You have created an incredible amount of accurate detail and animation. Beautiful. Very well done and many thanks. At some stage in the future it would be interesting to see the mechanism operating with the gun slightly elevated (just to show that it can be done). And I love the steam from the De Bange obdurator face.

@rnbreech4194

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks - much appreciated. I left the gun at 5 degrees as this was easier to render/animate (5 degrees also being the usual elevation used for loading by the crews). Steam took an age to render!

My father was on the HMS Roberts during WW2, his post was inside the 15 inch turret, his job was aligning the turret compass with the ships compass. I found this very interesting, Obviously he survived , as I'm here. But I do know they were batterned down in action. Respect .

@Dave-hu5hr

2 жыл бұрын

'the' Her Majesty's Ship?

@ScienceChap

4 ай бұрын

His. HMS Roberts was in service during the reign of George VI.

Well here we all are some 75 years after the end of ww2,and the enthusiasm and interest in these awesome battleships still carries on great videos thank you very much

@rnbreech4194

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot - much appreciated!

@spikespa5208

2 жыл бұрын

@@rnbreech4194After showing the personnel and their duties, kinda wish you had started in the shellroom and magazine and followed the bags and shells as they travelled to the chamber and gunhouse and then into the gun in sequence, from shell order to firing. And a bit slower. Fantastic animation, easy to see and follow. Great vid!

This is surely a masterpiece of 3D CAD. 63 men, wow! I had thought maybe twelve. I think this gives a bit of an insight into the incredible amount of planning and engineering that went into the making of such guns, all designed with just paper, pencil and slide rule, now perhaps about ninety years ago.

@rnbreech4194

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot - much appreciated! Much of the 15 inch gun turret technology was derived from the preceding 13.5 and 12 inch gun turrets so the design is over 110 years old

@bonza167

2 жыл бұрын

the super dreadnoughts like HMS Warspite that fought in the 1916 WW1 battle of Jutland were these 15" guns, now well over 100 years ago

@ScienceChap

2 жыл бұрын

And hugely modified over 40-odd years. For example Vanguard's turret had the Magazines and Shellrooms swapped over. The turrets for Vanguard, Renown, Warspite, Valiant and Queen Elizabeth were modified for 30° elevation and the guns proofed for super-charges. Great video. Well done.

@SnipersLaww

2 жыл бұрын

US battleships tended to have up to 80+ crew for their main turrets.... the RN design seems to have a slightly more automation hence less crew required than a US battleship

@Digmen1

2 жыл бұрын

Yes no CAD or CNC!

Absolutely blown away by the engineering and the sheer intricacy of the process: drawn and designed by pencil, paper and slide-rule. Many times machined using steam powered tools. Amazing!

I am bereft of words; the attention to detail, the precision... superb. Those 9 minutes went by in an instant.

@rnbreech4194

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching - much appreciated!

Somebody should warn these fellows that they are firing with the tompions still in the muzzles.

@jace8785

5 ай бұрын

Its not like thats gonna do anything, arent tompions designed to be shot through?

@Tsarbloonba

5 ай бұрын

@@jace8785well it its HE shells it might explode…

@ScienceChap

4 ай бұрын

And the gunhouse roof missing. And a gun breech sectioned so they can see the chain rammer...

@ZaHandle

4 ай бұрын

@@TsarbloonbaThe fuze isn’t sensitive enough for that

You think you understand how "primitive" gun turrets work, and then you see this and realize you really had no idea how complex and ingenious it all really was. Thank you for sharing your research with us.

I can't even begin to imagine how many hours of CAD modeling are in that assembly. Absolutely beautiful work!!

@rnbreech4194

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks - the rendering took a while too!

My father is a WW2 Army Air Force veteran. He's still with us, and still articulate and healthy. I'm continually impressed that people are very interested in his service. He gets asked a lot of questions, especially by young people.

@TaiChiGhost

2 жыл бұрын

My dad was a Navy vet, that was a tough job. Please relay my thanks to your dad for WINNING!

@H0kram

2 жыл бұрын

My regards to your father. I'd have a ton of questions to ask him too, it's a blessing that young people get to learn from him. Our elders are incredibly precious in that regard, it changes one's life to be in touch with that wisdom. It is even more precious now, as we are overall so disconnected from our elders.

@TH-sn7mw

2 жыл бұрын

God Bless your Dad,my Dad was a USAAF vet.Wish I would have asked him more about his service.

@imadrifter

2 жыл бұрын

Wasn't it Army Air Corps back then?

Thank you for all your hard work and superb artistry. My father was in the RN from 1929 till 1948 ending up as a CPO Gunnery . He served on the 15 inch guns on Repulse, Renown and narrowly escaped the sinking of the Barham, but talked very little of his time. This gives me a really valuable and emotional insight into his working life at sea. I ended up in The MN as engineering officer and so the engineering aspects of your work are also wonderful to see. A Heartfelt thank you once again.

@rnbreech4194

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot - much appreciated

My sincerest appreciation for the work and time that must be involved producing this detailed animation. Congratulations. Especially interesting (and poignant) for me as my father was Royal Navy throughout WWII, serving and surviving some of the most dreadful theatres of naval warfare. Thank you and best wishes.

@rnbreech4194

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting - much appreciated!

Outstanding, I was a Gunners Mate 2 in the US Navy and a mount capt, on a 5" 54 Mk 42. I found this amung the best I have seen on a large caliber naval gun operation Thank you.

@rnbreech4194

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot - much appreciated!

Much respect, an incredible amount of time and talent has been put into this video… it should be recommended for an award

Incredable. Thank you for doing this!

What can I say, but wow! Absolutely beautiful animation as always, thank you so much!

@rnbreech4194

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot. Much appreciated.

Amazing animation. I knew the workings of the MK 1 gun and turret well from books. But those were afterall words. Needed to picture them in my mind. This clip gives me visual representation. No words beat that. The CG quality excellent!

This is so great to visualize the engineering master piece of the guns. The interceptor switch and related action is so elegant and simple. -- I also like how the sailors are dressed as imperial guards!

Absolutely amazing animation. Great job.

WOW! I have been waiting for this all my life!

Wow! This is the best video I have ever seen, explaining the workings of a RN 15” turret. Now I know what’s going on in the loading sequence shown on “Sink the Bismarck”, which shows one of HMS Vanguard’s turrets representing HMS Hood. Liked and subscribed!

@peterdavy6110

2 жыл бұрын

I though exactly the same. I've always wondered what the loader was calling out when the guns were being loaded in that movie.

@soldat2501

2 жыл бұрын

I googled, "loading sequence, Sink the Bismark" and was NOT disappointed. These two videos together made my morning coffee! Thanks!

@BadgerGB

2 жыл бұрын

When i saw the loading procedure, i thought, you saw that somewhere... And then, boom, "Sink the Bismarck" :) Great animation

excellent , well detailed video. I have always wanted to know how these guns worked and this was a great demonstration.

One of the most complex engineering setups of the time! Truly amazing how they got this all to work correctly!

This is absolutely mental. Well done!

That was amazing! I finally think I understand the entire process. Excellent work!

@rnbreech4194

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot - much appreciated!

Outstanding! Thank you very much for this incredible animation.

@rnbreech4194

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot - much appreciated!

You made a perfect explination. Thank you for uploading.

Brilliant video. Well done and thanks for this upload

A superb animation. Incredibly detailed.

This was very interesting! Well done!

Amazing piece of engineering. Thank you for this animation!

@rnbreech4194

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks - much appreciated!

Thank you, I now have a much better understanding of my fathers experience as gun crew 4 in Warspite's X turret in WW2 👍 I have watched it 10 times already😊

@rnbreech4194

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. No.4 had all the "interesting" jobs - especially in the event of a misfire. He would have to stand behind the gun to replace the vent tube and hope that the gun wouldn't suddenly fire, An officer would assist with a stick (from a safer distance of course)

@briyeo

2 жыл бұрын

@@rnbreech4194 He was a coal miner working on the coal face before and after his service. He was a Ripper and that entailed using explosives to bring the rock down from above the coal seem. So his life was full of explosions.

Lovely job. Fascinating and strangely relaxing.

Stunning piece of graphics work

absolutely incredible work

That was superb.

This was amazing! Well done.

@rnbreech4194

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot. Much appreciated!

Excellent work

Awesome. Nice to at last actually understand how this worked. Thanks for sharing

Fascinating - what beautiful work. Thank you.

@rnbreech4194

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks - much appreciated!

Wonderful video, congratulations!

I want to make some comments after looking animation again. I am curious about the date of this design. Assuming that some version of it was used on HMS Elizabeth, the animation works well when comparing the very different approaches to turrets and handling systems between early British and U.S. turrets. The U.S. Mk1 14" turret, as used on Battleship Texas, was a contemporary of Elizabeth and was extremely primitive compared to the British design. That can be seen in a recent video shot in Texas' turret system. What is even worse in Texas was that until the addition of power hoists around 1919-20, powder was lifted by hand up a series of platforms manned by passers from the lower handling room to the powder flat located immediately below the turret gun pit. While U.S. shell and powder handling systems improved until the Washington treaty was enacted, it wasn't until the later U.S. 16" treaty and fast battleship designs that systems began to approach the sophistication found here. There is a well written report and critique submitted on 27 June 1917 by RN Commander Richard T. Down to his superiors, that was the result of his detailed inspection of some U.S. battleships and their turret systems. He was rightfully critical of the primitive nature of the U.S. designs, but he also said that their inferiority was largely offset by the high level of training of their gun crews. The only statement that I disagree with is a very small point. Commander Down stated that threads on U.S. breech plugs could be damaged if not carefully aligned before closing. I have directly operated one of the manual, horizontally hinged plugs on Texas and found that to not be correct. I first swung the plug very slowly to see what touched first before I put any force on it. Once satisfied that nothing would be damaged, I pulled the plug back to its fully open position, then swung it closed with considerable force. I could see and hear a cam mounted on the plug strike a channel on the screw box that serves as a guide. I could also feel the operating handle pivot up slightly as the cam struck the channel and rotate the plug to its proper position before the two sets of threads made contact with one another. Having said that, gun drills of the period required that the plug man inspect threads for burrs between shots, so there may have been some concern with this by the U.S. Navy.

@rachelcarre9468

2 жыл бұрын

I believe that it shows the quality of this video when a gentleman of Tom’s deep technical knowledge comments on it AND adds additional insight!

@garydickson8883

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I just read Commander Down's report - very interesting.

@johnolive3425

Жыл бұрын

American's have been "extremely primitive" to the British since we became an independent country, so whatever helps you sleep at night.

@tomscotttheolderone364

Жыл бұрын

@@johnolive3425 My comments were limited to comparisons of two very different breech and loading systems for two guns having almost equal size and power. Even the most casual comparison of both designs should make it obvious to anyone that the U.S. Mk. 1 design required much more physical effort to load and operate, was easier to make mistakes with and was slower in overall operation. That being said, it had advantages over the British design. It was far simpler to fabricate and maintain. There were vastly fewer parts to wear and break. It was almost intuitive and easy to teach operation, maintenance and repair to practically anyone. As a whole, U.S. designers were very smart engineers and were certainly aware of powered designs. They were undoubtedly competent enough to create them, but decision makers, including Navy ordnance experts, apparently decided that simpler was better. So, yes, the U.S. design was more primitive, but it is easy to see that the decision to use it was likely based upon solid logic. It is also reasonable to say that British decisions followed equally strong logic, so the two very different approaches were almost certainly due to different values and design goals. That is not an insult to Yankee ingenuity. Lastly, my opinion is formed by close reading of early U.S. Navy ordnance manual descriptions of the Mk.1 turret and literally hundreds of hours climbing through and studying the turrets on Battleship Texas. If you've made it this far in my reply, you can go to my video and see the difference between the system in this video and one on Texas. By the way, I relish its simplicity and practicality. kzread.info/dash/bejne/fqOgzLGzepmugag.html

@johnolive3425

Жыл бұрын

@@tomscotttheolderone364 my sincere apologies. I misunderstood your comments as a harsh critique of our designs! And yes, the ammo handling procedures on the USS Texas were a ball-buster.

Brilliant. Thanks so much.

What a terrific video. Would love to see this done with other navies gun systems. Well done and thanks for the insight and detail!!!

@anzaca1

Жыл бұрын

As far as I know, there's not a huge difference. These big naval guns all operate in much the same way.

This animation was brilliant and explained a lot about the workings of these big guns. I always knew that it took a lot of crew to man these brutes, but I was never sure about the process involved. Your animation shows just how intricate and complicated the process of firing these guns is, even though the a lot of the work is done by hydraulics. The crew would need to be well trained and alert during the process, to ensure safe operation. A stressful job I think. Thanks for all your hard work in putting this together and uploading!

@rnbreech4194

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks - much appreciated!

Fantastic work, thanks!

Wow incredible! Thank you for your video.

Funny I just saw a movie clip a couple of weeks ago inside the turret. was thinking that they were being repetitive on their commands, but after watching this I can understand what was going on and why. I never thought there was that many crewmen, but I can understand why there were large crews on Ships now. Many thanks for all your hard work.

Superb detailed animation

Wonderful work and presentation, glad to admire such a masterpiece!👍👍

@rnbreech4194

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting!

Incredible work putting this together. I had no idea how this process it worked, or how much coordination was involved.

Fantastic lesson from this movie. Thanks! Bismarck fire was every 20 seconds.

A truly spectacular rendering of a spectacular handling system!

@rnbreech4194

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Much appreciated.

Great piece of work! My late father actually did this kind of thing for real! Somewhere, I think I still have his notes for how it all fitted together....

Wow great Video!Always wondered what it all looked like at one time.

That was very impressive! Thank you.

@rnbreech4194

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

I had the same turret/naval rifles on my 20" bicycle when I was a young buck. Got them for Christmas. Alittle unwieldy when biking through the woods but you learn to lean into the corners. I guess it's just a benefit of growing up in 'Merica

Technically this is very good and very great 3D animation. Impressioning !! Thanks for all that and Happy New Year 2022 !!!

Very impressive work, well done.

Very cool video !

Strangely... Fascinating. Incredible detail. While watching I thought how clever such design is, but also tainted with a sadness about the end game of such human design efforts.

WOOOOWWWW!!! That is an absolutely incredible animation 😳😳😳😳👍😁

Very well done. 👏

Great animation, lots of work !!! It would be lovely to see a final run of the full cycle repeating 2 or 3 times especially in real time so one can get an idea of that

@rnbreech4194

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks - much appreciated!

Outstanding job

You won`t find a better example of Teamwork than what it took to operate one of those Guns and it would have been done in a matter of seconds too, amazing.

This is excellent stuff

Amazing details!

Totally cool detail

That is a fantastic presentation

Very well done!

Good one RNbreech. I'm still amazed at this kind of animation. I don't have the first clue how it's done.

This is really SOMETHING! Great stuff for a technical history guy like me. Would be really cool to see an 8-barreled 2pdr mount in action--if possible in this format, that is.....

@rnbreech4194

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot!

Stunning animation

@rnbreech4194

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks - much appreciated!

Yo thats some smooth work mate

Great video!

@rnbreech4194

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Amazing.

Outstanding job, thanks for the history lesson.

@rnbreech4194

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome - Thanks for watching!

And with guns like that and men to operate them the Royal Navy very frequently won battles at sea. Amazing.

Astounding.

Amazing animation of even more amazing machinery.

@rnbreech4194

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks - much appreciated!

simply put, perfect!

My father watched one of these turrets in action, taking pics, with his stood down AA gun crew off Utah beach on D-Day aboard the monitor HMS Erebus. Still got the photos.

@andrewlong5444

2 жыл бұрын

At 16.40 a shell exploded while exiting the left barrel. Turret doors flew open and the marines in flash gear piled out along with a lot of smoke. At maximum run in it burst the jacket fortunately the breach held no one killed. Distorted the cradle and trunnion supports. After 2 days at anchor back to Devonport for temporary repairs. Inquiry traced it to faulty shell fuse. Returned to service 22 June with one barrel, not the only ship on D-Day to have this happen to.

Very intresting and informative! Thanks for sharing, appreciate it a lot. Greets from the Netherlands 🌷, T.

Beautiful animation.

@rnbreech4194

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks - much appreciated!

Excellent!

Well done

Fantastic insight to the men needed to operate one of these guns. Is it just me I could listen to this music all day long very hypnotic 😀👍

Really interesting and illuminating

Great explanation..graphics..thanks.

very informative - thank you )

Amazing!

An elegant weapon for a more mechanical time. Now the missile knows where it is at all times.

Amazing, i always wondered how navy guns worked in detail

@rnbreech4194

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks - much appreciated!

You did good video there mate couldn't off did it any better well done explained it perfectly 👍

@rnbreech4194

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks - much appreciated!

Brilliant

Thank You

@rnbreech4194

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

Not a navy guy at all but i watched the entire video! thumbs up to the great work put into making this!

And now all you have to do is push a button and the computer does all that for you. What took 63 men in WWII now takes a single computer and a single sailor pushing a button.

Beautiful model