yes warm air can cool your parts if the parts are hotter than the warm air... thermals!

@TussalDragon344

3 жыл бұрын

It may not make sense when you read it, but it does make sense in reality

@joshconfer209

3 жыл бұрын

Don't bring actual science and conscious thought into this. Its an internet discussion. Sci-fi rules and arguments only.

@venomcuregaming6734

3 жыл бұрын

I don't fully understand this, so forgive me if I am wrong, but doesn't cool air well cool the CPU faster.

@Farengast

3 жыл бұрын

@@venomcuregaming6734 The answer is yes. The issue is how much cooler the air would have been otherwise and how much of a difference that would make given the temperature differential that will already be needed for heat to leave the CPU and move down the heat pipes. Traditional graphics cards already dump most of their heat into the case. The claim was that the configuration of this GPU fan would somehow direct hotter more concentrated air directly to your CPU cooler intake. This always seemed silly and far fetched to me, and testing confirms. GPUs put heat into your case. Warm case air still cools your CPU. If you really want to optimize this beyond what is practical you need more case fans and not a different GPU fan.

@KyleReynaert

3 жыл бұрын

WITCHCRAFT

Its almost like NVIDIA knew what they were doing when they designed the cooler...

@CreativityNull

3 жыл бұрын

Historically they haven't though

@Real28

3 жыл бұрын

@@CreativityNull they could. I think it was more of play of maximizing profits. They are worth hundreds of billions. They could easily R&D this to death but haven't...until now.

@nordvestgaming1238

3 жыл бұрын

@@CreativityNull Yea fair enough

@Thiterest1

3 жыл бұрын

@@Real28 They probably don't bother because FE cards make up a small amount of overall sold cards.

@element_hahaha1574

3 жыл бұрын

I think they focus more on there cooling design than the performance.

For the first time I actually want a Founder's Edition card over third party.

@Neonmirrorblack

3 жыл бұрын

Two degree difference where all fans are locked. Meanwhile, the EVGA card would have likely been able to ramp up its fans to a higher RPM and remained quieter while also bringing the temps down to a similar level, on top of the EVGA customer service and warranty which is far better than what you get from Nvidia directly. This video doesn't prove that the FE has a better cooler, it just proves that it's not causing the CPU to heat up like most expected. It's dumb to do a "controlled" test where two distinctly different coolers are forced to run under the same situation and claim one is superior. The test needs to actually be done where the fans are allowed to run where they need to for cooling, or simply make custom curves.

@TheCgOrion

3 жыл бұрын

@@Neonmirrorblack I agree it would be good to let them run as they are meant to in a separate test. I agree that we aren't seeing their potential here, even though I understand why it was done this way. Even doing the 40db regulated testing doesn't show the apparent noise to our ears. 40db of one frequency can be much more tolerable to our ears than another frequency. All of these tests are helpful to create a picture, and provide comparison points, but a lot of it is still up to personal preference.

@FendersRule

3 жыл бұрын

nothing wrong with 1xxx or 2xxx series FE cards.

@sainttrill1165

3 жыл бұрын

Neonmirrorblack it was a 15 degree difference on the GPU. And a 3 degree difference on the cpu. The FE was significantly more efficient at cooling. Idc what handicaps there were, a 15 degree difference with higher clocks on the FE shows it is clearly superior. Actually watch the video before blatantly lying in the comment section

@Neonmirrorblack

3 жыл бұрын

@@sainttrill1165 You are missing the point. This test was for the CPU, where the difference was a few degrees and both GPUs were forced to run with the same fan limitations. The EVGA card is a triple fan card that would have been able to equal the cooling of the FE had it been allowed to ramp up its fans, which would *have also* run quieter due to the simple nature of there being three fans. The EVGA card is hotter because it's being bottlenecked. It's fine that "you don't care" what the handicaps were, which is great if you want a completely flawed comparison.

Jay: 5 degrees lower on GPU is big jump Me with my vertically mounted Vega 57: *removes side window* temps lower 25 degrees

@-taylor-9980

3 жыл бұрын

That dust build up though :/

@Purpill

3 жыл бұрын

I want vertical but the reviews I've seen for the gen 4 is mixed :(

@randomhobbies5796

3 жыл бұрын

My 2080super never goes over 60c vertically mounted glass off custom fan curve

@JimmyM.McGill

3 жыл бұрын

@@randomhobbies5796 You may aswell not even have a case if you're gonna leave the side panel off

@paulwood53

3 жыл бұрын

why would you mount it vertically, it looks like shit..

Turns out the company with engineers and researchers knows more than a bunch of random people on the internet.

@themeeka

3 жыл бұрын

The founder edition coolers are historically bad though, that's why this is actually newsworthy

@Headbangerr-en2cc

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, what a surprise.

@CheapBastard1988

3 жыл бұрын

@@themeeka That's true. Knowledge may be present in a company but it's up to management how to use it. With the old models Nvidia probably gave the assignment: It has to be "this" size, must work well in a factory prebuilt, must cost no more than "this" to produce and the assignment must be done in two days (or even worse: "repurpose this old server cooler"). With those restrictions (especially the time) the product will inevitably be "reasonable but not great". The difference is probably that engineers are now given the opportunity to work their magic and create something good.

@garethturner2711

3 жыл бұрын

shocking

@cleaved3453

3 жыл бұрын

@@themeeka Thats because the past years they made the minimum level cooler. This year they modified the minimum and made a custom one of their own.

“I mainly use this system to play World of Warships while Phil is working.” It’s good to be the king!

@awilliams1701

3 жыл бұрын

I LIKE BOATS!! lmao that always cracks me up.

@spacecy

3 жыл бұрын

Poor Phil

@dakotah9266

3 жыл бұрын

I LIKE BOATS! followed by the ifixit ad and explosions

@awilliams1701

3 жыл бұрын

@@dakotah9266 fix your friend with ifixit!!!!!! Hahahaha

@Sailordude9980

3 жыл бұрын

Hey....I like ships too lol (See screen name) lol

JAY: "It's 71 degrees fahrenheit here, and whatever that is in Celsius... pffhg and away." *continuous to do all the temp testing in Celsius..

@ADCFproductions

3 жыл бұрын

Celsius is the way to go.

@croness91

3 жыл бұрын

its always sensible to use Celsius anyway because red zone for pc parts is around 90 to 100 C. make a lot of sense.

@tonnentonie2767

3 жыл бұрын

@@croness91 that's just coincidence actually

@Shipprofile08

3 жыл бұрын

I'm the same way as Jay is when it comes to temps! If I'm checking my room temp or the temp outside, I use Fahrenheit! If I'm checking the status of my GPU or CPU while gaming, testing something, or just curious of what it is atm, I use Celsius. Don't ask me why though, its just the way my brain works lol!

@osmano2175

3 жыл бұрын

Metric System Masterrace!

"Heat is going to generate heat" - JayzTwoCents

@ArcaneSurreal

3 жыл бұрын

He ain't wrong though. :)

@pihermoso11

3 жыл бұрын

that's the plan....

@CrashFM911

3 жыл бұрын

"People die if they are killed" - Emiya Shirou

@dy7296

3 жыл бұрын

You don't say...

@Nocthmyst

3 жыл бұрын

The floor is made out of floor

Hey man. I started trade school in August for IT. One of the first assignments was to watch a video on someone taking apart a PC, and your “UNbuilding” a PC video was the one I watched. I’ve never watched stuff about computers or even had the interest in the schooling, I’m just doing it for the guaranteed work. But after watching that video I spent the remaining of the 5 hours in class watching your videos. I’ve become so interested in this world of PC development and I wanted to thank you for helping me develop this interest! Keep doing what you’re doing my friend

@chefsadventures7849

3 жыл бұрын

thats all you have to do for IT?

@bohboli

3 жыл бұрын

Idiot Chef he said he recently started.

@Ross-ow1ld

3 жыл бұрын

bohboli i thought you were insulting him at first with a rare insult

@Kipx99

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ross-ow1ld The word Idiot Chef is a common insult, duh.

@serenity5892

3 жыл бұрын

@@Kipx99 Depends where you live

People literally thought that the card was venting heat like a volcano? LMAO

@winha1435

3 жыл бұрын

Theres plenty of forums whit users that think the exhaust air temperature is the same as gpu thermal reading on the screen.

@ver93

3 жыл бұрын

it looks real on the thumbnail of my notifications

@jdwmyt

3 жыл бұрын

Q: What gets wetter the more it dries? A: A towel.

@1MuchButteR1

3 жыл бұрын

because there are a lot of idiots now due to PC gaming becoming mainstream

@jackiea4621

3 жыл бұрын

@@jdwmyt wow, thats a really sad attempt at spamming "jokes" all over the comment section...

It turned out exactly how I thought it would. I'm happy someone finally tested that.

@HappyBeezerStudios

3 жыл бұрын

I actually did a vertical CPU cooler orientation with my old card for the exactly same reason. The card ran hot and that way I could make use of the top fans and CPU cooler to move the hot air away from the GPU.

I've never been more interested in an FE card then any other. Higher GPU Boost, lower temp, lower price. Great job nvidia.

@abhidahiya4007

3 жыл бұрын

@Warm Soft Kitty did you even see the video or what?

@Motishay

3 жыл бұрын

@Warm Soft Kitty Please watch the video before needlessly spreading misinformation

@Zman1719

3 жыл бұрын

@@Motishay You should practice what you preach. This video is not testing the GPU cooling performance, it's testing the effect the cooling solutions have on the CPU temp. Jay is controlling the fan speed here by locking them at 65%. You can't say the FE is a cooler card with this video. All this video shows in that regard is that, locked at 65%, the FE card is better. Who's to say, based on this video since you say you watched it apparently, at 85% or 100% or whatever that the FE is still cooler. It could very well be that the EVGA card is cooler

@Setmose

3 жыл бұрын

And apparently no CTD issues like competitor cards (cheap capacitors).

@Dave5gun

3 жыл бұрын

the EVGA cooler is shit, the Asus TUF becomes 63° at the same volume while the Founders becomes 79°. (according to hardwareunboxed)

*Look, a working exposed cooler My brain: Put your finger in it Me: why? My brain: you gotta!

@haydenwiseman3056

3 жыл бұрын

and you always get scared then your finger hits the fan lol.

@kramnull8962

3 жыл бұрын

@@haydenwiseman3056 Only when I see the severed tip...

@TheNiteNinja19

3 жыл бұрын

"Is this fan spinning" **insert finger in fan noise** "Yep..." It's just like how you test a 9v battery...

@whyers4782

3 жыл бұрын

@@haydenwiseman3056 yeah... my brain tells me to touch my 1050ti's heat sink while games are running at the backround. And whenever i hit the fan i jump like a cat

It's obvious that nvidia's technicians are more educated than the guys who are spreading these rumors. Therefore, if they come up with any sort of unnatural designs, it must be for good reasons....

@gunnar6674

3 жыл бұрын

Manufacturers have made many silly mistakes before, so I can understand not taking their word on everything, but this was pretty easy to understand: A card which exhausts more air will likely make the case cooler than one which dumps most of the heat inside the case.

@V_2077

3 жыл бұрын

You would think that but im sure there has been countless examples where video card technicians messed up. For example remember when EVGAs cards (I think 900 series or 1000) basically "blew up" cos their cooling was trash. And now we have this potential Caps problem though It's not 100% yet (EVGA seemed to confirm it but yeah I dont think it is solely the caps) So whilst what you say makes complete sense in reality mistakes happen and companies can't be trusted, which is why we should wait to see it in action.

@skachor

3 жыл бұрын

You're talking about the people rumoured to have greenlit a design for partners that have rumoured extensive crashing issue.

@rightwingsafetysquad9872

3 жыл бұрын

@@gunnar6674 Silly mistakes are usually because the manufacturer was trying to do something quick and cheap, not because they didn't know what they were doing.

@TheBanjoShowOfficial

3 жыл бұрын

This can be taken sarcastically

Jay "it's open there no filter I can stick my finger in here (gets hurt)" Phil "I could have moved around and showed them"

"I could stick my finger in the fan if I wanted to." - a man who always wants to stick his finger in the fans.

3000 series is the most successful, unsuccessful tech release of recent years!

@Falzar2142

3 жыл бұрын

The FE version from nvidia is great. The other versions from the AIB partners not so much :/

@jaybosher6144

3 жыл бұрын

Falzar2142 certain partners. Some card were build above nvidias own over spec cards. But for the money the FE cards are no contest. Can’t wait to beat down people in the streets at the 3070 launch

@GrimYak

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaybosher6144 yup, i can finally afford the 1070

@jul1anuhd

3 жыл бұрын

@@Falzar2142 Some are worse, some are better. As an example the strix or TUF is better than the Founders Edition. But there are some other Cusom designs like the Zotac Trinity who are worse.

@marcguerao2

3 жыл бұрын

Why unsuccesful

“Tested” two hours straight... read gamed for two hours and realized later it would be a good video.

@DawidDoesTechStuff

3 жыл бұрын

This is pretty much how all my videos happen. 😂

@bradyharr3483

3 жыл бұрын

Dawid Does Tech Stuff Dawid I keep seeing you in the comment section of other videos. It’s awesome to see the community love!

amazing, FE 3080 15 degrees cooler than a custom triple fan, and also the cpu cooler, and only 67 degrees with a 65% fan speed, that is amazing, excellent temps, and the FE also helps to exhaust warm air out of the case. 3080 FE the best disipation so far

Would like to know what the RAM temps were in both scenarios also.

"This is my Threadripper system that I mainly use to play World of Warships" what a sentence

@tylerdurden3722

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe it's an older one. A friend of mine bought a Threadripper PC (with a ton of RAM and 4x 2TB samsung SSDs) from his work for $1200 I helped him out....just so I could get the SSDs😅 I myself recently got a X299 itx for relatively cheap.

@TheFrisken95

3 жыл бұрын

@@tylerdurden3722 Its a 3960x xD So yea, not that old, a couple of months or so xD

@Thefuror38500

3 жыл бұрын

@@tylerdurden3722 current gen threadripper, he say it is 3960x

@tylerdurden3722

3 жыл бұрын

@@Thefuror38500 😗

@kaidentjosaas7731

3 жыл бұрын

That’s stupid overkill for world of warships since they cap your FPS at 75

Gamers: Ehhhh Blower cards are horrible don’t ever make those Jay: Blower cards are good shut up. Nvidia: why hello

@michelvanbriemen3459

3 жыл бұрын

Technically this one sucks and blows.

@PainX187

3 жыл бұрын

@@michelvanbriemen3459 push pull like rads really far better then a blower also has a chance of not sounding like a jet engine blowers work fine but at high temps they are seriously loud

@Mart-E12

3 жыл бұрын

Nvidia makes both types at once

@ThatBritishGuy

3 жыл бұрын

@@PainX187 not loud if you setup a fan curve, most of the time they don't need to be at 100% since they can withstand high temps without serious issues, alot of peoples complain because the auto fans max out at lower temps for higher protection xD lil bit of brain cells and it would be an ez fix plus undervolting has been a thing for YEARS which could also help with jet engine coolers since most cards use more volts than they actually require, less volts = less heat = lower fan speeds + the fan curve setup = optimal experience, see ez pz.

@bepbep7418

3 жыл бұрын

@@michelvanbriemen3459 "Technically correct is the best kind of correct" - Prof. Farnsworth. 😁

I dont know why im watching all this 3080 videos WHEN IM NEVER GOING TO GET CHANCE TO BUY IT

@MrXepi

3 жыл бұрын

I feel your pain also waiting and I got a 8 year old pc lol i7 4770 and nvidia 778 gtx

I currently have a 1070 FE and now im so excited to get the 3080 FE. Those temps are crazy good.

Thank you for using Celsius.

@tillbot1651

3 жыл бұрын

It’s a brave new world lol

@MOOSHROOMKILLER3

3 жыл бұрын

Everyone uses celsius when talking about computers

@SkyzzV_

3 жыл бұрын

Amooshroom so what do we learn? Fahrenheit is useless... or imperial overall is useless

@MCOGroupNews

3 жыл бұрын

@@SkyzzV_ We all know imperial is garbage, but as far as everything else goes making the transition over to the metric system is just too complicated and costly right now and potentially dangerous (Engineering/architecture) etc.

@pradeepraghuraman4430

3 жыл бұрын

@@MCOGroupNews That's an excuse that could go on forever. Once lazy, always lazy. The cost of switching from Imperial system to Metric system is only going to keep increasing every year. The US should have done it decades ago.

Jay: I can stick my finger in the fan if I wanted to. *zzzztttt!* Ah! Like that. Oh, Jay. Never change.

@Mr72usty

3 жыл бұрын

He plays a clown in front of the camera. Just be sure to take his opinions with a chunk of salt as he's more of a "tech influencer" than reviewer at this point with all the fanboying he does.

@fshn4x4

3 жыл бұрын

@@Mr72usty Mmmmm, salty

@stellatecar7634

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@user-tv9co6fh8o

3 жыл бұрын

@@fshn4x4 Mmmmm, counter salty

@adeadlyfart13

3 жыл бұрын

@@Mr72usty How is this relevant to what was said by the OP? And how is Jay any less of a reviewer compared to anyone else? And what product does he put on the highest pedestal as a fanboy? Just curious as one is to throw out such wild ass claims.

7:10 super interesting info for setting up fan curves thanks ! It's tempting to have the fan off until the card is 80C and then just ramp the fan to what it would normally be at 80C but from your explanation I can see why that is not so easy.

Jay's borderline ranting tone keeps me interested and energized, I like it

Blower coolers have always kept the case temps lower. and now we have an actually good blower cooler. so now you can keep you GPU cool, and your case cool

@maggi98mw

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, i wouldn't really call this a blower cooler. It's a hybrid

@TheNiteNinja19

3 жыл бұрын

I remember the old days they made fans that used 2 PCI slots, that had a channel that went halfway into your case, and pulled the hot air out and exhausted it out the back. That was single handedly the easiest way to cool down an old computer at the time without taking a hole saw to the roof of the case to install a roof exhaust.

@thegoaty6194

3 жыл бұрын

I had totally forgot about those. Had one in my old gateway pc.

I love how you and GN recommend each other and have a great professional relationship. Two of the best YT channels imo.

@Kira-qc4qi

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. We can all hate Linus together (jokes)

@froZn991

3 жыл бұрын

yeah except for that weird hypocrit video after the 3080 launch

@JB-xl2jc

3 жыл бұрын

@@Kira-qc4qi Jokes aside I go to Linus for entertainment, I go to GN for technical details, and I go to Jay for wisdom and tips.

@haku4841

3 жыл бұрын

Jeff B facts

@Anon.G

3 жыл бұрын

@@Kira-qc4qi Ltt does way more weird electronics projects, it's not really a comparable channel.

"that fan is going to make my CPU run hot!" me: looks at my side mounted intake radiator, "ha!"

@Chuckiele

3 жыл бұрын

yeah and your ram and other components will be thankful for the extra airflow from the GPU :)

Hey Jay, I've seen a few places online about people mounting a 80-92mm fan under the GPU pushing the hot air out of the rear of the case on a traditional style blower gpu. This apparently had very good results as it pulled the hot air directly out of the case and helps draw some of the cold air from the front of the case towards the gpu, Any chance you would be willing to run some tests with this? Also would be interesting to see the thermal results of a RTX3080 with the 3090 massive cooler on it, Thanks.

"Although... people don't sit there in their game a stare at the corner" Yeah tell that to half the campers in Warzone sitting in buildings fixated at the door.

@coolperson4582

3 жыл бұрын

Or if ur playing a hide and seek game

@gunnar6674

3 жыл бұрын

I’m OK with campers. They play a rather realistic way.

@aesirofgames

3 жыл бұрын

Gunnar René Øie I just hate people that exploit spawn locations, those are horrible to deal with, I’m fine with campers though because at least there is 99% of the time an easy way to get rid of them.

@gamingmadesimple5510

3 жыл бұрын

Me and my brother ise to play all the battlefields and call of duty campaigns as a 1 life only. If you died you had to start back at first mission. Just cuz it was challenging and realistic.

4:15 Clearly Jay you don't play squad based games online.

@PFSnypr

3 жыл бұрын

Yea its just holding corners 90% of the time

@GummyBearRacing

3 жыл бұрын

R6 has entered the chat.

@raizerga5590

3 жыл бұрын

@@GummyBearRacing i love r6 so much but my gosh the amount of times I hold an angle for a minute and look away and die pisses me off so much

@airstrikegamer1561

3 жыл бұрын

Valorant has entered the chat

Glad I found this channel! Your videos are so good!

So actually as expected, but the missing part now: noise comparism!

@ronakparikh

3 жыл бұрын

I think what is missing is a comparison against a blower style card (since there is no 3080 blower you have to under volt a 3080 to get the same tdp as an older blower style card for a fair comparison). The people who were complaining that the top fan was going to make thermals worse were comparing it to a blower style not an axial style, since blower style is more optimal for multi gpu or itx.

Sooooo the founder edition card continues to be better in all aspects.

@anonyshinki

3 жыл бұрын

Except for availability, because you can only get one if you're a well-known tech blogger.

@jahnnyVLOGS

3 жыл бұрын

@@anonyshinki what's the point tho if the people don't get it . They better work on better way of bringing it back so alot people get the chance to buy it

@habib6863

3 жыл бұрын

@@anonyshinki lol you can't get any of them right now so that's irrelevant

@arasheel7734

3 жыл бұрын

tuf is the best

@PabzRoz

3 жыл бұрын

makes me happy i ended up selling my tuf gaming 3080 for 2 grand lol

It's actually the first time that I'm more interested in a FE card than in any other. First it was because I find it way way sexier than any other cards we've seen so far. But now you're telling me that in runs cooler? I'm sold! Once there's stock... I'll be sold next year!

@hcAsicted

3 жыл бұрын

Noise normalized it runs hotter than 3rd party. He just did fan % normalized which isn’t correct IMO.

@shevek5934

3 жыл бұрын

@@hcAsicted Was the noise normalized test in a bench, high airflow case, or a more constricted case? That seems like the key point here. If you have a ton of overall case airflow, the AIBs seem probably better, but which is optimal if you have a more constricted case?

@hcAsicted

3 жыл бұрын

Shevek fair point, I think it was on an open bench. Gamers nexus probably has some comparisons.

@RomainDelmaire

3 жыл бұрын

@@hcAsicted ...does that mean that the FE would run louder at that temperature than a 3rd party? I mean, if that's the case, I always use my computer with my headphones on, so noise is really the last of my concern ^^

@pihermoso11

3 жыл бұрын

@@RomainDelmaire in Jayz's test, the FE run cooler than the 3rd party with the gpu fans capped at 65%, check the numbers at 14:35 ,but i don't know what happens if the fans were made to perform 100%.. maybe the EVGA would run cooler BUT with probably a higher noise level (as it has 3 fans vs the FE which has 2 fans).. but still with 65% fan speed, the FE is doing better than a 3rd party

Very informative video Jay, love your work !

Thank you for this Jay, I learned a lot.

Moral of the story, buy a case with good airflow, good fans, positioning of fans and good cpu cooler.

@cristainnn9298

3 жыл бұрын

That is my gripe with NZXT, looks great but the airflow is just garbage

@TechandTools1

3 жыл бұрын

@@cristainnn9298 I have an nzxt s340 elite, it has ok air flow not the greatest. I switched it out to an Asus gt501 and my gpu temp dropped a few degrees Celsius. Plus the fan and radiator support in the 501 are really good. I don't think I would buy a newer nzxt, what do they have now the 500, 700 and the little 200?

@GPG851

3 жыл бұрын

My case would be perfect for a 3080. I got 3 intakes bottom, 3 side, and 3 exhaust up top

@zsoltszegedi8995

3 жыл бұрын

I'm so happy with my Phanteks P400a. Cheap, good airflow, not the best quality but not the worst either, it's just really good overall.

@TechandTools1

3 жыл бұрын

@@GPG851 dynamic?

I wouldn't mind seeing alot more 3rd party blower coolers being made.

@Autunite

3 жыл бұрын

I like the blower style, except for the sound, but that's okay. They're a lot more efficient at moving air outside the case as stated in the video, and they look neat.

@TheKazragore

3 жыл бұрын

ASUS has a bunch of Turbo 20-series cards (they're all blowers) and Gigabyte has a blower-style 3090 already out.

@TheKillerZmile

3 жыл бұрын

i want aio gpu cooler

@kerbsmage

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheKillerZmile My 3080 arrives soon its a triple fan cooler, going to be a bit sad when i put my new build together as my current card is MSI Seahawk 1080ti, It has always ran cool and quiet for me. I do love the fact it came as a 140mm AIO and wasn't super expensive considering.

@TheKazragore

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheKillerZmile EVGA have an upcoming Hybrid cooled 3080 and 3090, so you're in luck!

Would be interesting to see how a top-mounted AIO effects the heat exhaustion out of the case and at what point with that set up does internal temps rise and juncture points due to that result? Would they go up do you think? I run my system with a top mounted AIO exhausting heat out. Also STILL waiting to see Phil vs Jay world of warships.... #TeamPhil.

I appreciate these videos, I always watch in my downtime which is often lol interesting

Now if we could just get these cards..

@briantheoret6837

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly! I love my 1080ti FE but I think it's time for an upgrade. Unfortunately, who knows when we'll be able to get one...

@kaylum4055

3 жыл бұрын

@@briantheoret6837 ordered mine and actually happy that it got delayed due to these power issues.

@briantheoret6837

3 жыл бұрын

@@kaylum4055 yes but aren't they happening to the AIB cards? I want the founder's edition.

@kaylum4055

3 жыл бұрын

@@briantheoret6837 you're correct i want the fe too but the chance of getting one is so slim

@briantheoret6837

3 жыл бұрын

@@kaylum4055 I know... I guess all we can do is wait.

Conclusion: Skip good looking pc cases like the nzxt H510i and go for a mesh front panel case.

@saurabhrunijha77

3 жыл бұрын

True nzxt case sucks in air flow

@deso4262

3 жыл бұрын

P400a is good

@maggi98mw

3 жыл бұрын

@@deso4262 lian li lancool 215 is also very nice

@afroafroguy

3 жыл бұрын

011D xl. Looks and big airflow, i have one and regret nothing

@FedericoTrentonGame

3 жыл бұрын

I got the Meshify C, the shorter travel from front to back dropped my temps unexpectedly! Really love it

Great review Jay, simple but powerful. One thing though, could we get a data sheet for the findings grouped together in the video to get explicit comparisons? Would be very helpful!

@JayzTwoCents I was watching older videos and i cant seem to find Senpai Studios for custom cables. Did they rename or are they still around?

Everyone before this video: CARD WILL BURN ALL ARGH!!!!!! Everyone now: Pfft, I knew it would run cooler.

@IchiganCS

3 жыл бұрын

I really knew that before, let me explain. In my case I have only 1 chassis fan at the bottom front of the chassis. It is the only intake. My power supply is at the top back. It is the only exhaust fan. So my airflow has to go from the bottom front to the back top anyway, so with the 3080 the fan will do huge work to increase air velocity through the case, resulting in lower temperatures. I don't know why I commented that though.

@barbrose4987

3 жыл бұрын

Spoiler, i expected it anyway

@StandardAI

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like "Everyone" is a politician... lol

@PashaGamingYT

3 жыл бұрын

I actually did know before because I know basic thermodynamics.

@zaku2939

3 жыл бұрын

Hindsight Harold effect

'Which is funny because that is the only air cooled CPU that I have." -Ooh SorRy

@atespeach5672

3 жыл бұрын

hes rubbing it in :(

Haha, timing of videos, nah good on you for the disclaimer, it's also good multiple places test in multiple ways, so good stuff Jay!

Thanks for the video, helps me with getting a 3080 fe for my ghost s1. Keep up the good work! Good luck on your leaderboard attempts.

Holy shit - the subtitles brought back a memory I forgot I had and reminded me of Don Vito in Viva La Bam 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@jaemelo2693

3 жыл бұрын

LOL nowayyy;, bruh that was my show...

6:05 min Jay's finger takes one for the team 👍. Thats the kind of commitment I like to see xD.

Can you do a test on the FE cards vertically mounted? I'm curious how well or bad they perform especially being jammed near a glass panel.

Hey Jay, can you do a test with a vertical GPU mount? I'm guessing it will be okay, just wondering with the air blowing back on the MB what it will look like.

Wake me up When RTX 3080 will get his restock

@andrewt.5567

3 жыл бұрын

They will sell at about as fast as I can smack my snooze button in the morning.

@pcbingemaster

3 жыл бұрын

I think this scarcity will benefit Big Navi 2 release

@healyhurst8159

3 жыл бұрын

"Wake me up, when 3080 gets restocked" *sad acoustic guitar plays*

@jamesmccann5644

3 жыл бұрын

If you dont go FE you can still find some in stock. (uk)

@Depressedandautisticmillenial

3 жыл бұрын

Can't wake up?

"Phil touch this." No way man.

Do you recommend the 3080 for itx, I know you said a blower style is good, but could it help cool other components?

should there be more difference when you have custom watercooling/watercooling with a closed loop?

jayztwocents: the heat is gonna create . . . heat me: surprised pickachu face

@delfan95

3 жыл бұрын

That one drew a legit laugh out of me! XD

I would love to see this same test done with the 3090 fe just for comparison.

@TheFrisken95

3 жыл бұрын

it runs cooler

@iaial0

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think they'll make AIB 3090s

@TheFrisken95

3 жыл бұрын

BackInBlack_4896 there are already aftermarket 3090s tho, MSI has the one with the stringest cooling of the 3rd party cards

@davidc1961utube

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheFrisken95 stringest?

@xzreai1802

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidc1961utube i think he meant strongest* lol

Hey Jay, How are temps if you vertically mount the FE card? Also can you vertically mount the FE card?

Great test Jay,... I wanted to do something similar but could not get hold of the cards out in Singapore.

I work in a refinery and we literally use steam to cool hot spots on parts of piping lmao. If something is less hot than what it's cooling it will cool boys!

@jeffcrawford2195

3 жыл бұрын

I was hoping to heat my water cooler to steam and cause a boil over. Would've been spectacular to watch.

@stixoimatizontas

3 жыл бұрын

Heat transfers from hot to cold, junior high school knowledge.

@rotor13

3 жыл бұрын

@@jeffcrawford2195 I've seen videos of water heaters exploding through the roof of a house. You don't want those problems man.

@jeffcrawford2195

3 жыл бұрын

@@rotor13 oh I know! 1600 times the energy all of a sudden and it's gonna be a bad day in bedrock

@Setmose

3 жыл бұрын

Be careful, that's what killed the USS Thresher.

i will keep saying this: your channel together with HC from Canada, has the best camera shooting Technics when it comes to record footage from a pc monitor!.THANK YOU!. very readable...sharp, great light, no reflection just perfect!!! not like other (big channels) that spend thousands on cameras, studio and employees and still they suck in those kind of videos. you rock. THANK YOU! 😎💪♥️

Can you tell me what Windows power plan you were using during this video shoot like Balanced, power saver or performance? My Ryzen 5950X temps seems to spike and idle at high temps(57c) but when switched to power saver mode it idles at low temps relatively i. E. 47c. I am using Corsair H100i SE platinum CPU cooler.

@JayzTwoCents sorry to bother but could you tell me what benchmark you use in this video? Would like to test my own system with a giga 3080 g oc.

So we finally have a blower style cooler that doesn’t sound like a rocket

@laszlo9420

3 жыл бұрын

It's not about Blower or not. It's about axial and radial Fans. Building a Blowerstyle with a axial Fan was a smart move from Nvidia.

@laszlo9420

3 жыл бұрын

@@iStrong113 You are probably deaf.

@beny6920

3 жыл бұрын

noctua nhd15

@sanjeev9581

3 жыл бұрын

@@iStrong113 my rx570 blower isn’t loud with headphones on

@jc.1191

3 жыл бұрын

@@iStrong113 sounds a bit hot. Maybe increase that fan speed. I'm not annoyed by stock cooling either

But Jay the friction of the air particles moving past the RAM will cause it to heat up! /s

@PizzaPowerXYZ

3 жыл бұрын

Silly jay

@GuyFromJupiter

3 жыл бұрын

I almost commented that this is possible, but then I decided I would rather not deal with the smooth brains that thought I was saying it was a real issue to worry about.

@PizzaPowerXYZ

3 жыл бұрын

@@GuyFromJupiter I mean it DOES heat it up but its so little that it isn't a problem

@goranandersson3544

3 жыл бұрын

Don't worry. The time dialation that occurs because the air is moving means that time moves slower for the air. It's won't have as much time to heat up the RAM.

@ShadowViewsOnly

3 жыл бұрын

Yes but time elapses faster for the warmer air particles, therefore they are warmer for less time.

How about 2 or 3 GPUs with and without distance? How do they impact each other?

How much louder is the FE? I've been running EVGA Hybrids or an AIO + bracket because I like the PC silent. Nice trim tool pointer btw, I think I have that still (car and PC guy checking in)

I never questioned the new cooler style. Just looking at it you can tell it is better then 3rd party coolers that blow air all through the case.

Thank you. Finally someone who has the resources to test the theory I had and was trying to explain. You showed it out right and proved the theory. Great video. Keep up the great work.

@ShadowViewsOnly

3 жыл бұрын

No, he disproved it. :D

@Mustanggt505

3 жыл бұрын

i was thinking it would probably help

@xenobubba9224

3 жыл бұрын

@@ShadowViewsOnly True lol

When you're running at the lower temp, you'll see less of a drop when you take the front off because you have less excess temp to exhaust.

would it be worth putting a case fan below the gpu in the empty spots? (idk the correct term, where the back plate brackets are that you would mount your gpu to)

7:55 “Phil, Phil this”

Jay: "The heat is going to generate heat" (2:56) Me whos heat generates a $500 electric bill: ?????????

@issa64

3 жыл бұрын

Wow bro my heat is less than 100

@periodictable118

3 жыл бұрын

Conservation of energy state that to generate any form of energy (ie heat), another form of energy (ie electricity) must be used to generate that heat. So it seems that your house's central heating relies on resistive heating, where electricity is turned into heat, thus causing your $500 electrical bill. Ultimately, all of the energy we use from electricity gets turned into heat, whether sooner or later.

@danderosa

3 жыл бұрын

@Joshua Steele F in the chat for you mate

@dixiegoodboy2051

3 жыл бұрын

Damn thats hot. My heat generates $80-$90 max.

Jay, between the two cards, which would you chose..? I can only fit up to 295mm long in my case, and that means either FE or EVGA XC3.

Does the Fin orientation on the card make a difference? If the cooling fins are lengthwise like on the FE card, it would seem that the air flow would be more likely to exit the case than if the fins were orientated widthwise like on the EVGA card.

I'm assuming there shouldnt be any effect with an IAO radiator?

@anhiirr

3 жыл бұрын

well since its exhausting(FE) a top mount AIO would see a benefit of a FE vs a non FE.........bc of all that radiating heat to the radiator/fans. Specifically in regards to the thinner aio/rad. But as well same sentiment to OC potential...plus with all that space you can mount 80mm fans regardless above pci slots if you really needed some extra exhaust for the vrm section pre 120mm rear exhaust. If you didnt run an FE. Get a 3-1 splitter, and mount them in that meshed section if the chassis is large, beyond the pci slots/screws. or above the pci slot/mesh rear i/o area. 3x 80mm fans or etc. IF these GPU+.....zen3+4000+MHZ ram become a problem.....for proper cooling. And ideal zen3 OC

Now I want TwoMad to be building a PC with Jayz

What about aio cooling? With the radiator mounted on top as an exhaust, is the 3080 cooler a problem or does it still make no difference?

It was the same story back in the days with the turbine cooler design. While it was louder it was keeping the inside of the case cooler.

When you were removing the first card, I felt that pain lmfao

As far as I know, the only closed front panel case with great thermal performance is the O11 dynamic. I'm thankful for the GN influence on the market, as traditional closed front panel cases sacrifice way too much performance for looks. It's amazing how much your CPU temp dropped after removing the front panel. #meshmasterrace

Thanks for the testing - but do standard fans perform better than peripheral fans aka water cooled systems?

Hey Jay, can we get some case compatibility with the 3080 plugged in. These numbers i see for height feel like mid towers might not be enough.

I own this card finally and for one week it's been the best purchase I've made in 8 years.

@excaliburmorgan5501

3 жыл бұрын

@Devil's Advocate ???

@tylerdurden3722

3 жыл бұрын

@@excaliburmorgan5501 it's called PC Envy😅 Nvidia (Envidia) is Latin for the word Envy. The fact that the logo is green is also not coincidence.

It's almost like the laws of thermodynamics are real... Who would have thought!

@campkira

3 жыл бұрын

thing that effect.. A/C, how well is the system get rip of heat... an the damn case... all i see is that thing run fine without dust build up... all that thing had issue more whenit got older...

@whiskeymike7364

3 жыл бұрын

The "Laws" of thermodynamics are guidelines (say it like a Pirate). Almost everything we label as "Laws" are guidelines that let us get through the hard parts.

@thealien_ali3382

3 жыл бұрын

U like willies

@herpderpherpd

3 жыл бұрын

You mean like the laws of thermodynamics he incorrectly described? Air that is hotter than something is not going to cool it down. That's not how anything works. If my ram runs at 45c, and this is spewing out 65c air, it is not going to cool the ram. That's just fucking ridiculous.

@Ugnutz

3 жыл бұрын

@@herpderpherpd that isnot what he said though he said that air at a certain temp blowing over the components are not going to heat up said component above the temp of said air.

Would that front fan cool RAM that is put above it? Say in a water cooled system?

What thermal pads do you recommend for this swap?

Every vid I watch about the 3080 reminds me I don't have one yet... (Still love the vids Jay!)

@ca9inec0mic58

3 жыл бұрын

I can't afford one...lol

@dickburt69

3 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't worry about it too much. We're all going to have a much better selection in a few months and the bugs will have been worked out.

@stagdragon3978

3 жыл бұрын

It's ok we make enough money once all this hype dies down and the scalpers loose money from buying too many we can get into it at a more comfy time

@Dgeigerd

3 жыл бұрын

yeah same, ordered 50 mins after launch, still waiting to get it shipped to me

This is begging for a smoke test to see the airflow!

@eaglepep1

3 жыл бұрын

See Jay's buddy Steve's report at kzread.info/dash/bejne/iIqVqbStiJuWl6w.html

can the card run 3 different monitors all running on different refresh rates and still run games and decode videos or does it freeze and stutter? because i get some strange frametimings when i run a 240hz and 60hz sidemonitor at once

i got a weird question, can you swap a videocard without any issues? or do you have to re-install windows everytime...

Lets be clear... it's the youtubers that put the idea out that the FE cooler might make the CPU and RAM hotter during their unboxing videos.

@Buildonsound

3 жыл бұрын

larock0wns proof it boy

@larock0wns

3 жыл бұрын

@@Buildonsound go watch the unboxing videos... There's your proof. Stop being lazy

@harjaapbhandal3509

3 жыл бұрын

Build On Sound gamers nexus was one of the first people to say that when the design was leaked

I felt attacked when he flicked my precious °C

@franciscosolano6677

3 жыл бұрын

bruh same

@Texas240

3 жыл бұрын

Keep your funny measurement numbers to yourselves!

@theneosuperzero

3 жыл бұрын

@@Texas240 metrics system is silly? Are you high?

@advait35

3 жыл бұрын

Stupid imperial system

@Texas240

3 жыл бұрын

@@theneosuperzero - do we need to come force feed you some Freedom?!?

I don't have a 30-series card so I don't know what the fan controls look like, but if it's possible to control that pass-thru fan apart from the blower fan then I'd assume it can benefit total case airflow to run that fan even when the GPU isn't under load, right?

Thank you so much for this video Jay.