⚠ Don't miss out! Save money on your gaming laptop with our daily deals: gaminglaptop.deals 3:31 Meant to say the 4080 is more power efficient. It uses more power, but the FPS improvement is higher. The graph is correct, what I said is wrong.

@typerightseesight

10 ай бұрын

gotta do halo infinite its so cpu intensive i wanna see how it does on a laptop.

@Overthemountaim747

10 ай бұрын

Warhammer 3 would be a great addition to testing on laptops if possible, cheers.

@chrisbullock6477

10 ай бұрын

I think this is all very understood. No different in saying a RTX 4090 is more powerful than a 4070 or 4080 and of course uses more power....

@thehuman7274

10 ай бұрын

HELP MEEEEE!!! i have legion y530 after reinstall windows when i plugged monitor in to hdmi intel graphics still work (1-2% 3D) it wasn't like that before, when i plugged in to hdmi cpu 3d shows 0% and gtx1050ti took over all the work, whats the matter (all drivers are fresh)

@JarrodsTech

10 ай бұрын

@@typerightseesight That game is in the video.

Jarrod and everyone else: "just buy a 4080 instead of a 4070". Me: "sure blud, lemme pull another 1500€ out of my arsehole"

@lmaoded4854

10 ай бұрын

better buy a 3070ti and save money if you don't care about frame generation

@antalpoti

10 ай бұрын

@@lmaoded4854 same price as the 4070. I'm not saving a cent.

@XieRH1988

10 ай бұрын

the smart thing to do is not buy now but wait for the next generation, so that the previous gen becomes cheaper

@lmaoded4854

10 ай бұрын

@@antalpoti you sure about that? cuz in my country 3070ti is way cheaper than 4070

@JarrodsTech

10 ай бұрын

I mean, I demonstrated some cases in the video where it's only $200 more, you can't say it's not worth it then :) of course this will not apply everywhere around the world, and will vary based on pricing in your region, but you get the point.

Me who was thinking to buy 4050 Him: 4060 Is worth spending extra Me: okay then let's go for 4060 Him: 4070 is more superior Me: okay we have come to far let's get 4070 Him: 4080 is much better Me: 😢 Him: I think you should go for 4090 for extra fps Me: bruh ☠️

@tonygreen42

2 ай бұрын

In conclusion. 4060 20% better than 4050, 4070 20% better than 4060 , 4080 50-60% better than 4070 and 4090 is 10% better than 4080, so we have 2 leagues 506070 and 8090 , in my opinion 4080 is the best value

@paolodangelo2981

18 күн бұрын

It's important to have a good cooling, else performance stay only on the paper.

@dieaking6475

18 күн бұрын

​@@paolodangelo2981 nah i would say opt for the i9 processor next to the gpu makes 40 to 60fps run like butter. Yes low frames and still smooth image

@tommypearson9260

5 күн бұрын

@@tonygreen42 I don't know man i got a cooling pad for my G5 13620h and 4060-75w with 64gb DDR5-5600 I stay boosted to 2445mhz and it stays about 65-70c on demanding games even though it's 1080p i find it pretty decent and not that far behind a 4070 tbh

The difference in Spain is 4070 for 1500€ and 4080 for 2100€. I think ill stay with the 4070 laptop

At this moment, in BestBuy, the cheapest 4080 is costs 800US$ more than the cheapest 4070.

@guhbe385

10 ай бұрын

Yeah 4070s on sale are dropping big where 4080s are not probably because of the big difference.

@JarrodsTech

10 ай бұрын

Definitely wasn't the case when I got the screenshots 1-2 weeks ago for the pricing part of the video, so it definitely changes, check our deals site for sales (link in description)

@kylerclarke2689

10 ай бұрын

In Canada, the cheapest 4070 is $1700. The cheapest 4080 is $2900. Not exactly chump change.

@granthancock1944

10 ай бұрын

Yeah it’s so drastically different it makes the 4070 performance look like a bargain.

@pedro4205

10 ай бұрын

@@granthancock1944 If the 3070/ti hadn't "vanished" it would be a better deal also

I absolutely love the Power Scaling graph you did, I wish all the reviewers provided this information. I would love to see this graph for the Asus G14 - 4070, 4080 and 4090 variants

@denshaSai

9 ай бұрын

Yeah g14 at 125w would be great comparison. His graph did show the gap at 125w as a reference

@dieaking6475

18 күн бұрын

​@@denshaSaiI have 4070 140w

this conclusion of "just buy the more expensive model bro" is exactly why 'Ngreedia' created such a difference in performance between these cards. As consumers, you are being played.

@OkaySoShit

8 ай бұрын

Agreed

@leafbelly

3 ай бұрын

Being played because you get what you pay for? Mkay

@tonygreen42

2 ай бұрын

In conclusion. 4060 20% better than 4050, 4070 20% better than 4060 , 4080 50-60% better than 4070 and 4090 is 10% better than 4080, so we have 2 leagues 506070 and 8090 , in my opinion 4080 is the best value

@paradoxine6287

5 күн бұрын

all my fellas hate jason huang

The voltage limit is an incredibly disingenuous move on nVidia’s part. If they advertised these cards as up to 100w, that would be fine as a marketing tool for efficiency. Instead, they get to advertise more power, more better, without actually delivering on performance

@MegaMan01

10 ай бұрын

Yes, and it clearly holds back the 4070 immensely. It's fine to restrict voltage on battery power, but not when it's plugged in. Anyhow, I won't be suckered into buying a more expensive 4080 or any other 4000 series GPU for that matter.

@tenderandmoist5011

10 ай бұрын

@@MegaMan01yeah just get last gen at this point, 40 series is massively overpriced and is coming out left and right with false advertising and anti-consumer designs. The least controversal one so far is probably the 4060

@hemendraravi4787

10 ай бұрын

is it possible for them to remove this limiter in a future update for nvidia driver ?

@RyouConcord

9 ай бұрын

@@MegaMan01 yep yep. it's been difficult to recommend any gaming laptops this generation because of how confusing the names have gotten in relation to the performance you'll ACTUALLY see. I've been recommending last-gen laptops because I know more accurately what sort of performance to expect.

@aeriagloris4211

9 ай бұрын

​@@RyouConcordcan you give me some laptop or laptop card recommendations?

Your analysis and comparisons as always so thorough and accurate; so helpful to get the full picture. Thank you.

Sure the performance difference is large but the price is also large (Atleast in regions where i can buy it from) Usually it is around 400-600$ difference and then again you're not just looking at the GPU on paper when buying it. The TGP varies by models , plus the screen, cooling, battery life, upgradability all matter of the laptop all matter.

@Dampfheini

8 ай бұрын

I just paid 2300 EUR for an I7 13700H and RTX 4080 Laptop and it is amazing. A year ago I paid 1400 Eur for an I7 11800H plus RTX 3060 (95W) laptop which has about one-third the performance but more than half the price. This is in germany. So I do not know what you mean with expensive. Ppl pay way more for their rims here which is just stupid

@OkaySoShit

8 ай бұрын

​@@Dampfheinihi

@bobvance-

7 ай бұрын

Rims are sexy. You must not be a car guy.@@Dampfheini

@dsrxride

6 ай бұрын

@@Dampfheinilass leute doch schöne felgen kaufen 😂 btw welchen laptop hast du?

As always it just depends on price. If the price difference between a 4070 and 4080 is like 300 even 400 hundred dollars than by all means get a 4080. But right now you can get deals on 4070 laptops that make the price difference more like &700-$900. A Legion with 4070 can be had for like 1600-1700 right now, a 4080 version comes in 2500+. That's a gap in price that is actually bigger than the gap in relative GPU performance, as long as you are fine gaming at 1440p/1600p which these GPU's seem perfectly capable of handling.

I do agree with that statement, but I also think the 4070 has its place in thin and lights. The efficiency of this card is amazing laptops like the x13 and z13 are great examples of that

@JarrodsTech

10 ай бұрын

I agree

@diegobrava

4 ай бұрын

The 4070 is SO cold. i usualy get 70c in performance mode (Lenovo Legion 5i Pro)

@commandopml5695

4 ай бұрын

@@diegobravaIntel or AMD cpu? I'm also thinking to buy 5i Pro with i9 and 4070 so is the laptop a good package overall?

In Canada, the Legion 7i with a 4080 is going to be about $1,300 more than a Legion 5i with a 4070. Insane price difference, no reason to go for the 4080.

@nonpondo_

7 ай бұрын

That's where I'm at rn, I have no idea what the hell to do, it all seems so fucking bad

@sanizor

6 ай бұрын

​@nonpondo_ What you did? I'm exact same situation right now haha

@yogicentralyt

5 ай бұрын

@sanizor What did you do? I am also in the same situation 😅

@sanizor

5 ай бұрын

@yogicentralyt Well I missed the Black Friday offer but if I would had bought 4080 because it's more future proof. 8GB of VRAM will not be enough in few years. I will personally just wait till 5000 series will arrive and buy new laptop then because current one is running semi-fine.

@yogicentralyt

5 ай бұрын

@@sanizor should I do the same even though my current one is low end? Cant play any modern aaa games (2017 onwards basically with exception of few). I don't really have a job so relying on parents money. But i am planning on getting a job over summer (idk if i can handle Job and uni...). Guess I should wait one more year and save up for 5000 series, because my dad def aint getting me a 4080 one lol.

Great review. Would add a caveat -- I think the mfgs realize they aren't selling so managed to get a 4070 legion that I paid 4060 prices for (~1350$ w. 7745hx). 4080 capable laptops seem to be outside my price range and would set me back quite a bit more.

When pointing out how bad of a value the 4070m is you should also include the 4060m. Its ~10% slower but more than 10% cheaper and has the same 8gb vram.

I'm glad you mentioned the lower wattage of the 4080 on the Asus M16, makes me reconsider my options 🤔

That band you're wearing the T Shirt for are awesome. Oh yea, good video by the way.

You've played right into their hands. The entire purpose of the lower skus is to upsale for the 4080 and 4090

Hi Jarrod, from that video where you showed that above 100 W all 4060-70 perform the same (capped fps above 100w), I am looking ONLY at 4080 laptops. There is no point getting somethinng above 100W 4060. Thanks again!

In my country it was a 40 dollar increase in price switching from 4060 to 4070 in the configuration so i think it depends on the deal aswell. But the jump to a 4080 would be a few hundred dollars

@GewelReal

10 ай бұрын

I'd save 40$ and get a 2TB SSD

@aryanreddy7346

10 ай бұрын

@@GewelReal huh just spend 40$ more its not much when you already spend that much for a 4060

@4hedron852

10 ай бұрын

That's the only reason to go for the 4070 lol. 100 or less difference in value. 10% increase in perf if not less.

@GewelReal

10 ай бұрын

@@aryanreddy7346 then get 4TB SSD

@jonasaung6924

10 ай бұрын

You can't upgrade to 4070 after purchase.. 40 bucks for 4070 from 4060 is just worth it regardless

don't buy 4050 okay ı will buy 4060, don't buy 4060 okay ı will 4070, don't buy 4070 okay ı will 4080, dont buy 4080...

@Momentoman

2 ай бұрын

Click bate

@Fleepwn

Ай бұрын

4070 to 4080 leap seems to be the biggest one. I am not an expert, but based on research I've done lately, 4060 and 4080 absolutely seem to be the best value right now depending on your budget.

@danielkeslerjr4407

Ай бұрын

I got the rtx 4080 laptop gpu (lenova legion 9 pro) and the 4070 laptop chip (in a asus zephyrus m16). But, I only have 16g of ram in the asus, and 64g in the legion, so it's hard to compare no matter what, but the fps drops are so much less on the legion. lol.

@thraxberserker9960

Ай бұрын

@@FleepwnGoofy comparison, you’re going from $1500 range to over $2000 if not $2500

@RaneKunLovesNightcore

Ай бұрын

Fr 😭

4070 is made purposefully bad by NVIDIA, the gap is made artificially HUGE, so the gamers will choose the pricier option. Also there is literally no performance gain between 3070 and 4070 which is laughable :D

@KarlynGR

10 ай бұрын

No difference between 3070 and 4070? Then that means I can keep my 3070 laptop for a little longer!

@TabalugaDragon

10 ай бұрын

there is 10-15% performance gain, but it's still tiny considering that Lovelace is overall much more energy efficient, even without Frame Generation. They cut the 4070m artificially because it's a popular GPU class, so they can get maximum profit with minimal expenses on manufacturing. In short - a scam.

@sarthak-ti

10 ай бұрын

The 4070 is more akin to the 3070ti. But it’s still not great by any metric. The main use I’ve seen of it is power efficiency in thinner laptops but even then it’s not amazing. The only main benefit over the 3070ti is frame gen, but that’s only for the 15 games that support it

@mobgamerred8555

10 ай бұрын

@@sarthak-ti and for the ones that are to be released in near future as well

@keitatsutsumi

10 ай бұрын

I think you mean the 3070 ti, there’s actually a fair bit of performance improvement from the 3070

Unfortunately the "just spend more for 4080" didnt reach the box retailers ears. I'm seeing on average a $500-$700 price difference from 4070 to 4080. Also the laptops that come with 4k screens pushes the price to the $3200-$3500 range. You can get a 4070 i9 (H) for under $2400 from most places. Also for me I prefer thin and light laptops.

@VeeTwoPointOh

7 ай бұрын

Got one for 18!

I just bought Aorus 2023 with 4070. 4080 is around 1.2k$ more with Aorus 2022. I was fighting with myself to see it it's worth it and decided to go with redesigned Aorus with weaker GPU. I watched tons of your videos and the one about redesigned aorus helped me make this decision. Also, sick t-shirt as usual. I'm listening to Anno 1696 atm, loving the album so far.

Jarrod, I think you could have compared at least a few games at the same power limit to show differences that are not attributed to power alone.

Sadly, the 4080 laptops I was looking for were more than I was willing to spend. Luckily, at least these days, you can get some decent 4070 options on sale, which brings those $/frame numbers back in line.

@gsst6389

9 ай бұрын

How much where you willing to spend then? My limit atm its 3000$ what about yours?

@safinman

9 ай бұрын

@@gsst6389bro get a 4090 for $2600, lenovo legion pro 7i

@OkaySoShit

8 ай бұрын

​@@gsst6389lol

@HazardWolfCorp

7 ай бұрын

@@gsst6389 if you look around you can even snag a 4090 laptop at 3k, maaaaaybe a few hundred more but its like, if you are already dropping 3 grand whats a few hundred more for max performance for years to come.

But like if a 4070 is like 1500 usd or 1700 usd max then it may be better in terms of cost per frame.

Hey Jarrod! Can you please maybe review the MSI Bravo 15 with the RTX 4060? I believe it uses a 105W GPU which is exactly the sweet spot for performance as shown in your previous videos and it is sitting at a reasonable price.

Thanks for the information sir!

Wow, what a difference from the last generation, I personally have 130w 3070 and I am more than happy, because the difference between 3070 and 3080 was quite little and not worth the money. I didn’t expect this.

@siyzerix

10 ай бұрын

Wait till you compare lovelace's gains to pascal's gains. Pascal outright doubled performance over maxwell at every tier except the xx50 class tier. And even that was a 45 to 55% boost to performance. The gtx 1070 nearly trippled the 970m's 3gb vram and doubled its performance all for slightly more energy use. The 150w rtx 2070 super was a nice 40% improvement over the 1070 for mostly similar prices.

@GewelReal

10 ай бұрын

​@@siyzerixAda increased margins why whopping 100% this gen! Imlressive!

@thomassleziak1222

10 ай бұрын

@@siyzerix Got you, good to know, thanks for the info :D I wasn’t interested in graphic cards back then. I meant difference between 70 and 80 series tho, should have written in better :D

@siyzerix

10 ай бұрын

@@GewelReal Now Jensen can finally buy his dream leather jacket. Yay!

@siyzerix

10 ай бұрын

@@thomassleziak1222 Well, the 4080 is barely 60% faster than a pathetic 4070 (which lets be real is really a 4060). The gtx 1070 was also 60% faster than the gtx 980m when it came out AND used the same amount of power at that. So either way lovelace is a fail on the low to midrange in terms of performance improvement. And even at the high end, its performance improvements pale in comparison to pascal. Just for reference, during pascal we had SLI 1070 and 1080 laptops. So you can imagine the mockery they made out of maxwell's mobile GPU's.

I bought the 4070 legion slim 7 a couple weeks ago for $1525 before tax. It’s a beast and a 4080 would be too hot in the thin laptop

@thewinner4x873

10 ай бұрын

It would just as hot if not cooler due to the same power limit and larger die

@alanliang9538

10 ай бұрын

thats kinda overpriced. 4070 laptop in china be selling like 880 USD. so they litterally marked up 700 dollars on you lol

@churchofsatan2041

10 ай бұрын

You made a bad choice, stop trying to convince yourself otherwise.

@myjumpik

10 ай бұрын

​@@alanliang9538China man, not everyone willing to buy it from there and ship it. Too much hustle. Local shops are the easiest to buy from.

@darthmortem585

10 ай бұрын

​@@alanliang9538it's a thin laptop with a GPU in it, no shit it costs more, rnd moment

Thank you for the content, I am following you since a while, may you do a list o pc per Gamut or thell me where i can find it? thanks, Max

i am not sure if overvolting is a thing ( not that it was even required or even exists before or after the 40 series) but if it is a cosmetic voltage limit set by nvidia, if we bypass that, would stuff work /overheat and damage or second best case scenario, just crash completely?

het Jarrod, are there plans to review the framework laptop 16 by any chances ? (wouldn't be suprised if the awnser was no, since its quite an expensive AF laptop)

@cameronbosch1213

10 ай бұрын

He said he would _only_ if Framework sends one over for review. And it seems like they will.

@frieza1016

10 ай бұрын

@@cameronbosch1213 did I miss the video where he said that, or the info was release to only some people?

Just bought a i9 13900HX with RTX 4070 and I am extremely happy with the purchase. The performance boost with 4080 doesn't justify it's price by any means. In India the difference for the same configuration with RTX 4080 costs around $900 more which is not justified at all. Budget is a thing and it can never end if you keep stretching your means. If 4080 then why not go for 4090, one might also ask? I played Microsoft Flight Sim on the RTX 4070 and it is absolutely a beast in all aspects of gaming and productivity. The i9 13900HX processor and 4070 graphics card are a deadly duo. More than sufficient in all aspects.

@GatoCurioso-01

Ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing, in my case the money difference is not that much as the 900usd that you mentioned between RTX4070 and 4080. I would greatly appreciate your opinion please, I don't know which option to choose for work. I am debating between: Alienware M18 (18" 480hz screen + i9 13900HX + 32GB Ram + RTX 4080 + 1TB NVMe SSD) Vs. Lenovo Legion PRO 7 (16" 240hz screen + i9 13900HX + 64GB Ram + RTX 4070 + 1TB NVMe SSD + 2TB NVMe SSD + ). For the same price for both (about USD$2,000), which one would you select for content creation and especially video editing, rendering, etc.? Starting from the fact that I currently work on content creation and video editing from an HP (15" screen + i7-7500U + 16gb ram + 1gb AMD Radeon + 1TB M.2 SSD) and it lags when I'm editing videos, when It starts to export, it gets quite hot and I practically have to leave it alone in that activity so as not to force it... Thanks in advance!

@gadielcomas8012

Ай бұрын

@@GatoCurioso-01 Legion Pro 7 has better specs and I don't know about Alienware software but Lenovo software is absolutely amazing and you can personalize almost every aspect of the laptop, it's important cause if you have temperature problems you can undervolt it. Since you create content more ram is better but you should investigate about display quality ( coverage of SRGB %, DCIP3 %, Adobe %, etc) also 18" is more visible to work but less portability, so if you use to move with the laptop frequently 16" is better. PD: English isn't my first language, so sorry if something is wrong. If you have something else to ask I have no problem answering.

@silentspatter6839

Ай бұрын

I honestly think you should go with Alienware, I can now say that with confidence and I will tell you why. No matter what specs you are looking into any "gaming" rig released in the last few years is almost guaranteed to run any AAA game properly and will most likely remain that way for 3-5 years depending on selection. However you could have parts or technical issues in that time frame that most companies make you jump through hoops to deal with. Except apparently Alienware, they are such a massive company they can offer remote and on site tech support, parts and accidental damage replacements, etc. I forgot the channel but a reviewer on gaming laptops talks about this subject in depth. If you go through Dell you can get the premium support sub for like 20-25$ a month which offers it all upon purchase of a gaming rig. Any other company you will probably be mailing away your laptop and waiting possibly weeks before you see it again. When spending thousands on a gaming laptop you want the best, fastest, and most affordable and convenient solution to any problems that may occur. For me half the reason for not wanting to spend big bucks on a new gaming laptop was a lack of options when it came to possible technical issues and fast affordable solutions. It would seem only Alienware offers that, I'm about to get the M18 4070 right now as we speak with the premium sub. Games will run great and they will look good doing it, some people are hard core performance snobs when it comes to small percentages of an increase here or there, personally I am more concerned with quality assurance.

Thank you for all this. Just watched it and landed a sick Pro 7i with a 4080 for less than 2100usd from your site. That is bonkers even in April of 24. The 2070 pro 5i is being sent back unopened today. And the 2070 5i was 50 dollars more! You saved me money and sent my machine into the stratosphere

I came here for the content and I formation but I stayed for the sick band shirts you always wear, I love your taste in music and quality content. Thank you.

The 4080M might blow the 4070M away in performance, but it's not as if you'll get bad performance from the latter (especially if you undervolt). I think if you want decent performance but want to save a bit on the laptop cost (a same spec laptop with a 4080M instead of a 4070M is £700 more expensive from a store near me) as well as your electricity bill, the 4070M is good enough comparatively: 4070M: 115 Watt (35 - 115 Watt TGP), 4080M: 150 Watt (60 - 150 Watt TGP)

Unfortunatelly in Czech Rep. cheapest 4080 variant is 2800+ $

@JarrodsTech

10 ай бұрын

Yeah probably not worth it then.

@vijaykumarvc66

10 ай бұрын

​@@JarrodsTech​​ Acer Predator Helios 16 Gaming Laptop 13th Gen Intel Core i9 (Windows 11 Home/16 GB RAM/1 TB SSD/NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 4070) PH16-71 Please Review This Laptop ASAP Most of them wanted to buy it coz it's Up with Lenovo Legion Pro 5i Laptop series

@vijaykumarvc66

10 ай бұрын

​@@JarrodsTech By the Way I Love The Tech Content Of Your Channel Lot's of ❤ From India

@ryujim-vo6lq

3 ай бұрын

crazy ass price

@zyzzin6950

24 күн бұрын

In Norway also. Why so expensive? You could buy a car for that price 🤣🤣

Thank you for the advice kind sir.

Thank you for the great review! How much ticker and heavier are 4080 laptops? I am afraid there is a significative jump

I've bought myself asus zephyrus m16 with rtx 4070 for $1600. I find this purchase a great deal for 2 primary reasons. 1) It was a huge upgrade from my old gtx 1060 6gb laptop that served me well for long 6 years(btw still performs great in not heavy games). 2) And I could not push my budget any further to afford rtx 4080. They are too damn expensive. Therefore, I have no regrets on this regard.

@marnix9800

5 ай бұрын

I bought a Lenovo Legion Slim also with a RTX4070 card. the 4080 was €600 more and since I am not a hardcore gamer I don't think it was worth paying that amount.

@ryans3795

5 ай бұрын

I just got an 4070 laptop (not recieved yet) becuase I got a 600 dollar sale discount which put the 4080 at over 1000 difference. I currently have an old 970m with 3 gb vram and and a 4 core processor. The 970m is now a 1080 low graphics laptop. Gpu difference is like a 350% increase and cpu is 10% better than my desktop 5800x. This laptop will last me like 4 generations hopefully (maybe more with dlss3)

@sa1dzhan

5 ай бұрын

@@ryans3795 good for you. I think rtx 4070 laptops will serve good for at least 4 years. May be sometimes you will have to twitch the graphic settings or just go down to 1080p to play on ultra, but anyways you will get great gaming experience overall. Happy gaming!

@TishSerg

5 ай бұрын

@@ryans3795 * me looking at my GT 740M * * cries in pepe *

@Legitti

5 ай бұрын

Got myself Legion Pro 7i with RTX 4080, coming from same GTX 1060 and it's great

4060 for less than half the price of the cheapest 4080 I found is the direction I went. More power to you if it's your main gaming rig

Brother keep up the good work👍👍👍 I always use your video as reference for analysis of different computer components. Love from India ❤🧡🤍💚❤️

I love your reviews. always useful! :)

The reason this comparison doesn't work is that a 4080 is almost always $700 more and is usually featured in totally different laptop bodies. We are talking about much thicker machines. For laptops, portability is king even more so than power. So if you have a 100W 4070 laptop you are likely in a significantly better laptop sweet spot than 4080 laptops for price, power, portability, and battery. I love a chonky powerful laptop as much as the next tech nerd on youtube, but I also recognize the slimmer, more usable machine is a better consumer option

@Lukashoffmann94

10 ай бұрын

Different laptop chassis? Pretty much every 4070 laptop, that I know of, can also be found with a 4080 variant. The price is retarded though. An upgrade cost of more than a full desktop 4070ti, which uses the same chip as the laptop 4080, is just scalping. Feels like the oems all signed contracts at the height of the mining boom and now just pass those prices on to their customers.

@Keevsnick

10 ай бұрын

@@Lukashoffmann94 Yes! This! You could ALMOST build a whole gaming PC with a 4070 desktop GPU, roughly equivalent to the 4080 laptop GPU, just for the price difference between a 4070 and 4080 laptop. Its insane. There's no middle ground.

@diegobrava

5 ай бұрын

@@Keevsnick i agree. Better have a 4070 laptop + 4070ti Desktop than a 4080 laptop.

i'm really torn between the 4080 lenovo 7 and the lenovo slim 7 - it really sucks because a lot of the quality of life features that they got rid of on the former exist on the latter, but the latter is just not as powerful. i get that they can't put a 4080 into that slim chassis, but taking away portability, the lenovo slim this year is actually more attractive in every way except the gpu. not sure if that makes sense but yeah. in all cases i'm waiting until prices stabilize where i am, because the markup is insane. thanks for the vid!

@DavidPruitt

10 ай бұрын

I bought the slim, I'm not disappointed. I got mine on sale for $1700. Better battery life, better portability, and you can even game using the USB-C charger.

@sodiumsalt

10 ай бұрын

What quality of life features do you mean?

@sodiumsalt

10 ай бұрын

@@DavidPruitt Do you mean a phone's USB C charger?

@techp0p

10 ай бұрын

@@sodiumsalt missing windows hello + fingerprint sensor; missing lightup I/O on the back; plastic chassis instead of metal; jarrod has covered these extensively in his lenovo legion 7i pro review

@jayway6411

10 ай бұрын

@@DavidPruitt doing normal light task, how long does your battery last?

Thank you so much, Jarrod! This helped me make the decision to get the MSI GP68HX on discount which has a 4080 in it while being substantially less expensive than most other RTX 4080 laptops.

@weeqs1636

9 ай бұрын

Are you happy with it ? I bought it today and I wasn’t sure either I’d go with one that have better resolution 1440p and larger screen but with a 4070 or the MSI

@rynetemp

8 ай бұрын

​@@weeqs1636 I'm very happy with the purchase as I got it for $2499 discounted from $3000 in my local currency. That actually made it comparable to some of the more higher-end 4070 laptops which can retail for around $2500 or a little less although less premium 4070 laptops can be found for a lot less. Been using the GP68HX Vector for 1.5 months now. I would totally take the GP68HX Vector over another laptop with a 1440p screen and a mobile 4070. The issue with the mobile 4070 is that it only has 8Gb VRAM which is going to age poorly especially at 1440P. The most VRAM-intensive games are already eating up ~9Gb VRAM at a time at 1080P ultra settings such as Hogwarts Legacy or The Last of Us Part 1. That is going to cause stuttering on a mobile RTX 4070. I would not be surprised if in about 2 years the RTX 4070 can barely handle 1440P and even has trouble at 1080P on higher settings. It is only going to be worse at 1440P. The mobile RTX 4080 in the GP68HX Vector has 12Gb of VRAM and is quite powerful which will allow it to age well with a 1080P screen. I plan to keep new computers for at least 4-5 years. I might have to turn down settings at the tail-end of that timeline but we do have DLSS now to help improve framerates. I don't think you will regret buying the GP68HX Vector. The configuration for your GP68HX Vector might be a bit different depending on region. Mine has a 12th-gen Intel Core i9 12900HX and 32Gb of DDR5 RAM in addition to the 4080 which made the cost worth it for me. I can see that the last-gen i9 could have been a cost-saving measure but it keeps up with the 13th-gen i7 13700HX which makes it a non-issue for me. The 1080P also seems to be a reasonable cost-saving measure - it doesn't have G-Sync or Advanced Optimus although those are not deal-breakers for me. All the other RTX 4080 laptops available started at ~$3500 in my currency which made the GP68HX vector a great deal! It would be cool to see @JarrodsTech review it and give his thoughts on some of the cost-saving measures and apply his in-depth testing to it. @GizmoSlipTech and @TechGuyBeau do have reviews and benchmarks on it in case you want to see them

Hey can you review the manta 16x laptop from aftershock PC? With the added water cooling. I haven’t seen anyone review it yet it would be nice seeing you review it.

I got the 4070 Asus Zephyrus G14 and I'm honestly quite happy with it. I got it for a good price. It would have been another $750 to move up to the 4080 and while I seriously considered it, that's a big difference. So far, it runs everything I want pretty well.

@bean_ctm724

10 ай бұрын

What do you play

@railgun1935

10 ай бұрын

Even the 3070ti Or a 4060 would run almost. Similarly.

@shirokuro73

10 ай бұрын

@@railgun1935 yes probably. I was intending to get the 4060 TBH but then best buy did a discount on the 4070, I got it for I think $100 more than the 4060, at that price I figured why not get the extra little bump.

@railgun1935

10 ай бұрын

@@shirokuro73 would have done the same..

@mr.poteitou

8 ай бұрын

​@@railgun1935still 100 its not a big deal bruh

Haha, i already pulled the trigger on the 4070. It is largely the same as the 3070ti last year. Coming from a 80w 3060 it was very nice. In my country, the 4070 is around 70%- 50% the cost of a 4080 laptop. Sure it can perform x1.5 better, but at nearly 2x the price, i would pause at the thought. The only thing i miss with the 4070 would be 12gb vram, 8 is not really enough in some less optimized game. Also, the chassis that come with 4070 (legion 7i in my case) is a lot nicer than the cheap Gigabyte G5 that was my old laptop. I really appreciate the sound and visual quality improvement that come with the change. Price to performance stop matter when you cross certain threshold that is outside your budget. I would suggest Jarrod make some vids on laptops that are good for their price range, i think that would be for the best. A laptop that could reach 20 usd per frame would not be exactly exciting to an average person if it cost 5k usd to purchase for example. That is a lot of money. I would recommend that if you come from anything 3060 and up, don't. But if you come from 3050 and below, it does make a large change, esp since 4070 chassis are usually higher end model that have some nice features that come along if the budget allow it.

@ecru_dlh8327

10 ай бұрын

Looking for a upgrade too my g14 2021 but with a price of between £2,600-3k for a 4080 I think ill sit this gen out

@manuelmunguia616

10 ай бұрын

you upgraded from the 3060ti to this 4070? oh brother....

@hoanghanguyenvinh8476

10 ай бұрын

@@manuelmunguia616 no, from a laptop 3060 80w to 4070 laptop. The gain is large for me, since it has better speaker , wifi and screen. 3060ti doesnt exist on laptop.

@siyzerix

10 ай бұрын

Wait, so why not buy 3070ti laptop? Even the budget models like the nitro 5 pack top tier displays (1440p 165hz 100% srgb panel with at least 300 to 330nit brightness), USB-C charging, pretty decent speakers, good keyboard, great upgradability (more than the legions even), etc. Infact, my 3070ti laptop costed me half as much as a 4070 one in my place. And I was coming from a 1650 + 4600h ideapad 3 gaming laptop. Also, as you move up the tiers the scamminess of gaming laptops start to increase. For example, compare lovelace's gains to pascal's 1070. The gtx 1070 outright doubled the 970m's performance if even more than doubled it. It almost trippled vram and all that for 15% more power draw and kept largely the same price. THAT is a generational leap, not this pathetic rtx 4080's improvement over the rtx 3070ti (yes, the 4080 is really the 4070ti of laptops and the 3070ti is the real rtx 3070m as its the same desktop 3070 chip). Infact, it really should've packed 16gb of vram for its asking price. And the current rtx 4090 simply has too low of a power draw. It should be around 230w and thats entirely possible considering 3 years ago we had 200w laptop GPU's.

@kunalbhat4570

10 ай бұрын

@@siyzerix hahahahhaah brother i have the same one. i got it for 1340 usd what about you

i think some chunk of the performance difference also comes with the 4gb extra vram that the 4080 has so it also gets some headroom there to spread its legs

After price matching at Best Buy and with the dell sale, and the 10% coupon added on made it go down to 1300$ usd with the 16GB DDR5 Ram, I7 13709HX, 4070, 2560-1600 Resolution. The 4080 model for me was 2,822$. I already own a 4090 beast desktop rig and needed something weaker to play old games like medieval 2. For that price difference and the great sale I got, I can’t justify the price gap at all, plus ultra settings aren’t really needed in games at all especially with the small screen and beautiful panel as it’s not the R2 line. Honestly for the price I got I think it blows the 4080 model out of the water for price to performance, also the weight of the m18 4080 model with the big battery doesn’t really make it portable at all, while my m16 is a lot less weighty and can take it around a lot easier. Overall very happy with my purchase

Rtx 4070 is barely better than 4060 while 4060 is much cheaper, also only 8gb vram Also 4060 is not much better than 4050 but many people still prefer rtx 4060 because of more vram

@ayusoraua570

10 ай бұрын

yea for entry GPU better choice 4060 and for mid go 4080

@d1kgaws12

10 ай бұрын

@@ayusoraua570 4080 should NOT be considered “mid tier" due to the high price.

@ayusoraua570

10 ай бұрын

@@d1kgaws12 nah if you want high end 4000 series just buy 4090 because the gap between 4090 and 3090 is fcking huge. dont bother buying below 90 series lol

@darthmortem585

10 ай бұрын

​@@ayusoraua570Rtx 3090 laptop GPU doesn't exist 💀

@d1kgaws12

10 ай бұрын

@@ayusoraua570 Assuming you misunderstood my reply, I was trying to say that because of the 4080's price, we shouldn't be calling that "mid tier". It's priced as a high end card. Also there's no 3090 laptop gpu.

It's worth noting that the Zephyrus M16 with a 4080 comes with a mini led display which is substantially better than any of those other screens. I had a Zephyrus purchased with a 4070 that I was supposed to pick up today but ended up cancelling it because it didn't have the mini led.

@Rapunzel879

10 ай бұрын

It's also worth noting that the CPU in the Zephyrus (13900H) is a massive downgrade compared to the top-of-the-line (13900HX) that is available on non-mini LED laptops. You are trading perfomance for brightness, which is simply ludicrous.

@Cenot4ph

10 ай бұрын

great that it has a good screen, but it sacrifices on everything else. Lenovo's cooling solution is just a lot better for instance

@bogotstogoskiing

10 ай бұрын

@@Rapunzel879 Ah, I didn't realize the processor difference! That's a good point.

@bogotstogoskiing

10 ай бұрын

Ended up buying the Legion today. It's on sale for $2249 with a 4080, 32gb, 1tb nvme if you use Coupert. Thanks!

@Rapunzel879

10 ай бұрын

@@bogotstogoskiing Congrats! I''ve gone with the Gygabyte Aorus 17x with a 4090, 32GB, and 2TB nvme. After a couple of months of wait, I'm getting it tomrrow!

Hi Jarrod, don’t the graph at 2:05 and the graph for fps/watt at 3:33 suggest that the 4080 is the MORE power efficient one? It can’t go as low as the 4070, but for the same power, the 4080 should outperform the 4070, right?

@JarrodsTech

10 ай бұрын

Please refer to pinned comment update.

@Summer-xu8qu

10 ай бұрын

@@JarrodsTechwhoops, I just saw it, thanks for clarifying!

@vijaykumarvc66

10 ай бұрын

​@@JarrodsTech​​@JarrodsTech@ JarrodsTech Acer Predator Helios 16 Gaming Laptop 13th Gen Intel Core i9 (Windows 11 Home/16 GB RAM/1 TB SSD/NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 4070) PH16-71 Please Review This Laptop ASAP Most of them wanted to buy it coz it's rivalry is with Lenovo Legion Laptops

Excellent review. You may also want to consider a performance per cost per power consumption. I think that will make the comparison fair especially for those who really need a gaming laptop on the go. What is the benefit of an extremely powerful laptop when it can't stay ON without being plugged in. I might as well wait to play a game when I am on my desktop with an even more powerful CPU and GPU.

@bobvance-

7 ай бұрын

Nobody is using a gaming laptop without being plugged in.

The cost difference is too huge in many markets. Competition from AMD RX7800S, 7800M, 7900S, 7800M XT is our only hope

@siyzerix

10 ай бұрын

Have you not seen AMD's rx7600S being an utter failure and disappointment? Its $1100 for a GPU that's no faster than a 3060, while rtx 3070ti laptops cost $970 and beat it by a solid 40-45%. Even a rx7600mxt (which I am sure will be the same price as full power 4060 laptops) will be no faster than a 4060. So whats the point? Whats AMD doing on the laptop space? The same thing as nvidia. Mark my words, they're gonna force you to buy their rx7800m and up laptops given only the rx6800m was worth even looking at last gen.

@ea1766

10 ай бұрын

@@siyzerixamd gpu laptops always cost less than nvidia ones, what are you talking about? Plus the amd gpu’s are always better value.

@siyzerix

10 ай бұрын

@@ea1766 Name 1 rx6600m laptop right now thats cheaper than a rtx 3060 laptop. Or name 1 rx6700m laptop thats cheaper than the 3070ti laptop. Infact, right now on newegg the nitro 5 150w 3070ti with 6800h costs $970. Thats lower than the strix amd advantage with the slower rx6800m.

@jeffertztech

10 ай бұрын

@@siyzerix I would rather have the extra 4gb of vram for an extra 100 dollars even if it is slightly slower. I've seen the g15 aa go on sale for 1100 dollars multiple times and I would say having 12gb of vram is alot better for modern gaming than 8gb of vram.

@siyzerix

10 ай бұрын

@@jeffertztech I did want the g15, but it was like $200 to $250 more expensive than my 3070ti nitro 5. And the 6800m seems to be a good 10 to 15% slower than the 3070ti. I also don't play that many modern games so the vram isn't as big of a limitation for me.

Going from the 4070 to the 4080 is a big jump, unfortunately. It's crazy how much GPUs are now.

@DirtyHardSock

5 ай бұрын

It'll get better sweet flower. The 5000 series in 2025 will be half the cost of the 4000 series and up to 4x more powerful due to a new patented 3D chip design that basically packs 4 GPUs on one chip.

Nice review but I really wish you'd compare these for generative AI such as image gen

Hey Jarrod! I've got an issue. I am choosing between two laptops Strix G16. The first one has i9 14th gen but 4070. The second one has i7 13th gen but 4080. I'm considering the 4080 after your video, but also looked the benchmarks for i7 13gen vs i9 14gen and i9 just smashes it. I would like to not replace my laptop for another 4 years minimum, so could you please advice here? Thank you

4070 would be great for thinner designs like the Legion Slim and Zephyrus. Otherwise, it's disappointing to see that Nvidia gimped the lower offerings in favour of the higher tier just like their desktop GPU lineup. Worst of all? This will be in favour of the Ti version coming out next year.

@JarrodsTech

10 ай бұрын

Yeah 4070 makes sense there. I am testing the Blade 14 at the moment and it's basically the same as a way thicker laptop - doesn't make sense there, but it does have good efficiency and make sense in much smaller devices.

@joelconolly5574

10 ай бұрын

@@JarrodsTech hope we see more of these thin and light with top of the line specs even if just 4070. Though better if companies treat such low wattage GPUs with more thin and light offerings and just the right cooling capacities.

@naipigidi

10 ай бұрын

Still sucks ngl

Here in Europe cheapest model～1400 euro vs 2300, I would still consider a 4070 or 4060 laptop

@rodrimora

10 ай бұрын

A Lenovo legion 5 doesn’t even have the option of a 4080 in Spain neither does the legion 7

@OkaySoShit

8 ай бұрын

I already

So if I'm understanding this correctly, if I'm deciding between a model of the ROG Zephyrus M16 would I be better off getting the 4070 version with the slimmer profile/thermals of the Zephyrus? The 4080 would thermal throttle and wouldn't be as powerful because of the 145W power limit? At that point if form factor isn't THAT important to me, would it just make sense to bite the bullet and get the ROG Strix Scar 16 with the 4080 with it having 175W?

@mitchp30

15 күн бұрын

That what I was thinking too, the 4080 is in the same form factor/cooling setup as a 4070, but pushes 40-75 more watts.. it's probably less likely to thermal throttle on the 4070 so would it make better sense to get the 70 for long term?

Hi Jarrod and Thank You for this video: Question, Would you buy a Dell XPS 17 9730 4080 laptop with FHD+ resolution or 4070 laptop with UHD resolution, same specs?

That 12GB VRAM is further future proofing 4080. Thank you for the insight.

@patricklecrane9546

10 ай бұрын

yes! im playing on 2k with my 4080 laptop, and its a beast for the next years

What laptop are you using for the 4070 representation? Feel like some of those benchmark results are very very low. I have a 4070 Lenovo Legion 5I Pro and on Metro Exodus Enhanced ultra everything 1440P 144hz I get at least 70-90FPS at all times

@zyzzin6950

24 күн бұрын

Yeah I agree! I have Legion 5 slim with RTX 4070 / Ryzen 7840HS. I get also around 70-90 fps on most games on 1440p 165 hz

Thz for sharing👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@JarrodsTech

9 ай бұрын

Welcome 😊

Hey JT, have you also considered to review the so called content creator laptops? Would be interesting to see how they stack up to each other (and compared to gaming laptops). I myself do some light gaming so i dont need the best gaming gear. As i do alot of content consumption (streams, netflix etc) i am looking more into the screen quality now, and also abit of sound quality. But i am not going to completely give up gaming aspects. So screen response times, shifts etc are still important as well as colour accuracies, contrasts and the like, now.

@JarrodsTech

10 ай бұрын

I typically only have time for overviews on content creator laptops at the moment. Unfortunately, they don't perform as well as gaming laptops on the channel, so that is what we prioritise.

I just picked up an Aorus 15x with 13900hx and rtx 4070. Only paid $1200, and it runs games fine. It's also not needing to render 4k but only 144p. I put the extra money in an m2 drive and more ram.

Other than DLSS3 my 3070 Ti is basically the same as the 4070. This year is pretty underwhelming GPU-size, since you need to bump one tier (70 to 80) to get considerably better performance. Only the CPUs got a nice improvement, but partially thanks to "raw power" since last year "H" CPUs were prevalent (the Alder Lake "HX" CPUs did not see widespread use). This year both Intel and AMD decided to just release slightly power limited Desktop CPUs and their top tier Mobile offering.

@Risa222

10 ай бұрын

The only advantage in 4070 is AV1 enconder, which is irrelevant if you don´t work with videos or stream.

@stefdezy1562

10 ай бұрын

Have you actually tested them against one another? In all of my testing, the 4070 beat the 3070ti by ~10%+ *before* frame-gen. The gap has seemingly only gotten wider with driver updates too. With DLSS3, of course, the results are incomparable altogether. Regardless, the generational gap *should* have been larger, but I suppose a premium is to be paid for innovation. Dev’s very well may eventually begin to rely on technologies such as frame-gen for more and more graphically demanding titles in the future (perhaps a few series’ down the line), when games become near-impossible to run through traditional means. By that time, such technology will no doubt be heavily developed and matured into a state that it wouldn’t make much sense *not* to use it. However, for the time being, I suppose said premium is to be paid for the possibility of future innovation, which kinda sucks. Again, the generational leap should have been larger, regardless.

@SegaFan-dm9ch

10 ай бұрын

that's surely not true because all independ benchmarks show that the 4070 is much better...Sorry

@stizzywitdaglizzy9301

10 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, no. The 4070 is still 5-15% faster on average than a 3070ti in pure rasterized-performance. However, to be fair, that *is* quite close considering the generational gap, relatively speaking (before frame-gen, at least).

I've been waiting for this video!

3:32 aren't those flipped? Or more like watts perf FPS? Otherwise it shows the 4080 being more efficient

I was close to buying a laptop, but then got a desktop. For gaming laptops in general are more expensive and thier gpu cards are not max TGP 💀. You can get better performance for cheaper with a desktop pc

@lil_brumski

10 ай бұрын

We don't care.

The price difference is so great its almost comical. $500+ at least

9:15 Thanks @JarrodsTech for the little humor you weaved into this review =). Nice!

I wait for the next generation and see if pricing drops or if there are good sales.

what about a 4070 vs a 4060 laptop comparison? Knowing whether or not the rtx 4070 is worth the extra cost would be very helpful!

@anjaliamitaghera9589

10 ай бұрын

He has done

@anjaliamitaghera9589

10 ай бұрын

10 percent performance difference

@Hunter-un9cf

10 ай бұрын

@@anjaliamitaghera9589 oh okay, that's good to know. So the rtx 4070 is apprently the worst in this year's series.

I think a comparison between the mobile 4060 and the 4070 would be more interesting to see. Because since both cards have 8gb vram, i keep wondering if it's worth spending extra money to get a 4070 or do i basically get the same thing with the 4060.

@JarrodsTech

10 ай бұрын

I'm working on it at the moment, should be up in a few weeks

@sodiumsalt

10 ай бұрын

I have this same question. I went for a 4060 over a 4070 laptop as I didn't see value in spending 200$ more for a legion with 4070 + i9 cpu over 4060 + i7

Bro, discuss Chrome vs Microsoft Edge Ram usage during its use and the advantages and disadvantages of the 2 browsers, and lastly your income about each of these browsers 👍🏻

As always, an excellent and helpful review!

Ouch. Nvidia really upselling the RTX 4080 12GB laptop here with the 4070's weak 8GB vram buffer. At least the 8GB VRAM it isn't as much of a concern for 1080p on laptops compared to desktop where you have bigger monitors... until you add a larger external display to your laptop.

Jarrod fell into sales tricks by Nvidia 😂 offcourse they won't let 4070 perform because no one bought 3080/90s last year, now they're just tricking us, giving 4060 an 8gb vram, same as 4070, and the next option is +4gb, and plus 100ss of dollars.

didnt you release a review recently saying your favorite laptop was a legion 7i with a 4070

When will you review the MSI Pulse 15 RTX 4070?

To be honest, the sweet spot is still the 3070Ti, im skipping the four thousand series, hopefully Nvidia does better next year with the five thousand generation.

@lil_brumski

10 ай бұрын

We're not getting 5000 series next year.

I feel Jarrod is going to upset a lot of people, because in most cases the 4080 is significantly more money, considering laptop prices have increased and a 4060/4070 class laptop is already a stretch.

@JarrodsTech

10 ай бұрын

Ah well, can't help everyone who doesn't have enough sense to realize I'm specifically focusing on US pricing examples (where most of the audience is from).

@dustychuck6709

10 ай бұрын

@@JarrodsTech Yes Yes we love the American's, but maybe you could include cost perspectives from other regions to? don't forget your home country lol.

@vijaykumarvc66

10 ай бұрын

​​@@JarrodsTechAcer Predator Helios 16 Gaming Laptop 13th Gen Intel Core i9 (Windows 11 Home/16 GB RAM/1 TB SSD/NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 4070) PH16-71 Please Review This Laptop Sir ASAP I wanted buy it after your inputs and Thoughts on it

@manuelmunguia616

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, take best buy out of the question as it isonly available in a few countries and US is the one that gets these prices, all the other regions get $1000-1500USD pricier version on the 4080 laptops

@vijaykumarvc66

10 ай бұрын

@@manuelmunguia616 Whom did you tell bro ???? Is that suggestion for me,...??

Sorry if I missed this info Jerrod, would you say that between the Zeph M16 and the Scar 16 (both with a 4080) the Scar would be the better choice due to the available wattage? (I also hear the M16's screen has some haloing and is more matte-esq).

@JarrodsTech

10 ай бұрын

If your priority is maximum performance then yes

Can you please provide the links for canadian websites as well, because I can’t find the discounted laptops with the link when I am in Canada.

so the 4080 for this generation is basically what the 3070 ti was like for last generation, and the 4070 is basically like a higher-tier version of the 3050 ti. my philosophy is to either go high-end (but not bleeding-edge) or just-good-enough, so it’ll be between the 4050 and the 4080 for me.

Price wise, the only sweet spots in this gen of gaming laptops are the 4060 ($1100) and the 4080 ($2000).

@vitaliibraslavets

10 ай бұрын

Here in Europe is more like 4060 1500€ at least but most are way more expensive and 4080 is like 3000€ at cheapest currently.

@MTN1601

10 ай бұрын

in Vietnam, the cheapest laptop with rtx 4060 is only 1065$ (converted) while the 4080 one is 3237$ (converted), literally 3x times more expensive

What about real life performance difference in Davinci + After Effects for video editing between those cards...?

Jarrod framework laptop specially 16 inch one with gpu. Any review in mind or any opinions?

Which is the 4070 though? Because I can say that the 4080 is a 4070 and the 4070 is a 4060. In any case, one would be more powerful, 50% more Vram but insanely highly priced. The other one is downgraded it is not even worth looking at it, especially with that voltage limit

The problem with this is the larger liquid cooled laptop. Once you start factoring in cost and smaller laptops I'm betting these numbers would change. A lot. I bought one with a 4070 based on sales price and form factor. I would be more interested in the same comparison on a more thermally constrained system. My 4070 starts to thermal throttle after a while, I'm sure a 4080 would throttle even worse.

@s.flaizlett

10 ай бұрын

I’m having long game sessions on Legion Pro 7 with 4080 and there’s no problems with the throttling. All works fine and gameplay is really smooth.

Came for the laptop info, stayed for the dope Insomnium shirt. Great album too!

Jarrod, I appreciate your in-depth testing of these laptops, but I'm shocked to see you cover such high-power parts and never address the noise levels. I used to have a gaming laptop that used less power than this, and that thing as already so loud that it annoyed my roommate. Could you please address this in future videos?

This generation the best options are a 4060 or 4080. 4050 has only 6 gb vram and is pretty dismal. 4060 is a good balance between affordable and vram. 4070 is only 10% more performance than 4060 and way far off from the 4080 in terms of performance. 4090 is for people who aren't worried about budget and usually go for the best of the best anyway. The biggest decisions are between a 4060 and 3070Ti. While the 3070Ti is definitely better without considering FG, the newer gen laptops offer better CPU solutions for people who want to use their laptop as an actual laptop and not a desktop replacement.

@siyzerix

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, but 4060 laptops also cost more than 3070ti laptops, and generally the 3070ti laptops pack a similar tier of CPU to the 4060 ones (remember the 13th gen H series is just 12th gen rebranded). And if the 4060 is barely 12% faster than the 3060 at 1440p, well the 3070ti will be a very solid 15-20% faster than the 4060 at 1440p. Best bet is to just grab a 3070ti laptop which already gives you performance very close to a 3080ti mobile and just wait it out till rtx 5000 for what is hopefully an actual upgrade. And don't put your hopes on AMD. They're going to disappoint once again. Their rx7600S already costs more than 3060 laptops yet performs the same.

@RyomaE28

10 ай бұрын

@@siyzerix I'm moreso comparing a 7840 hs + 4060 combo to a 6800H + 3070Ti combo. I want battery life and portability as well. If it was pure compute power then there's no comparison that the 3070Ti is faster. But unfortunately there's no 7840HS + 3070Ti combo and the HX series from AMD or any Intel processor are battery hogs. For the HS processors I've seen 4060 laptops around 1100$ whereas most 3070Ti laptops are above that in the 1300$ range. The Acer Nitro 5 is cheap for 1000$ but it's also a lower tier laptop than say the Helios 300 3070Ti I'm not keeping any hope from amd gpus unfortunately, but their phoenix range CPUs are really good

@siyzerix

10 ай бұрын

@@RyomaE28 Yeah, but the nitro 5's not that much worse than most options either. For starters it packs the full power 3070ti 150w. And for the lack in battery life you do get a 2.5' bay. Its also a fair bit cheaper than most other full power 3070ti laptops and even 4060 and 4050 laptops. Obviously if your top priority is battery life, then go for a 4060 laptop. But the 6800h nitro 5 should get half decent battery life at around 5 to 6 hr if tuned. Cause my intel version gets like 4hr. Most of the full power 4060 laptops aren't that much more portable than the nitro 5 and the more portable options are a fair bit expensive.

@RyomaE28

10 ай бұрын

@@siyzerix Yep it's pretty good value for money in the current market. Looking at the Lenovo Legion Slim 5 and if and when the Slim 7 AMD arrives I guess I'll pay a bit more for the portability

@siyzerix

10 ай бұрын

@@RyomaE28 How much more portable is it though? 2.2kg vs 2 to 2.4kg for most other laptops? Maybe its a bit smaller in other dimensions but man, that soldered ram really is a slap in the face. If you're going portable why not get a g14? Has the same soldered ram too.

Would you test the new HP Victus 15.6 with the AMD Ryzen 5 7535HS?

I have a 4070 Alienware with the 14th gen i9 24 core and for what I got, I’m not nit picking over fps. I’m more worried about keeping it somewhat cool. It’s like having a space heater on your desk.