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@arypramana6154

11 ай бұрын

Can you do a video on how to make custom quests

Primordial has this in the bag. The fact is that it still managed to defeat a full-power Gaismagorm and the Qurio swarm despite being in a severe disadvantage size and number-wise respectively. It's going to dispose of Ruiner with little effort. Just look at what it did to poor Velkhana. He hit her with the nastiest combo of her life. Those black spikes aren't going to do shit against those shield wings considering a Hellfire blast, a spear tail and an ice laser at full blast were shrugged off with no effort. And this isn't like some boosted Malzeno either, this is what they're supposed to be by default. The ones we fought before were weakened by the Qurio, yet it still throws Vekhana and Scorned Magnamalo around. If anything, we were fighting it while it was in a disadvantage due to the Qurio's interference. TL;DR - Primordial wins because it's already succeeding in its goals while dealing with outside interference constantly. Nergigante's species meanwhile can't even clutch a 2-v-1, while Primordial won against a raid boss and Fatalis-knows-how-many Qurios.

@OTBASH

5 ай бұрын

I still remember seeing that turf war. He literally BITCH SMACKS her into the ground. lol

@porgington8971

3 ай бұрын

Yessir

@ProfessionalNamielleLewder69

Ай бұрын

​@@OTBASHExactly. He hit her with the Daigo Parry Supreme followed by the signature Pimp Named Slickback bitchslap wombo combo.

In terms of pure strength and endurance, Ruiner has the edge. In terms of finesse, dexterity and speed Primordial has the edge.

@ceoofjeanneism6777

11 ай бұрын

Primordial has strength it defeated Gaismagorm

@JudeEaley

11 ай бұрын

It also has endurant wingd

@emeraldawesome2420

11 ай бұрын

But lore-wise, there have been discussions over whether ruiner nerg is immortal because of the end of iceborne

@brettz5288

11 ай бұрын

​@@ceoofjeanneism6777And Ruiner has strength to kill Shara Ishvalda who's >> Gaismagorm.

@brettz5288

11 ай бұрын

​@@emeraldawesome2420What do you mean immortal? Can you explain? I might have missed something

Lorewise I'd give this one to Prime Malzeno. While both of them are capable of beating elder dragons that are more threatening, Malzeno handles Gaismagorm all by itself which is more impressive than Nergi finishing Shara after waiting it to be worn out. Malzeno also naturally posseses dragon element which gives it the edge.

@yoooo790

11 ай бұрын

Didn't Nergigante take on both Teo and luna?

@yoooo790

11 ай бұрын

I'm pretty sure he did.

@KPlaysHere

11 ай бұрын

​​@@yoooo790e tried to jump an already very injured Teo, and as soon as Luna showed up she drove him off. Not...not the best example to bring up if you ask me.

@yoooo790

11 ай бұрын

@KPlaysHere injured? You mean the Teo that was sleeping, then woke up to the approaching nergigante? Yeah, that 1min really shows an injured Teo! You're stupid, asf. Go back and watch it again. Update that weakass observation of yours.

@rohangardiner

11 ай бұрын

​@@yoooo790I'm pretty sure he tried to 3rd party a weak teo and got scared off easily

Im gonna have to give this to Primal Mal tbh because while the hp at the end showed Nergi being slightly higher, you gotta remember P. Mal didnt even go into his final phase yet. If hes in final phase form he tears apart these EDs far faster.

@zorro8027

11 ай бұрын

Tbf Nerg’s final phase is also when he’s about to die. He didn’t do the “end all be all” roar that he normally does at like 30% hp.

@WiseFatOwl

11 ай бұрын

The same for nergi too. He's got a suicidal phase when his health goes dangerously low that makes him a lot more cracked at the end. Which didn't happen here

@mr.knight447

11 ай бұрын

I Agree

@kokotomenance344

9 ай бұрын

Not only that, Velkhana is a lot stronger in Sunbreak than Iceborne. That’s why it put it a way better fight compared to the other two elders when up against Primordial

Primordial Malzeno going into phase 2 just as Velkhana's super move goes off was badass.

For me, it’s Primordial. Even if they are equals, I personally prefer the archangel knight more than the metallic hedgehog (lorewise and and fightwise). Ruiner stayed under some rocks waiting for us to weaken Shara, while Primordial faces Gaismagorm head on along with the Qurio swarms.

@dragonburburlingame9032

11 ай бұрын

That's a good point, he wasn't in his final form even once and he got that close to ruiner's level

@airoc8270

11 ай бұрын

@@dragonburburlingame9032 he don't have a real final form bc this final stage is just for the one we fought in the story, the individual that's been attacked by the qurios. This means that he actually defeat gaismagorn with his first phase

@glitch_videos122

11 ай бұрын

Well Nergi was weaken as well to the point of being knocked out from the fight with hunter, and got dragged down by Shara

@eren7kruger129

11 ай бұрын

​​​@@glitch_videos122 Ruiner Nergigante has the enhanced regeneration. Shara doesn't have that. Plus physically strong monsters are particulary dangerus when they ambush.

@glitch_videos122

11 ай бұрын

@@eren7kruger129 yeah, he may have enhanced regeneration. But Shara appeared right after Nergi was knocked out. Nergi’s regen isn’t that fast. He still need to take a rest for a while. Plus Hunter beat Shara just minutes or hour at best. It was already impressive that he was able to regen within that time

Nobody has the answer between us, but if we try to follow the lore, technically Nergigante is built by the ecosystem to kill other elder dragons when they are too much, so, it needs to be a lot stronger then other elders to literally eat them, Malzeno probably included. Furthermore, as the wiki says, only its presence is capable of scare the fuck out of the elders causing them to invade other territories in order to not cross Nergigante, moreover, it's attracted by large amounts of bioenergy, which it needs (a lot) to reproduce, attacking extremely powerful monsters to feed itself to do that. On the other hand the wiki attribute to Malzeno the only purpose in nature to keep in check the qurio, and as we can see, not fulfulling the task. There's not really something to say about Malzeno, except that it is just stronk. I like both honestly, but until the devs speaks clear we can just fantasize/hypothesize about it.

@yikkizh_2694

11 ай бұрын

I thought it was well established that Nerg is a scavenger, not an actual elder hunter who comfortably 1v1s other elders. And for someone who claims to be 'a lot' stronger than other elders, a regular Bazel sure gave him a lot of trouble.

@madeleinegamy7267

11 ай бұрын

That is just a head canon the real reason for why nergi hunts elders is for their bio energy as stated by the lore book and the developers.

@eren7kruger129

11 ай бұрын

Nergigante is absolutely not a lot more powerful than other elders. He is just built/evolved in a way that counters them by being relentless and having more physical strenght than most of them. Espinas is very well able to defeat Kushala Daora in combat, however in it's own it's not clearly a stronger monster. It has the edge over Kushala because it has adaptations that happen to counter it. Nergigante starts to have a harder time when facing monsters that have a lot of physical strenght, as he's better at facing monsters that rely more to elements like fire. Savage Deviljho in the Iceborne lorebook is stated to be equal in power to Ruiner Nergigante after all. Malzeno infact is a different story than most other elders because he is not a element based dragon like Teostra

@devilbananalol2800

11 ай бұрын

@@eren7kruger129 Source for deviljho ? The lorebook doesn't mention anything like that

@olp3850

11 ай бұрын

​@@yikkizh_2694bazelgeuse didn't give runiner too much trouble. Bazel did drop bombs on him but nergigante took care of that relatively quickly

This is a really interesting comparison between 2 monsters from different MH games! Would you do other comparisons like this in the future? I hope you do 😊

This was a fun video, comparing these two new fan favorites. If they were to ever actually meet, I think Ruiner is stronger than Primordial until the qurio come in. The raw brutality and strength of a Nergigante is just unmatched. Primordial may be a bit smarter though and is way more agile so it definitely has more than a chance if it plays it right. If Qurio get involved though Primordial just becomes a different more savage and relentless beast, so it'll just become hard for Nergiante to keep up.

@MonsterSlayerSquad

11 ай бұрын

thanks, I think Primordial speed will really give ruiner a difficult time, but who knowns how the qurio might react when up against ruiner; we possibly might see a risen ruiner 😨

@eren7kruger129

11 ай бұрын

​@@MonsterSlayerSquad very unlikely that Nergigante would be able to turn Risen before the fight ends anyways.

@eren7kruger129

11 ай бұрын

Ruiner Nergigante strenght is definetly matched by Savage Deviljho, who in Iceborne lorebook is stated to be equal in power with.

@silentprotagonist3786

11 ай бұрын

​@@eren7kruger129monsters like SavageJho or FuRajang can match Ruiner only in bursts of power, SavageJho gets weak when hungry and FuRajang cannot keep up its red arm mode forever. On the other hand Ruiner can maintain such power indefinitely without any percussions.

Interesting results overall. Ruiner Nergigante has always been a kind of middling opponent in Monster-vs-Monster fights in Iceborne, but Sunbreak's trio are much more formidable on average. Seems like their prowess was just that much better than Ruiner Nergigante's lackluster-ness. Definitely would like to see the damage numbers on how these fights went down, though.

@funjukebox1324

11 ай бұрын

The trio in sunbreak is definitely easier than in World bruh loool...the only argument is that maybe Teostra is on par in either game or slightly harder in Sunbreak but that's about it loool

@funjukebox1324

11 ай бұрын

Velkhana and Kushala are definitely way more tame in Sunrise easily..

@GunlessSnake

11 ай бұрын

@@funjukebox1324 Easier to fight for players? Yes. But not when it comes to Monster-vs-Monster fights! They have longer combos, more multi-hit attacks, and better DPS against other Monsters.

@GunlessSnake

11 ай бұрын

@@funjukebox1324 As far as fighting them as players? Yeah. But in Monster-vs-Monster fights, the rules are quite different! In Sunbreak, they have some amazingly strong combos, multi-hit attacks, and in general better DPS against one another than in Sunbreak.

@brettz5288

11 ай бұрын

More formidable? 😂💀 Yeah fucking right

Here's a horrific thought for everyone: Arch Tempered Primordial Malzeno(MHWI's hunter speed and fight length in Rise, and many moves become unblockable with shield weapons along with some new Arch Tempered esque mechanic like a new AT Nergigante style harder to dodge move or AT Velkhana's frost armor) and Risen Ruiner Nergigante(MHRS's monster speed, Risen ultimate move like Risen Val's ult, and lack of clutch claw+slinger moves in World)

I think the fight between ruiner and primordial would be sort of even until primordial goes into his final stage and starts popping off ults and 8 hit combos.

@MonsterSlayerSquad

11 ай бұрын

yeah primordial is just nuts in his final phase, would love to see how ruiner can counter those aoes

gameplay wise it has to be P. Malzeno, that lad is relentless when it's enraged

@eren7kruger129

11 ай бұрын

Gameplay wise also Primordial Malzeno wins against Velkhana (important also in lore anyways), while Ruiner Nergigante ties

@silentprotagonist3786

11 ай бұрын

​@@eren7kruger129 Nergigante literally got chokehold on Velkhana, Velkhana only escapes by a surprise attack to it's face

Interesting fight. My personal favorite is nergi

Those two have the same roll. They’d both be equal matches if they went up against each other.

Ruiner just wasn’t designed as an endgame monster. It’s more comparable to Scorned Magnamalo. A better monster to compare to Primordial Malzeno is AT Velkhana. I’ll also mention Velkhana is scaled way higher in Sunbreak than in Iceborne

So satisfying seeing World Kushala get dunked out of the air like that.

in terms of the video, ruiner had a handicap of taking 10% damage from turfwars each round and primordial didnt and yet im pleasantly surprised that ruiner survived with a higher precentage

@yaroslavromanyuk5669

11 ай бұрын

Thank you! At least someone understands how turf wars work.

@htfs493

10 ай бұрын

I mean that’s true but the other elders also took similar amount of damage proportionally.

@yaroslavromanyuk5669

10 ай бұрын

@@htfs493 Imagine if you had a turf war with a mosquito. You slap a mosquito for 10% damage and the mosquito slaps you for 10% damage. 10 mosquitoes would kill you, which wouldn't happen if you fought them normally.

6:55 the Dodging my guy

Ruiner Nergi is like a berserker while Primal Mail is like a knight both are skilled and fierce, but I guess it just depends on who can endure the most

@mr.knight447

11 ай бұрын

I agree on that, this is just my opinion, the more health ruiner nergi loses the harder his spikes become ormore grow and since ruiner spikes are connected to his bones, this should mean ruinermight become more bloodhirsty and durable and have more striking power, making him more deadlier in the process, he could also shoot out spikes whenever he actually wants to, its jsut my opinion.

@DembiBrox

11 ай бұрын

@@mr.knight447 No you’re right also he hunts elder dragons, so although Primordial Mail would put up quite a fight Ruiner Nergi could still take him and I’m not just saying that just because he’s my favorite monster

@mr.knight447

11 ай бұрын

@@DembiBrox i agree, when theres someone better then the other, we should agree to it, you get my point. I might be wrong tho but ruiner nergigante is actually more powerful than shara ishvalda, how shara was terrified when ruiner nergigante reappered also ruiner nergigante was not hiding from shara, its more the other way around, shara as hiding from ruiner nergigante so that the hunter can kill him, so shara could bury him and start to rain chaos, i could be wrong tho, but of how shara acted against ruiner nergigante and was terrified by him, its safe to asume that ruiner nergigante is more powerful then shara.

@DembiBrox

11 ай бұрын

@@mr.knight447 Maybe but even if he is not Nergigantes in in general, have a nag on hunting down monsters, who are much bigger and more powerful than them take a look at Zorah Magdaros from monster, hunter world and Oltura from stories 2 those monsters, have Nergigonte outmatched and outsized as did Shar probably yet they hunt and challenge them why I’m not too sure maybe because they see them as a threat to the environment or they just like a challenge we may never know.

@mr.knight447

11 ай бұрын

I agree, we would have to wait in the next genaration of mh, maybe we will see it happen, who knows?

10:56 Nice move

Hey I used the part of the vs of the velkhana against the Primordial malzeno and I edited it but I gave you credits.

6:53 really cool moment 👍 Also by looking at this, we can say that they are both equal ( both have pretty much the same % of HP at the end ) however i think lorewise, Primordial Malzeno have the edge for defeating Gaismagorm. Also the gameplay mechanics added in rise such as the elemental blight ( such as the ice blight that slowed down Malzeno during his fight against Velkana ) and the fact that Malzeno have animation where it try to fight Qurio and don't do anything ( meant to create a window to help the palyer fighting him ), make me think that Primordial Malzeno is the strongest because without those issues he would have won easily ( he was ahead until Velkana's fight )

I think if we look at this lore wise there are 2 different versions of this fight, with quiro and without quiro Without quiro I think ruiner takes this fight, ruiner is built to take down other elemental elders so between his brute strength, stature, deadly spikes and regen he's got this and primordial malzeno on his own doesn't really have anything special up his sleeve other then the fact he's faster and more agile but that's the case for most elders ruiner fights, With qurios is a more Intresting thing to discuss, do the qurios also attack nergigante? Does nergigante get a go when primordial is trying to resist the qurios, does primordial malzeno execpt the qurios? Lot of different things to consider with qurios

Now I wanna see nergigante vs malzeno now...

Since the Qurio were Gaismagorms thing & have been dealt with other Primordial Malzeno, or just 'Malzeno' as the varient is actually the original Monster, wouldn't have access to the symbiotic benefits or additional power granted by the afflicted state the Primordial we fight enters. So putting any and all Qurio related abilities in a box we're left with base Primordial anatomy & abilities. • It's still agile & fast though no unable to morb like it's Quriod counterparts. At it's base still makes him more mobile than nergi by comparison, nergis at his fastest during his divebomb but doesn't shine as being notably fast at any other point or attack, whereas base Primalzeno is fast enough to stull pull off multicombos. This info in mind makes more Primo more mobile than Nergi overall imo, putting a point in Primalzenos corner. • It has very tough skin/scales which allow it to use its wings like shields, no doubt this extends to other parts of his body too, which Nergis spikes atleast at their least dense stage I think would have trouble piercing, though his hardened silver & black spikes may just break that defence if used aggressively enough, that along with Nergis fast regeneration & hardening of these spikes I think puts a point in Nergis corner on this one. • Primalzeno fights with a knightactics, using his wings like a sword & shield & his tail like a spear, pairing this intelligent offensive & defensive style with his agile & aggressive movement I believe definitely gives him an initial advantage or Nergis rock 'em sock 'em very brutish & barbaric style. (A Knight vs Viking kinda vibe goin on here) Again with Nergis impressive regenerative capabilities I personally think that pairing this with his combat style is the equaliser here, otherwise Primalzeno would have the advantage outright. So both of them get a point in their corners here. • Though its scales make for a great defense, Primalzeno is more of a slender beast as opposed to Nergis more bulky thiccboi nature, obviously this plays into the mobility of either monster however I do believe that with nergis considerable Brute strength, if he gets a good pin on Primalzeno he could cause some serious breakage beneath the hide or even tear apart membrane from wing or even wing from torso. This however might prove a difficult stratagem just due to how much quicker Primalzeno is. • My final point is their lifestyles, we know Primalzenos territory is the citadel so we can gather it'll fend off Elder & none Elder alike if it must, as for it's diet it hasn't been noted to eat any too significant, but as it can easily keep the likes of a Rathalos caught between it's jaws it's safe to say large monsters are on the menu so it would contend with them regularly. Nergi however, eats Elder Dragons. Elder Dragons are a whole other ball game to most of your large monsters & nergi is known to hunt down, kill & eat them on a regular basis & doesn't seem to discriminate as to size or species, and it eats particularly powerful ones at that given Nergi originates out of The New World where the oldest, most experienced & as a result, most powerful elder Dragons go to live their last & die. This dietary information along with the sheer breadth of threats it entails, I believe puts this last point in Nergis corner, especially Ruiner Netgi which has to have slain & eaten many an Elder Dragon, giving it more varied battle experience. Ruiner Nergigante vs Primordial Malzeno (NOT Quriously morbed) Ruiner Nergigante wins high diff. Ruiner Nergigante vs Primordial Malzeno (Quriously Morbed) Primordial Malzeno wins high diff.

@teacupbirb4711

11 ай бұрын

Fair analysis. I would argue for P.Mal by saying that it fended off Gaismagorm w/o aid of the Qurio, who was more than capable of destroying incredibly massive chunks of land (as evidenced by Sunbreak's titular crater) just as part of its natural life cycle. How powerful is Gais is up to debate. Some say he's 1st-Class, some say he's a little below (in the upper-most echelons of Elder Dragons). Both rankings of which equate to or overshadow Shara, whom of which Ruiner killed a weakened specimen of (just fought a hunter, so not at peak strength). Thusly, it is uncertain if Ruiner could handle a peak Shara. Additionally, the Malzeno who snatched a Rathalos out of the sky is likely significantly weakened by prolonged exposure to Qurio. If you look at both models of P.Mal and Malzeno, you may notice how Malzeno seems frailer and more atrophied than the more robust P.Mal. It appears almost as if the Qurio slowly deteriorate their host even after an apparent symbiotic match. So the physical prowess of Malzeno likely does not equal P.Mal's. Thusly, it isn't out of the realm of possibility that P.Mal can eat the occasional Elder that enters its domain given how handily P.Mal batters Velkhana in their turf war. However, the Elder Dragons in the New World are notably powerful ones/ones on the verge of death (don't remember exactly which). The New World, lore-wise, is a gathering point for such Elders, meaning its ecosystem is very well saturated in them. Nergs, both standard and Ruiner, regularly hunt these particular specimens. So they DEFINITELY have more experience dealing with Elders. However, both have likely haven't crossed paths (or at least from what we know), so they aren't likely to be privvy to how each fight. This could give as much an edge to Ruiner as it can to P.Mal. Ruiner is unrelenting aggression whilst P.Mal revolves around well-spaced barrages. P.Mal would assail Ruiner from a range it would have issue contesting against, but the moment Ruiner could get close, it can very well do massive damage. It is hard to say. However, I personally believe P.Mal would come out of the scrap based upon its handling of Gaismagorm. If there is any info I missed or am wrong about, please do let me know. Good day.

@Cap_The_Captain

11 ай бұрын

@teacupbirb4711 Taking Gaismagorm into account we know PMal fended off Gaismagorm & reppeled it to the depths but failed to kill it outright, Gaismagorm though huge & wuth a breadth of abilities at it's disposal is certainly lumbering & slow & putting Primalzeno against as a size difference Primalzeno is still quite large itself, but has a massive amount of mobility also on it's side meaning it would have an easier time evading & darting around Gaismagorms movements etc. I also think given that Primalzeno gains access of a breadth of new qurio abilities mid fight with us, a similar occurrence will have likely happened in Primalzenos fight with Gaismagorm also, aiding in it's victory over it in a twist of fate on Gaismagorms part, it's own weapon being turned against it. As for Ruiner Nergi vs Shara I do think it has a good shot of defeating it, as we know the Hunter hunted both that Ruiner Nerg & Shara, leaving both of them in weakened states, Ruiner Nerg even out cold after our fight with it & seemingly consumed by the crumbling earth around it. It displayed intelligence enough that we know it was following Shara, waiting for it to surface at some point so we can gather he can't do much while Shara is covered in it's earthly mantle, but during the cutscene post us defeating Shara, he take the opportunity to strike & take the killing blow. Now I certainly don't think he fully regenerated after our fight with him so even then he himself was in a weakened state, asserted dominance before us then flew off elsewhere as though he was healthy enough to do so. So I think a healthy Ruiner vs a healthy (unmantled) Shara would be a fight more or less in his favour, as just like Gaismagorm, Shara isn't the most agile of beasts. So when it comes to Ruiner vs base Primordial I'm still in the camp that Ruiner would take a win most of the time, just not without difficulty. But would definitely in most cases lose to a Quriod Primordial. A fight between then aside though I'm still Qurious about the Qurios xD Their obviously a seperate species to Gaismagorm. We know Gaismagorm apparently used to be a monster capable of flight, and it has eyes so it's not a creature born subterranean. The Qurio don't have eyes indicating that they are born subterranean, lacking a need for them like Khezu. So my imagining & im sure most other peoples too is that Gaismagorm was also in a forced symbiosis with them & thusly retreated to the underground where the Qurio originate from & just like Malzeno, its body deteriorated overtime into what is now. I wonder if a 'Primordial' Gaismagorm of sorts under fresh symbiosis would be even more powerful than the one we fight, similar to how Primordial Malzeno is much stronger than Malzeno. Now that's a Monster I'd like to see! The Qurio are both leech & lampray-like creatures too so I do wonder what would happen if they achieved symbiosis with a Nergigante, would the symbiosis completely counteract or nullify Nergis natural regeneration or would it somehow work in tandem with it? 🤔 Could it turn out to be a perfect symbiosis or just another Risen situation? I may draw this in concept, it sounds pretty cool!

@teacupbirb4711

11 ай бұрын

@@Cap_The_Captain Interesting. We also have to consider the sheer might that would come from forcing Gaismagorm underground. As we saw in Sunbreak, it took a barrage of dragonators, ballistae, and cannonfire before being pushed off by a well-placed explosive dragonator. So P.Mal might have some considerable physical might behind his lankier frame. Not as much physical might as Ruiner, but enough to perhaps wrestle itself out of Ruiner's grip every now and then. Ruiner's regen is definitely a massive hurdle. At times it seems instant, and at other times it seems it takes time. Not exactly sure where the limit on its regen lies, given that Nergs allegedly reproduce by the spikes that get stuck in the ground. That implies a crazy regeneration ability akin to characters like Hulk or Wolverine. A Qurio-Nerg union, I feel, would essentially make a Nergigante with incredible physical might, but a hindered/slowed regen as it fights against the Qurio eating away at it. It could be shown with the spikes growing slower, or not growing at all. Instead, the Nergigante gets the Furious Rajang treatment where its ferocity and strength is amped up to 11. The notion of a Gaismagorm given flight is an intriguing idea given Gaismagorm's appearance is more or less based upon the Devil. So a flight-based Gais could be representative of Lucifer Pre-Fall. Something like a Seraphic Gaismagorm sounds like a fun fight. Liking this conversation here. Good day.

@eren7kruger129

11 ай бұрын

Nergigante is mostly built in a way that gives him advantages against element based monsters, like Teostra. It doesn't mean however that it's a lot of stronger than them on it's own right. To account that Iceborne lorebook states that Savage Deviljho is equal in power to Ruiner Nergigante

So is Primordial Malzeno a similar case with Nergigante where he relies on pure force rather than an element?

@BoneReaperLagiallosaurus

11 ай бұрын

Yes

@ceoofjeanneism6777

11 ай бұрын

Yes

@wellbornthrower596

11 ай бұрын

Yes but has more speed and finesses on his side, and brutal aggression too.

@mavericksantos998

11 ай бұрын

Nergi is brute force all the way. P.Malzeno uses mastery and skill.

@wellbornthrower596

11 ай бұрын

@@mavericksantos998 well not just brute force but quite a bit of endurance as well if you remember his encounter with shara ishvalda.

Honestly the two of them are top tier elders. I would say a battle between the two could go either way. Both of ‘hunt’ elders above their weight class and both are plenty strong for any opponent. There a few ‘true elders’ that could match these two. The only two that I think could lore and possible gameplay is shagaru and velkhana

@eren7kruger129

11 ай бұрын

Shagaru is a questionmark on that regard yes, but definetly not Velkahana who gets rekt by Primordial Malzeno in the turf war

@silentprotagonist3786

11 ай бұрын

​@@eren7kruger129 Velkhana was done dirty by the devs ngl

Primordial Mal is literally a Frontier level elder dragon

Primzeno: Skilled Knight with years of experience Ruiner: Absolute crackhead

people are going on about primezeno and ruiner, but what about the fact velkhana got so far it took a fair chunk out of both of their healths (to be fair so did teostra, he’s also pretty damn underestimated) and considering how extravagantly low it’s hp was compared to theirs

I can’t wait for the day modders figure out how to port monsters from one to the other.

God I forget how much I like Ruiner. Not as much as Primordial but Ruiner is still a beast!

Primezeno! He may have finished at less overall health percentage, but he took the first two dragons out at higher percentages then nergi. It was also only a two percentage hp difference at the end, I feel like overall primezeno did better. (I may also be biased, I think he's a way cooler monster then nergi, paladin knight dragon goes *hard*)

@yaroslavromanyuk5669

11 ай бұрын

Nergigante took 30% free flat damage from turf wars.

Wow, did the Primordial Malzeno won or not because it looks like he won.

I hope we get a subspecies for velkhana that evolved to freeze large monsters down the bone

I pray to Gog we see these two duke it out in the next title

Shouldn't this be Malzeno vs Velkhana or scorned magna vs ruiner nergi?

Damn, before looking at the comments I didn’t know people hated ruiner this much (it could be decency bias but idk)

@Aoryen

11 ай бұрын

Definitely recency bias, even looking at the lore. Nobody even acknowledges that primordial malzeno's final phase is reached when the qurio are draining the life out of it. A normal primordial malzeno wouldn't even have qurios, the one we see is just the one from the story that had its home invaded by a gaismagorm. That and people are calling ruiner stupid because it couldn't kill shara, when it chose not to because it knew it would waste energy on it when it could just have the hunters weaken shara for it.

@Tahiti_mangos

11 ай бұрын

@@Aoryen I have a theory on the final phase of primordial malzeno and I think that phase is him overcoming the quiro similarly to the risen elders, he also has orange parts on his body that resemble risen elders, anyway though besides the lore thing I think people are also just forgetting how ruiner A.) killed a bazelgeuse without any wounds B.) was able to get through shara’s skin with one bite and C.) just overall, his moveset + metal spikes are really cool (also base nergi can tank a lunastra supernova without any injuries so ruiner is likely very VERY strong)

@eren7kruger129

11 ай бұрын

Still Primordial Malzeno wins against Velkhana without the qurio, and Ruiner Nergigante is mentioned to be equal to Savage Deviljho in the Iceborne lorebook. It's not that people hate Nergigante, but that they are annoyed to who consistenly overstimates Nergi power like it's Goku or something

@Tahiti_mangos

11 ай бұрын

@@eren7kruger129 don’t get me wrong I do think primordial wins but the fact that half the comments are just dissing nergi is annoying to me cuz Ik half the people who dissed him probably used to love him when iceborne was still relevant

@thierrycarlow3810

11 ай бұрын

​@@eren7kruger129Different game turf war mechanics. Stop trying to bullshit

White Knight vs Berserker Pick your protagonist

@MonsterSlayerSquad

11 ай бұрын

both

funny thing is primorbius is literally not a variant it's the original. Also nergi's gonna get shieldbashed. before nergi the only elder dragons that aren't siege fights that you could call physical is shaggy and his big wingarms.

Wow, Kushala got DESTROYED! His attacks barely did any damage. That fills me with immense joy, as I have an intense hatred for Kushala in general. His World version was abysmal. You couldn't hit him half the time because of that stupid wind aura! Don't even get me started on the tornadoes he loves so much...

Even though Nergi ended up with 2%more HP left at the end, Malz killed the 2 first elders faster comparatively. To me it only shows that Velkhana was able to damage Malz more in its Rise version. I would give it to Malz, who didn't even reach its final form.

@EdvinGusmari-iw5ow

10 ай бұрын

Neither did ruiner didya forget the little mode he has when he goes to somethin near 30% hp?

@Its_Alxce

6 ай бұрын

Also most of the damage come from turf wars which are percentage based

I’ve already said it could go either way, the amount of hate I received for that comment was crazy. The game devs have already confirmed both are high tier elders.

荒々しさと重厚さの戦いですね。異なるようで両者の持ち味は同じく力であることには違いありません。早く両者を同作品で比べたいものです。

it seems that in terms of health percent at the end of each fight, Primordial Malzeno wins, 2-1

使い回しの縄張り争いのせいでネギが体力削られてるけど、それなかったら圧勝じゃん

This is not even a debate. The primordial malzeno wins with mid difficulty

Is it just me or did kushala doara shrink in his turf war against nergi xD

Definitely ruiner Nergigante. He's literally Wolverine after the weapons X program, and the more he kills, the stronger he gets.

@ultra5051

11 ай бұрын

thats a nice argument senator, why dont you back it up with a source

@zorro8027

11 ай бұрын

@@ultra5051 It’s not necessarily “the more he kills the stronger he gets” But it has been confirmed Nerg’s regen extends past his spikes in Stories 2, and in world it’s confirmed he grows stronger the more damage he takes; to a point where he fights in a way that indict self harm so he grows more powerful at a greater rate. Then he heals the damage. Which is why he is a rival to primordial Malzeno, who also has insane abilities.

@Leviathan1000

11 ай бұрын

@@ultra5051 Well, as it states in its lore. Countless battles have only hardened to become stronger and are only rivalled by other variants elder dragons and larger elder dragons. Hopefully, in MH6, It will expand more on Nergigante evolving. He was made to balance nature.

@eren7kruger129

11 ай бұрын

​@@Leviathan1000"only rivalled by other variants elder dragons". Somewhat you forgot that Primordial Malzeno is tecnically considered a variant, and still it's stronger than "regular" Malzeno. And anyways for the Iceborne lorebook, Savage Deviljho and Ruiner Nergigante are equal power wise

@Leviathan1000

11 ай бұрын

@@eren7kruger129 I'm well aware of that, my friend. Iceborne was gonna expand more on ruiner Nergigante and the others into the arch tempered forms, but because of fatalis, we never got that, unfortunately.

Physical strength goes to ruiner Speed goes to primordial Endurance goes to primordial Abilities goes to primordial Weaponry goes to primordial Intenigence is tied Battle iq can go either way since primordial won against giasma and ruiner waited for shara to be weak Element goes to primordial (if i remember correctly primordial gives dragon sometimes Ailment goes to primordial Primordial wins very high difference

@thierrycarlow3810

10 ай бұрын

How does endurance goes to primordial. And Ruiner. Was literally buried under an island... not waiting for shara to be slayed. You belive primordial who only made giasmagorm retreat said through WORDS is all that yet a cannon cutscene of ruiner killing a shara ishvalda is questionable. Ruiner wins this.

@Worst_gameplay_ever

10 ай бұрын

@@thierrycarlow3810 Endurance goes to primordial because ruiner gets exhausted super fast when fighting him, and ruiner did 0% of the work when fighting shara, plus primordial fought giasma and won so hard that giasma had to go dig a hole to sit in for several years

@YourOrdinaryNecromancer234

9 ай бұрын

Give endurance to ruiner

@YourOrdinaryNecromancer234

9 ай бұрын

Health should go to primalzeno

well, hazard primordial Malzeno will turn into his final vampire form much earlier, hazard version will make quick work of Nerg for sure

@rohanthomas6629

11 ай бұрын

Then we need Tempered Ruiner to somewhat even it out.

@awakenedzero4174

11 ай бұрын

@@rohanthomas6629 what really matters here is Malzeno's final phase, 11 combo in a row, that is something all versions of Nerg can't compete with , and hazard Malzeno enters this phase at about 50% HP, not like the usual near death period

We could say that Nergigante would beat Gaismagorm in battle right?

@Turkenberglol

11 ай бұрын

Very much doubt it. Qurio alone would eat nerg alive if not gaisma would just nuke the dude

@zorro8027

11 ай бұрын

@@Turkenberglol Unlikely; game devs already confirmed Nerg would destroy Shara on his own, the hunters interfered. Plus Nerg’s regen would cancel out the effect of the Quiro.

@madeleinegamy7267

11 ай бұрын

@@zorro8027your acting like shara is a equal to gaismagorm which he is not he would honestly get bodied by gaismagorm. And it takes lots of time to get over the anomaly you do know gaismagorm would be attacking Nergi when he is trying to get over the infection I doubt he can get over the affliction when he being attacked bye extremely strong attacks like meteoroids accept not really and a nuke. And where did they confirm nergi is stronger then shara. Can you provide a link to it or the name.

@airoc8270

11 ай бұрын

Nergi only uses pure strength. Gaismagorn has too much physical power than Nergi and also beams, explosions and the qurios How the hell Nergi or Ruiner will be able to defeat Gaisma? Malzeno could bc he can block attacks, is fast and attack with powerful and calculated attacks

@devilbananalol2800

11 ай бұрын

@@madeleinegamy7267 they did not confirm it, this is a headcannon interpretation from the lorebook stating that "Aside from Nergigante, Shara Ishvalda has no natural predator, that's why his rock shell is not actually a defense mechanism."

Who claims Silver against Lucent?

Gut > Griffith.

I love Nergigante so Nergigante.

Bruh "iconic elder dragon" velkhana... Chameleos is the third iconic elder dragon

@magnabueno5360

11 ай бұрын

I think they put Velkhana because it is in both Iceborne and Sunbreak, for a fair comparison.

@fire_blast9748

11 ай бұрын

@@magnabueno5360 yeah i understand but please do not say "iconic" haha

Here's the thing tho one must consider malzeno without qurio as the qurio on it are unnatural.

ruiner nergigante win if you ask me , this thing is absolute defense but at same time freaking killing machine...eventho malzeno is my favourite i think without qurio enhancement hes not that strong

@airoc8270

11 ай бұрын

Bruh what's that he isn't that strong. He defeated Gaismagorn without the qurios meanwhile Nergi couldn't do anything to Shara without the hunter

@Aoryen

11 ай бұрын

@@airoc8270 Ruiner nergigante let the hunters kill shara ishvalda for it. Ruiner wasn't even fighting shara when the hunters got there, and was probably waiting for it. When the hunters wore down ruiner it decided to play dead and let them kill shara for it. Once it realized it had an opportunity to not expend extra energy when it didn't have to, it took it. Meanwhile the malzeno species is getting annihilated by qurios and this primordial malzeno is the sole member that we see resist them, and only WITH the hunter's help.

@eren7kruger129

11 ай бұрын

​​@@Aoryen your argument with Primordial Mlazeno and Qurio is literally self made speculation. Do you somewhat forgot that in the intro Primordial Malzeno massacres a bunch of Qurio effortlessy? Also Primordial Malzeno gets attacked by the Qurio after that when the hunters are attacking him at the same time.

@Aoryen

11 ай бұрын

@@eren7kruger129 How the hell is killing flying leeches impressive? It even needed help from the hunters to stop the qurio from taking over itself

@thierrycarlow3810

11 ай бұрын

​@@airoc8270except he didn't even defeat giasmagorm. Gaismagorm just didnt think it was worth the energy.

Primordial.

Nergigante

Ruiner takes it handily in pure strength and raw power and probably ferocity as well. Primordial Malzeno has a larger number of weapons and utilizes it's body more like a focused weapon and shield along with teleportation and weaponized Quiro beams 😂💀 It's hard to say. They're two large monsters with bodies like metal. I'd say primordial smokes regular Nergigante but get broken by Ruiner Nergigante.

@eren7kruger129

11 ай бұрын

There is no way that Primordial would easly win against normal Nergi and get destroyed by Ruiner. Ruiner is not that much more powerful, plus even if somewhat weaker, Primordial would surely not be easy anyways

It's a tie 😃

This is fully primordial. He fought and won gaismagorm in a 1v1 fight without any distractions, while ruiner needed the hunter to weaken shara in order to win.

@Brian-tf2li

10 ай бұрын

when was this 😂😂

@TJSeries-Animated

10 ай бұрын

@@Brian-tf2li I DONT KNOWWW. READ AND FIND OUT

Nergigante forever, let's go!

In lore I'm giving it to Primordial. He can command the Qurio to somewhat Nergs regen and the difference in speed is to great for Nerg to consistently get a win

@bobisuncanny2760

11 ай бұрын

You know Malzeno aren't born with qurios. So if there is an encounter between the two. It would be more likely to see a pure Primezeno vs Nergi

I always have more trouble with Primordial than Ruiner. And my syart to the war is Nergigante is overrated

Ill always go with my boy Malzeno. Nerg is cool and all, but personally I think it's an overrated monster.

@zorro8027

11 ай бұрын

He’s underrated if anything. The game devs have already confirmed his feats, but a large portion of the community still doesn’t accept he’s a high tier elder that rivals Primordial Malzeno.

@EldritchErik94

11 ай бұрын

@@zorro8027 He is overrated, even his fight is pathetic. As a veteran since the first game, I just don’t see the appeal of Nergigante. It’s easily one of the worst and most overrated flagships.

@magnabueno5360

11 ай бұрын

​@@zorro8027sorry but no. Underrated??? But if I saw so many people saying it could beat every damn monster in the series. 😭😭 def overrated.

@OTBASH

11 ай бұрын

@@zorro8027 Underrated? Who are you even around to think this? People love over hyping this monster acting like it can beat anything.

@zorro8027

11 ай бұрын

@@OTBASH Yeah it’s a bad mix of both with little to no in between. That’s why you see people either clown on Nerg or highball him.

Primordial Malzeno WITHOUT Qurio is almost equal to Ruiner Nergigante. However Ruiner is still slightly stronger as he is specifically built to take on other Elder Dragons, and probably no other similar size Elders can match him in Brute Strength. He also got the healing factor, so in a war of attrition, Ruiner is gonna come out on top. However Primordial with Qurios is a different story, in that case it's new ranged attacks will give it an edge over Ruiner. Not to mention it's enhanced speed will help make it's attacks hit further harder. Conclusion? Ruiner wins if Primordial doesn't have Qurios. Once Primordial gets Qurios, it's game over for Ruiner.

@madeleinegamy7267

11 ай бұрын

You do know that primordial even without the Quios defeated gaismagorm and destroyed velkhna who ties with runiner. And I’m pretty sure if primordial can defeat gaismagorm he definitely is beating runiner.and I doubt Nergi can land a lethal blow against primordial considering how fast primordial is. Primordial would land lots of lethal blows against nergi considering the fact primordial attacks move at the same speed as his movement speed. And primordial is nearly as physically strong as nergi don,t believe me look at his turf war with vel. By away if your going to bring the topic saying he could just regenerate from the attacks your correct but if he takes to munch damage it takes lot’s of time for him to fully recover take a look at the shara fight.

@silentprotagonist3786

11 ай бұрын

@@madeleinegamy7267 bro Primordial Malzeno beats Velkhana and ties with Malzeno. Velkhan also ties with Malzeno. The turf wars are often not a correct indicator of power as the devs maybe just wanted a new turf war between Iceborne flagship and Sunbreak flagship. Cause if you are bringing turf wars then PriMalzeno uses fucking QURIO BEAM against Malzeno even though the Qurio Beams are restricted to it's later forms. So the turf wars aren't always accurate. What am trying to say is Ruiner and Velkhana are both flagships of World and Iceborne, of course Capcom won't show Ruiner beating Velkhana, on the other hand Velkhana in Sunbreak is not a flagship anymore so the devs can make her lose to another monster. In Iceborne lorebook Ruiner is literally mentioned as the APEX of Guiding Lands, which means it's actually stronger than Velkhana despite what the turf war shows (which of course is because both are flagships, so both must tie), only Savage Deviljho and Furious Rajang are mentioned to come close in terms of brute strength, and even then they cannot beat Ruiner in a war of attrition as Ruiner can handle such power with no drawbacks while Savage gets hungry over time and Furuous cannot maintain red arms mode for so long. Also, we are comparing monsters from two different games, Iceborne was a MUCH slower game, so Ruiner's movements were much slower. If Ruiner was brought to Sunbreak am pretty sure his moveset would had been updated to be faster or stronger as the devs feel it necessary, just like how they updated Velkhana. And last thing, PriMalzeno canonically couldn't even kill Gaismagorm, it only managed to repel it lmao. On the other hand the Iceborne NPCs in the ending cutscene tells us specifically that Ruiner was LOOKING OUT to hunt down Shara Ishvalda. If it wasn't for the Research Commission, Ruiner would have handled Shara anyways cause that's his role: to maintain the ecosystem. In the end, Ruiner is still the eater of elders and the ecosystem purifier of an ENTIRE continent. While Primordial Malzeno, albeit being strong, still can't match Ruiner in terms of brute strength. Not to mention it's speed is average when without the Qurios, ir Nergi grabs a hold of PriMalzeno it's game over.

@madeleinegamy7267

11 ай бұрын

@@silentprotagonist3786 you do know that is just a copied animation right. And so what if there from different games nergi has not shown any speed feats that compares to primordial. And also so what if he was going to kill shara that does not mean he can. And also if malzeno could defeat gaismagorm Im pretty sure he can also kill him and you do not need be able to kill something to prove you are stronger primordial despite not killing gaisma is considered stronger then him. And he we go again so what if he is called the eater of elders that does not mean he beats all elder dragons and him being called a. Regulator. Means nothing it’s irrelevant. Let’s take a look at oltuara when nergi tried to take on oltuara juvenile form he got one shoted and if your going to bring the excuse saying he was weaken nergi heals almost instantly as stated in the game. And I know this is normal nergi but this just proves that it does not matter if he is a balancer to the ecosystem or the eater of elders.

@madeleinegamy7267

11 ай бұрын

@@silentprotagonist3786 and by away even if nergi does get a hold on primordial he would just counter that with his tail which will be more then capable of harming nergi enough to take him off.

@silentprotagonist3786

11 ай бұрын

@@madeleinegamy7267 bro dickrides Primordial Malzeno forgetting that Nergigante is same if not stronger than Primordial in sheer brute strength 💀

The Virgin Ruiner: Keeps getting flinched by Teostra’s blasts The Chad Primordial: *casually stops a super nova from happening*

...Nergi fanboys must be going crazy right now. Anything related to this dragon-porcupine always causes some drama.

Scorned magnamlo no diffs ruiner Nergigante

everyone here conveniently forgetting that Malzeno's final form was only reached with the qurio if this was a normal primordial malzeno and not the one we see in the story it would get shredded by ruiner nergigante also, wouldn't ruiner nergigante technically be the smarter one? other elder dragons are shown to ignore and respect hunters, not just primordial malzeno (though apparently people would love to disagree). ruiner nergigante showed clear planning and patience, letting the hunters destroy shara ishvalda so that it wouldn't have to expend energy fighting it and instead could only finish it off and consume it. open to debating in the replies :)

@eren7kruger129

11 ай бұрын

A monster that can put Velkhana to shame clearly would not get easly shredded by Ruiner Nergigante.

@madeleinegamy7267

11 ай бұрын

Nergi was not planing anything how about you read the iceborn ecology lore book. And saying he would destroy primordial wow so we apparently forgetting the fact he defeated gaismagorm and is able to wipe out an entire kingdom.and you do know malzeno is still Leagues above nergi in speed my evidence go play the game.

@Aoryen

11 ай бұрын

Nearly every elder dragon is capable of wiping out entire kingdoms, which is stated very VERY clearly in lore. Go watch Legends of the Guild, even a Lunastra is capable of destroying gigantic swathes of land. Malzeno wiping out a kingdom is not impressive. If you're implying that wiping out a kingdom is an impressive feat, then I guess Lunastra beats Malzeno on the power scale. If destroying a town is truly impressive, they'd both be marked as first-class elder dragons. They are not.

@Aoryen

11 ай бұрын

@@madeleinegamy7267 if YOU actually read the iceborne ecology book, you'd know it states that Ruiner Nergigante is Shara Ishvalda's only predator. Sure, Gaismagorm wiping out a kingdom shows its strength, but Shara Ishvalda was able to cause earthquakes and destruction across an ENTIRE CONTINENT from one tiny island. Also, speed is not the only factor. Even if it was, malzeno doesn't teleport every two seconds and is pretty comparable to nergigante in raw speed. Have you forgotten your hunts with nergigante, where you think you're safe on one side of a zone and then the fucker just leaps at mach 1 over to where you are? Besides, you have to account for both of their fights being scaled to in-game difficulty and mechanics. Wirebugs didn't even exist in world and there was no way to instantly close large distances. In Rise, there was, so they need to account for the hunter's increase in speed by increasing monster's speed (which they definitely failed at in the early game, but they've made up for it in sunbreak) I guarantee that if they ever port ruiner nergigante to a game with rise's fast movement and wirebugs, they will scale up his speed and power so much he will kick your ass.

@madeleinegamy7267

11 ай бұрын

@@Aoryen ok. destructive capabilities does not always mean stronger nergi does not have the same destructive capabilities as shara but yet he is stronger unless you have proof. And also provide me real evidence for why nergi could keep up with primordial.

Ez dub for nergi let's fugen gooo 😭😭

100% Malzeno

Nergigante is reliable for consistent appearances through its useful ecological niche. Malzeno (and Gaismagorm) is only as relevant as the Qurio. Without them, the nuances of its presentation aren't compelling.

@joshuasgameplays9850

11 ай бұрын

ok but I don't see how that's relevant to the video

It would be a really close fight. But I think in the end, Ruiner would win.

Definitely nergi. He is the bane of elder dragons after all. But if there’s any normal sized elder dragon that will give nergi a fight, it had to be valstrax. He’s literally fighting a jet fast enough that can speedblitz dive bomb him from afar.

Seething Bazelgeuse: “U both are too weak, whatever at iceborn or sunbreak, I still can beat u all down more easily, like I did to those tournament’s losers(Lucent, Silver, Gold, Furious, Flaming, Scorned, Violet), because I’m the greatest champion of all time!!!!!”

Malzeno wins. Think he's fighting a stronger version of the EDs (they has more and dangerous moves) and in the battle vs Kush and Teo had less problems than Nergi. Also, Nergi has the turf war advantage to deal damage, meanwhile Malzeno only has this with Velkhama Also in lore Malzeno is definitely stronger so I think the winner is clear

@yaroslavromanyuk5669

11 ай бұрын

*Turf war disadvantage. 10% of their hp is nothing for Nergi. 10% of Nergi's HP, on the other hand, is 30% total...

@airoc8270

11 ай бұрын

@@yaroslavromanyuk5669 but every turf war is 1500-3000 damage secured, do that help him to finish his oponents more fast

@yaroslavromanyuk5669

11 ай бұрын

@@airoc8270 It's 10% of total health, which means that Kushala lost 637 hp, but Nergi lost 2738 hp. Due to turf wars, Nergi lost 8214 hp out of 15056 total lost hp (54,6%), while only dealt 1900 damage out of total 19000 damage (10%).

@airoc8270

11 ай бұрын

@@yaroslavromanyuk5669 still be a great damage in one second. I see this like an advantage

@yaroslavromanyuk5669

11 ай бұрын

@@airoc8270 Yes, it's great damage, but if Malzeno had a turf war with Kushala and Teostra, he would have been left with 25% hp as opposed to Nergi's 45%.

As much as I love Primordial Malzeno, you need to remember that he is an elder dragon, and the Nergigante is known as "The Elders Eater" no matter how agile or strong the prey is, the predator will always adapt to subdue it.

@madeleinegamy7267

11 ай бұрын

Just because he is called the eater of elders doesn’t mean he automatically beats all elder dragons bye going with your logic he apparently can beat every single elder dragon including black dragons since they are still elder dragons.

@-Safijiiva-

11 ай бұрын

You nergi dick riders take that title too seriously

@yoooo790

11 ай бұрын

Well it is a balancer according to lore. Sooooooooo your argument is pointless here.

@madeleinegamy7267

11 ай бұрын

@@yoooo790 how does that prove my argument was pointless and he is not a balancer he just hunts elders for there bio energy

@madeleinegamy7267

11 ай бұрын

@@yoooo790and you believe he can beat every single elder in all of monster hunter don,t make me laugh😂.

When mh6 comes out I hope they bring out an elder dragon that completely bodies ruiner nerg just to show nergi dick riders that he's not a god.

Nerg is 1000 times better