A brilliant, genuine, and charismatic personality.

Americans live in a bubble. This man is very thoughtful. Never heard of him. Wow. Thanks. On so many levels, listening to this conversation was time well spent.

@greghill7759

10 ай бұрын

If you haven't already read it, I can recommend his book "The Places In Between." It is the account of an extraordinary and arduous journey that required both physical and intellectual strength, but told with remarkable humility.

@pjkslc

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the recommendation. I’m an American who lived between the US Capitol and the White House during the Trump insurrection …so when I heard Rory speak, I was impressed by the thoughtfulness and nuance in his insights which doesn’t usually exist in politicians.

@bisratezra8247

8 ай бұрын

​@@pjkslcThe difference between two politicians could hardly be greater than that between Rory and Trump.

@pjkslc

8 ай бұрын

@@bisratezra8247 so true

Mr Stewart is a remarkable man. His departure from the Conservative government was a good indication of his moral character. He is probably the most inspiring and truthful British MP of the last 75 years, and the only Conservative MP I would ever have voted for.

@Wob-rt1sc

8 ай бұрын

Same here

❤ I love this kind of "Rory" personality

@SacraTessan

9 ай бұрын

I tried to participate in the visionary event today 22 aug but the links didn’t work or Sorry I missed it

Rory, on the strength of this conversation, seems to be as good as one can expect of a politician wrt intellect, ethics and compassion. Given also that on the basis of this conversation it seems highly unlikely that we can collectively plot a way forward maybe we should be having a very different conversation. Most fascinating for me was his belief in the spiritual importance of the silent retreat.. are we not missing something here?

Rory as usual was totally engaging, despite the guy with the mic constantly interrupting.

Thanks for sharing the interview Jonathon. I guess Rory is prime 'Centrist Dad' material albeit slightly to the right. I too, being nearly 50 and a dad with two kids have dabbled in centrist dad pragmatics, yet I'm left with an uneasy feeling that with this status quo/slow implementary steps approach of Rorys we are still living and acting out of a western enlightenment individualistic paradigm. I guess I'm left with a similar question that I think you were trying to get at in terms of the potential for orienting and imagining a different politics that could hold the complexities and nuance of the moment. I'm intrigued and surprised with Rory being inspired by Iain McGilchrists work and in turn by Iain himself, if he was in agreement with Rory most of the time here. The philosophy of A.N. Whitehead is so prominent in Iains books as a process relational paradigm. I can't see how a conservative politics of slow incremental change and value of tradition equates with a philosophy and paradigm of entanglement and ongoing relational process?? There is also the concreteness (which Rory spoke of) by which Whitehead lays out his position, he even names concresence as the act of becoming built on the back of previous experience. Is this philosophy just too difficult to put into practice politically and a more pragmatic politics has to suffice, or is Rory and most centrist politicians too afraid to tackle the necessary difficulty of engaging with such awkward material and finding ways of how it might work as 'actual occasions' in daily political life. And was this what you were trying to get him to admit/reflect on in his reservations about Raworths Doughnut economics and in his safe 'old politics' chats with Alistair Campbell.

I have nothing but respect and admiration for Rory, although I am not a conservative. I also have a similar spiritual orientation like Rory. I would love Rory and Alastair to interview a Modern Monetary Theory economist like Phil Armstrong or Bill Mitchell. Both Alistair and Rory might gain a different perspective on the economic consequences of Brexit. As with regards to having reached the environmental boundaries on this planet is the need to reflect carefully on a new political narrative for prosperity instead of the conventional economic growth story that will lead to disaster. Talks with with Peter Victor or another ecological economist would be useful here.

Great interview that left me wondering if at the bottom of a deeply inhaled breathe, it is possible to discover the being in time "desire for parousia," not as the ground-of-being, but the great chain of being that flows within the Light & Dark Matter Energy composition of the Cosmos? And in walking to experience 40 day/night cycles of time, is it possible to understand the Cathartic purpose of Mary & Jesus Apocalypse of Light Drama, about the tragedy of the human condition? Right here upon the Cross of Space-Time, as the paradoxically Circular, Spiral Dynamics of our Solar System? I wonder if Rory experienced those moments of stillness & silent anticipation of the return of the father signified by the first crack of light in the sky & the gentle bird song that heralds the local rooster's dawning of the light, performance? And in trying to comprehend why Mary & Jesus cathartic play about enlightenment is ruined by a rhetoric as reality politics of experience, as the Wee Scotsman R. D. Laing pondered. I offer this excerpt from a recent book, for contemplating the possibility of ditching the historical baggage of the word God, by replacing it with Creation: "A Phenomenology of Darkness Darkness is a withdrawal from the light of the world: on that Platonism and Christianity can agree. But far from such a withdrawal being understood in purely negative terms, it forms the core of the Christian understanding of truth, truth namely as revealed. Revelation is that appearance that exceeds the human capacity to receive it. It is in this sense a radical darkness, the showing of darkness as darkness. The figure of Christ does not indicate a way to understand the light of the world, but rather shows the exhaustion of the world and of worldly desire in that which lies beyond and before such a light. The Cathedral is not a cave in Plato's sense. There blindness is a temporary failure of sight, due not to any lack of facility in the perceiver, but rather to his lack of habituation to sunlight. The darkness experienced has only a negative value: it gives the prisoner a point of comparison and hence a sense of the degrees of sight and knowledge. When, on the other hand, mystical theologians such as Pseudo-Dionysius and John of the Cross speak of darkness-that darkness made manifest in the Gothic Cathedral-they understand it as a positive phenomenon. This is distinctive of Christian phenomenology: understanding darkness as a phenomenon, not simply as the absence of phenomena. The Cathedral is a place of liturgy, or rather the Cathedral is due to liturgy. Liturgy is not sacrifice; it rather expresses that in sacrifice which sacrifice itself cannot express: the limits of all worldly economy. As such liturgy expresses the sense of a limit of worldly action in its very performance. This paradoxical nature of liturgy is expressed by Lacoste as “the expectation or desire for parousia in the certitude of the non-parousial presence of God.”" Ó Murchadha, Felix. A Phenomenology of Christian Life: Glory and Night (Philosophy of Religion) (p. 88). Indiana University Press. Kindle Edition. Please keep up the good works.

A very interesting interview and interview. A very rewarding listening experience marred by the poor use of voice and microphone of the interviewer.

When you see that every year earth overshoot day (the day that we have consumed earth's natural resources) is earlier ech seach (this year in may I think) then I think you can safely say we have reaches the carrying capacity!

@jessicaschimmel7398

9 ай бұрын

each year of course

Audio is terrible on this pod-the hosts, not Rorys.

Really didn't appreciate the trap that Jonathan sprung on Rory. Degrowth is an important question, but he should have been clear about wanting to challenge Rory's position, rather than playing unrelated clips from TRIP as a set up to then playing the supposedly contradictory clips from Rory. That was a cheap shot and I feel it disrespected the format and the audience at the event.

@peterweston1356

10 ай бұрын

I think folks on the left seems unable help themselves. The more intellectual and educated the right wing interviewee is, the more the left wing interviewer wishes to point score. What Rory displayed was the kindness and confidence not to respond in kind. The more that right of centre intellectuals step up and demonstrate mature behaviour (for example problem stating is easier than solution formation in CAS like systems) the more exposed those on the left don’t really have anything other than ideology.

@mahatmamartinus

10 ай бұрын

Absolutely agree!

RORY - THE PRATT !!