*Just completed a big trim project on my house **MyBest.Tools** Performed very well. Also appreciate how easy it is to move, set up and store with the integrated stand. No more cutting wood on my knees.*

I made a router table with two fences, one split and one solid with the zero clearance style arch- I have a jointer so I haven't needed the split fence since building it. Instead of using MDF I used a 4ft melamine shelf as the top with a couple of strongbacks screwed into the underside which match the dimensions of my folding jobsite table saw to prevent flex and I can slide the table extension in snug to lock it into the table saw. I'm limited for space (1 car garage not dedicated solely to woodwork) so modularity is critical. I stole your idea about using the table saw extension from your storage box video for my router table build... so thanks a million for you vids and excellent ingenuity.

New sub. Just calibrated my R4512 yesterday. Router table is next.

Router table fence requirement/s basically comes down to individual needs, so you,ve established your requirements and built the fence accordingly, well done. Love the videos, keep em coming.

Hey. I would say you are correct. Simple is sometimes much more practical than trying to make everything fancy and in my opinion over complicating things . Stick to simplicity. Your on the right track. 👍

Old movie, but I make lots of slots in middle of the piece and then a fence is outstanding. And the slots is not end to end.

Used to love this channel, the builds were great and there was lots of innovation. Anybody know what happened to him because he hasn't posted for 4 years now...

I like the sacrificial fence idea. It will always fit the bit that you're using. Good video and project.

@Shopbuilt

6 жыл бұрын

+Paul Buckel Jr thanks!

It’s your shop you know what you need. Thanks for sharing 👍👍👍

I have that same saw. Want to try to build this. I am just a novice and tried building one before but could not get it level. Thanks for telling "how" you built it. So many youtubers just do and don't tell you how. Thanks again.

I made my router fence to attach to the table saw fence like yours. That was 11 or 12 years ago and I really like the convenience. And I made the fence like you're "supposed to" meaning the nice sliding fences stay on the shelf all the time, I'm not even sure I've ever used them. So I think your thought process was spot on!

great use of space

So, years ago I built Norm's router table. Exactly like the drawings I ordered from his site. The big fence with all the moveable pieces for all different type of bits from small to jumbo panel bits. Twenty years later that fence has seen one kind of bit, max 1" diameter molding bit, and that's rare. Mostly use that tool now for rabbits and dados because it's easier to set up over the table saw. I learned that panel raising is done best on a shaper so I bought a good one of them.

Very cool. I think the solution you went with is good. Simple is smoother. Another great ShobBuilt video. Thanks for sharing.

I think that is a great use of the space and the re-work of the fence looks great. It should really help the dust collection and if it works for you it’s irrelevant if someone thinks you’re doing it wrong. Outstanding job, I intend to put your lift on my to-do list when I’m able to build my table saw, outfeed, router area.

That lift is killer. Great job 👍

Great project. I have the same table saw and have been trying to figure out how I want to build my router table. This is perfect, I'm totally going to steal your idea! Thanks!

@Shopbuilt

6 жыл бұрын

+sadlk2009 nice!

I incorporated my router into my tablesaw this past summer. I really love the room it saves and the way it works. As for mistakes...who on youtube would ever point out if you made mistakes...I've NEVER seen anyone critique someone else on youtube for ANYTHING....

Yeah I totally agree. Keep it simple! As a beginer I fell into the trap of wanting to make a complex fence for all situations. But hey I'm a beginner I'm not going to making complex projects so I agree make a fence that will suit your needs.

Very nice work as always, I just got that table saw for Christmas and have been loving having it in my shop. I want to do the same this by mounting a router table of that wing. Watching someone go through the process is always helpful before one tries it, so thank you for putting the time in making your videos.

Funny how you've come full circle, huh? Cool project, Ryan! And I agree with you...the solid board should be good enough for what you use the router for.

You said comment below so here goes. Outstanding video, great finish product and you present yourself well. I just found your video so I'm going to subscribe. To end my comment please use a push stick. My blood went cold watching you rip that plywood.

i just moved my router to the table saw too thank now i know how my fence is going be about what your doing .i really like your stuff. l most off of your videos missed your videos when build your house keep it up

@Shopbuilt

6 жыл бұрын

+Paul Geier awesome! Thanks man I appreciate it.

Bro we miss you.

I had adjustable wings on mine and i set them once and never touched them again. If I would re build it, I would have one solid piece like you did. Great build.

Your timing couldn’t be better. I have the same RIDGID table saw as you and my next project was the router table. Thanks for the video.

@Shopbuilt

6 жыл бұрын

+Hakeem Hasworth nice!

I agree with you on the router fence thought process. I actually use my sacrificial fence more than anything else.

I need to do the same thing. I have a really small shop and don't have room for a router table. I like the router fence attached to saw fence.

I have this same saw and have been looking for a simple router table insert like this, thank you for posting! Great job, this will be my next shop improvement project.

Nice project, Ryan. I am planning on doing something similar and this has some good ideas. I like how you mentioning that it's hard to step away from what you see everyone else do and just evaluate for your own needs.

@Shopbuilt

6 жыл бұрын

+The Average Craftsman thanks!

My router table has a solid piece instead of 2 as well and I like it much more myself than the 2 piece fences. Great video as always!

@Shopbuilt

6 жыл бұрын

+Christian's Creations nice, thanks!

great video, thanks for posting. I wish my tablesaw had that T-track on top like yours does. I think I'll need to make a whole box contraption that can just lay over top of my fence, but your dust collection method looks super effective. Thanks again

The fence on my router table serves pretty much one purpose: it's a place for the dust collection hose to mount. I used it quite a bit when installing some hardwood flooring to make tongues on the ends of pieces for some fancy stuff, but that's the only time I can even remember using it. Thanks for the great videos!

Alot of great ideas in the small details you bring up. When I upgrade my own router table extension I will have to take these in mind. Thanks for a good video.

@Shopbuilt

6 жыл бұрын

+Michael Curtis thanks, glad you found it useful!

Love this and all of your vids. I have the same saw (partly because of your recommendation--thanks!), and I'm using a similar router table setup in that wing. So far I've just used a sacrificial scrap board against the fence when I need it. Completely agree that the slotted, adjustable fence isn't necessary. Can't thank you enough for sharing your process and thoughts! You do great work.

@Shopbuilt

6 жыл бұрын

+TheRubytuesday123 thanks man I really appreciate that!

It looks great. Nicely done.

I don't think it's a mistake to simplify to only what you need/use. Smart!

We seriously miss you brother. Merry Christmas and happy new year. Glad your doing well.

I've had my router table for about three years now and I've never adjusted the two sliding fences so I think you'll be fine.

Hey Ryan, I really like it, Don't have the room or bucks for a cabinet type saw, so i went with Jay Bates router lift and Stumpy Nubs adjustable fence in my bench! Later, Murph

I think your doing the right thing! Awesome job

That's awesome! And I have that same table saw and can't wait to add this upgrade

@andreww6738

6 жыл бұрын

Great video! I agree about the split fence as many others do...don't really need it. Its a nice feature I suppose. I have to switch from a portable router box/table because of lack of shop space. Been thinking for a while about moving it to the tablesaw like you. It looks great and quite sure it functions well. Thanks for the design idea. I like the hose attachment also. Thanks again.

Great vid ryan! If it works, it works. You do you!

Good job! I like your videos! I look forward to them.

I do the same with my router table fence. For big profile bits I joint a 2*4 and use it as a sacfrifical fence.

Nice video Ryan! turned out great' Thanks for sharing.😎👍JP

Nice job Ryan! 👍👊

Nice build Ryan! You probably won’t do it now, but if you miss having your tool storage where it was, you still have some space to the left and right of your router lift to put two smaller lift top bins or shallow drawers.

@Shopbuilt

6 жыл бұрын

+MRrwmac yeah, I never thought of that, I could probably mount it on the left wing.

That is a great idea. Most of use only use those type of bits anyway

Nice Ryan. The only purpose the split face router fence serves me, is I can adjust the space to match the thickness of my spiral upcut bit when I'm routing mortises. It provides a very helpful visual reference for me, so that can see exactly where to stop and start my mortises, even though I can't actually see them being cut. But this wouldn't be necessary for a guy with a horizontal slot mortiser ;D

@Shopbuilt

6 жыл бұрын

+Dan Pryde hmm, good point

I thought the storage area in the table saw wing was a great idea. But, it's your shop and only you know exactly what your needs are to work the way you want and need to work within your shop. Nice solution for your needs. Thumbs up for sure!

@gbjones54

6 жыл бұрын

Always like your approach to your builds Ryan. Thanks for sharing what you do.

@chrisjohnson6482

6 жыл бұрын

It's nice, but that space as a router table is so much more valuable. The fence being on a consistently parallel plane is really handy, and TS is already positioned near a work table to use as out/in feed.

That storage area was a neat idea! I might have to try that out. Great video though! I have an old router table that has a single fence like yours. It works great. I probably use it for similar things that you would and I haven't had any issues

I'm with you bloke, I just used a sacrificial fence with somewhere to mount the dust collector hose.

Simple is best when it comes to home-brewed shop accessories! For me, design is often dictated 50% by need and 50% by whatever trash boards I've got laying around. From there, it's the shortest route to getting the job done. This means some of my solutions don't always carry forward perfectly to the next problem, but I don't mind modifying things on the fly, either. So, with that being said, my router fence of choice is a jointed 2x4 scrap clamped to the table, notched for the bit and drilled through for the shopvac. 3 minutes to make, will likely last for years.

@Shopbuilt

6 жыл бұрын

+chrisbinnie well said, and agreed!

Excellent

I think you're dead on right about the sacrificial fence. Any new application you find can have it's own dedicated fence in a short time. Plus it is simple. Love simple solutions

Hi. Brilliant what ever works for you.

Great vid!!

A BIG 👍;) As for the fence,, I think it comes down to what you said, "what type of & size bits you're using and what you're using the fence and router table for in your case seems to work out perfect ..and tbh I'd do the same with my table saw fence if i didn't have a router table already. As always good stuff bro

If the straight fence suits your needs, that's all that matters. I have a cheapy bench top router table. The plate is plastic and bows downward, the split fence has been aligned, despite all my efforts. I think the wings of my R4512 are getting ready to get this upgrade, straight one-piece fence and all.!!

I built a big Steve Ramsey style fence from melamine for my table and almost only used it for jointing thinner pallet wood. Now I don’t even use it. I built a jointing sled for the table saw. Then again I almost never use it for anything other than round over and chamfers and rabbets. I’d gladly trade my 3hp router and table for a trim router.

Thanks for the video. I'm about to build a router table onto my saw, and I'm torn between mounting the fence as you did to your table saw fence, or building the router table one of its own. My only concern is knowing myself, I'd get the fence attached and get ready to sit down to do some routering, and all of a sudden I'd be going, wait I need to cut a few things on the saw. I'm afraid I'd be spending half my day taking it off and putting it back on.

Still watching actually but I certainly see where you're going with the one-piece sacrificial fence idea. What I WOULD have a problem with is sidelining my table saw to be able to use my router table. I would want a dedicated fence. I'd hate to have to break the setup of either one to use the other.

@Shopbuilt

6 жыл бұрын

+Jeremy Specce yeah, that is the sacrifice when deciding between floor space or table saw wing, for me, router table is just not used enough to justify the floor space. I can see how it would be an issue if the router table is part of your regular work flow.

Love the design Ryan. Ideas are a brewing!!! Lol

@wmabie1

6 жыл бұрын

Okay has anyone use/have an Atlas Table saw? I need to repair the fence on it.

Great video - some really great tips in there! Definitely going to have to try the iron on edge banding as shims trick & using a router as an edge jointer :)

@keithjacobson9163

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve used the iron on edge a few times for shimming some things around the shop. Maybe it’s the dry climate here in WY, but they all fell off or out.

I agree about the adjustable fence not being a must.

that's so awesome!

My only comment is that that particular router could not handle the larger bits and their power needs anyway. That set up is great for the router you're using. Build on!

What ever works for you is the best way , I have a Bosch router table so it came with it's own fence, I to use my DeWalt trim router more than the Bosch router table and router

@Shopbuilt

6 жыл бұрын

+Gary and judi Boyd yeah, I'm the same way and that's why I didn't want to use up any dedicated floor space for a router table because it's not something I use very often.

I abandoned the slide adjusting fence two years ago because I could never keep the outfeed side to remain flush with the infeed side. I was catching pieces and, often, would drift a sixth out from the bit, causing the pieces to have inconsistent profiles. I don’t need em. But I do need a lift.

Splitting the fences helps with some dust collection and as you stated for using like a jointer. Otherwise your zero clearance ideas are spot on. Curious how the MDF is holding up, any sag in it? Love your quick flip stops.

I just use an arch shaped cutout on my fence (very much like yours) and have had no reason to change. I still need to build a lift like yours though!

@Shopbuilt

6 жыл бұрын

+Dale Nimmo nice!

You're one of the best.

I think you're right as far as the one piece fence. It's nice to have a t-track in the table for a featherboard but I suppose you could just put in a couple threaded inserts if the need arises.

@Shopbuilt

6 жыл бұрын

+krtwood true, new video how to make a feather board;)

I keep saying that I will build a decent router table fence, but every time I say that I ask myself "why?". I have no answer yet so I continue to use a scrap of particleboard which has a sawn straight edge. Works for me.

Your fence is totally dependent on your needs. Go for it. If you need something else, I'm sure you will build it. Good video.

@Shopbuilt

6 жыл бұрын

+JB Marker for sure!

Love it! You forgot to add the link to the router lift video in the description.

Looks great. Thanks for the video...rr

thank you

i just made a copy of small drawers it was great idea

Thanks for your video! Very helpful, have soon in the future :) Best regards MrHandwerk :)

Nice

Nice job, i have a similar setup with a simple fence and suits all my routing needs. No point in having anything fancier than that. One question where did you get your drill bit that does your countersinking??

Woha coincident lol. I finished mine yesterday, very similar. Mine is made from a piece of left over melamine and plexi glass for the insert. I made my entire table removable since I sometimes need to remove it. It slots in to the saw extension with some hdpe brackets I made. I did not get my fence square either and also had to shim it, haha. My fence idea is similar to yours, just one piece with a small slot for dust extraction. It seems to work fine, but time will tell. I have a few adjustments I need to consider, and I need to pretty up the cut edges of the melamine. the only thing I havent figured out is how to route the short ends of the boards safely, since I have no T-track and really no room for one either. So I cant use a mitre guage. Perhaps I can use a backing board..

@Shopbuilt

6 жыл бұрын

+Auarhau cool, I never even considered making it removable, good idea!

Do you have a video on how you made your storage box added onto your Rigid table saw. Watching you taking it out and adding you router table got me thinking. Cheers Kully

That looks like Lets Bastel!

I took off the sliding panels on my router fence, and installed a solid piece which has worked fine. Have you considered dust collection from below?

Good video. What kind of drill bits are you using. And.. Do you like them. They drill and countersink, I like that.

I likes this a lot. Question (not criticism) : Would mdf not sag over time with weight of router hanging there?

Thanks for another good video. I dont think you've made a mistake, it's your shop and after all, you can always change it. As a fellow KZreadr I really despise "Safety Police" but dude get a push stick. I'm sure it wasn't as close as it looks but at about 8:50 it looked like your hands were awful close to the blade. Thanks for sharing and best regards

Thanks for this one. I have the same saw and have been wanting to move my router table to the wing like this. Time to pull the trigger.

Nice looking project! Could you post me the link to that countersink bit? It look pretty awesome!

Awesome, this is next on my list of upgrades for my own R4512. But at 1:25, isn't that bar supposed to be even with the table surface? I think mine is - you may have installed yours upside down.

great work can you tell me how accurate is that ridgid table saw

After you use the saw and router could you give a thoughts/review video on it. I have the same saw and a separate store bought router table I got for my birthday a few years back and I'm thinking of adapting the table to my Rigid table saw and wondering if it's worth it. I don't want to destroy the router table if it's not as good a plan to do this. Thanks.

i have the same table saw. you have the bar on the end on wrong. if you flip it around it goes to the same level as the side wing.

Looks like Im one of many that have the R4512 saw and been looking to add a router table/lift. Any chance you could put plans out for your table and fence? I think you might have a few that would buy them even potentially.

Good

Can you still use the table saw fence without taking off the router fence? I'm planning on renewing my router table and this look perfect for what I want.

Based on your described needs... You don't need an adjustable fence. I personally use mine with bits that dont have barings.