Rudeus didn't even hesitate to step on her chest 😂 Kazuma would be proud.

@kingmanic

11 ай бұрын

Both of them are more bark than bite. Kazuma actually doesn't when he has the opportunity. Rudeus does but doesn't push more. Both of them tone it down after a while.

@alixdesnor9037

11 ай бұрын

I wonder what would happen if Kazuma got transported into the mushoku tensei universe?

@ricomambozero3811

11 ай бұрын

true advocates of gender equality 😂

@terrorist3333

11 ай бұрын

"I will not hesitate to drop kick a woman in the ovaries" kazuma

Shoutout to the small detail of Rudy taking up Eris' signature pose to try and appear confident when facing the Linia and Pursena

@laplace8461

11 ай бұрын

Wow I missed that

Julie slowly going and hiding behind Zanoba and also patting him on the head was such an amazing detail. Loved it.

@no_just_relax

11 ай бұрын

And when she ran away when rudy got close to zanoba

@kingmanic

11 ай бұрын

In the LN Rudy does some things in this episode that suggest to Julie he's the dwarven boogieman. Their boogieman captures bad kids in sacks and drowns them in mud. So she's going to be a bit shook for a while.

@Timmycoo

11 ай бұрын

My fav part of the ep. She is so adorable. I think it was mentioned that he treats her like a little sister because of the guilt he felt for his brother.

@Timmycoo

11 ай бұрын

@@kingmanic Damn! I love her and her cuteness. Rudy's apprentice!

For example, we saw Elinalise SA a random student at the beginning of the last episode, she pushes him againt a pillar and touches his crotch without him even having the chance to say anything. The only comment you guys made was "She has to do that for her curse". Literally no other comment. Why the double standard between last episode reaction and this one?

@zextruh9862

11 ай бұрын

Yea i guess you can say that rudeus was doing that for his curse too 😂

@railgunsss4036

11 ай бұрын

​@@zextruh9862Because Rudy has ED, so he only tests whether his sword can stand or not.

@raec5426

11 ай бұрын

I think it was meant that she has to constantly sleep with people for his curse, not about the touching part specifically. lol But yeah, I get your point. I think for them also because being exposed to Rudy more as the MC to get more focus.

@kevinlee6003

10 ай бұрын

Good observation. What's up with the double standards?

@ducksoop.x

2 ай бұрын

Both of those parts made me unconfortable tbh

Rudy is a visionary, a true scientist. He almost caught a case of SA just in name of science and for the advancement of that worlds medical system. What a misunderstood hero.

@Funnywargamesman

11 ай бұрын

If I recall correctly it should also be the last certified Rudeus moment of the series.

@GalEl1806

11 ай бұрын

Finally someone see a full picture

@Diremagic

11 ай бұрын

@@Funnywargamesman sadge

@bravewryy6781

11 ай бұрын

🤨

@yuuka_kazami

11 ай бұрын

@@gunz350 i think hes being sarcastic

Rudeus is written in a way that his character development isn't gonna be just a straight line foward, he will still fall and make morally questionable mistakes along the way towards being a better person.

@bravewryy6781

11 ай бұрын

Flawed character > bland character think bojack Heisenberg Rick Sanchez etc.

@Plopi

11 ай бұрын

for real, theres a reason why disney movies are garbage nowadays. Literally every character is perfect, no flaws. Lame af @@bravewryy6781

@nguyendi92

11 ай бұрын

​@@bravewryy6781or even Breaking bad characters, or any good American TV shows.

@karasudd

11 ай бұрын

tbh his character only becomes decent on season 3, going by the moral point. My bet is people who are on the wall will probably drop it at the end of season 2, its going to be the final filter, knowing what happens. I don't know if StruckbyBelz will get past it or not, but if they just like the show and can accept Rudeus does shitty things they will be rewarded with his season 3 version of his character that they will probably enjoy.

@mjgoat5978

11 ай бұрын

@@karasudd i forget what happens can you remind me? been a while since i read toward the end of this season

Keep in mind that Rudy knows for a fact (Hitogami) that something at the university will cure his ED but, since he doesn't know exactly what will, he might try whatever he can. The sole purpose of him being in the university is to cure himself. Apart from that the episode was hilarious because of the reactions of Zanoba, Julie and the beast girls.

@juansegundoshanahan6982

11 ай бұрын

Also Rudy is now part of this world and thus he has to get used to it, and it's not his responsability to change the world and everybodys lifes. It would be annoying as fuck if he tried to impose lets say nowadays beliefs.

Anime doesn't say that but Fitz (Sylphie) wear enchanted artifacts granted by Ariel: boots (grants speed of run), mantle (grants some magic resist and saves warm in frost), and glasses (forbids to people to remember her facial features which helps to hide her identity). It's impossible to Rudeus somehow recognise her

Alright, so to answer your question, Mel, I like Rudy as a main character. He is different. He’s not your typical Shonen protagonist and it’s a breath of fresh air. He’s got a good heart at times, but he’s also scum a good chunk of the time too. Please keep in mind that doesn’t mean I agree or even like half the things he does. But since he’s so different, I like him as a main character from that perspective

@benjaminariasjr

11 ай бұрын

He is just like must people. Nobody is unquestionable. Everybody has things they hide or have changed because they somehow understood why it was wrong.

@stickfigure8416

11 ай бұрын

I feel similarly. The point of the story is not to excuse or redeem his actions, is to show how people can change for the better, even those as scummy as Rudeus, and to show how said process is hard, takes a lot of time, and involves a lot of relapses. We like him, but that doesn't mean we agree with everything he does, even making us uncomfortable. Of course, that's the intention, liking him as a character doesn't mean we idolize or enjoy his every action. Like, if Rudeus was just a bland, generic, goody-two-shoes isekai protag, this story wouldn't even be worth telling imo.

@deving7710

11 ай бұрын

i agree with this

@Emilia-em5cz

11 ай бұрын

​@@benjaminariasjrI don't think most people molest minors and make a panty shrine...

@e10gold

11 ай бұрын

That’s the thing a lot of people overlook, you can still like characters that do bad things. I’d argue that Light from Death Note does much much worse but people love him. Liking a character doesn’t automatically mean you’re condoning their actions.

Some missing context from the light novels those two beast girls are bullies at the school not just towards zonoba, I'm not saying it justifies what rudeus did though.

@kingmanic

11 ай бұрын

It's implied in the episode. The rolling around with a gang of 20 beastmen isn't shown. Then Fitz beating them all up and getting the other 20 expelled would add some context. Still not a justification for them getting groped. Just for the fight.

@onur6145

11 ай бұрын

Yes, anime could not give this enough. I think his actions went too far though.

@terencebarnes7393

11 ай бұрын

@@onur6145 Weirdly enough in novels Pursna was a little upset she sensed no sexual interest or desire in him. This kinda made her think WTF I’m not sexy enough.

@onur6145

11 ай бұрын

@@terencebarnes7393 Yeah, among beastkind these behaviour seems common LOL.

@terencebarnes7393

11 ай бұрын

@@onur6145 Yea very common

I think we put ourselves in Rudy's position, and our morals outweigh the show. In real life, we would never hangout with someone like that. The feelings for this show are a lot different than say Vinland Saga, where Ketle bought slaves for his farm and those slaves were managed by Snake. We accepted that scenario, but with Mushoku Tensei, we don't. Maybe it's the realism that Mushoku Tensei brings to the show that gets the response that it does.

@kingmanic

11 ай бұрын

American bias, when people are more chill with violent people and murderers than creeps.

@gunz350

11 ай бұрын

@kingmanic In America, rpist and cm are at the top of the list above murders as unforgivable. All are bad, though, but under certain circumstances, M is acceptable, but in your context, yes, America accepts violence (not gore).

@kagani6202

11 ай бұрын

Wait, you were morally okay with the slavery in Vinland Saga? This is shit you take the grave.

On your last question: Let me preface that I'm anime-only so there might be things coming that I don't know about. I love the show and I love Rudeus as a character, he's extremely nuanced which is rare for the genre and anime in general. That doesn't mean I love some of his actions. I also love Eren from AOT, Light from Death Note and Lelouch from Code Geass. They all manipulate, torture and kill and commit all kinds of evil for the sake of their vision of the world. Rudeus "only" SA's and that "only" is only in comparison with these loved MCs from other shows. There's also another interesting point to these characters: If you listen to Light's or Eren's or Lelouch's inside voice you can almost support their actions because the authors are giving you their twisted logic, while they commit heinous crimes. Meanwhile we permanently listen to Rudeus inside mind saying stupid perverse things, but his actions rarely follow. The author is continuously reminding the viewer that Rudeus is mentally unfit for society. Even then, all the terrible actions Rudeus commits are made in some kind of "revenge". Another point that you've already picked up on is that this world is way more punishing than other worlds, and what we consider crimes that Rudeus commits are tame in comparison to other things that happen. All in all, I don't think this is a story where the MC is a hero that saves the world, it's simply about how a scum bottom of the barrel person tries to learn to live life, and I don't look for grandstanding morals from him, I'm just interested in seeing how he develops for better or worse.

@proximitive3872

11 ай бұрын

that's basically it. In the light novel, the story ends when he dies of old age. I've never seen read a series or watch a show that told a story until a main character's death. Everytime I remember it even though i havent read the ending yet just saddens me because Rudeus and Eris is human who only lives at maximum 90 - 100 years old. Sylphie and Roxy would see them both die and live for another hundred years or so without them :(

@nguyendi92

11 ай бұрын

​@@proximitive3872bro, is this aa spoiler? Why are you spoiling alot already with those few words , especially to someone who already mention they are "anime only"? Like why the fuck would Roxy and Sylphy care about Eris if they havent even met in the anime? Take care of other people's enjoyment, man.

@proximitive3872

11 ай бұрын

@@nguyendi92 i mean its obvious they would meet one way or another.

@nguyendi92

11 ай бұрын

@@proximitive3872 It's also unclear in the anime why would Sylphy even care about Eris at all. That is not anywhere in the anime as of Season 2. That's why I it's somewhat a spoiler.

@Zepxyranthes

11 ай бұрын

@@proximitive3872 take the L dude and just edit spoiler alert into your comment. No one has to know the relationship between these people.

For some reason people forgot that rudy spent 3-5 years actively saving people from slavery/kidnapping pairing with rudjerid to save the beast children from cleaner and kind of accepting that he knew his family was messed up for being a top buyer of beast people and that disappointment he shows from his reaction and thoughts in the anime which are apparently more fleshed out in the LN Rudy is just very cautious and in a way selfish while also being selfless because literally before he starts turning his life around the first time outside of his home in decades he DIES trying to save the students on the road He has very good aspects but he also has just the same amount of bad tendencies that I hope to see get hammered out to be a better person as he gets older

Nobody disrespects Roxy and get away with it.

@xanon4210

11 ай бұрын

Screw Roxy and screw Rudy's delusion of her as a goddess.

The double standard is crazy. Let's go back and watch the episode where Rudy was locked up by the doldia, Wrongfully accused, stripped NAKED, and imprisoned, I bet you laughed at the scene. But two girls are locked up fully clothed, and guilty according to his religion lol. "OMG that's terrible" he's so despicable..." did sheild hero get hate for raphtalia, who was a slave? Stop the Rudy hate lol

@onlyfiles_

11 ай бұрын

Rudeus didn't get sexually assaulted tho unless you consider him being stripped naked as assault

@terencebarnes7393

11 ай бұрын

⁠@@onlyfiles_Both are just wrong honestly. To me they even out. If it was Eris that was stripped and put in a cage there a be a uproar.

@raec5426

11 ай бұрын

Umm, Shield Hero did get criticism for that, yeah. lol

@StruckByBelz

11 ай бұрын

Our reaction to that episode is up for you to see instead of making assumptions…but I expect this kinda bs from some of you 🤷🏽‍♂️

@sakib8599

11 ай бұрын

Relax man

the thing about the author apologizing was a misstranslation. he cleared up since people said he shouldnt apologize and said he never apologized. its a fictional world and rudy's character is meant to be flawed and not likeable in the start. when u trying to become better u aint realistically never gonna fall down

@terencebarnes7393

11 ай бұрын

Yeah in most anime’s they fix the issue in a episode or 2. In MT life changing events within the story changes the characters outlook, and sometimes it’s more subtle.

@draetone5602

11 ай бұрын

Stop it dude, The freaking author was not trying make a right wing political cultural war statement. Slavery is oblivious a touchy subject to people who ancestors were slaves I can literally name mine who were. The author was basically saying because he doesn't condone slavery he obliviously wasn't trying to offend people. and this just fictional work taking place in a setting that has it....... but there people twisting his words to make it seem he doesn't care people were offended and trying stick it too them. When actually he saying it was never his intent to do, so people shouldn't be offended, thus he doesn't see anything wrong to change his story.

Some people were outraged about some of the author's tweets which implied he condoned slavery; the author tweets in Japanese, and many people, including websites, were relying on auto-translation that misconstrued what he was saying. He never condoned slavery or apologized.

@draetone5602

11 ай бұрын

just say he didn't condoned slavery and just leave it alone. The whole emphasis on stressing "not apologizing" make it look like does approve of slavery and he's not empathic towards the history of it. The only people who stress he did not apologize are people trying make a political cultural statement itself. Getting some weird excite racist boner for offending those who are descendant of enslave people. I pretty sure that wasn't what author wasn't trying to do.

-Rudy gave punishment to linia and pursena because the statue that was destroyed was the best sculptural masterpiece Rudy had ever painstakingly made. he was very detailed in making the statue and the statue was roxy where Rudy respected roxy so much that he was even considered goddess because she had healed his illness or trauma in the previous world, afraid to go out and stare at other people. -Rudy held Pursena's chest to test whether Rudy's sword could stand up but it didn't work because Rudy was still having ED and as Rudy said to Fits if he did that it was only to test something and Rudy didn't intend to think about doing dirty things, yes we know that what Rudy did was perverted but in Rudy's mind he really didn't even think about doing something perverted because his only goal was to test whether his ED had been cured or not. -The character development has been seen but is still in the developing stage and will continue to develop, the goal of the mushoku story is Rudy's development and if Rudy has completely changed it means the story is over. the total volume of mushoku novels is 26 while in season two part 1 the story is still in volume 7-9 there is still a long way to go so just wait for each story in the future Rudy will continue to get character development.

For the beast folks, the punishment for doing some "evil" thing to their object of worship, AKA the sacred beast, is to be imprisoned naked and doused with water. They consider it to be the heaviest and most humiliating kind of punishment. In this episode's case, Rudeus was just making the same suggestion to the beast girls because they did some "evil" thing to his object of worship, AKA Roxy. For Rudy, it might look like "Oh it's just being locked up while being naked after getting doused with water. No big deal." But for the beast girls, as their custom has been taught for generation about that punishment, they were extremely scared. Good thing Rudy didn't end up doing that far.

I was the kind that was laughing all the way. The funny part for me is seeing even Zanoba and Julie being actually afraid of Rudy's pervertness even though they are supposedly allies like "whoa wait a minute holy this guy is seriously beyond crazy".

Ngl I was kinda nervous about this reaction LMAO thought maybe yall would drop it again. Glad you're enduring on. Certified Rudy moment forsure, but we've seen these actions before.

@Ramiro_edits

11 ай бұрын

I don't see why they'd drop it at all, yes it's weird, but he didn't go further or pursue anything previous Rudy would've done. He was simply testing to see if his “baby“ would awaken. Imo I don't see why they'd drop it for a 5 sec scene.

@raec5426

11 ай бұрын

Yeah, seen it before, but admit a bit disappointed to see it again (as far as the non-consensual touching). He can be perverted, just prefer to see him grow away from that specific aspect.

@dallama2616

11 ай бұрын

regardless of his intentions he's still sexually assaulting a girl. Though to drop it because of that would be dumb @@Ramiro_edits

@nguyendi92

11 ай бұрын

I think I would rather they dropped it. I feel like they are very uncharitable toward the MC, not just about the horrible stuff he did this episode. Like how can they get annoyed at Rudy for not remembering Ghislaine is their aunt? Cant people just forget stuff? There is so much resentment underneath the surface that I dont evn think they actually want to watch the show.

@lawlach8341

11 ай бұрын

@nguyendi92 I feel like Steph is at least attempting to understand the show, compared to back when they originally dropped it. Which I respect.

I don’t know why people except Rudy to just change out of nowhere

@raec5426

11 ай бұрын

I mean we already seen him going away from certain bad habits later on S1, so that's why it could be a bit disappointing if you see him lean into it more again (non-consensual touching).

Maybe we must all remember that this show (and all anime for that matter) are written with the sole japanese public in mind. It is quite a fact the very sensitive american public is not taken into account here. Basicly they must adapt (yes it is very hard but this show is worth the effort).

@re_striker3431

11 ай бұрын

I'm not sure people should adapt to blatant pedophilia and certain sexual actions. Just because it is written for japanese audiences dosent mean we can't question the morality of the content regardless of cultural barrier. It is a very morally unclear topic but I would say that people shouldn't be mocked for not liking the show or the mc when the show is trying to make you feel uncomfortable.

@francobanko6722

11 ай бұрын

​@@re_striker3431agreed

@alainklein6137

11 ай бұрын

@@re_striker3431 Where i am totally agree with you is that people shouldn't be mocked for being triggered or not liking the show. It is a given for me. That being said, my point is: americans are very sensitive about a bunch of morally subjects (and, in my opinion, too sensitive; at the point that, mainly americans, jump to the author's throat because the show happens in a world where slavery is an institution). Since americans are NOT the targeted audience for this, if said americans don't like Mushoku Tensei, that's cool: there are plenty other shows more suited to their taste. So basically, in my eyes: they have to adapt or leave. Please do note that this remark is valid for any viewer in fact. Another thing I want to add: all works of fantasy don't have to happen in a world of butterfly and rainbows. Some worlds can be thoughs, rudes, morally disturbing. Especially, like here, when we're dealing with a seinen (with adults as targeted audience). And for me, I prefer these imperfect worlds to the sanitized worlds that the detractors of Mushoku Tensei would want to have. That leave more rooms to question myself about such difficult topics. And to be sure: NO, a show depicting bad things doesn't necessarily condone these bad things.

Rudy, in his previous life, was basically stripped naked, tied up, tortured for who knows how long and then left for who knows how long. When it happened to him again in his new life, out in the forest when the beasts captured him, he was stripped and locked up and mocked by everyone and he was like, Okay, this is just how it is. He barely flinched because he was already broken and traumatized. He was already getting over it and realized it couldn't hurt him anymore. So now he sees it as a form of punishment, but he knows he doesn't need to go that far to make a point. He didn't strip them naked, he realized what he was doing was too similar to what happened to him before in the forest and turned back but still wanted to punish them some how, he just needed a third party with a clear conscience to know what would be just, which is why he went to Fitz... but still didn't move fast enough for a beast person... Was it right the way he did it? idk, but how do you teach a bully not to bully? Imho, you need show them how their victims feel and the only way to do that is to let them experience those feelings of helplessness. Idk if there was a better way, but I don't think Rudy knows of one either. But yeah, Rudy is still creepy. Anyone who has had that sense of battlefield clarity, between helplessness and hope where this kind of torture is just trivial, will also know that life is precious and not everyone needs to learn the hard lessons, especially not the same way you did. I do not sympathize with Rudy but I also can't disapprove as they did bully so many others. Probably didn't need to go so hard on them but I think Rudy realized that too.

Saying Rudy is “long gone” and “making up your mind about him” and “I have no hope for him”, basically giving up on him and considering him a lost cause, is disappointing. Your supposed to be uncomfortable and disapprove of the his bad thoughts and actions, but your still supposed to root for him to be a better person and believe in someone that seems hopeless but wants to change.

@kagani6202

11 ай бұрын

You can say that because you've read the manga and you know that it has a happy ever after but for alot of the anime only.. this shit is just weird. Your "disappointment" is disappointing.

@rafaelrivera9346

11 ай бұрын

Those beast girls deserve it. In the LN they bullied other students badly as they believe to be strong over the weak.

@whydoihavesubs6644

11 ай бұрын

@@rafaelrivera9346 they deserve to get beat up by Rudy, not groped and help captive

@rafaelrivera9346

11 ай бұрын

@@whydoihavesubs6644 Just like his tribe did to him….naked, hosed and jailed for day naked and harassed? Or have you forgotten. Also this beast girls where part of the beast gang (in the LN) bullying all the weaker students. Also the beast people believe the strong over the weak as almost a religion. I understand the anime did not explain this in enough details, but it’s based on @ light novel. Wait until the beast girls go into their animal thing…. auuuuu! Remember the movie Porky’s… 😂😂🤣🤣

@whydoihavesubs6644

11 ай бұрын

@@rafaelrivera9346 I know all of this. These specific girls didn't strip him and imprison him. Like I said, they deserved to get beat up for bullying everyone but not sexually assaulted

I love how flawed he is personally.

I think it's impossible for Rudy didn't recognize or forgot about Sylphy......He literally still remember about Eris,especially Roxy too

Rudeus is such an amazing character. He definitely becomes more better morally later on. He is a character that is meant to have flaws and not meant to b liked but ur meant to understand him and his life. Yes his trauma is also a factor as he was bullied, betrayed and humilated in his previous life and then betrayed by eris in this life. Also slave people are a very common thing in isekai anime and a there are a lot of isekai mcs who have had slaves. Just have faith cuz this series in one of the greatest animes ever and it will keep getting better. Also he has a lot of character development and amazing writing. One of my fav mcs ever

The novel showed it better, but these girls were super omega bullies. Mean and rude and bullied everyone around them at the school for years. Even were mean to rudy (after we were first introduced to them Rudy still had interactions with them, but those were left out), so him doing this to them felt more justified in the book (aside from groping her obviously). They stopped being bullies for the most part after this. Thats why Fitz was okay with going along with Rudy's plan, because she saw the havoc these girls reeked on campus for a while now lol.

@CursedHatter

11 ай бұрын

yup

Character growth isnt linear in a good story. Theres up and downs. Hes like an alcoholic who slips up and drinks when theyre desperate, except hes in the middle of developing feelings for Fitz (who he thinks is a guy) and his ED has been affecting him for 3 years or so. For Ruby, hes like an alcoholic who just became immune to alcohol and is trying anything to get a buzz. This entire transgression is not funny and its not meant to be. This is a moment where this show delves into serious issues, like the slavery in the previous episode. In an attempt to get his d**k to work, he seriously crossed the line. I agree with you about this being unacceptable. There a few moments in this series where Rudy slips up and lets his past self take the wheel. When he reconfirms his sexual orientation after Sylphie reveal herself, i think we're going to see some serious character growth.

Some people who give Rudy the benefit of the doubt are also novel readers and they know how Rudy turns out in the future

About the slave market aspect, I like this question someone posed to me a while back. If you were taken to an alien planet and slavery was so normalized that they had markets right next to their schools, would you lead the lone fight against it based on morals from an entirely different world, or would you accept it as an aspect of their world you can’t change? I don’t think there’s an objective right answer, both sides can be argued for, but I think it perfectly paints the dilemma Rudy finds himself in here. The issue with that episode though is that they completely cut Rudy and Sylphie’s disdain for it.

I love the show and I like Rudeus as MC. Man is slowly working on himself. As author said: You can hate Rudeus and show, but dont be so harsh on people IRL who are really trying to become better person.

By the way, you'd be surprised how many people like Eren from Attack on Titan as a character, even though he organized genocide and killed 80% of the world's population

I can tell you now, it's probably not a spoiler. Rudy will be horny for the rest of his life, but he will never force others to do what they don't want using his power, he hasn't even killed a single person yet in the whole show, he's not a bad person, but like everyone has his flaws

I don’t blame any anime only viewers at all for how they feel about Rudeus, and I’d say you’re right because without knowing what happens in the LNs we’d probably all feel similar, but I still think he’s fine as an MC. As for the author situation, he never apologized for what was written in his story, he just said he doesn’t condone it. That translation was taken out of context, and I don’t see a reason for him to apologize too tbh.

I appreciate your honesty and transparency when viewing anime. I don’t know if it’s fair to view everything through the lens of how things are in America in 2023. Things that offend you, may be acceptable in the world of Mushoku Tensei.

For people on patron, how is the poll results looking?

Guys, even if in our world this kind of stuff is really bad they live in other world, and in that world the things that Rudeous does or other characters do isn´t strange or "bad". For example slavery, in our world is awfull but in that place is common and normal, so the sexual content isn't strange for them. Off course for our eyes is a shocking content but i don´t think Rudeous is doing bad things, he only is living the way this world demands.

regarding the "experiment" In his head now, not only is he not able to get an erection, but he also began to show signs of falling in love with someone he thinks is a boy. I'm sure he's got a pretty big mess up there. In addition, the girl knew that she was not going to go further because the Doldia tribe can smell the excitement, so perhaps it can be less traumatic for her. I am not justifying him because what he did is obviously wrong, I am just saying that now there is a context and a why, he is not the same pervert as before Sorry for My English, i'm a hispánic fan

I am a Mushoku Tensei stan and also a Rudeus enjoyer as well. Though I don't condone the boob groping from him I will say this is the last of his shenanigans for the series. He's not your typical hero protagonist, he's a flawed human being that has gone through TONS OF SHIT and his ED is making him miserable if you had more context from the LN (only read what I've seen from the anime so far). Dude is not suppose to be this Saint, he has a heart and will do the right things most of the time but I don't see anyone saying he's perfect either. Dude is very unique and different but easily one of my favorite characters in anime.

@kingmanic

11 ай бұрын

Anime in general plays sexual assault for laughs. But there is shifts in attitudes. This work is also from a source that is older. But also this is the arc where it starts toning it down.

The anime forgets to share the fact that Linia and Persuna are the lead delinquents of the school until Rudy came in. They are the cholas of Mushoku Tensei.

@kb101gto8

11 ай бұрын

They were demoted as head delinquents before rudy came.

Rudy is not black and white, good or bad. He is a very flawed individual. To many, he is a "bad person". Some or a number of his actions are definitely not good or questionable. I don't condone it as well. I would not do it if it was me. He himself acknowledges himself as scum. Unlike most people, he is self aware. And I think he is trying to change, although it happens a few steps at a time. He may not even be able to be "perfect"(or at least acceptable to most) or change all the parts of himself we don't like. No person is pure good or pure evil. At least not for me. We are all just different shades of grey or have something bad in us in different ways and in different degrees. And as long as they don't murder or r*** a person or become an accessory to it or torture and derive pleasure from it, I don't think they are beyond saving. In my POV, even real criminals have their stories you can learn from or listen to. If you're too uncomfortable or offended. If you can't handle these kind of stories, you don't have to watch. It's absolutely your choice and I won't judge you for it. If he is a real person, I may or may not like him either. But in the context of this story, he is one of the best MC(at least for me) in all of anime. The story and character dynamics is just that good. It's one of the most realistic portrayal of character development and dynamics I've seen in any show. Along with top tier animation, music and world-building. It's not a surprise many watch this. He is not a paragon of virtue or righteousness. He will probably never reach that "perfect state"(or at least acceptable to most) no matter how long this show goes on. And that is perfectly fine with me. As long as he strive to be better. That bit about him groping. I think its true that his motive is not sexual. He is trying to determine if this will have any reaction to his ED. His not trying to get-off groping someone or fulfilling his perverted desires. Its quite evident in his expression. And many people doesn't seem to get that. Of course what he did is not right at all. I'm not trying to defend it. Just clarifying what I see. And its part of his flaws. Just as how wrong it was when the Doldia beast people accused him of a crime, stripped him of everything and put him in a cage for days and treating like a criminal. This one's a lot tamer and the party involved is guilty. It's obvious it is still wrong. I think you're underestimating the place, the world and times he is in. Many people do cruel things to each other just like in our world from then to now. And sometimes, people just are trying to do their best in that situation they're in even if you agree to it or not. He may not make the best decisions all the time. He is what he is. And I think he is trying to be better. That's why I think he asked help from Fitz/Sylphy. With regards to the slavery part, his expression shows his discomfort when going in the area where the slaves are kept in cages. When entering the place, he seems to be trying to calm himself or distract himself from what he sees so that he doesn't offend anyone in that place. I don't think he condones slavery. He bought julie(i think) because it solves both his problem with Zanoba and relieving the girl of the suffering of that place. It's the best action action i think he could take. Slavery is legal there. What is he gonna do? Fight the whole empire? Openly show his disagreement? I think that's stupid. And although he doesn't confide to anyone, even the viewers what he really thinks about slavery there. It doesn't mean its ok for him too.. Any of these are all unrelated to the novel or manga as I haven't read it yet. This is just based on my observation of the anime. I don't think its the intention of the show to present all that is shown here as something you need to agree on or like. Especially because it shows the ugly side of people, most of all the mc. But it is something that make sense in the story and an important part of the show. It makes his complete change or at least the part that most people don't like(if it ever comes to that) much more rewarding. It also make it much more realistic and relatable. I never intended it to be this long. But thanks to anyone who actually read it all.

@criscarpio571

11 ай бұрын

Also, watch AutoSave's reaction. Better if you watch all their videos regarding mushoku tensei for context. I think it mirrors most of the sentiment of the people who like this show.

@j.aghoul3147

11 ай бұрын

This, perfect put. It's like the people who close themselves off from looking at Rudeus character development/journey basically just missed the +60% of the what makes this anime so special and unique.

They cut a lot of things from the manga in this episode that these two girls bullied a lot of people so the punishment wasn't all that

Many people don't understand our Main Character rudy enough🙃

We don't have to compare Rudy's action to other animes and their characters. This is a situation that EVERYONE goes through. It's called relapse. It's a perfectly normal occurrence that happens with everyone trying to better themselves from trauma or bad habits. Trauma can last for decades or in some cases half a century+ for some people, so putting a arbitrary timeline on when someone is "supposed" to be healed isn't doing anyone any favors. This episode emphasizes the importance of having a good support system. As flawed as other people around him may be, they are still there for him and help him through his trauma, whether they know it or not. This is something Rudy hasn't had since Eris left him, so it wouldn't be too farfetched to see him revert back to some of his old bad habits. When people have such bad habits that rule their minds/life, they need people around them to help keep them in check. It's not enough to learn the lesson once and have it be permanently fixed. And I haven't seen the poll's results, but I'm sure there was a fair amount of people who really like Rudeus as a character because they either see through all his flaws to find a extremely hurt person who's desperate for change and happiness or can relate to his struggle and enjoy watching his progress to become a better person even when he relapses. Rudy gives these struggling people some hope. I know its hard to understand Rudy's or anyone who likes him POV, but know that there are many different ways people are viewing this anime and are possibly using it as a way to heal as well. The questionable actions might be played off as a comedic action, but just like any comedian, it could be based off of reality and could be given a deeper meaning. The author wasn't a fool to the horrors of reality, so he made it a point to have us see it in all its ugliness and slightly censored through a comedic lens so it can be more palpable for a bigger audience to view and study.

I dont mind if Rudeus is immoral, _because is perfectly consistent with his character,_ and inner consistence the foundation of a work But none of the stuff Rudeus does this episode is a joke, thats the thing, *he was dead serious about everything* Its a thing that many people dont realize, but all of the in-universe social stuff is presented straight, and just look like anime shenanigans because we are used to them, on some aspects Mushoku can be seen as a reconstruction of anime cliches I think the most obvious case is Eris, she looks like a tsundere, but she is just violent and earnest, but that also generates her a terrible reputation in-universe, Silphy looks like a cute shy girl, but she is also self conscious and self-isolating, Ruijerd is the classic loner badass, showing that being a loner badass can also suck, and soon and on Rudeus is the pervert gifted MC, showing one must be messed up to be that pervert, one must train a lot to be look that gifted, and there is still room to grow

12:40 Kinda going along with that thought; this is probably the first time Rudeus has thought about Ghislane since she left with Eris. It's probably why he only just realized that Ghislane is that girl's aunt. Just never thought about it.

I am a fan of the show *BECAUSE* of the main character. "Controversial" MC *>* Another Battle Shonen Savior MC

Well first of all, Rudy himself was stripped completely down to the cock and balls, left in an unsanitory cage by himself and was given the bare minimum of food (sometimes not even as it was thrown on him). This was all over a misunderstanding. And this all happened for several days and probably would've been even longer had the slave traffickers not invaded the village Here, the two girls were tied up, one of their boobs got felt up, one or their boobs got felt up, and then were left there for ONE DAY. And this was for bullying Zanoba and breaking something very precious to both Zanoba and Rudeus. Like which one is worse here? Now I'm not trying to get you to like Rudeus, I'm simply explaining how the world of Mushoku works. It is NOT our world, and the likes of fighting, slave trading, sex etc. is a lot more normalised and public than in our world. You have to understand this. Btw as far as I remember this is the last bad Rudy moment because of developments that will soon occur.

You need to realize basically the "time period" this takes place. It's roughly around the Middle ages in Europe. There were slaves, royal and noble hierarchies, what we think of a gone-by era, that's the time Rudy is living in now. He can't just go to the king and say "abolish slavery, it's not right". He'd have his head chopped off. What if you got transported back into that time: would you try to change it right then and there, or live out your life in the conformity of your situation. Plus as well, the people talking about this now on Twitter are only now complaining about it since it was shown in the anime. Remember, it was a Light Novel before this in 2014, the author would have written the same thing in the story. Why didn't anyone complain about it then? Hmmm? It's been translated for a while now, yet no one talked about it then. the translate manga is past this part as well, and again no one said anything about what happened in the manga. There are worse shows about other subjects (suicide, depression, causing mass genocide) that have been out for a while but "heaven forbid someone buys a slave".

I like Rudy because he is damaged individual who learning to live a better life in this mushoku tensei world. I remember when Paul and Rudy had the argument in season 1. Rudy reflected on what he did wrong in his previous life and made sure it didn't happened with Paul . I also like that he has a hesitation when he thinking about saving people. It makes him more human to me. I also like his love of learning and how he does magic. I will say that his ED is definitely making him regressing him back to his worse impulses. He definitely bitter about not being able to form relationships.

actually the majority of the fan base really like him unlike what you thought but they don't agree with the things he dose

Rudeus will always be a pervert, the only difference is that really advanced in the story he well be mature and also with the person with who he does it will give him consent, so yeah un that aspect is a good way, and yeah Rudeus is not that type of MC that we said is “prefect” as human is not correct with his action, but at last in the end of the story (I’m LN reader) I can assure you that some lost that he has (you’ll see soon) made Rudeus Made his mind and be more aware that he has to take care of all people that share time with him and also enjoy all the little moments, no matter how simple could it be

IMO he touched her boob to see if that would fix his ED. Was it proper, absolutely not. But like he said he was testing something out. Rudy has better qualities than homelander and everyone love him lol.

rudeus starts to simmer down on the weirdness after this

Nice reaction guys. For the chapter and the MC, it's perfectly normal that you feel that way, thats the way should be, rudy is flawed, but he is growing up, nobody, as it is, NOBODY can grow up in a straight line, rudy had ups and downs, and will have ups and downs, Im not interested in "perfect" MC's, there's no human in the world "totally correct", "completely moral", or that always do "the right thing", that is the good thing about the show, like in this chapter, they bought a slave, but is not treated like a slave, more like an adopted child, that's good right? for the standards of that world, rudy had been imprisioned in doldia village and SA (cuz if you stripped a person from his clothes without consent, thats SA right?), so, in that world is not that weird, but for us IT IS, totally. So it is normal feeling this way about rudy and some other characters and his actions, it means you're healthy (at least in that way). Enjoy the show, it has much to offer. Greetings.

lol rudeus is a character that was written and created not for everybody to like, he wasn't meant to be the usual main character who is overpowered trying to change the entire would, but just a person who is controversial to the reader or the viewer. His actions and all are usually flawed and bs, but as time goes on he changes alot especially in this school ark. The slave thing was made alot more insensitive in the anime than the manga idky

Rudeus create a new Religion just like that 😂😂

The characters are flawed and grounded. You can be offended because it conflicts with your moral compass, but it doesn’t mean that you agree with those ideas if you like the show. You can like the movie Schindler’s List, but it doesn’t necessarily mean you agree with what they did. The same goes with other shows like Death Note where Light, the main protagonist, is a psychopath.

@HDApex

11 ай бұрын

If it really offends you, then you can just stop watching the show. But don’t try to go form a brigade to change the show that is original and creative like how some viewers who go to Twitter and voice their hot takes. Don’t try to censor artists and limit their creativity because all you’ll get is the bland and forgettable entertainment products that audiences are walking away from in western media. An example is the western comics falling behind the Japanese manga. Let the creators expand and explore ideas that we haven’t seen and let the audience decide for themselves afterwards.

@raec5426

11 ай бұрын

@HDApex I don't think they care to that extent, just not personally feeling some aspects. lol

@HDApex

11 ай бұрын

@@raec5426 I’m not saying that they did. I was just stating that a minority form groups to complain to companies and expand those complaints to Twitter. To not do these things.

@raec5426

11 ай бұрын

@@HDApex Yeah, it's not that serious.

Honestly yall should just drop the show again 💀 The anime is 99% about rudy and y'all clearly don't like him so there's really no point in forcing yourself to watch a show that just makes you upset 💯👌🏾

Leave it to Americans to be more understanding and forgiving to a bullied victim turn school shooter than a bullied victim turn a closed off degenerate with little sense of boundaries mental warped by past trauma and lack of social interactions 😅. Now I remembers why I drop ur reaction for this anime-

@j.aghoul3147

11 ай бұрын

U barely acknowledge and notice the realistic development of Rudeus character as the story. Most of the times It's like u forcin urself to watch this show just so u can get through it😅.

Rudy was pervy cuz he was desperate for sex, something he never got in previous life. Now he is fairly less pervy but still doesn't mind making a girl uncomfortable by groping her cuz he wants his mojo back. I cringed at that scene and think I wouldn't have done that out of consideration and all but Rudy was ruthless. He thought "These girls are bossy and troublemakers. Imma try to see if they can make me 'move'. I don't care if she gets a little uncomfortable." This dude really wants his mojo back.

When Eminence in shadow ep20 will come out ?

In the light novel Rudy says Julie is "like Zanobas little sister" instead of Junior disciple.

@georgeevans8774

11 ай бұрын

Same with the Spanish translation of this episode

@COTE002

11 ай бұрын

In Japanese he used the word 'imoto' which means little sister

Its always a great day when yall upload ❤

I just love the flawed characters and think they are dramatically much more interesting than traditional main characters. There’s also much more room for growth outside of power levels. That said, if I caught him tying up and groping my daughter like that, I’d brake both his arms at least.

I feel like they sometimes have more of a dark humor but overall I like the show tbh

Dont forget, this is an anime, drawings at the end of the day, it really isnt that deep.

I dont think the anime is trying to play any of his creepiness or weirdness as a joke. They are trying to show plainly how much of a pervert and creep he is. They don't try to sugar coat it at all imo. I read the novel so I know he becomes a much better person throughout the entirety of the story (as we follow him through most of his life) but i definitely understand why people feel like he's irredeemable as well. The author himself said though that he purposely made Rudy this way and to have him improve and become a better person over time, and that he doesnt expect everyone to do it and give him chance after chance. He said it's up to the viewers to decide how many chances they wanna give him. BTW, the author never apologized either, he just explained why Rudy acted how he did (in the anime, since he explained it/went more in depth in the novel). He made a second tweet after specifically pointing out that he wasn't apologizing and his prior tweet was mistranslated. It's funny how mad people were at this, but not mad at Shield Hero or hated Ketil in Vinland Saga (until we saw how much of a scumbag he is after).

If you read the LN you would know those two deserve it. They rule the school by fear until Fitz and the princess put them in their place that is why she was not upset with Rudy.

It kinda reminds me of the movie Revenge of the Nerds, it was a raunchy comedy back in the day but it was actually pretty messed up

To be real Rudy rubbed a dogs chest.

Rudeous took the oportunity and just did an experiment to see if his "friend" reacted to the "touching" of persuna´s puppy´s... i never saw that grin on his face like before, or him thinking about "stuff" wile touching her... he really was just experrimenting like he told Fitz. YES he is a creep and a perv... but he has improved a LOT since the begining of the show... you cant deny that, and i mean on the first episodes of season 1 you can see: Eris dad offering her to rudy hand tied to his bed as a birthday gift... this was not rudy being perv it was Phillip, or slavery everywhere... or kids drinking wine, or people being adults at 15, or rape: Paul raping Lillia when they were young and nothing happening to paul.... or a lot of things that i can put here but please... stop watching this anime doing your juddgment with real life standars cuz this is not RL... is a Tale from another world with a LOT of sexual stuff everywhere...

It is perfectly fine to not like rudeus but I think its just a waste of time and energy constantly have a discussion on why rudeus actions are bad. Its like reacting to a fast and furious movie and then going on for 10 min on the dangers of speeding in real life. This is a fictional story, there is no victim, there is no crime, and no one was hurt in the making of this show. We all know its messed up but see beneath the surface and see a greater narrative being told. Move on, enjoy the actual story or keep it pushin.

Rudy isn't hero. But he fits to the world he lives now. The moral in this world is shifted, you either accept the rules or not. What he did from your perspective looks like girls abduction and sexual harassment. But from the beast-girls' POV it was mating fight for dominance in the class. Rudy lived long enough in Boreas mansion with Ghislaine, in Doldia Village, to learn how they think and what make theirs behaviour corrected.

Stomp the chest and then cause brain damage with a rock = Laughing Touch the chest with your hand = OMG that's assault!

@phbrunetto

11 ай бұрын

That IS assault. You completely missed the point. What Rudy did IS wrong, he is flawed and understanding that is needed in order to appreciate his development. Besides, there was no brain damage but you already know that, you're just exaggerating to try to make a parallel but there isn't

@JS-kb4bk

11 ай бұрын

@@phbrunetto My point is that both are assault. Also, getting knocked out from an impact to the head is a concussion, which is brain damage.

I have never posted a comment in a reaction video so this will be a first but I have to point out something that everybody needs to realize this is a fantasy world where the rules are very different so some things that we find bad is not the same in that world for example they sell slave in a slave market and that’s normal,having multiple wives and that’s normal y’all need to stop hating on Rudy and just watch the character development smh

Nobody disrespects Roxy plus the dude has ED lay off him.

i luv Rudy. He is always himself and not pretentious... just saying(I know some of his actions well are questionable but for me he is still quite likable)

@terencebarnes7393

11 ай бұрын

Yea I agree. I think people who use to watched harems or ecchi anime back in the day are not as taken back by his actions. Even though I don’t think he would be in one, because if he was 100% he would not be hesitating like most of those MCs. People treat Rudy like he the worst character in the world. I would say his early actions were the worse in season1 ,but past 7 volume he pretty tame in comparison to season 1. Other then this episode he has been pretty tame.

Keep in mind that a lot of the fans of this show have read the light novels and likewise have much more context for these situations. To answer your question, most fans would probably say they like the world more than it’s main character, but that is mostly because Rudeus himself is a very small part of the actual “big picture” of Mushoku Tensei (can’t elaborate further without spoilers). A lot of Rudeus’ endearing moments as a protagonist either haven’t been adapted yet or were not touched on as much as they could’ve been. For me, I find that I actually love that the whole story of Mushoku Tensei is told from the perspective of Rudeus and a lot of other characters who are very flawed (Paul, Eris, Elinalise, Zanoba) but do the best they can when it matters. It makes the story feel a lot more grounded than if the main character was always in the right all of the time. It makes his losses feel warranted and his victories feel earned

I like Rudy but I do not endorse any of his actions. It's like how you can absolutely adore a super fucked up villain but obviously you DO NOT endorse any of their actions

If you wondering why is nobody looking for those 2 girls, well just like rudy they are free students too 😮 They are free to do what they want🌝❤️

Something can be both wrong and funny. Also, in a world where nobles can R people and get away with minimal consequences or outright buy them for it, one grope, while still wrong, is not that big of a deal.The beast girls where likely surprised it ended with just that. They dont live in a fair world by our standards. Not even close...

From what I was told, those Doldia girls were massive bullies to everyone. If you believe in karma, then you believe what Rudy did to them was (largely) well deserved. And strangely, based on their reactions at the end and their culture from the forrest episodes, I think Rudy just gained their respect by beating them up. I guess we’ll find out. I’m surprised the author thought to consider what would happen if you let someone tied up for just a few hours. Most stories would gloss over that type of thing, probably because it was unpleasant.

Here we go again hahaha

You guys are closest to.. Like me making my parents watch my favorite anime and I was nervous about your reaction to this episode.😂 Thinking you might drop this show again because of this filler like episode. And to answer your question at the end ..Im a fan of the whole show overall, like what you said, a lot of world building. about Rudues as a character.., I like his likeable aspects and just rub my face and ignore the weird and bad things he does.

It looks like people feel sorry about cat and dog. They are very roudy( violent ) until their fight with fitz and then Redues keeps them in place other wise every person in the school is herraced by them.

I do like Rudeus. In his previous life he was touch-starved with no compulsion to restrain his lust, this is illustrated clearly I feel during the fiat episode when he is lying down fapping to, based on his siblings reaction, rather degenerate/perverted content. Hence whe coming to the new world he has many misconceptions of sex and intimacy. This I feel is something quite empathisable with more people feeling socially isolated, and pornography addiction being so high. I don't agree or condone the actions that he takes, and the world generally pushes back against him for that also. The violence enacted against him by Eris early on could have easily killed or pralized him if he was hit or fell at the wrong angle - but because he is the protagonist it is played for laughs. Like wise him being stripped and left in a cage in the air for public viewing/shaming is a higher degree of SA than a chest touch or panty tug - kind of surprised that that didnt cause him traumatic flash backs tbh. But once again played for laughs. Over time his character is growing and unlearning the misconceptions he filled his head with in the previous life, and this ED arch is perfect for showing this as he is learning that connecting with someone on an intimate emotional level can be more of a turn on than any niche fetish stimulus, which is one of the biggest hurdles for him I feel.

To be honest it’s reality like 80% of single guys would do that or more it’s not something to like but hey it’s the story of someone who would

@jalenholmes216

11 ай бұрын

Ain't no way 80% of single guys would do that 😭 bring that percentage down pls lmao

@Eren13201

11 ай бұрын

Nah bro you gotta bring that percent down we not that bad

@ally4131

11 ай бұрын

You got that number out of your ass

@ydanime5657

11 ай бұрын

They will trust me am sure of that

@ydanime5657

11 ай бұрын

If you don’t you’re gay that’s it

The beast girls deserved it they were major bullies that beat up students and they were the ones who were stealing the princess underwear that rudy got blame for.

Rudy is a simple man, he likes roxy the first love of his life, he has a panty of hers to remember her, he has erectile dysfunction and is trying to cure it, he's just a man lmao

In the LN those two beast girls are a fun significant part. The “Boss” thing and other things…. auuuu! If you seen the movie “Porky’s” you will know…. auuuuu! 😄😂🤣 Note, the are a pair of bullies in the school. They had it coming.

In Rudy's mind: Fitz is dressed like a man, has white hair and dark dark shades to disguise the face. Sylphiette has green hair, dresses more like a girl and has beautiful red eyes. They could not be the same person... but something is familiar here. Fitz seems so... familiar... and easy to talk to. Like...

I like Rudy because I read the whole novel and I know how he changed, but at the moment the decisions Rudy made bother me, but that's the thing I'm not Rudy his past life and culture (Japan) has a lot to do with how He took those decisions.

Don’t listen to these people saying he a changed man. He still a dawg 😂

@francobanko6722

11 ай бұрын

Im an anime only and I already know this dude ain't gon change for Jack shit the bullshit is ingrained in his very being imma still watch tho 😂

@madhursaxena2645

11 ай бұрын

He does change significantly but maybe that development isn't your cup of tea.

@francobanko6722

11 ай бұрын

@@madhursaxena2645 oh yeah for sure it's not my cup of tea. I would rather a real moral redemption story over a self improvement story any day but the show is still entertaining none the less.

@madhursaxena2645

11 ай бұрын

@@francobanko6722 That's understandable. For me even the self improvement tale works as the series actually give the feeling of hope and moving on with the irony being that the series which is itself based on a fantasy setting is giving one the message of going out of your comfort zone and the ability to take those small little steps.

@francobanko6722

11 ай бұрын

@@madhursaxena2645 Ah I see

Sylphie had green hair last when Rudy saw her and it turned white in the teleport incident. So she is a couple of years older, her hair is white and she's wearing glasses. I'm surprised he didn't recognize her voice though.

@Guy8288

11 ай бұрын

Rudy was about 7 or 8 when he last saw her. So it's been about 7 years at least.

@XHobbiesPrime

11 ай бұрын

@@Guy8288 So it's been a long time then. He hasn't seen her since before he went off to tutor Eris. I forgot how long it's been for him.

I read the light novel of mushoku tensei and it was amazing because of the build of the world and the characters out of other isekai types. Rudy character development was so human being and relatable. This is why many people like him i guess. I was surprise about ur reaction but maybe because the novel describes him better than anime or maybe i like him from novel so i have little bias for him. My english is bad, sr abt that.

Just to relieve your pain, if you don't want to watch it, then don't watch it 😂

All I gotta say is this, Jaime Lannister or Rudeus Greyrat 😏