me more keybindings around my hand and i can still comfortably reach shift and ctrl.

@lancebloomfield8879

3 жыл бұрын

Not sure if this will be helpful but I've been learning pvm over the last few months. The scroll wheel didn't work for me either, but I've got the razer naga with scroll wheel click mapped to one of the side buttons and I find that's way more comfortable moving my camera

I agree with ambassador being best over magister. Why? Because if you can kill that as your full Manuel cherry popper you can kill anything.

Where do you find dummies to train on?

I mean you should talk about using revo on top of manualing

What you can do is decrease the size of the revolution ability bar to only use e.g 4 basic abilities.

Ive been trying to learn full manual and i understand keybinds and can use my abilities manualy.. but what i dont understand is how to know when to use what ability.. when i do full manual i feel like im just button mashing... any tips for that

@bosh1380

Жыл бұрын

Just know when you'll be able to use your main basic ability without needing to look at ur bar, for example you can use gconc every 3 abilities, that way you can manage your ability cooldowns

Hello! stumbled upon your video- I am wondering what would you use to change camera angle is awsd is replaced as hotkeys? Thanks,

@NuzzNuzz

3 жыл бұрын

Click and hold the middle mouse button

@IaMYip

3 жыл бұрын

@@NuzzNuzz Wow i never knew. thank you. I'm going full manual!

Rota guide plox

Kinda wanna wait for a mouse with numpad for switches first

I wouldn't recommend the Magister. Once you're used to full manual sure. But learning full manual I probably wouldn't

so happy as the man has half the keys keybound lmao

My biggest question with this is just knowing when is the most effective time to use a certain ability and how will I know if it is the most effective

@NuzzNuzz

3 жыл бұрын

So to know this its mostly practice but I plan to make rotation videos showing an ability rotation and you basically take the same rotation and do it over and over again. But not even I get my abilities 100% correct in the right order all the time, just need to practice and do as good as you can. Thresholds and ults are very important, so are basics but if you use a worse basic accidently sometimes its not the end of the world, but its nice to know which should be used.

@John-ft3oe

3 жыл бұрын

@@NuzzNuzz thanks man

my brain really isn't good enough to keep track of ability times. Problem for me with manual is I will constantly assume my ability in off cooldown, then find myself doing nothing at all.

@luukas2499

3 жыл бұрын

It's just practice. You'll get a feel for it and never need to even look at your ability timers

Tbh, this has been a challenge for me. I played RS mostly before EOC. When I returned 2 months ago, I suddenly had so many abilities I didn't know how to use. It felt like I was given a high lvl account for a different game. I made it even harder for myself because I purchased lots of codexes to unlock more skills. I suppose it's back to basics for me - might want to catch 120 slayer to familiarize myself with all the skills in the different combat styles and set optimal keybinds before I go back to bossing

@matiswhetstone3671

Жыл бұрын

@paragonath3637 if you're still wanting to pvm connect with me my Runescape name is MatisTheGod and my clan teaches pvming, they are really patient with every lvl 🙂

i have a question, how do you move your camera without WASD?

@NuzzNuzz

3 жыл бұрын

The middle mouse button, it will help you a TON in PVM. Stop using WASD and start using the middle mouse button to change ur camera, I promise it'll change ur life and open up keybinds.

I’m full manual but I click, but now I’m trying to use keyboard it’s hard lol

@LegDayLas

3 жыл бұрын

idk how that even works? your mouse hand must b accurate af to do all the work.

Flexing that globetrotter, I see your clue achievements there.

Umm what the armor hes using btw?

@dimielgo2267

3 жыл бұрын

Globetrotter

I don't know why i clicked this, I have no intention on learning full manual as I can easily kill all bosses with revo quite effectively while using wasd for camera, but I suppose I am like 95% manual anyhow 37 keybinds and counting lol but here is my view and comment anyhow

@TheCrispyTwinkies

3 жыл бұрын

Congrats?

what area is he practicing at?

@sterlz6565

Жыл бұрын

Late reply, but War's retreat

i hate revolution but full manual is literally impossible for me to learn, ive tried using 1ability then 2 autos attacks another abil then a defence before there spec attack again ive even tried tried spamming abilities, i just dont understand how the combat system works as a rotation it just seem fkin impossible i watch guides all day every day ive read a shit ton of sites and i still cant figure out what im doing wrong

rs always had weird combat for abilities. every other mmo has manual cast, and i don't struggle with it at all. rs has always been point and click to me, so learning how to use abilities has been such a pain. not to mention the click to move grid is really annoying imo when doing combat. if the game had wasd movement and no grid, i think i would be a lot better at pvm already. but i really like afkscape so going away from rev has always been off-putting for me

i use revo, wanna fight me?>>

@NuzzNuzz

3 жыл бұрын

Sure

@sinpayroi6896

3 жыл бұрын

@@NuzzNuzz want to duo ed2 sometime? :o

I use rev but i press every single hability that i use...

@falcorf5242

3 жыл бұрын

Me too. It is also more relaxed but effective at the same time.

@NuzzNuzz

3 жыл бұрын

@@falcorf5242 I agree that a lot of people do this, but when you get into high level PVM this can really mess you up even if you click all your abilities. I for sure reccomend making the switch since you're already 99% using full manual anyways.

I wish so much of the difficulty in rs3 bossing wasn't from garbage controls and unresponsive inputs. I can't seem to get my character to go where I want, when I want, in a timely manor lol. I often get dead clicks, my abilities won't activate when I expect them to, ect ect ect. Been playing a long time. But I just don't think runescape is the game to be asking sharp reflexes of its players, when the game can't even keep up. I know what I'm supposed to do, but getting things to work the way you expect them to is the issue. Finding the timing, dealing with the tick systems and it's quirks, ect ect.

@freakerss

3 жыл бұрын

I hear ya man. I raided high tier WoW for years, the controls and response time of Runescape compared to what I am used to from that is horrendous.

@bobdylan1968

3 жыл бұрын

@Rikirie I have that issue here and there with the fire wall and qbd. I just tank it now because fuck fighting the controls. It just gets frustrating and burns me out.

@bobdylan1968

3 жыл бұрын

@Rikirie its really hard to tell exactly where squares are in rs3 now. It was rather visually obvious before, but with how terrain and the graphics are now, clicking the exact right square is really difficult and annoying as all hell. It seems to honestly be mostly trial and error. Its not Intuitive at all.

@NuzzNuzz

3 жыл бұрын

@@bobdylan1968 I agree with most of this, but the new tile indicators that have a circle where you click are really nice. (Not sure if they are on by default or you need to turn them on) but I really like them and it helps me with positioning.

@bobdylan1968

3 жыл бұрын

@@NuzzNuzz it has definitely helped. I still miss click though. I think having an option to where you can hover that icon over the squares, kinds locking from square to square if that makes sense, would help me not have to click multiple times until I see I hig the right square I intended to.

full manual will only increase dps if you 4 tick (5 tick if super sweaty). personally, i dont 4 tick, and i can still use my abilities manually with revolution active - the revo is really just if i fumble a key and dont get off the threshold i want; revo will do less but at least some damage in those situations.

@NuzzNuzz

3 жыл бұрын

I disagree with the first part, full manual has a lot of benefits increasing your dps by using every ability manually and getting your rotations exactly right. They also have huge benefits with high level pvm in cases where you use defensives and use tons of other things a lot. My DPS has increased dramatically since I started using full manual. Ofcourse if you use revolution and input every single ability the dps will only be slightly better with full manual as it only takes away the error from letting revolution use an ability. I do feel full manual has much more benefits than just DPS though. As for your case, fumbling and not getting a threshold off and having revolution be a crutch, I know thats what a lot of people do, but learning how to use the RIGHT ability in that scenario with full manual is very good as well.

@RyanNoseBest

3 жыл бұрын

@@NuzzNuzz can do all that with revo man... a good revo bar with proper keybinds can do just as much dmg as a manual one. using manual doesnt increase ability damage.

@NuzzNuzz

3 жыл бұрын

Yes but if you click every keybind there is no use in using revolution, except for if you want it as a crutch incase you mess up and let revolution go off, in which case, you will be doing less damage because you will be using a lower priority ability most likely.

Revolution really doesnt impact nearly as much as this guy is claiming. I use revolution because I like knowing that if i get distracted by something my character will keep attacking. Revolution usually only uses the first 1 or 2 abilities on my bar (gconc and dbreath), the rest I do fully manually. I use queueing because manual still doesnt let you input an ability in the first 2 ticks of the gcd, which is INSANELY clunky. Otherwise I still have 400k dpm and I do all of the content in this game with ease. I have a PR at Solak of 6 minutes, I can solo nex in 2:30 sometimes less, I get 5 minute telos kills, 6 minute hm kerapac solos. The only reason you would ever want to use full manual is if you want to learn 4taa.