Row over Hindutva historian

Is the BJP government trying to saffronise education and India's history? That's the debate on Left, Right And Centre as prominent historians like Romilla Thapar, strongly criticise the government's move to appoint an RSS leaning historian as head of the Indian Council of Historical Research. Are the fears legitimate or are Left leaning historians being hypocritical? Joining us, Ram Guha, Irfan Habib, Yogendra Yadav and others.
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  • @samreads
    @samreads6 жыл бұрын

    6:40 if history cannot be objective and will always include the bias of the historian, it is then very important for right wing historians to be appointed to balance out the left+congress bias of the past 70 years

  • @trigcat3107

    @trigcat3107

    4 жыл бұрын

    Well, now that we've social media, right wingers are digging deep into grey areas. Congress fed communist historian which worked for Political correctness and not on the ground of objectivity and truth.

  • @viharamonastry
    @viharamonastry9 жыл бұрын

    Romila Thappar's integrity? A woman who refused to accept Somnath Temple was destroyed by Mohammed Gizni, in-spite of Al-Baruni's details, her integrity can only be compared to that of Goebbels who felt that Russian actions in East Prussia was barbarism, but totally ignored mass murders committed by Germans in Russia.

  • @srinjayadasa3862

    @srinjayadasa3862

    8 жыл бұрын

    +viharamonastry She is a Marxist stooge. Smooth talking but a useful idiot none the less.

  • @DipakBose-bq1vv

    @DipakBose-bq1vv

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thaper etc from JNU are not Marxists but followers of the British-Pakistani historians. Ram Guha does not know the history of india as written by Karl Marx or the Soviet historians.

  • @Babayaga57898

    @Babayaga57898

    4 жыл бұрын

    Reference?

  • @trigcat3107

    @trigcat3107

    4 жыл бұрын

    @PakMan Go watch her video where she's whining about that persian script which clearly screams about how Muslims vandalized Temple but she was crying for small little differences LOL. When the sense was very much clear that islamist in that age had fun looting India, dismantling idols, why tf thapar has to lie about this by whining about how one idol is hanging or where idol was pierced.. Height of hypocrisy

  • @brajm
    @brajm7 жыл бұрын

    Hahaha , He called himself Best Historian, height of narcissism

  • @roguegenesis7020

    @roguegenesis7020

    3 жыл бұрын

    Where

  • @harisharma3661
    @harisharma36615 жыл бұрын

    Dhyan se dekho pro. Sinha ko RSS ideology ka tag diya hai aur Irfan habib jo ki markswadi hai ko ek historian likha hai... Wah ndtv tu great hai.....

  • @itachisensei3306

    @itachisensei3306

    5 жыл бұрын

    Irfan Habib 2 Hain ek medieval history ke and aur ek moderate history ke. Yahan pe Jo Hain he is a centrist. And medieval history wale Jo Hain wo Marxist Hain. Don't be confused.

  • @somnathacharjee7071

    @somnathacharjee7071

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@itachisensei3306 irfan habib 2 nahi hai ek irfan habib aur dusra S irfan habib hai aur sirf irfan habib marxist hai aur S irfan habib koi moderate historian nahi valki modern historian jo ki communist se bahut hadh tak juda huwa hai aur un ki toh ek kitab bhi hai:Ideology and Programme of Bhagat Singh and His Comrades jaha pe wo comrades ko praise karta hai aur bhagat singh ko ek comrade aur communist bata dete hai jab ki bhagat singh ne officialy wo kabhi nahi kaha tha aur ram chandra guha toh ek fake communist historian hai jo ki historian jabardasti ban gaya aur in ndtv walo na bana liya

  • @trigcat3107

    @trigcat3107

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@itachisensei3306 I'm yet not sure, any of these habibs are any different. Both have islamic communist leaning.

  • @PradeepmysurNagaraj
    @PradeepmysurNagaraj3 жыл бұрын

    What is Hindutva? India as a Nation was not born on August 15 1947, India is a continuing civilization with a Milleniea old Continuity more than a few thousand years lived civilizational experience. The primary philosophical thought of India was all inclusive, all accepting, it was never exclusivist and most importantly it never negated the existence of any other philosophical, Spiritual or Religious thought. However when the philosophies of this land came in contact with Semitic Religions, which inherently are exclusivist, Which inherently exclusivist are conflicting, predatory and proselytising there needed to be a response by a non exclusive, inclusive faith which can be called Common wealth of Hindu Spiritual traditions, to therefore respond to the agression, predation and proselytising attempts made by Abrahamic faiths which came to Indian soil, A response was made by Hindus at that time, and that in later context was called Hindutva. *If Hinduism is the potential inclusivity of the common wealth of indigenous thought, Then Hindutva can be a kinetic effect, which primarily is to defend the Hindu philosophy, culture against Abrahmic-Semitic faiths which is not primarily inclusive, predatory and proselytising* Hindutva by nature cannot be aggressive.Because the very response of Hindutva emanated to be defensive. Hindutva is a intellectual, political, socio response of the Hindus to prevent itself and themselves against aggression. Therefore Hindutva cannot be dominating, because Hinduism is a victim of Aggression. Hindutva by its very nature cannot be agressive, because the very response to Hindutva emanated to be defensive. Unless we examine and scrutinize the Abrahmic semitic faiths which by their very nature are proselytising & predatory & which by their very nature go the extent of negating other faiths as false faiths, then we must ask questions, should Hindus, should not come up with Intellectual, Political - Socio response to preserve and perpetuate the long lasting way of life. We can't accept the false equivalences drawn between two entities. 1. "La ilah illa Allah" "There is no God but Allah " 2. "Jai Shree Raam" "Victory to Raam" "La ilah illa Allah" is a negation of the existence of my God, However we won't negate other belief systems. Sir Sayyed Ahmed Khan in 1926, Hindus and Muslims are different Nations. "It is a Shame to both the Hindus & Muslamaans that the Hindus should have to run away from their homes as they have done, it is the shame for the Muslims because it is out of the fear of the Muslims that the Hindus have to run away from their homes, why Should a Human being inspire fear on other Human, My own experience but confirms the opinion that the Musalmaan as a rule is a bully and the Hindu as a rule is a coward" Mahatma Gandhi after Noakhali Massacre. Writing Thoughts on Pakistan - Dr. B.R.Ambedkar. The Hindus and the Hindutva leaders whose primary ideology is defensive reaction towards aggression have been put in witness box as perpetrators of aggression. That has to change for always and for good times to come, we must be asking questions to those followers and leaders of Abrahamic faiths and we must put them to the same kind of scrutiny as put to the Hindu leaders. Does not your Religion at the very fundamental belief believe in dividing the World between believers and non believers? Is that not exclusivist? Unless we have intellectual strength to ask these fundamental questions we will be continuing to draw false equivalences and we will be treating the symptoms and not the disease itself. PS : As long as proselytising Religions continue their existence as as Proselytising Religions Hindutva should be there to protect itself and not just protect itself but also protect the values that the Hindu society has perpetually held as sacred & sacrosanct & those values are in consonance to the modern secular values that Indian constitution so dearly upholds.....

  • @kumarakantirava429

    @kumarakantirava429

    Жыл бұрын

    thanks for writing this.

  • @TheKaushal28
    @TheKaushal285 жыл бұрын

    I think the panel should be balanced. Since you have a historian from one side, you should have invited a historian/ or any history researcher who has contrary views. Politicians will not be able to counter academic historians in all aspects. It should first be discussed what is correct historically and accurate, rather than engaging in trivial debate of Hindutva vs Secularism, safronization etc. For this we need historians from all viewpoints sitting and debating with a neutral moderator.

  • @mohnish7451
    @mohnish74518 жыл бұрын

    @Sabrina Shahab Well Ram and Krishna never existed but Prophet who spilt the moon in half and who rode on a winged horse existed!!!

  • @soheil527

    @soheil527

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Mohnish Desai yes he he did exist there is proof, but indra who flew on 12000 wing garuda never existed

  • @mohnish7451

    @mohnish7451

    8 жыл бұрын

    Suhel Mullick Same logic back to you, nothing more to say, everyone's belief to himself! enjoy

  • @soheil527

    @soheil527

    8 жыл бұрын

    Mohnish Desai muhammad was a historical personality from 571 AD well attested not some imaginative hindu deity. dont you understand facts over emotions

  • @mohnish7451

    @mohnish7451

    8 жыл бұрын

    Suhel Mullick Even Ram was a well attested figure in Indian History and the dates are recorded in the celestial calendar. You may say what you want that doesnt make it true....If Ram was a fictional figure we would have celebrated Diwali (Rams win over evil) at any day , but Diwali does not come everyday my friend , it has a date !!

  • @milindu8919

    @milindu8919

    7 жыл бұрын

    Suhel Mullick But mohammad is a pedophile as well....that is also recorded.

  • @drno7592
    @drno75924 жыл бұрын

    How come this guha is a historian, what is his specialisation 🤔

  • @tagorewithlyric4394

    @tagorewithlyric4394

    3 жыл бұрын

    His PhD was on the Chipko movement... But he has also worked on Sports History, Elvin Varrier, and Gandhi

  • @GeeksMonk
    @GeeksMonk6 жыл бұрын

    You guys wrote history with colonial mindset and according to their evidence now your life work are at stake so you guys are crying

  • @MegaSmokez1

    @MegaSmokez1

    4 жыл бұрын

    As opposed to writing history based on gut feeling, myths and fable? Ill stick to actual professors thanks

  • @historyfromarchivestolimel8662

    @historyfromarchivestolimel8662

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MegaSmokez1 Marxist historians and hindutva historians are wastes

  • @curiousmind2726
    @curiousmind27265 жыл бұрын

    We need our story, not his story. History can't be left, right or secular. Accurate chronicle of events and social circumstances should be written. Irfan Habib always bends history to suit his left ideologies.

  • @k-atrending940
    @k-atrending9406 жыл бұрын

    Historian more like Distorian

  • @ravindraharsoor3460
    @ravindraharsoor34606 жыл бұрын

    Yogendra Yadav says, "BJP does not find people with good credentials" These people said same things about Modi. Only Indian leader who can stand shoulder to shoulder and sit as equal and work to resolve the Doklam and other issues. Meanwhile, wow Sabin Patra and Mr Rakesh are amazing. But, problem is their accent is not Lutyen therefore they are discounted

  • @Himanshu.Harleyx440
    @Himanshu.Harleyx4406 жыл бұрын

    Ram guha says Marxist were not governed by ideal but have intellectual enquiry which is very funny.....ans a simple thing why they are called Marxist ?

  • @a.s.m.islamulhoquelaskar
    @a.s.m.islamulhoquelaskar5 жыл бұрын

    though out the whole debate, I was amazed by the decent talk from RSS and BJP . atleast NDTVs debate program still has journalistic credentials left compared to others and others should take lessons from these.

  • @viswaghosh1
    @viswaghosh18 жыл бұрын

    Agreed that the history of science and technology taught is entirely Eurocentric. India's mathematicians, scientists and astronomers need to be brought out of the historical closet. However, it must also be mentioned as part of India's history that our mathematicians, scientists and astronomers were condemned by Hindu Religion. Even while they explained Solar and Lunar eclipses scientifically, Brahmagupta and Varahamihira were forced to accept "Rahu-Ketu" nonsense. This was similar to the way the Church condemned Galileo, Copernicus and Giordano Bruno.

  • @debjyotimandal4927

    @debjyotimandal4927

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Anubhav Kesarwani who is barking here?

  • @TheKaushal28

    @TheKaushal28

    5 жыл бұрын

    Viswa Ghosh Can you please cite the source of your information?

  • @debjyotimandal4927

    @debjyotimandal4927

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@TheKaushal28 "Science and Society in Ancient India"-Debiprasad Chatterjee

  • @user-rg7jt4xp9y

    @user-rg7jt4xp9y

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@debjyotimandal4927Debiprasad Chattopadhyaya was an Indian Marxist philosopher. He made contributions to the exploration of the materialist current in ancient Indian philosophy. One of his Notable ideas is Irreligiosity of Early Vedism He is known for Lokayata: A Study in Ancient Indian Materialism, which is his exposition of the philosophy of Lokayata. He is also known for work on history of science and scientific method in ancient India, especially his 1977 book Science and Society in Ancient India on the ancient physicians Charaka and Sushruta. He was awarded the Padma Bhushan, in 1998. U. R. Ananthamurthy was awarded as Padma Vibhushan the same year, so you know the kind of people who were awarded the Padmas that year. Mr. Mandal, this is unsubstantiated Marxist lies by Mr. Chattopadhyaya that you seem to be taking as the Gospel Truth.

  • @user-rg7jt4xp9y

    @user-rg7jt4xp9y

    5 ай бұрын

    @debjyotimandal4927 Debiprasad Chattopadhyaya was an Indian Marxist philosopher. He made contributions to the exploration of the materialist current in ancient Indian philosophy. One of his Notable ideas is Irreligiosity of Early Vedism He is known for Lokayata: A Study in Ancient Indian Materialism, which is his exposition of the philosophy of Lokayata. He is also known for work on history of science and scientific method in ancient India, especially his 1977 book Science and Society in Ancient India on the ancient physicians Charaka and Sushruta. He was awarded the Padma Bhushan, in 1998. U. R. Ananthamurthy was awarded as Padma Vibhushan the same year, so you know the kind of people who were awarded the Padmas that year. Mr. Mandal, this is unsubstantiated Marxist lies by Mr. Chattopadhyaya that you seem to be taking as the Gospel Truth.

  • @deepakj4358
    @deepakj43586 жыл бұрын

    How come ndtv come up with these important debates buring the rule of BJP. When congress & Marxist historians were in power NDTV was silent.

  • @zisankhan2821
    @zisankhan28212 жыл бұрын

    In the west crux of the history is society development, production and communal harmony but in India it's more politics and communalism.

  • @GK-ui8fv
    @GK-ui8fv10 жыл бұрын

    Perfect Mr Guha. Let the independence come in most of Indian Institutions be that ICHR ( Indian Council of Historical Research) or anything else like election commision, CAG, CBI etc. Let the tradition of independence become so strong, that the govt of the day may not demolish that independence. Why should one play politics with the brains of little children like they do in Pakistan. India should not become some kind of 'anti' ideology( like left or right like Hindutva) or some kind of 'anti' country( e.g. Pakistan). After all, we want to see flourishing of Independent mind and not a skewed narrow minded Indian in our next generation . Parties come & go but institution remain & they should not be changing with the change of party.

  • @samcha1650
    @samcha16506 жыл бұрын

    Mr. Trivedi's response around 22nd minute clearly expresses the agenda "rewriting of history to promote nationalism". After this any discussion is futile.I am a secular person. However, unfortunately secularism in India in 2018 is not an accepted form of governance. Some secular historians are in tough spot. Ideally they should be able to tell a muslim ruler was barbaric and we would still support "secular India" . But they fear is that allegiance to secularism is not guaranteed. So they are also guilty at times to overlook muslim atrocities for greater good sort of "end justifies the means" . Sad state of affairs.

  • @surajs5913

    @surajs5913

    2 жыл бұрын

    Secular history has been denial of archaeological evidence in favor of secular narratives. If thats the history you want, i suggest you petition changing the national motto from "satyameva jayate" to "secularism jayate" . Personally i have no intention of suggesting "hindutva jayate" as a national motto, and am quite comfortable and adamant that the current motto be applied in all aspects of social importance to the fullest.

  • @PungiBaba
    @PungiBaba10 жыл бұрын

    Ram Guha "Correct SECULAR scientific history" - how come history becomes secular ???

  • @allembrace
    @allembrace7 жыл бұрын

    RAMACHANDRA GUHA and IRFAN HABIB , Do they believe in ISLAM and Christianity ? Let us debate .

  • @ushasharma1430
    @ushasharma14308 жыл бұрын

    that's how people get appointment in big posts n mny n foreign recognition. nothing new.see how British anthropologist corrupted varna system to caste by relating it with race.

  • @RajAmzn
    @RajAmzn8 жыл бұрын

    This Guha could not make his statements without indicating his affiliation to any political party. He is clearly patronizing the party which is king of scams.

  • @nagababhushanatr2750

    @nagababhushanatr2750

    8 жыл бұрын

    +rajorshi sen he has criticised party indicated by you .he is an historian best now on present affairs.He analyses and opposes central govt action in appointment to ICHR. we should have independent person for the chair. the govt is trying saffronise these important institutions

  • @rjhaveri8bh
    @rjhaveri8bh5 жыл бұрын

    People have voted the BJP who is NDTV and congress and others to decide on education of the children. I have serious objection in Irfan Habib harming the history with lies as he has done in the past.

  • @bhishmainfinity9202
    @bhishmainfinity92024 жыл бұрын

    I don't know why do they bring BJP/Rss spokespersons in such intellectual and high quality debate. It's just a mockery of intelligence. To every question, they have just 1 answer, that is Nationalism (they're clearly not nationalist )

  • @aniliebe

    @aniliebe

    Жыл бұрын

    jaa na bengali bhen ke lode

  • @pitabasbhoi3191
    @pitabasbhoi31915 жыл бұрын

    Why this debate now,when history has been changed so many times.

  • @amitkrishnani3160
    @amitkrishnani31606 жыл бұрын

    Some brilliant myths taught by congress 1. Muslims ruled for 1000 years, while delhi sultanat and mughal empire, including their decline and ruke in a few states and last 150 years only in delhi under marathas equal to 630 years 2. We are taught about tipu chutiya, but not about marathas whi ruled from tamil nadu to kashmir, bengal to gujrat and to peshawar in North West 3. Nehru and gandhi got us independent, lol then why was it 2 years after getting bombed by Nazis, 4. Calling indira gandhi an iron lady who was the most currupt politician/dictator the world has ever seen 5. Erasing the genocide of hindus and humilliation of islamic army by Marathas rajput sikhs and jatts in revolts

  • @fayazsultan6745

    @fayazsultan6745

    5 жыл бұрын

    Bhai pehlay spelling to theekh likho phir RSS ka gyan bantana.

  • @senkuishigami5163

    @senkuishigami5163

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@fayazsultan6745 spelling chod..pehle uska points ko refute karna .. chutiya tipu

  • @trigcat3107

    @trigcat3107

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@fayazsultan6745 If you got hurt coz you "think" you're decendants of those foreign muslims, you, my friend are delusional. You're a convert most probably and you should be critical about the barbaric nature of islam back then.

  • @rash6821

    @rash6821

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lol we are taught about both Tipu sultan and Marathas . Well Tipu Sultan was an anti hindu ruler but also we are not taught how peshwas were casteist .

  • @TanmayaPati

    @TanmayaPati

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rash6821 exactly

  • 5 жыл бұрын

    GUHA DECLARES HIMSELF AS GREAT HISTORIAN. HAHAHA. WHAT A LOW LEVE PEOPLE ARE FAVORITES OF NDTV.

  • @sabalsneh9315

    @sabalsneh9315

    3 жыл бұрын

    🤣🤣🤣

  • @KalamKhan-cq3jq
    @KalamKhan-cq3jq6 жыл бұрын

    why prominent Irfan Habib Debate this type of Both Bihari.

  • @venusthegermanshepherdsmar912
    @venusthegermanshepherdsmar9125 жыл бұрын

    Feeling ashamed that we read the book written by these liers

  • @kishorkumar7221
    @kishorkumar72215 жыл бұрын

    Sambavami yuge yuge 🚩🚩🚩🔥

  • @iqbalahmad7206
    @iqbalahmad72066 жыл бұрын

    So not being either from the Marxist or Hindutva school means being objective or neutral historian!!! Bravo !! you should audit some historical method courses at JNU, no wonder many JNUwalas call you Chetan Bhagat of social science.

  • @poonamabbi7448
    @poonamabbi74487 жыл бұрын

    Why what the Hondus did in the past is not "history" but past & therefore irrelavant? Why must OUR HISTORY begin whenever who ever finds it to their advantage?

  • @---vv5oy
    @---vv5oy7 жыл бұрын

    why the hell would you cut the video halfway you sadists!

  • @jitendramisra722
    @jitendramisra7224 жыл бұрын

    Once upon a time, these bluddy historian are in the committee of Congress, now the time will change.

  • @harshithg5455
    @harshithg54557 жыл бұрын

    "prominent historians like Romilla Thapa" LOL

  • @marianormamendes3600
    @marianormamendes36004 жыл бұрын

    I like that the History of India should be written by Indians and not by some foreigners, or foreign thinking people in India. The idea of 'saffronization' of education in India is good! Why not?

  • @YogeshKrNegi
    @YogeshKrNegi5 жыл бұрын

    I never understood till today that why these lumpens like Sudhanshu and Rakesh sinha are invited in the panel if it is the debate on History? Are they historian? No never. So the panelists must be from the area of the study on which the discussion is targeted. Media Chanels must think on it. To agree or disagree with them is then next thing.

  • @jayadeepnayak3504
    @jayadeepnayak35042 жыл бұрын

    How many Irfan hahbibs ?

  • @salmankasgar6070
    @salmankasgar60705 жыл бұрын

    I am from Village nagla chand

  • @bachihard
    @bachihard9 жыл бұрын

    Dange was British agent. Hahaha. Next thing he'd probably say is Golwalkar got India its independence. These BJP/Sangh guys are funny going on scary. Given that they are running the government now. Guha makes so much sense.

  • 5 жыл бұрын

    NURUL HASSAN A BLATANT ISLAMIST HAS BEEN PLACED IN THERE TO COVER UP ISLAMIC BARBARISM AND THEIR LOOT, MURDER AND RAPE CARRIED OUT IN INDIA.

  • @DipakBose-bq1vv
    @DipakBose-bq1vv5 жыл бұрын

    Rositter in her Ph.D. thesis at the University of Texas proved that the historians of JNU, Aligarh, Delhi universities repeat Pakistani history books

  • @kumarakantirava429

    @kumarakantirava429

    Жыл бұрын

    Can you kindly give the full name of the scholar . I wish to look into it. I searched with this name "Rositter " but could not find.

  • @snr5950
    @snr59506 жыл бұрын

    Nidhi Razdan - Have you ever read Indian history during yr school or college days ?

  • @ravindraharsoor3460
    @ravindraharsoor34606 жыл бұрын

    I meant Ram Guha

  • @ravindraharsoor3460
    @ravindraharsoor34606 жыл бұрын

    More I see Ram Guyana, more I think he is reasonable

  • @vasudevsarvam6912

    @vasudevsarvam6912

    2 жыл бұрын

    Then you don't know what a real reasoning is and lack insight.

  • @harisharma3661
    @harisharma36615 жыл бұрын

    3:20 NDTV ka bouncer aur Guha ka sixer👍👍👍

  • @nalinidevries754
    @nalinidevries7546 ай бұрын

    Hé is even ziek like NDTv

  • @satishjain4930
    @satishjain49305 жыл бұрын

    'थोथा चना बाजे घना', 'empty vessels makes more noises' 💐🌈🙏

  • @snr5950
    @snr59506 жыл бұрын

    Why at all Rakesh Sinha n BJP keep attending such lousi panel discussions of NDTV when the anchor chooses to ignore them over other panelists......

  • @dux5680
    @dux56807 жыл бұрын

    Which neither Marxist nor Hindutva historians is he referringto?

  • @surajs5913

    @surajs5913

    2 жыл бұрын

    The islamist ones who people like zakir naik rely on

  • @KalamKhan-cq3jq
    @KalamKhan-cq3jq6 жыл бұрын

    Rakesh Bihari Should Leave the debate Only Weeping .

  • @AnantKumar-ji1re
    @AnantKumar-ji1re5 жыл бұрын

    Jana the Rangoon pahunch Gaye Chin samajh Gaye na. Baat ho rahi hai RSS me kitte padhe likhe hain BJP me kite sakhchhar hai beta rahe hain Bharat kit na gauravshali Desi the. Legge raho.

  • @ravindraharsoor3460
    @ravindraharsoor34606 жыл бұрын

    Singhvi does not know anything. Why he is here? Irfan Habib is left and u ask him about Left's follies?

  • @pushkalkumarsingh3823
    @pushkalkumarsingh3823 Жыл бұрын

    I am teaching at हार्वर्ड

  • @nalinidevries754
    @nalinidevries7546 ай бұрын

    i think is not oké 😅😅😅😅

  • @kdharmarajureddy4992
    @kdharmarajureddy49924 жыл бұрын

    N d t v radical islamic terrorrsit tv in baharat dangerous

  • @khurmiful
    @khurmiful5 жыл бұрын

    BJP’s problem is that they don’t have scholars amongst their ranks. Only Charlestons like that Subramanian chap or whatever his name is.

  • @sabrinashahab795
    @sabrinashahab7958 жыл бұрын

    BJP can have a say in history or science , then why should not creationist theory as opposed to Darwinism should not taught in the West , We don't know whether Ram , Krisna even existed . How could these be part of history

  • @sabrinashahab795

    @sabrinashahab795

    8 жыл бұрын

    Stop talking like the Nazis , There is no Mughal in India now . Also instead of breaking down the Babri Masjhid , break down the Taj Mahal .

  • @sabrinashahab795

    @sabrinashahab795

    8 жыл бұрын

    Muslims are not Mughals , they are Indians anyone can convert to Islam just like AR Rahaman -the music director did , I assume he is destroying Indian Culture . if you hate Muslims , stop marrying them when they are powerful , while murdering them when they are weak. Only bullies do that . How come Taj Mahal destroyed your culture. Also stop wearing Salwar Kamiz , I assume that also destroyed your culture

  • @sabrinashahab795

    @sabrinashahab795

    8 жыл бұрын

    why western cloths ??? Polygamy is practiced in your religion too . How many wives did Khrisna have apart from having affair with Radha ??? Animals are not innocent , they are part of the food chain . Why don't start a war with west after they also eat cows . You are attacking the muslims because you think they are weak . Hinduism actually had human sacrifice especially for Goddess Durga . Well Quaran gave women right to property , divorce etc when the in the West it was initiated in the end of the 19th century . Most muslims countries don't have triple talak not even Saudi Arabia . And men in Suadi Arabai cant marry women because they are so expensive -women put what they want in the contract - their walis /guardian ensure that they do .

  • @sabrinashahab795

    @sabrinashahab795

    8 жыл бұрын

    That is right , I am speaking like this . Polygamy was banned in India because of western influence . Most muslim countries don't fall under western influence that easily . But Muslim countries don't allow man to have more than one wife before asking the permission of the first wife. , Most muslim men don't have more than one wife because they cant afford it . . Women are not easily available in muslim countries . They were more un available in the past before the westernization Yes , I am a muslim woman . I am highly educated , I have a job also my have my own home . It is perfectly legal under the law

  • @sabrinashahab795

    @sabrinashahab795

    8 жыл бұрын

    What happens in India is your problem . Muslims seem to be poor in India too . Triple talak and Kulla are banned in all muslim countries including Saudi Arabia and Iran because it is not Quranic and was not practiced during Prophet Muhammad's time

  • @nalinidevries754
    @nalinidevries7546 ай бұрын

    Now is Modi forma second time

  • @sukhatirthadr8904
    @sukhatirthadr8904 Жыл бұрын

    Then who funds Prof Guha.on what basis is Hinduism is dogma or myth.. Romila , Habib are congenital liars

  • @Amanshukla-xg7pz
    @Amanshukla-xg7pz5 жыл бұрын

    Nidhi is fascinated with irfaan habeeb

  • @125bbna8
    @125bbna87 жыл бұрын

    hats off ram chandra guha

  • @biplabganguly6436
    @biplabganguly64367 жыл бұрын

    Nidhi Abdulla Shildan! Tujhe kitne bar kutti bolne se tun bandi bonegi?

  • @niceyesraj4125
    @niceyesraj41255 жыл бұрын

    What the.... F***. Hindutva is not merely a myht , that's much more than that

  • @ravindraharsoor3460
    @ravindraharsoor34606 жыл бұрын

    Irfan Habib is left/Marxist, couple of others are rightists. These are partisan people. You should bring honest non-partisan people like Guha, Sanjeev Sanyal, Mr Rajeev Malhotra and many more scholars

  • @calmdev1577
    @calmdev157710 жыл бұрын

    this guy is talking BS

  • @ravindraharsoor3460
    @ravindraharsoor34606 жыл бұрын

    Irfan Habibs is a bad news, bad historian and Sarah Jacobsare consigned to past. Time to move on. Young people are gradually discounted. When Sudhanshu gave solid evidence and arguments. Irfan/Sarah gloss over

  • @daliyaghosh6235
    @daliyaghosh62354 жыл бұрын

    Dr.Rakesh Sinha savage

  • @SuperRocky1223
    @SuperRocky12236 жыл бұрын

    An unworthy journalism !!!

  • @lucabrazi6801
    @lucabrazi68016 жыл бұрын

    the best historian in india is r.c. majumdar.

  • @historyfromarchivestolimel8662

    @historyfromarchivestolimel8662

    Жыл бұрын

    No doubt about it. He was dismissed from office by pm Jawaharlal Nehru for not following his line of history

  • @historyfromarchivestolimel8662

    @historyfromarchivestolimel8662

    Жыл бұрын

    Marxist, Secular and hindutva historians are a curse to our academic field

  • @mr.zackry6251
    @mr.zackry62516 жыл бұрын

    0:7 "it's rather interesting ". Isko to English bhi nahi aati.

  • @Badrn100
    @Badrn1005 жыл бұрын

    Ramachandra Guha is not an historian by any standard and certainly not competent person to speak about Hindu History. He is at best a lazy cricket writer. Don't waste time taking his interview.

  • @amanshukla75227
    @amanshukla752275 жыл бұрын

    Leftisto ke likhe hui history book jala de jaye, real history true history likhe jaye

  • @harisharma3661
    @harisharma36615 жыл бұрын

    Wah starting me hi leftist ki leli sir Apne......

  • @ravindraharsoor3460
    @ravindraharsoor34606 жыл бұрын

    Nidhi Rajdhan looks like a Nun in my school

  • @MindfulBeauty4
    @MindfulBeauty46 жыл бұрын

    Guha himself is leftist

  • @vijayakumarralagopalan189
    @vijayakumarralagopalan1895 жыл бұрын

    Ndtv will give a chance any Modi Baiter

  • @shashankswamy6888
    @shashankswamy68887 жыл бұрын

    Omg! Dogma and myths? Where did this ignoramus get his education? In NDTV university?

  • @thapliyal_jii
    @thapliyal_jii2 жыл бұрын

    Nidi harvad razdan

  • @tubesun28
    @tubesun286 жыл бұрын

    left historician and islamists are the same...

  • @suryavarchasvi
    @suryavarchasvi4 жыл бұрын

    Romila Thapar ! Hahahaha All that drama over ayodhya !

  • @gyansagar13233
    @gyansagar13233 Жыл бұрын

    Mil mat jana

  • @mohitsharma-gy4pj
    @mohitsharma-gy4pj6 жыл бұрын

    romila thapar

  • @PoliticalMatter
    @PoliticalMatter6 жыл бұрын

    Just remove the name of nehru, Indira, Rajiv in every fuking building, street, university in India. If they want we can name bathrooms that way.

  • @KalamKhan-cq3jq
    @KalamKhan-cq3jq Жыл бұрын

    God bless Irfan Habib & Amu

  • @surajit1111
    @surajit11116 ай бұрын

    Ram guha tu to apna naam badal, tu to khud marxist leftist hai

  • @mufasirbaloch6784
    @mufasirbaloch67842 жыл бұрын

    Only hindulization

  • @tubesun28
    @tubesun286 жыл бұрын

    sudhanshu trivedi has effectively demolished BJPs point... he is just chattering nonsense

  • @fayazsultan6745
    @fayazsultan67455 жыл бұрын

    Ram Goha: "Hindutva just a myth and dogma." Best comment.

  • @ishwarreddy

    @ishwarreddy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Islam is a biggest myth on this earth

  • @ravindraharsoor3460
    @ravindraharsoor34606 жыл бұрын

    Why she doesnt invite people like Sanjeev Sanyal, Rajiv Malhotra and Shashi Tharoor?

  • @ravindraharsoor3460
    @ravindraharsoor34606 жыл бұрын

    Ram Guha is good. I had misunderstood him in the past

  • @ravindraharsoor3460
    @ravindraharsoor34606 жыл бұрын

    We should involve honest historians like Mr Gujarati, Mr Rajeev Malhotra, Mr Sanjeev Sanyal...

  • @TheKaushal28
    @TheKaushal285 жыл бұрын

    NDTV should also have searched what noted archeologist Dr KK Mohammed who was also a part of Babri Masjid excavation team has said about Dr. Irfan Habib. After listening to him one can definitely say that Dr Habib is a prejudiced and untrustworthy person.

  • @rdel1
    @rdel16 жыл бұрын

    Rakesh Sinha always comes with faults of others done in past.... and justify RSS/BJP action to rewrite the history by proving (without scholars' works) Ramayana and Mahabharata as HISTORY of India...... What Macaule and Marxist Historian did wrong in past..... selectively or genuinely....could be questioned on academic and scholars ground......and can be corrected through scholars work......... but How can Rakesh Sinha and his organizations RSS /BJP/Hindutva brigade come to use these as excuse to claim for including Ramayana and Mahabharata as HISTORY TEXT..... This is pattern of their propaganda of RSS and its trained people ...... that by arguing on mistakes of their opponents for denigrate them to DISLODGE something meaningful but not suiting them and then try to play victim card to legitimize or force their AGENDA.... for example RSSand BJP are on war-footing to criticize Congress as psedo secular...... but what they offered as alternate HINDU RASHTRA which is nothing but a THEOCRATIC RULE in India...... .... Rather than offering alternate to make secularism stronger in India which congress could not have done that extent.... But they are not interested in that.....because they have their agenda of HINDU THEOCRACY in India..... One more point to note is that HINDU is nothing but BRAHAMANISM ....so they are working to establish BRAHAMANICAL THEOCRACY in INDIA in the name of HINDU....

  • @pradeepsingh-qe4hn
    @pradeepsingh-qe4hn6 жыл бұрын

    Chutiya historians 😂😂😂😂

  • @KannapiranArjunan-vm2rq
    @KannapiranArjunan-vm2rq6 жыл бұрын

    But the proud hindutva BJP Government's Gujarat model produced gujarati fraudsters who looted the banks! Great achievement.. Anyhow no global Historians always look hindutva polluted mind set of Indian Historians.

  • @gauravchauhan1777
    @gauravchauhan1777 Жыл бұрын

    Gone this old golden debut ab to pure hindu Muslim chaltaa hee 😢😢😢

  • @viharamonastry
    @viharamonastry9 жыл бұрын

    Romila Thappar's integrity? A woman who refused to accept Somnath Temple was destroyed by Mohammed Gizni, in-spite of Al-Baruni's details, her integrity can only be compared to that of Goebbels who felt that Russian actions in East Prussia was barbarism, but totally ignored mass murders committed by Germans in Russia.

  • @TheMaskwa

    @TheMaskwa

    9 жыл бұрын

    Please show me where she has said that Somnath was not destroyed by Ghazni

  • @viharamonastry

    @viharamonastry

    9 жыл бұрын

    TheMaskwa Please read her book.

  • @TheMaskwa

    @TheMaskwa

    9 жыл бұрын

    viharamonastry Dont talk bullshit as usual. I have. Give me which book, section, and page number. Be precise. Don't be a useless conspiracy theorist that I know you are.

  • @viharamonastry

    @viharamonastry

    9 жыл бұрын

    TheMaskwa Search Teesta and romila thapar. 3 week old video

  • @TheMaskwa

    @TheMaskwa

    9 жыл бұрын

    viharamonastry Why dont you provide the link here and tell me where she says that?

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