I wish people would be as angry at the extreme wealthy who are siphoning the money to themselves, as they are as angry at the immigrants. While there may be an immigration issue it pales into insignificance to the issue of wealth inequality.

@rhinoboy6603

Жыл бұрын

Yep

You know the farm owners charge those workers to live in those caravans? So in the end theyre really paying less than min wage.

@06howea1

2 жыл бұрын

How can you prove that?

@hudson7354

Жыл бұрын

It’s true

@pamelaadam9207

Жыл бұрын

@@06howea1 i was involved with a case last year and it was all detailed out how much the daffodil pickers had to pay for overcrowded shoddy caravans and its an industry standard.

So Mogg's idea for post-Brexit labour shortages is to replace one set of immigrant workers with another? That won't play well in Leave households.

@heathercowley724

5 жыл бұрын

😂😂

@aminulhussain2277

Жыл бұрын

Maybe leave households should learn how an economy works.

@rhinoboy6603

Жыл бұрын

@@aminulhussain2277 if they had done that they would have voted remain

In the 50's and 60's, the rich farm owners were laying off British farmworkers for profit and treating them like dirt, why would British want to work for them again

I wonder who picked the fruit before free movement of people?

@nmarks

6 жыл бұрын

Those people now work in areas like engineering, IT, aerospace, health . . . . .

@wallywoodwally5877

6 жыл бұрын

fact gasm. Oh yeah? Step up the ladder there, then! Get real!

@kohedunn

6 жыл бұрын

Seasonal workers , have always been part of the landscape of Britain ... Surely you know that ? Seasonal workers came from all over the world.. Many were students , wanting to experience life abroad...

@wallywoodwally5877

6 жыл бұрын

anne dunn. Exactly!

@pr4442

6 жыл бұрын

The only thing these working class louts can pick are their noses.

I think even John Harris is surprised at life outside Londonland.

Here's what I saw. The interviewer cannot hide his bias, JRM makes time for an unscheduled interview, answers the question perfectly reasonably and logically then the interviewer spends his time in the background pulling faces like a child. It's a typical reaction when you know you are wrong, but you don't want to admit it. Also, when he says "I bet this woman voted remain" gleefully, it's because she looks middle class. This is left wing snobbery at it's best - all the working class people (who don't matter) voted leave and here's a middle class person who voted remain, and how wonderful he thinks she is. You see, the left now just dismiss the working classes, when the whole point of the left as a cause is to empower them.

@StickyManMaxxx

6 жыл бұрын

yeh weird how she was a remainer tho innit...? all these prejudices exist for a reason...my entire life has been spent surrounded by fuckwit builders reading the sun..guess who voted for brexit!

@StickyManMaxxx

6 жыл бұрын

also funny how all the blokes have 0 ability to converse or argue their point either...'silly little man' yeah alright mate I'm sure the professional journalist has done less research than your doley self eh

@moali125

6 жыл бұрын

There was much more to see, and it is unfortunate you chose to nitpick instead. The video shows the discrepancy of what the working class nowadays expects and what there is. Brexit should stop foreign workers coming and doing a lot of these working class jobs. So far, so good - less immigrants, good enough for the Iranian at the bookies. Except, a lot of the working class Brexiteers won't even think of the raspberry fields the Romanian cared for and so acres of fruit rots - they're too good for that work, the largest group of benefit recipients are. And who could stomach raspberries at double their current price? Maybe that woman with that lovely bike. The free market has put us in a conundrum hasn't it. To be fair, the EU subsidies of a lot of these farms should end soon - so they'll get that great independence they strove for with that leave vote. As you were.

@fujiwuji891

6 жыл бұрын

He made time for all protesters that approached him and wanted a platform. Say what you want about Mogg and his personal beliefs, but he gives everyone a fair and equal chance to express their views in a civilized debate.

@sonicfoxxmusic4281

6 жыл бұрын

I don't read The Sun....a lot of builders i've met(my best friend is one) are as far away from your "f*ckwit builder" comment than you can possibly imagine. To be honest, a lot of the builders i know just grabbed any job which brought in money years ago and most of them just buckled down and got on with it(through lack of other jobs or choices)...are they happy?...yep and NO, because they have a living and when they clock off they go and do what really matters to them. One of them co-writes with me(i'm a pro-songwriter)...want the proof? Google SWEET LADY ENGLAND by Hannah Drury...an English Anthem...music written by a "f*ckwit" builder"(your words..not mine)...except he's NOT..nor does he read The Sun...he's an artist too..and a bloody good one. There you have it StickyManMaxxx....how do you like them apples? Guessing you're an intelligent builder are you?..you said your entire life has been surrounded by erm..BUILDERS.

The iranian man complaining in bad english about foreigners. That was interesting. The other thing I didn't understand: seasonal workers program from outside the EU? Why?

@isshoyggdrasil7334

4 жыл бұрын

Basically people who can't or don't wanna compete, voted for BREXIT. Narrow minded assholes.

@lepetitchat123

Жыл бұрын

He's a raging hypocrite

Wot happened before 2007 who picked the fruit?

@nothome1196

5 жыл бұрын

BRits

@nockerparry256

5 жыл бұрын

labour from abroad under work permits.

@nockerparry256

5 жыл бұрын

17.4 million?

@izdatsumcp

5 жыл бұрын

@@williammackintosh6471 Perhaps we should get rid of the minimum wage and loosen labour laws for minors. I'm sure the Guardian would be much behind that move.

@Nuron666

4 жыл бұрын

before 2007, it was the Portuguese and other NON British migrants picked the fruits.

British people definitely know how to pick fruit. I have done it and I am sure others can too. The fact is that Eastern Europeans are willing work for much less money.

@martinpugh1008

Жыл бұрын

Yes Archie you are absolutely correct and spot on with your comments our so called government are just breeding resentment by British workers against immigrants instead of dealing with the root causes of the problem

I’m an advocate of fair trade... fair price for consumers, fair wages for workers and fair income for innovation.. the market dictates... it’s true, hardworking decent British people don’t want to bust there backs in a field for minimum wage... the cost of fruit has to go up and wages need to go up... minimum wage is not a livible income for British people.. so corporations and government hide the fact by manipulating foreign workers who can live on it and hide the data figures on employment and wage limits.. foreign workers go home with cash in there pockets... it’s sad...corporate business and government is dictating to the markets abusing cheep labour and the common man pays the price.. price of fruit goes up temporarily to stable the market... short term bad, yes... Long term= no economic effect other than people get fair wages.. immigrants aswell. Awesome!!!

All that nonsense and worry promulgated. Then JRM just states plainly that we can have a seasonal workers policy. Just like we had before in 2004 before eastern Europe joined the EU with free movement

@Correctrix

6 жыл бұрын

But these people specifically voted Leave to get all those foreigners out.

@TheSeventhSeal

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, and returning to a pre 2004 state (before eastern european immigration rocketed) will do that.

@veggie42

6 жыл бұрын

Jollysmith Supermarkets didn't sell as much fruit and vegetables and many couldn't afford it. Life expectancy grew from cheaper fruit and veg

@veggie42

6 жыл бұрын

Paul Thompson NO, the NON EU is the problem

@SnazzBot

6 жыл бұрын

The majority of immigrants are from outside the EU as it is.

Why the music when the Romanian woman starts talking ?

@nmarks

6 жыл бұрын

Its like that in Romania.

@Adam-wv2lf

6 жыл бұрын

Did not notice that, nice spot. Interesting. Right wing papers do a LOT worse than that but still...

The locals were kicked off the fields so the land owners, could use cheap labour.Why cheap, because they are tied to the super markets that govern what price they are prepared to pay and their inspectors tell farmers when to spray.

Good to see the real face of English ppl. This country will go down the drain even more.

8:00 - Jacob Rees-Mogg is saying, in response to information about raspberries rotting in the fields cause of labor shortage, that the solution is to bring seasonal workers from OUTSIDE EU... Pure insanity.

@izdatsumcp

5 жыл бұрын

That name sounds a bit Eastern European.

The reporter says good luck at the bookys 🤣🤣😂🤣😂😂the man said ur welcome 😂🤣😂🤣😂

They don't address the question of WHY local people aren't willing to pick the fruit. The answer is complex, and involves the price paid for food, the availability of work, and the benefits system. Another point that is always overlooked in this discussion is that leaving the EU doesn't mean that all seasonal workers will be prevented from coming to UK to pick fruit, which I think is the point Lord Rees-Mogg was making. He's also right that a proper debate is needed, rather than just shouting abuse at people.

@justjames1111

Жыл бұрын

Still waiting for the £350m a week to be spent on OUR NHS and the Sunny Uplands promised. Oh and this week Feb 2023, Ford announced 1300 job losses in UK, on top of Honda leaving, Nissan downgrading, Vauxhall downgrading and Toyota doing the same. Do you still feel 'positive' about this monumental National Self Harm and the real prospect under the tories of the NHS being privatised plus the Right to Protest and the Right to Strike being removed, thereby 'forcing' people to go to work whatever the pay and conditions on offer, or be sacked?

@johnhodson8674

Жыл бұрын

5 years later !! How did that go? Visas for work ! higher immigration? more paper work for any one travelling in a legal work! no change in laws ! no £350 million a month for the NHS ! higher prices for food! ! love your opinion?

Controlled immigration. Not none.

The reason most Brits wont do these jobs,is because the low wage that is offered and therefore cannot afford to live on it,where as a lot of these Eastern Europeans live ten to a room ,so pay isn't the issue for them .Also it is seasonal work,how can you bring a family up on part time employment? Pay Peanuts get Monky's

@billhicks8

6 жыл бұрын

YEAH! That's how those bloody immigrants live! Ten to a room! ya sees it on tha news! Tiresome generalisations.

@laurejon

5 жыл бұрын

@@billhicks8 They are not generalizations they are facts. If you look at property auctions you will find there are many garages for sale around the nation, and there are people buying them up by the bucket load. They buy them not to rent for the parking of cars, they rent them out for families to live in. Local Authorities turn a blind eye as it alleviates their responsibilities to house them, and the liberal left elite love it because they have an endless supply of cheap labour to pour their Latte on the way to work each day.

But who picked the fruit in the 70's and 80s? Those fruit farms were there then. It was local people who did it and they got paid a reasonable hourly rate. I bet those Romanians, Poles etc. are living in Portakabins on the farm. Because that is EXACTLY what happens here in Rothwell. And the farmer gets a chunk of his wages back in rent. So nobody living locally would get employed by the farmer, even if they were begging for the job!

The last 43 seconds of this video destroys all the arguments laid down in the first 8 minutes.

1:04 A picture of the 'Iron Lady' on his table ? ! LOL ! (does he pray to it for guidance)

Love it. Keep up with the good work

Iranıan man was hilarious

@MrDanielfff777

3 жыл бұрын

Word

There is no argument for increased unskilled migration to the UK when we currently have 1.5 million unemployed people. The argument that unemployed British people won’t do the work needs to be challenged with the question: ‘how do those unemployed people provide for themselves?’ If they are in receipt of state welfare - which most of them are - the state should have some say over the work they do. If a long term recipient of state welfare refuses to work, then remove their benefits.

@zuzanazuscinova5209

Жыл бұрын

That's too logical

Aren't these Eastern European workers seasonal workers already? How does JRM's answer address the concerns immigration based Leavers have? How is replacing one kind of immigrant on minimum wage with another going the change anything?

"business people will lose money not poor people like me" ahhah ye right it will be the big business men like Rees mogg who will profit from this as they won't be forced to pay tax on their off shore acounts by the EU

Brexit is the endeavour of the aging. Think they're also largely the demographic of the right nowadays. Interesting years ahead, I hope the young continue to make their voices heard and drive this back.

@jamescollins6085

Жыл бұрын

5 years later and I fear the damage is already done. I don't see a way the country can recover from the mess it is in now.

Can't clog the Mogg

@dantaylor7344

6 жыл бұрын

Only because it's against the law, otherwise............

@goOTBT

6 жыл бұрын

*and desperate. 'Moggmentum' is genius tho I have to admit xD

@jeremymerrifield7244

6 жыл бұрын

His answer to Immigrants from the EU is to get immigrant workers from outside the EU. That sounds bollix to me.

@Horus4075

6 жыл бұрын

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@markpaul120

5 жыл бұрын

Unless it's his hypocrisy concerning abortion. Against it but owns shares in a pharma company who provide meds for said procedure. Oh and taking his money out of the UK and moving his holdings company to Ireland. Courage of his conviction? Not really

All that interviewer was worried about was fruit not getting picked, his view on the UK being in the EU is so limited it`s beyond parody

@MrJason005

5 жыл бұрын

So what you did there is you simply said that his problem didn't matter. You didn't actually put up an argument as to why his argument has no grounds, you just said that it's not important enough.

@jameshogan6142

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrJason005 Perhaps the market was flooded with a surplus of fruit which drove down the price resulting in paying for the remainder of the harvest to be picked uneconomic?

Labour's policy regarding the minimum wage would wipe this industry out over night.

@MrDanielfff777

3 жыл бұрын

what was it

"Nice to of meet you" 😂

So please explain who picked fruit before 2004?

Purple shirt at 4.40 turned out to be massively wrong, didn't he.

@jonwelsh4354

2 жыл бұрын

If anyone sees him they should shout "What a funny little man at him"

I love these clips - the Guardian is so out of touch and the longer they keep bashing on the more doomed the Labour Party is

Wow this guy got completely wrecked my the Mogg on his question about Seasonal Agricultural workers in like 5 seconds haha. And why is that Romanian fruit picker so worried? Our Seasonal Agricultural Workers Scheme (SAWS) which gives out seasonal work visas to Eastern European people outside the EU predates 2014 when Romania joined the EU properly. Post-Brexit things will just go back to SAWS which will mean she won't lose her job at all. It might mean more paperwork for her but it will at least ensure she's working legally in a safe job.

@evanphillips2126

6 жыл бұрын

Ruairidh Grass So why was no one explaining that during the campaign then? People were so unclear on what they were voting for

@ruairidhgrass3479

6 жыл бұрын

Evan Phillips these things were talked about but they just didn't get as much airtime on the mainstream media as it's an issue most people don't care much about and it's pro-brexit. I learnt about SAWS recently on radio4 they had a debate about farmers losing staff etc , obviously things are very uncertain for them now but the reintroduction of SAWS seems like the most likely of solutions.

When I was just out of school we used to go potato picking £1.50 a box that 2 of us could turn up and sit to shelter if it rained .56p a pint then . We loved it .

I have to commend this video. I don't agree with the host's opinions, but it is very fair in it's portrayal of Jacob Rees-Mogg and local people.

If the farmer can't find people to pick his fruit then he must pay higher wages and the price in the shop will be higher and that's fine, perhaps we all have to buy fewer punnets of fruit. But somehow the Guardian won't make that point. The answer MUST be low paid wage slaves from other countries.

No more British fruit. Tragic irony.

i have seen a few of these, they normally say there's no work

Tears of brexiteers on this comment section is a gold.

Videos like these are proof-positive that Leave voters never deserved a vote in the first place. You don't give people more than they can handle. Notice how all the Leave voters sounded borderline illiterate...? xD

@jameshogan6142

2 жыл бұрын

Yes but when Jacob Rees Mogg and his ilk are governing the country we hear protests that there are too many Eton educated Posh boys in the cabinet.

This reporter is very condescending. Rees-Mogg comes off as the better man in the video, which was clearly not the reporter's intention!

What do you expect from the Guardian a few interviews about picking fruit stopped buying it years ago.

Its not a matter of getting back control of anything political, its a matter of getting back control of the politicians themselves. The bad policies forced on us now cannot be corrected by the electorate, back under our accountability we take control of them and force them to change policy for our benefit instead of for the eu`s benefit.

Where is the rotting fruit then ? Total lies !!

I'll pick the fruit!

At least the Tories won. The analogy doesn't work.

@Badhat66

4 жыл бұрын

David Matley And has we know the Conservative under Boris leadership won again on Dec12/12/19 with a landslide So the writing been on the wall for labour for years but labour and Corbyn have only been interested and listening to those in londons which are from the middle classes

Thank goodness we are now out!

@anophelesnow3957

2 жыл бұрын

No fruit pickers, bad harvest, less food. This is brexit.

@dicklebilly3115

2 жыл бұрын

Going so well eh ! 😂😂😂

if there is a job for temporary worker then the door will be open for them, i do feel tho that these unskilled jobs can be done by using the local unemployed first then if there are vacancies bring in migrates, if the bone idle refuse then cut their benefits..

Our Pound? What about your Euro! xD

@michaelnolan6796

3 жыл бұрын

agreed.

Love the Iranian guy.

Firstly, start by saying, we're leaving. There's no question on that. For the thick amongst you listen at 3:28 to what the man says. The simple economics of this is that the man may well go out of business (so won't be contributing the same level of taxes to the Treasury) and neither will his staff (who are not sending all their wages home and will have to get tax deducted at source once they earn enough which will also go straight to the Treasury). So, he will find some other way to make money, his foreign staff will not pay taxes because there will be no job. There will be no fruit picking job for Brit students (as someone in these comments mentioned would be the alternative to foreign pickers) and our supermarkets, whose main goal must be profit, will source the fruit from another country (Spain for talking's sake - where the Romanian pickers can go and pick as part of the EU). We, the British consumer, may or may not pay more for the fruit in the shops. None of us know...yet. The tax contribution to UK Govt. however, from just that one business is going to be wiped out however, if the above scenario unfolds.

We don't blame these foreign people,we blame the people who allowed mass immigration which, in turn, lowered wages.

@randymarsh3432

5 жыл бұрын

poland: no imagrents and high wages.

@ski-bapbi-dap957

5 жыл бұрын

Germany, lots of immigrants and higher wages@@randymarsh3432

REES MOGG CLEAR AND CONCISE

This Rees-Mogg guy seems like the most arrogant person I've ever seen

So you cut back on the amount of food you produce.

To many foreigners like you?

Excellent.

Welcome to Gillingham! (It's not that bad)

No one denies we need migrants to do this work. We simply want to be able to select who comes into our country. At the moment we cannot.

@vibraphonics

6 жыл бұрын

Elaine Kingston That may be what you want. It seems a lot of people in this video just want the immigrants out (easy peasy). Turns out a simple Leave/Remain vote doesn't quite cover all bases.

Only series of the guardian I like

"who would pick the fruit?"

Excellent

Bang on mate, keep doing your thing

If there is people that don't want to work, look at restricting benefits more, make people have respect for themselfs with a work ethic, many can't even comprehend a days work,

Pay a decent wage and pay decent price for the fruit

Sorry, but you've just demonstrated why "Leave" is, at least, a reasonable argument and also, why Jacob Rees-Mogg is so popular with ordinary people. That wasn't your intention, was it?

@husbandryenvy433

4 жыл бұрын

MGBetts1 That’s why the conservatives hid him for the entirety of the election campaign. He’s toxic. A genuinely horrible human being.

@MGBetts1

4 жыл бұрын

@@husbandryenvy433 - You make Labour sound so attractive to voters when you talk like that.

@husbandryenvy433

4 жыл бұрын

MGBetts1 Eh? It’s true though, They kept the odious little twerp out of sight because people find him so repellant and they didn’t want him to taint their campaign. I’m not a Labour voter.

@MGBetts1

4 жыл бұрын

@@husbandryenvy433 - you want me to support your party (whatever it is) but you're not selling it very well. You're entitled to your opinion, but most wouldn't agree.

@husbandryenvy433

4 жыл бұрын

MGBetts1 I’m not trying to sell you anything. I am not a labour voter. My point was about Mogg and what a cretin he is. He certainly isn’t popular with the ‘ordinary people’ as you put it.

This woman voted to remain..... picks on very middle class former librarian with a pushbike covered in flowers.

That bloke in the purple polo shirt was Paul Whitehouse.

After next March 2019, The government need to gracefully change its leadership, I hope this gentleman stands up and does what the people would dearly like him to do, run as leader After which they call a general election so they can endorse him as PM.

i wanted to see some exchange of views.... but alas the Guardian chap was so biased he made JRM look the most thoughtful on the vid.... so major own goal

The guy from Iran couldn't be more honest than that: businesses going to be screwed and immigrants coming in from all countries EXCEPT the EU.

Sneering Guardian journalist takes his 'I know better than you' attitude to Gillingham in Kent and yet complains "In some cases, to find oneself at the receiving end of derision and hostility"

Why doesn't the over paid Guardian journalists leave their work to work for minimum wage? The workers from overseas are a great cost to the NHS, housing, etc.

Would this Guardian opinion piece be shown if the category of people who are dismissed as inarticulate idiots were black or female? No. But their being Leave voters somehow makes it legitimate. The basis of the argument is, once again, that raspberries will not be picked by British workers for the wages on offer. The response that the wages will have to increase is waved aside as absurd, because prices would have to rise. Because of course it is unthinkable to the raspberry-buying Guardian classes that they should indeed pay more to the people who pick their fruit, and that their refusal to might be a part of the grudge against them held by the yobs and yokels whose labour is worth as little as their opinions and experience.

aha, I love peoples responses to something that slightly unearths issues, or when facts go against someone's personal feelings

Is this meant to be journalism?

Great work, brilliant film. Thanks !

plus where are those wages going??? Romania!!!

Brexit is not about Britain. It's about whats best for Mogg and Boris.

Isn't this supposed to be a news source. That means being unbiased.

Lol, he was not expecting that from the Iranian

Literally everyone at that meet was over 60!

@lepetitchat123

Жыл бұрын

I will never give a seat to old people again😂

Leavers are so polite and reasonable. So glad we're putting our faith them.

Let the Labour Party pick the fruit. They have got the brains to do much else 🤪

@anophelesnow3957

2 жыл бұрын

No fruit pickers, bad harvest, less food. This is brexit.

The absolute arrogance of the interviewer.

@tomormiston6592

6 жыл бұрын

he asked straight questions and got some silly answers... that's all

We can all put a slant on whatever view we have, the Guardian knows that only too well. Mr Junker for our next President, sorry I meant King

This "journalist" is out of his depth. Mogg battered him.

Mogg : the most putrid of rotten berries.

This guy is the Alan Partridge of the remainers

The citizens of Gillingham High street offering their views.

The argument seems to be between "My fruit will be more expensive!" and "The representatives elected by the British people shouldn't be ordered around by people the British didn't vote for." This video is a bit of a slanted, trite sort of production piece for the Remain camp, which has some real arguments for their position, but this style of smug, emotional trolling isn't doing Britain any good at all.

@anophelesnow3957

2 жыл бұрын

No fruit pickers, bad harvest, less food. This is brexit.

The fruit pickers and others can come back on work permits. If we want to employ British workers, then we should refuse them benefits if they refuse to work. Simple. No work - No money. My sister in Kent used to pick apples and plums during the harvest time when we had orchards. Now they are gone due to imports. Every country should be able to feed itself.

@anophelesnow3957

2 жыл бұрын

No fruit pickers, bad harvest, less food. This is brexit.

Fruit picking sounds like a great first job for the youth of our country! What do you mean nobody will do It for us?

Funniest part of the video 5:20

You cannot stop Moggumentum

@GodofKillers121

6 жыл бұрын

stefanos2691 And you are?

@nmarks

6 жыл бұрын

Try Imodium.

@zaclewis9466

6 жыл бұрын

lol

@dantaylor7344

6 жыл бұрын

That's because you can't stop something that hasn't begun

Serious question; what kind of education system produces people with these views? U.K. comes across as being about a century behind in attitudes and basic economic and political knowledge. It’s actually disturbing.