business is business, this isn't colonialism. If you make a poor business choice and you fail, who's fault is it? On the other hand, if you make the right business choice, you will succeed.

@changli4046

5 жыл бұрын

Good one. Great deal so far.

@tengteng4076

3 жыл бұрын

recolonization of Africa in Chinese hands thru economic blackmail

We want Africa country been like Europe and America too , so that we don’t need to travel anymore. We have good partnerships like China

How long have the colonial powers been in Africa? How long has China been in Africa? Who developed the Africa more? Why? Africa had to make a choice allows the colonial powers to retake it or partner up with China. The answer is very simple. Early colonies can be over 300 years old. The Chinese have not set up colonies in Africa, been there for about 40 years. In 40 years China has done more for Africa than the old colonial masters have done for Africa in over 300 years of history, what the hell? Yet the Colonial powers are very willing to talk about China exploiting Africa. Hypocrites or forgotten their own history. When did China take Africans as slaves, when did they extract something for nothing when did they set up colonies in Africa?

@irenedavo3768

6 жыл бұрын

Kyn Chan please watch video of Jim Nduruchi called Andrew re Jigger Victims in Kenya

@kynchan3332

6 жыл бұрын

Introduced by the old European trade. Perhaps some medical treatment and rubber shoes from the Chinese will help with the Jigger problem. But of course with new development, especially the concrete dwellings and infrastructure should create inhospitable environments for jiggers and faster, better access to healthcare facilities. African economic prosperity and knowledge will help to control and possibly eradicate jiggers.

@starloszelson4541

6 жыл бұрын

You are absolutely correct. BUT they are going to have to hire and train more Africans

@kynchan3332

6 жыл бұрын

A Chinese worker is experienced and expected to work 10+ hours a day, natives say they have rights. A trainee needs to put in just as much time, effort and be far more motivated as they are starting with very little experience and competing against the Chinese. The worst trainees skip work, disappear early, send in others to take their place and steal resources like oil on site to resell. That is an awful start. The best trainees are slower than the Chinese but at least motivated to keep working. An excellent start but using too many will still miss the production targets and exceed the costs agreed between the African governments and the Chinese companies. Training is a huge problem. The colonials did not hire and train on mass. China is at least doing some training. The same toughness, motivation, discipline, focus and willingness to learn is expected from the African trainees. But to focus on the developed powers today they hate training and investing in their own people - they'd rather import people who already have the skills. How many large companies like training people? If they can steal from small companies, outsource and import they choose those options instead. How many graduates leave University and struggle to find training? Its a huge percentage. The Chinese are little different in this regard. No one wants to train people because it costs time, money, there are more difficulties to deal with and once trained that person could just leave you. As an example BA in the UK used to train commercial pilots without having to charge the trainee anything. But as budget airlines, like Virgin, came on the scene those pilots would be offered work by others who did no training. So the no training company suffered no costs due to training while others bore all the cost. Now, no one offers free training. With Chinese companies the wages were so low, in the past due to fierce competition for that work that it wasn't a problem if people left, if they ever did. There was also few employment or health and safety rights. Knowing that you could be replaced easily (within hours or within a day) and government would not support or fight for you made you want that work or any opportunity that work provided. The Chinese complain some Africans are too comfortable to compete on the same terms.

@kynchan3332

6 жыл бұрын

A nice option would be for other developed countries to send in their engineering companies to compete against the Chinese ones. Then the Africans may get an even better deal on training and better options on the infrastructure. Its too easy to say what the Chinese should do without first doing it themselves to determine whether it is actually easy or not. Since the developed countries struggle to train their own people using that as a strong basis to what others should do is a very weak position to offer any criticism.

China shows what globalization really means. It is not about resource plundering. It is not about war instigations. It is not about slave labors. It is about building the infrastructures, the economic zones, the power plants, all the tangible THINGS that make economic prosperity and social mobility possible. Wherever China goes, Prosperity follows. Win-Win for the World.

@PureVikingPowers

5 жыл бұрын

China will own all of Africa soon, when the Africans can't pay China back they will take the country. Don't expect Europe or the US to save you than, we told you all of that years ago!

@markrobertmurphysr

5 жыл бұрын

AFRICA ALREDDY IS BEHIND -IN CHINA'S......CASH INFASTRUCTURE LOANS FOR COMMERCE,,,,,,,,,,THAY CHINA HAV INFLUXXED OVER 1 MILLION PPL INTO AFRICA,,,CHINA HAS 60 MILLION EMPTY HOMES BRAND NEW BUILT,,,SEPT 22 CHINA HAS 99 YR LEASE W SRI'LANKA PORT AUTHORITY AHN NOW OWN DEBTS IN AFRICA OVER 60 BILLION-180 BILLION,,,,URE GOVMNT CANT PAY BACK ..........LIKE VENAZWALA' PETRO DOLLORS,,,,,,WE STOLE VENAZWALA,,,URE NXT

@tabartmi

5 жыл бұрын

Lol Globalism is not a win-win for your country, China will take your resources, put you in debt to the Chinese dollar, influence elections that go against them, teach Chinese to your children and influence their minds towards communism. Always looking to someone else for your problems pathetic like a child

@donaldduck8499

5 жыл бұрын

It looks like, but is it really the way you describe it? Why to Blacks go to Europe when China is so much better than the rest of the world?

@donaldduck8499

5 жыл бұрын

@@anthonyabrefa4554 Look at Tibet or research Uighurs….

western countries do nithing while they are busy criticizing

@xkaku9072

4 жыл бұрын

1manuscriptman same goes for you

@thulasmash2195

4 жыл бұрын

@1manuscriptman The day America pours $60 billion in Africa is the day hell will be 0 degrees.

Hello African friends, brothers and sisters! Hello from a Chinaren! This is your country, you have the veto power to say yes or no, please use it anytime you want. To my Chinese country man, please work hard, be honest and good to African people. They are our friend/partner and they deserve every OUNCE of our respect Thanks

@sentinelsxmen5340

6 жыл бұрын

Live long and prosper to African Nations and China.

@Pulaco.Dimantag

6 жыл бұрын

Invest in the Philippines too.. the climate for good partnership is laid out already

@sharonpurnell7316

5 жыл бұрын

Shanchuan Zhao THANK YOU💝💝💝

@blkqueen6201

5 жыл бұрын

Very nice, reflect that attitude in your country also, it will make a huge diffrence.

really tired of that white dude cutting in when others are talking

@rayxr

5 жыл бұрын

He's the host, dumbass. It's his responsibility to do that to prevent any one commenter from taking too much time.

@joshyang7226

5 жыл бұрын

BUT how will fake news make their points

By saying that China empowers dictators by building and improving African infrastructure is a vague argument. Although I do believe that China is not doing this for the love of the African people. Every country acts with self-interest. By helping African- as well as Latin American countries to improve their infrastructure, China will have an economic upper hand in those countries, as well as possible political support. The Chinese government even pays local African and Latin American politicans and students to go to China in order to create a positive view on China with the hope that they will implement Chinese-friendly policies in their home country. I have no problem that the Chinese are doing this, because they have (not yet) acted with violence. But when they do, it won't be incorrect to compare it to colonialism.

@changli4046

5 жыл бұрын

I guess we are just doing business, but I'm really happy to see both our countries are makeing benefit. Do be aware of the "colonialism" though. I can't speak for all the Chinese and I'm sure some of them are more greedy than we thought, just like all the human beings.

@donaldduck8499

5 жыл бұрын

Look at Tibet or research Uighurs….

@bonek6993

5 жыл бұрын

You mean scholarship for students? The students that go to China is quite low. Paying politicians? Do you have a link to that? China is involved in Africa mainly interms of engineering. They get the contracts because they are relatively fast, technology like pre-fabrication which brings the cost down so all that at a good cost. China doesn't decide where, when or type of infrastructure is being built. If it was just 'China friendly' policy as you purport it would have failed. Even studying in China is very recent for students and the preference for Chinese engineering came before the student exchange or scholarships.

Whatever western they want to say about China and also Africa, up the western people

Seems that everybody is looking down on Africa, like that they are not capable of choosing the right fair deals and trade with the Chinese.. I believe that the rise of Africa will be a shock everyone in the world.

The interview seems to not turn out the way the host wanted it to...

@wozzacervelo2702

3 жыл бұрын

lol 😂

I totally understand why these discussions takes place. Knowing full well for those who are deeply capitalistic conceptually programmed, simply can't grasp at the idea of investment without short term profits and personal gains.

China is doing business with every nation, Chinese are in Australia doing business, they are in Malaysia, Singapore, USA etc, and every nation wants to do business with China, so if China wants to do business with African nations what's the fuss, the question is why are western countries so interested in Africa? Why are they so obsessed with African race and their nations, any civilization built on injustice and unfairness is bound to collapse, you claim you are the race with the highest IQ so you should know better. The prejudices, injustice, ignorance and irrational hatred among the western cultures bring distrust and doesn't enhance healthy relationships.

Both.China will import resources for their citizens at cheap prices.

@messiahking1710

6 жыл бұрын

Why just use your money to buy these resources at good prices or shut up！

@changli4046

5 жыл бұрын

I guess whoever offered the best got the resources.

I do not like Europeans view of the China/Africa relationship

China 🇨🇳 is still working on knowledge transfer to help with industrialization on Chinese trade and economic development innovation into economic power and growth.????The west are 😢 for losing the economic game in Africa.?????

At 19'54 the compere asks "This model of colonialism is the chinese working with the top officials in a country, who are possibly autocrats or dictators, and bribing them, and the benefits of that relationship don't feed (?) down to the ordinary people. Isn't that a form of modern colonialisation?" Yes it is, totally, but that decribes rather the role of the west in Africa today. Hats off to the compere for putting together this round table of experts and letting them react to oft-heard judgements.

Whatever we needed to go and see in Europe, we now have it in Africa. Globalization is changing the dynamics of the world. First, we are dealing with infrastructure, then we will deal with industrialization.

I feel a bit confused, I remember when I was young around 80s to 90s what I see on TV, news or magazine about Africa is children with big head naked running on the dirt tracks, I heard that is because of mulnutrition,that was done by Western photographers, heard they win many awards because of that, billions of fund and aid was founded by the west to help the Africans, but seems like there is no progress, just wonder where those billions aid gone? Are those money just goes to the accounts of africa then deducted the commission then swims backed? but now we got KZread, with that I saw roads fast trains, houses, nice building, factories, power plants, telecommunications, even the Internet speed is faster than my country, heard that it was from Chinese investment aid . Kinda strange. Why such a huge different? One things more funny is acordding to the western media, China send millions to Africa to colonise Africa, from what I know, Africa people body size and strength are one of the strongest on earth, just wonder if Chinese people go there is there any chance to win? One millions against billions?? And also confuse China sell cheap stuff there like household, phones that normally lifespan around 3 to 5 years but the price compare to western product is like eh..........sorry for being sarcastic I just can't help myself when seeing those accusations with no facts.

The Chinese money giving is not as simple as handing out money. That money is set for infrastructure development. So unless the African government tries to put the infrastructure in his pocket or try to push it into a bank account it is rather difficult for it to be used for bribing individual politicians. In contrast Western aid in the form of free money can easily be smuggled into a corrupt politician's pocket/bank account. Even aid in the form of food and medication can be sold and the money banked. Some much of the Chinese money is set as loans for jointly planned African/Chinese infrastructure development. Now, I'd imagine the ex-colonial might be able to shove a whole railway into their trouser pocket. But in practice its not really feasible. Although the African government can add a small tax to fares for customers using those services eg toll roads, tickets, utility bills. But the infrastructure massively enhances African productivity.

@kynchan3332

6 жыл бұрын

Or shove a power plant into one's pocket. A little deluded.

God Bless China and Africa even more 👍👍👍

The westerner came to Africa , this continent lost resource, labor, languages, peace; The Chinese came to Africa, study and respect the local language, supply the opportunities for local labor , just construction ,not the USA's destruction, and the African countries which cooperate with China get the 8-10% GDP growth.

With no strings attached it will certainly have terms attached eg for the purposes of railways going through a country to connect to resource rich regions of another country and to get it out to where it can be shipped to China. The side benefit is the country in between gets a railway without paying for it. Or it could be no conditions for the next 10 years before starting to repay. Or some other concession in exchange for. The Chinese are very business like and so are Africans. Talk business and they appreciate that. Despite what the colonial powers think Africans are not stupid to think they will get something for nothing. Africans don't expect something for nothing either.

@changli4046

5 жыл бұрын

"non-whites", seriously? I guess that's how you lost the business.

I am not an apologist for China, or for the West. I am a student of international affairs. However, I have serious problems with the notion that Africans are infants who don't know their interests and who don't have any say in who they decide to engage internationally.That is a difficult argument to sustain.

China have the technology and technical skills set to take on the projects that is on going. So at first you will see more Chinese Labor which is more rounded. It’s will have to train African to take on major projects which is taking place also. To get African to the standards needed. The Chinese relationship with African is going in the right directions. But as one say things don’t happen overnight. The next 10 or 20 years is what going to make the difference.

The difference between China and the Western's approach is China believe her experience especially in infrastructure has benefitted her development, likewise Africa could benefit in the same manner. Hence, their proposals in this sector. China had reduced her own logistics costs from 29% of her GDP to 14% today. In term of her GDP, this means Trillions of Dollars in saving. According to WB, most African nations today still spend an average of 20-30% of their GDP in this sector! Hence, in the development of her HSR, the West seemed unable to understand this factor and keeps on asking as to when China will stop developing her infrastructure? My guess is China will continue to develop this sector until she is among the most efficient at some 7 to 8% of her GDP!

the results speaks for themselves, look at Ethiopia Infrastructure it has improved since Chinese investment. most African countries are improving their economy under China's aid.

@MrRight-fu1gf

5 жыл бұрын

lucky mathye correction it’s investment not aid. China does give aid with doctors and building wells. But major economic growth and infrastructure comes from investment.

It's time over wester world afrikan ar not sleeping and we really know what game you play and your propaganda will not stop afrika and China to work together

@blkqueen6201

5 жыл бұрын

Protect the environment.. Make sure the environment is protected.

Ppl need to chill the fk out! If a country can benefit itself by help building other countries, what’s the fking wrong with that!?

Well I am a mere citizen of South Africa but as the introduction implies, I would rather be regarded as an opportunity than a troubling source of instability! I have 19 years of experience in the Civil Engineering and Construction Industry, yet my experience will never be transferred to my sons unless serious opportunities are created in South Africa! As a professional we cannot exactly allow our democracy, tender policies- nor labour practices to be undermined...Learning from each other can only be mutually beneficial! At least at grassroots level we generally feel better than the European sense of colonization which is already perfected...If I choose to be colonized, I tend to lean more to China as this might take decades to come, if Africa cannot get their act together!

China-Africa relations - who benefits? USA benefit, only rich customer can afford to buy USA luxury and branded product/services

As a African is good business

wow this made my day.

America have a partnership with London, but after a while America became stronger!

Western Colonialism is history! It is time for the families of the earth to reunite

American news organizations can best serve listeners/viewers by having technical experts as guests, primarily, rather than opinionated journalists!!! This is a first-rate program, which EDUCATES the public! Americans are best served by receiving more facts, than by hearing more opinions!!!

So there is a host trying to argue with a whole table of experts they invite？ My God！

Haha nice try western propaganda just like WMD in Iraq right?

Hello I apologize for bring this up and making this remark so late in time. But there's some good reason to doing it: your show in itself its very interesting indeed. However if you want the program to become interesting to the point that the people who sees it continue to do so, you have to make people getting nailed in the program. And its not when your table guests start to debate and intertwine with each other and expressing their opinions de facto and attract the audience to the debate that you I finish it. Its ridiculous and YOU'LL could have more audience if you had just more time. At least 5 or 10 minutes! That's it and thank you and good night. NB: sorry for my bad English syntax grammar and spelling. Greetings from PORTUGAL

Cry babies

All ethnicities should take care of themselves first to preserve their own nations. That's "Natural." No need to be angry about that. Africans should also take special interest in caring for their own ethnicities too. Asians should, Latinos should, Caucasians should, etc. But that does not exclude all ethnicities from doing business together when its beneficial for all the people involved.

In 1978, China also sold oil to Japan in exchange of products. Actually only few countries have abundant resources like Angola which most critics like to quote. However, China invest almost every countries in Africa. Countries like Ethiopia obviously have less resources yet China invest most. If you are poor, do you just wait someone to save you yet you donot like to put your efforts, such as labor force or resources if you have to others who want to try ?

Where does Matthew get his terms and definitions of Modern Colonialism for a country as a whole? History obviously!

Propaganda, dis doesn't work any more west, .

Maybe people need to pay attention to China's stronghold in poor underdeveloped countries.

Monopoly in real time. When I first heard of this "partnership" between China and Africa I was sceptical. But after research and this video in particular I have a very different outlook on the subject. I do feel that China has no real intention to help any African nation or even single person. I do feel that business within African nations for China is solely for Chinese gain. But what is wrong with that? If African leadership wants to literally "sell out" their people and countries for personal gain, then there is really nothing any one citizen of that country can do. It is the leaderships responsibly to negotiate good deals for the betterment of their people and generations to come. These African nations are not helpless and can say no to a proposed deal if it is not beneficial for both parties. Ask your self this, when has any situation been beneficial for all parties involved when billions are given for little to nothing from the other party? The Chinese are playing to win and the African leadership is allowing this to happen yet again not for the advancement of their people, but so that they will become more wealthy. This is not sad this is reality.

In the beginning Africa was most rich for it treasures of diamonds and gold.Many divided the spoils of war.they were a Charity after the war. Now setting up shop is another thing.

love the generalizations of Ryder

White guy lecturing others about colonialism.. lol that's rich

So negative about Chinese in Africa, nothing like colonization​.

@gcyalbert

5 жыл бұрын

@Sudan Nutella What is the problem with paying debt with ports? Bank will take your house if you can't pay mortgage. It is still business, isn't it?

@gcyalbert

5 жыл бұрын

@Sudan Nutella Every loan comes with collateral. If you can't pay the loan, you pay the collateral. Isn't it common sense? No one force you to borrow. Don't borrow what you can't afford.

Without interference from outside one should believe the elites in Africa know what is good for them.

That African dude has a Chinese last name "Zhou".

China greatest country in the world

The host is extremely rude and impolite. I find hard to understand why someone with such poor manners would be hosting a roundtable with personalities as experienced in their field as them. Embarrassing and outrageous attitude, especially for Hannah Ryder who clearly shows through her face gestures how disrespected she felt.

When America start trading in China 40 years ago, who benefit ?. Has America exploited China for low wages, pollution. etc.

@karangputih

5 жыл бұрын

Surely yes, the Yankees got benefit from Chinese low wages labors, but Chinese is very smart and hard working people, they are soon developing themselves, rise very quick and now compete US in every aspects.

can u talk abiuts chinas hold and efforts of the pacific also

Why too much jealous, towards China for helping aferica for their basic infrastructure?

We'll see in 30,40 years if they are still smiling.

Colonists would think like colonist.

Africans seem to be happy about China buying them. I think they can do whatever they want. If they want the chinese buying them, so let them. When China is able to give them jobs and keep the africans out of europe, I am more than happy. The less africans we have in europe, the better. I do not care what China does in africa. Will africa benefit from it or not? Who knows? I know what China did in Cambodia and if Africa shares the same destiny, than this is fine by me.

The consequence of the dollar hegemony is a huge trade deficit, because the United States needs to flood the world with a large amount of dollars, and other countries must use inexpensive commodities in exchange for dollars. Therefore, the U.S. manufacturing industry must be unable to compete and transfer to other countries. These are the deformed economic models caused by the greedy capital of the United States! In order to transfer contradictions, American politicians say that they have been caused by other countries, thus blocking trade in other countries! If the American people are still not aware of this issue clearly, then the United States will not really be great again! In fact, there is no absolute democracy in this world. This is just a game made by the capital group that fled from Europe to the United States in World War II. Democracy requires funds to run for elections, and it is about the capital group behind the official US government. And unlike China, they will not allow any capital to control this country, which is why Western capital wants to get the Asian market and fear the socialist countries! The Belt and Road Initiative is actually bypassing the maritime trade channel controlled by the United States, and Americans are certainly afraid! Just like the oil China renminbi, China's global industrial division of labor competitiveness is gradually approaching the United States! Therefore, the United States began to comprehensively curb China’s development. US hegemony does not allow any country to compete with the United States! Look at the war launched by the United States. You will understand the reasons for all this! Although the United States is a highly democratized country, behind the democratic government are controlled by large interest groups, such as arms and oil finance. This will inevitably drive the United States to use war and other means to maintain its dominance. This is why U.S. spending has not been used to build the United States. After all, China has experienced a history of 5,000 years of civilization. Looking back at the history of China, the dynasty that used force to dominate was often dying, and the history of the world was also reviewed. Therefore, China will not take the old road of the United States. China's One Belt and One Road is to link the Eurasian African continent with railways, so that it can form the world's largest trade market. The advantage is that it can be separated from the US sea route control. Once the largest world trade market is formed, the United States will be marginalized. The United States will no longer be the central force of the world, and the center of the world will return to Europe, Asia and Africa! This is why the United States is so afraid of the Belt and Road. And China has begun to compete with the United States in high-end manufacturing, so the United States has to do everything to kill China! Including political diplomacy, financial warfare, media public opinion warfare, biological weapons warfare, arms competition, and finally military warfare. In fact, let us review the history of the world and have a very clear answer. China is a country with a history of civilization of 4000-5000 years. If a country can exist for such a long time, then it must know how to rule the land. Since the World War II and the industrial revolution, the West has begun to become the center of the world, but it has only been two hundred years. Because the short sight of political gaze cannot rule the country for a long time, look at the Mongolian Empire. Historically, Many outside nations have invaded Chinese territory, but they will not rule for more than one hundred years. Because they only use force and no wisdom. Maybe technological force can be a leader in the world for a while, but it won't last long. The reason behind this is the political system! In the future, the United States will be difficult to compete with China at many levels, such as market size and demand and consumption levels, industry chain, talent pool, political system and reform capabilities.

both better deal than with the usa

Accordion

It’s gotta be somebody! America or China!

Without any profit who's don't doing any help India also in 17 century believe the Britain but what happens in India 1750 to 1947 Britain also built roads and railways school like more such a great things But in future British ruling India more than 200years So be careful with china

All europian and american you good for racism,colonializm,hypokrit, devide et Impera 👏👏👏👏 Congratulation

Ha. Ha How long your great grand father been helping Africa for the last hundred years and the results ? What's the results since partner with new candidates today ?

France people r eating still Africa money from previous colonial...haha

中国和非洲都将受益，倒霉的是欧洲

This small discussion doesn't represent the big picture, take a holiday there pls,, I think I think, I believe I believe, probably, maybe, if this if that,,,,,,go ask the president pls,,, making assumptions

America - Africa relations Who benefited?

@7pinky791

4 жыл бұрын

Britain - Africa relations. Who benefited?

@7pinky791

4 жыл бұрын

France - Africa relations. Who benefited?

in short run, China surely benefits from its investment in Africa. As the infrastructure development is improved, the Africa and African will bebefit.Chinese believe that in a modernized society, resource only valuable when it can be exchenged through modernzied supply chains and so on. when you rent some land from others for a fixed period of years, you grow peach trees and do some farmings, you benefit first, but gradualy the land owner is the ultimate benificary. afteral China-Africa relation is a cooperative and peaceful give and take process, not Exploitation or so called new clonism .

China U need us we don't need U. You're in Africa for one thing only , minerals. Not help. Plz Americans U R more educated U R welcome 2 African 4 business. Not this Chinese.

the host trying so hard with good guy bad guy story :) hoping his target audience will just go beeee beee and repeat after him He'll put u an idea in ur head,.subcontiencly,.diCaprio style

Charity is when you give from the heart.Setting up shop is a whole nother ball game.

new Imperialism

Africans be careful

African guys, you experienced European colonialism and American imperialism much more than enough to understand how bad there are, like us Vietnamese. But keep an eye on China, you don’t know how “Chinese expansionism” looks like because you are not their neighbors like us. Gain benefits from them as much as you can.

China Afrika win win bisnis

Haaaa hatersss, no matter what love china