I absolutely love this. A true cowboy/horseman explaining how it's really done. Pay attention, this kind of knowledge isn't easy to come by.

Please don't stop these videos! I know I can't be alone, but I have been listening to a horse teach me this stuff for so long because we don't have any true vaqueros out my way. Humans are much easier to understand! Though I will say that mare has taught me a lot! I've dreamed of being a true cowboy since I was a little girl and these videos are so helpful!! Thanks!

@KKIcons

4 жыл бұрын

I am glad I am not alone thinking this kind of riding and roping is worth watching a whole documentary on it like they did with Buck. It is so inspiring, I am going to get out there and train every day.

First off, love the hummingbird feeder. Second, but first in importance is: wow. Intelligent horse in the hands of a master horseman. So very interesting and inspiring. Just great stuff. Thank you.

Pat and Deb, I know this is an older video but I refer to it often. I continue to learn and practice what you’ve taught me. I hope you continue to mend and I look forward to seeing you both again soon.

A balanced horse is a beautiful thing. Thank you.

Just plain great Pat and Deb. You are working towards leaving a mighty fine legacy.

Don't even know how to put a saddle on a horse but sit here & watched this video! Either you are a good teacher & I love wisdom or I need a Bobbie!

@PatnDebPuckett

5 жыл бұрын

Caroll Nickles That’s hilarious! What’s a Bobbie??

Deb, I go back on a regular basis to watch Pat's videos you made. There is a wealth of information in there and every time I watch 'em I pick up something new that I seem to have missed when I watched it before. I often hear Pat refer to the diffenrence between the horse show world and the ranch world. Allthough he makes valid points, and there sure is a difference, I feel there are probably way more similarities than differences, especially when we look at the cow horse and ranch horse disciplines, which obviously grew out of ranch life and ranch work. I personally feel that when one trains the horse to perform a job to the best of the horse's ability such as what Pat does, the horse gets more broke, learns to carry himself better, and gets mentally and physicly into a better, more businesslike frame of mind, as opposed to some show horses I see that are basicly circus ponys, that excel in doing there tricks and moves, but can't do anything else and get lost or panic when doing actually something else. (it took me 30+ years of training horses to figure that one out, but I finally did). With being able now to give a horse various jobs on the cattle ranch, and studying Pat's and others' methods, techniques and philosophies on training horses, my horses now are doing the show tricks and moves better, with less animosity or dislike for it because it is no longer mindless drilling. I can now in other words ride a lot and train a little. Again, thank you for making these videos, thanks Pat for so willingly sharing your knowledge in your straight-forward no-nonsense way. Your efforts are highly appreciated across the globe.

@PatnDebPuckett

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you. We really appreciate you sharing your thoughts on this subject. Pat worked on a ranch where the owners were on the horse show circuit, English and western and team roping. His tack room was in the indoor barn where they would team rope. Every now and again, when Pat would come in from checking cattle, the owners would ask him to join them. Pat would back in the box and rope a few steers on his ranch horses. Those horses were absolutely fine with that situation and on a purely amateur level, sometimes Pat would take their money at a competition. The reason he was able to do this was because his horses weren’t bothered and hadn’t been ruined with the endless ram and jab that many team ropers do. Anyway, the point to this rambling comment is to say that, yes, it is possible to go to a competition and do well AND maintain a sane and happy horse. We’re so happy that some of the things that Pat is showing on this videos is helping you to do that.

Thank you for reminding me it takes time , to get it right .

Found your videos a couple of weeks ago. I really enjoy the knowledge you are so willing to share on horsemanship. I also enjoy when you take a moment and talk about history of ranching, cowboys and the bridle horse. Hope you and your bride keep doing these and best wishes.

There's so much knowledge in every every Pat's video I couldn't find anywere else. Thank you very much for sharing. Keep up the good work!!!

Thank you for the great explanation on the basics of romal reins. I'm so glad there are folks keeping this tradition alive.

Pat I want to thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. I'm mounted police officer from East London, South Africa and I'm learning much from a true horseman like yourself.

@PatnDebPuckett

4 жыл бұрын

We are honored to be of help...

You guys are awesome, thank you for helping to educate us young ones on this lost art

Excellent presentation, plainly spoken!! Thank you

I like practical too. Thank you for your great explanations.

These vidios are a reference book. Great to revist.

Awesome. Clear, down-to-earth and real.

Great job, Pat. Nice to see you friend, and hear you Deb.

Love your videos. Pretty cool to hear real info, from a real hand. Nice change up from the west coast "clinicians." Greetings from an Oklahoma cowpuncher, and thanks for sharing a bit of knowledge from the old breed. Love seeing the other style.

Thank you, sir, for this really great video. I just started my horse (not the one pictured here) in the two-rein and we have a very long way to go before we even approach what you've got going with yours. But this was very clear and very helpful. My romals are a bit on the short side and I wasn't sure about it, but see the value in having it that way. I also see the way my horse needs to move off my body. We are working on it!! Thanks again so much.

Mr.Puckett, al your horses are so well in their body and head ! Now I really have a great envy to learn western riding. Thank you for sharing your experience.

Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge and wisdom. Although Scottish, I have been a fan of bridle horses and their training for decades. Don Dodge, Ray Hunt, Dorrance bros etc.. anyone who can tell us more is worth their weight in gold. All the best, Rachel.

So much wisdom in this man.

Pat I am learning so much from2 your videos. Thank God for you and your teaching knowledge . I have bern practicing back up . And stopping. Took a little ride the other daygoing past a home that has a lot of dogs . My horse never got nervous or feeling spooky .

Dude knows his STUFF !

Thank you both for sharing all the knowledge !! Always a pleasure to watch, keep goin` and take care ! Best regards from the Clearwater Buckaroos in Germany !

Thanks for filling some cracks!, i was taught by a south texas cowboy, that then went east for awhile, & came back west, he made what he called a high school horse, (he never refured to his horses as bridle horses), he also only used split rein, even with a spade, soo im trying to learn the romel!, it takes some work!

Listening to Pat,is like havin my old Grandad back and talking to us..Grandad was an old Miller n Lux hand when younger and grew up on the Tejon..Later i had Mike Bridges,as a inlaw and heard much the same from him as well..Glad to see the Brush hands talkin about it too.Lookin foreward to meetin up,in July..

@TightwadTodd

5 жыл бұрын

Oh,,And it aint just the women...I have little grabbers myself and a lot of coils and the reins,fills my hand too much and it gets tired..I went to smaller reins,but i like the rein concho idea better...Maybe thats why my Grandmother used it..

I'm always excited to see the next video both of you have to share with us! Thank you. I am fascinated by the making of Bridle Horse. I was curious whether you shave the lower portion of your horses' manes to indicate what level of education they are at - I have heard of some Buckaroos who do that..

Without the house present, it was very clear. Thanks for the video.

Fantastic video! Thanks.

Great video! Thank you!!!

Thank you both for this video! It makes so much sense to use this Coastal version of romal reins.

Keep the info coming!

Great info Pat! Been SO interested in the romal reins, and their exact tradition, etc. Can you please do more info videos on the romal reins, I would like to get a pair! Thx!!

To be able to see what you are talking about - is so valuable - puts it in better context:)

I don’t know where you are in the US, but that view is BREATHTAKING!! I’m in NJ where everyone lives on top of each other and everything is flat. I’d love to move west and find a trail horse!

A real artist.

Beautiful horse!

Hey Pat, saw that Ray Ordway passed a few years ago. With the passing of such a great wealth of old cowboy knowledge, could you enlighten us all on why these are called coastal reins in one of your coming videos? Greetings from SE Colorado and thanks for sharing so many insights of the old way.

Real horsemen like this one are SO incredibly hard to find. I had one once. Would love to find another.

Pat & Deb, received my coastal reins today, WOW!!! I'm guessing I got a set of the "murder" reins, The craftmanship is excellent!!! I appreciate your video's & gear that you offer. Thanks for all you do. Bill

@PatnDebPuckett

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you like them! They are actually made by an old man in Tecate. His sons don’t want to be braiders so he will be the last in his family to make this kind of gear. To my knowledge, he hasn’t killed anybody 😆

I have found my horses respond very well with simple halters (leather or soft rope) and double reins. No bits, bosals, hackamores or shanks are needed and they happily ground tie (and graze) when the reins are on the ground. Lessons learned from the Lakota Sioux. Actually, I have had roping, cutting and pick-up horses respond well with no headgear at all. Not all do, (especially with prior handlers in the mix) horses respond to what their handlers teach them. Teach them well.

@PatnDebPuckett

5 жыл бұрын

Dusty Reins Stories thank you for the input. Everyone gets to decide what works for them. I will ask if you’re able to achieve collection and self carriage with the halter you describe?

@DustyReinsStories

5 жыл бұрын

@@PatnDebPuckett Terms used in conjunction with requiring a horse to move in unnatural ways such as dressage. How many horses can put up with that all day long? Certainly not required for ranch work, trail riding, hunting nor wanted behavior from performance horses competing in mounted shooting, roping, barrel racing, ranch reining cutting, penning and sorting and so on. Dressage creates barn witches. Haha!! I just don't care for mechanical devices which force horses into submission including spurs, whips, and harnesses as well as the devices mentioned above.

@PatnDebPuckett

5 жыл бұрын

Dusty Reins Stories Collection is required in order to shift the horse’s weight to the hind quarters and enable him to carry his rider efficiently and it also enables him to tune in to the cues from the rider’s body. We don’t ask for collection all day but we do ask for collection when we need athleticism. So, it certainly is required for ranch work and the litany of other activities you mentioned. Self carriage means the horse is able to maintain the required level of collection with a float in the rein. The fact that you disparage dressage based on your lack of experience and understanding is a shame for you and your horses. The definition of dressage is the art of riding and training a horse in a manner that develops flexibility and balance. There are good and bad riders of all disciplines. You might try opening your mind to new knowledge and understanding. By your comments, I believe you are kidding yourself. But thank you for sharing your views...

@debbiebird5097

5 жыл бұрын

Dusty Reins - You say that collection isn’t necessary for a cutting horse - the ability to ask the horse to shift its weight onto its hindquarters, which some people call collection, is absolutely required for a cutting horse. Without the ability to rock back and swing its front quarters around to turn, the horse would never be able to keep up with the cow. Just saying.

@DustyReinsStories

5 жыл бұрын

@@debbiebird5097 I made no such statement. Horses are eager learners if you help them to understand what their objective is. In the case of cutting horses, one uses their innate understanding of heard status to prevent cattle from returning to their own herd. Handlers only need to help them determine which one to single out from the herd. The use of reins is not allowed in cutting competition and I say no head control is even needed for sorting out from the herd. The handler's leg pressure and hand pressure on the nape of the neck or mane work just fine while sorting. The horses will discover how to find their own legs and feet to keep the bovine from returning to the herd naturally. They understand the objective and love the challenge of being the dominate one. Being asked to change a lead on demand or keep their neck bowed and head tucked in is an arbitrary human objective a horse does not easily understand. Thus they are forced to submit to pressure from mechanical devices to conform to the handler's demands for unnatural posture and behavior. Humans make horses do a lot of silly things purely for human pleasure. Take for instance ranch reining where the mounts are required to spin in situ three and a half times to the right and again to the left. If you want to show you are a true equestrian, try bow hunting coyotes on the run from horseback on rough brushy territory. After you make a kill. Can you trust your horse to stay put until you return with the hide? Yes, horses have the ability to collect themselves when there is a clear natural objective they understand. No special gear needed.

I appreciate this video. You do a good job of explaining things. Could you make a video demonstrating the leg cues you use on a finished bridle horse? Thanks

@PatnDebPuckett

5 жыл бұрын

We’ll put that on our list. Thank you for watching!

really like that headstall

I didn't know a thing about horses but I thought this video was cool. Look how beautiful it is out there.

great video

Thank you.

good explanation

@justinglavin6765

4 жыл бұрын

How much do you charge for one of yor bits? How would I get one?

Thanks for sharing. How long do you have connector hobble between the rein and romal part?

Dave and Gwynn Weaver do make nice horses! Great people to learn from as well. Great videos Pat!

"I tend to do things that make sense."-- my new mantra

I’m a history fan, I’d like to know more about the palm concho. Claude Nadeau from Quebec

Did you make the noseband and the piece connected to headstall . I am looking for that piece. Father cartwright of bonanza horse had the same piece with the conchos

I don't go to any form of bit. Certainly no spade bit. I am able to do all I need to do in a rope halter and lead line converted to reins. There are several ranches that the cowboys use no head gear whatsoever. It is all body. The horses know their job very well. I have not graduated to that level of horsemanship yet.

@plantsbatsandcats

4 жыл бұрын

Gerry Coleman I love seeing when people are able to do that. Definitely something I’ll be trying to achieve from my whole life.

That bridle is freakin' beautiful

I love the cricket...

Most of the time you see Romals used in the show pen because the novice rider struggles to communicate to their horse correctly with a split rein, so their coach or professional will use Romals to help the rider. When it comes to Professionals in the show pen, they will use Romals with some horses that tend to be a bit wiggly, or tends to bounce back and forth between the reins, & helps the horse to straighten & wiggle less. I really like your content, & enjoy learning from your point of view. Thanks

@PatnDebPuckett

5 жыл бұрын

M&L Performance Horses Matt Wagoner That’s an interesting window into the show world. Our horses don’t respond to the touch of the rein on their necks in the way you describe. We communicate direction with our seat and legs. Pretty much the only thing that our reins do is to tell the horse to gather himself up into collection and tune in to his rider’s body.

This is all good stuff. On a different video I asked you about the length of coastal reins and you responded 26-30" (same as you explain in this video). It looks like you have 11-12" of rein chain. I have two sets of romal reins ( 41 and 42"). Guess I could shorten to 8" of chain but am still way too long on the reins. I could sell it all and start over :0) I also think I see light weight latigo connectors that are designed to break between your romal reins and the rein chains. Not sure I will ever get set up right but am trying and I appreciate your help.

@PatnDebPuckett

4 жыл бұрын

You are correct in everything you said. Romal reins got really long because the performance world doesn’t use chains and they don’t typically ride in collection.

I love the work you’re doing here. Though, I don’t believe bending at the poll is needed necessarily to get the kind of collection a lot of people are looking for. I’ve seen loads of cow ponies heads almost touching the ground while having their weight back on their haunches. They look great and the head down posture creates a more relaxed being for the horses.

@PatnDebPuckett

4 жыл бұрын

We’re going to have to agree to disagree on this one. First, many modern quarter horses are now almost a full hand shorter in front than behind which makes it nearly impossible for them to have any kind of longevity with regard to staying sound. Navicular is rampant as a result. Second, a horse raises and lowers his head in order to focus on far or near objects. That is how their vision works. And third, if you just think of physics, a horse cannot put his head lower than his withers without displacing his weight onto the forehand. And I’ll add a fourth point for free...in order for a horse to be a good ranch horse, you have to be able to rope off of him. If his head is low and he’s built downhill, you’ve just made his job twice as hard. There’s actually a book devoted to the subject of rolkur and how incorrect riding has a negative effect on a horse’s body. It’s called “Tug of War”. While this book is written about modern dressage horses, the same kind of riding can be seen in the performance horse world.

@jeanfish7

4 жыл бұрын

@@PatnDebPuckett SO AGREE!!! Our old cow horse had a pretty neutral head position, even if fitted with a Spade. Don't like the " constipated" look of the " modern" Pleasure and working horses. Yuck.

@plantsbatsandcats

4 жыл бұрын

Deb Puckett Deb Puckett Deb Puckett I definitely agree on Quarter Horses, lots of breeders don’t breed enough for soundness, especially their hooves, in a lot of breeds. You end up with a lot of feet hitting each other while the horse is moving, or creating problems later in life that make you retire them before their time. As for the sight, most horse when they want to see the depth of something they lower their head, not raise it higher. Having that effect, having a Horses head free to do so creates what you want. A horse that is inquisitive rather than frightened and unwilling to approach. As for physics think more like cat and cow position in yoga. A head held high creates more weight on the forehand and a dipped back. When you raise the spine, and pull in the weight to the hindquarters the head automatically drops. Pulling the head up and tight makes it hard to get good and CORRECT collection. (That round supported back and ribs) Yes as you get the collection the head can come up but when you have it tight and break at the poll too much you start loosing it. Lots of people that think they have collection don’t. Obviously you do have collection because you have a massive amount of hours riding, training, and work done in with that horse and just in general. Too much breakage at the poll, studies show, actually create nerve and muscle damage over time. Weakening that area and creating pain from bone pressure. I see a lot of riders who use way too much and abuse it way too often for me, personally, to be okay with it when I can get a full collection differently. As for roping, I haven’t done it off the back of a horse so, I don’t know shit.

@plantsbatsandcats

4 жыл бұрын

Deb Puckett Deb Puckett I’d love to discuss more if you have free time, and more to share. I’m young, I’m learning, and I love a good exchange of ideas. Honestly I love the idea of Romal reins, you really do stay out of you’re horse’s way. You’re not pulling on it’s face, barely using any contact with the mouth and using all body.

Man,my grandma was Melissa Marie Puckett,and married a ray Pine.yea we might be kin.

Damn nice horse btw.

The MOST VALUABLE knowledge I've ever come by. I'd give anything to ride on his ranch for a week. They seem like great people and a dying breed.

Could you please tell me what kind of bit you are using? Sounds like some sort of roller is part of the mouthpiece. Also, where can I get that type of mouthpiece? Thank you.

@PatnDebPuckett

4 жыл бұрын

It’s a spade bit. You can buy them from a number of sources but there is a years long process before you put it in your horse’s mouth.

Hi Pat great videos thanks. I do some rawhide work and usually make my reins 42” before chains.How long are your coastal reins ? Thank you Sir

@PatnDebPuckett

3 жыл бұрын

Depending on the horse they are made for, they average between 28 and 30 inches long with the rare horse needing a 32 inch set.

@johnvanriper3363

3 жыл бұрын

Pat & Deb Puckett thanks

Great video. Where do you find the coastal style Romal reins?

@PatnDebPuckett

5 жыл бұрын

We have them made by a braider in Mexico. You can order them on our website... www.thedisciplinedride.com/store.html

@scottw9663

5 жыл бұрын

Deb Puckett Thank You

A Gentleman and Learned Cowboy

Romal Reins are the subject; bridle horses are beautiful creatures

Could listen to him all day... And i ride h/j

I am so glad I didn't walk into the local saddle shop and say, "do y'all got any ROME-ls?" (I am still a ways from needing any romals yet)

I dont believe i Know Ray,,So if you could be so kind as to relay to us Ray's philosophy on the "Coastal Reins",,i know i would appreciate and be interested in hearing it......

i am rehabilitating a ranch horse that was tied to a trailer when the park brake failed and got dragged behind it through a cattle guard - because of this he strongly dislikes bits. he is sensitive and well trained, for the sake of rehabilitation i will train him to take a bit but he doesnt need one. what is your opinion on using a sidepull bridle with romal reins? i have a bosal with mecate at the moment but the lead rope on the mecate feels messy while neck reining

@PatnDebPuckett

2 жыл бұрын

A side pull is a direct pull device that is not intended to be ridden with one hand, much less with romal reins. It has zero pre-signal. If I’m understanding the wreck this horse went through, he was tied by his bridle which injured his mouth? A horse that was injured like this could probably be ridden in a mechanical hackamore if done correctly.

Where can I purchase the bit with a roller that makes the "cricket" noise? I've asked several dealers at shows and got lectures and hard opinions, which forced me to walk away. (I'm a petite woman and apparently that makes me a target for all kinds of nonsense.) My horse is mouthy, and when he's anxious it's worse. I'd like to see if that would help pacify him. thank you

@PatnDebPuckett

4 жыл бұрын

I’m a not so petite woman who has a been told that I’m too opinionated and intimidating 😆 So I understand how people can be disrespected based on appearance. Anyway, we buy western bits that either have a roller that doesn’t make the nice sound of a cricket or don’t have anything in the port of the mouthpiece. We have a machinist that we use. We buy crickets from Jeremiah Watt products and have the machinist put them in the bits. The trick is to use a square or hexagonal stock that the cricket spins on to make that pretty sound...Let me know if this is process is clear to you. It’s getting harder and harder to find a good bit these days.

@Wildhareequinecenter

4 жыл бұрын

@@PatnDebPuckett I wish I knew a machinist that would do such a thing. I live in the heart of Amish country here in PA, so maybe I can try to explain...but I'm afraid the Amish don't like dealing with women so much. Any chance you can provide a video explaining what you just told me? At least then I would have a visual. You guys are a welcome relief from the 'normal' nonsense. ;) Thanks for the channel.

Where do you get a bridle like that? is that custom made?

@PatnDebPuckett

3 жыл бұрын

I suppose it is custom made in that we made it ourselves. Glad you like it!

Sir, the last few years I've worked as a packer, feedlot cowboy amd currently I'm a Grand Canyon Wrangler. I've had an interest in Romal Reins for sometime amd I already use rope split reins in somewhat the same manner. Needless to say I hardly ever ride the same animal any given day. Especially with the 150 or so mules we have here. Do you have a recommendation on romel rein lengths to generally work for as many equines as possible Well

@PatnDebPuckett

2 жыл бұрын

The most common length we use are 28 inches long with full chains. That said, you have to decide what you do the most of. For example, our short coastal reins are set up for riding in collection and roping on some fairly upright horses. If the majority of your ride is just going down the trail on a loose rein and you ride horses and mules that carry themselves flatter than our horses, you might want to ride a longer rein. The best thing for you to do is to measure from the bit ring to the saddle horn on a few of your horses and mules and get an average length. Then subtract 12 inches for chains.

Where did you get your romals at? Or did you braid them

@PatnDebPuckett

3 жыл бұрын

We have a man who makes a them for us from Tecate. Go to www.TheDisciplinedRide.com/store for more info.

Just a simple question. What is the gear sound in the background? Maybe your sound crew.

@PatnDebPuckett

2 ай бұрын

It’s the cricket in the spade bit.

@BRADFORDKO

2 ай бұрын

@PatnDebPuckett oh my, thank you. Sounds like it's entertaining to them

Where did you get your head stall from?

@PatnDebPuckett

3 жыл бұрын

It has been put together over years of finding odds and ends that suited this particular horse.

Where would you find Coastal or Kostal reins?

@PatnDebPuckett

4 жыл бұрын

You can order the Coastal length reins through our website, www.thedisciplinedride.com/store . Thank you!

hey pat do you have to treat romals like a reata when it comes to grease them with fat

@PatnDebPuckett

Жыл бұрын

yes.

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Does it matter what bit you use when riding with Romal reins?

@PatnDebPuckett

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. We use romals and chains (you must use chains or the romals are a waste of time) on spade bit horses and certain half breed horses.

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Where are you guys located and do you take visitors?

@PatnDebPuckett

4 жыл бұрын

We’re in Weldon CA. We do offer private lessons by the hour or by the day.

@victorayala3183

4 жыл бұрын

Deb Puckett Sweet you are just up the road from me in Bako. What’s the best way to get in contact with you guys?

@PatnDebPuckett

4 жыл бұрын

You can email me at debpuckett@gmail.com. In the email, let us know a bit about yourself, your goals, your schedule, phone number and best time to call. Thanks!

Not many horseman like Mr Puckett

i would like to send this man some video of me and talk to him to make my traing horse . im am a student of the horse

How long are pats Romals if you don't mind me asking?

@PatnDebPuckett

2 жыл бұрын

28 inches on this particular horse.

@coltonmesserly3952

2 жыл бұрын

Thankyou

@coltonmesserly3952

2 жыл бұрын

Do they come with the palm condo as well?

@coltonmesserly3952

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry meant concho

@PatnDebPuckett

2 жыл бұрын

@@coltonmesserly3952 no they do not.

класс !!

Never work for feedlot horse!

'spade bit is a signal'..................... I prefer to convey subtle signals to the horse not in their mouth. Too easy to make a mistake and cause the horse pain.

@johnmorris7960

5 жыл бұрын

I am not meaning anything bad but you did notice that Mr. Pat is riding with his legs? He changed 4 different directions from his subtle leg cues and never moved his left hand. Just the lifting of the hand sends pre-signal to the bit because of the rein chains. I too ride like you Mr. Gerry. My goal is to not touch their head or mouth and ride completely from my legs. I don't keep horses long enough to get past the hackamore stage but I have studied the Bridle heavily and I am very intrigued by the style. Maybe at some point I will keep horses longer and strive to ride fine bridle horses like Mr. Pat. Mrs. Deb, you are going to have to train the bored cow dog in the background to run the camera. I know with the company you keep that you have a bunch to offer to this channel too. It makes my day to get a notification of a new video from your channel.

@jeanfish7

4 жыл бұрын

@@johnmorris7960 true. By the time a horse is ready for a spade, they are almost 100% leg and seat positionally cued. The spade allows the rider to convey very subtle cues, like " get ready, pay attention". A spade horse is the epitome of a California bridle horse.

Those reins are not called romal. A romal is a different thing. Anglo people not understanding spanish have confused many things. One example is the word " hackamore" which is a corruption from the word jáquima

@PatnDebPuckett

3 жыл бұрын

Originally the Romal was just the “quirt” part and was separate from the reins. Now, it is COMMONLY called a Romal Rein. Our reins are made in Mexico by a man who also calls them Romal Reins. I’m sure that different languages have borrowed terms and changed terms throughout history. In the history of early California, the Romal Rein was developed and used.

@vaquero7x

3 жыл бұрын

The item attached to the reins is not a romal. As I said, a romal is a different thing. These type or reins are not exclusive to California. They have been used in many hispanic countries for centuries. I invite you to see the reins of Perú and you will notice the items. They have also been used in Venezuela and other countries as well and yes in Mexican California too. The person in Mexico is most likely just calling it what you call it adding to the mistake. Keep in mind that the true Californio culture came from central Mexico. The roping techniques did not even exist in Alta California. The saddle head (horn) was invented in the state of Mexico in the 16th century and from there it spread to all the south of Mexico and north of Mexico to places like Zacatecas, San Luis Potosí, Nuevo León, Durango, Coahuila, Chihuahua, Sonora and later to both Baja and Alta California. In 1832 several Mexican vaqueros travelled to Hawaii to teach the natives the Mexican ranching system. At that time the "American West" did not even exist. Many people look at paintings by James Walker and call them vaqueros and assume the riders are from California. The painter James Walker lived in Mexico City and in these paintings he described the riders from Mexico City. All this is perfectly documented as I am not telling you my opinions. The true american horsemanship is what your founding fathers practiced.

@PatnDebPuckett

3 жыл бұрын

@@vaquero7x I’m not really certain what point you are trying to make except that we are calling romal reins by the wrong term but reins that look the same in other parts of South and Central America are called romal reins. I would be sincerely interested in the book you have read on the history of the romal reins and especially, the spade bit. There is no argument about the origin of the saddle horn. The roping shots developed and spread. But I believe that much of what is considered to be Californio horsemanship and roping became more refined in California during the Mission Era and the era of the ranchos. Have you read Two Years Before the Mast, Early California History, and Cattle on a Thousand Hills?

@vaquero7x

3 жыл бұрын

@@PatnDebPuckett Richard Henry Dana wrote the book when California was Mexico so what is your point? The most sophisticated horsemanship was in Mexico City because the aristocracy and the palaces were there. Mexico City was the capital of New Spain and according to historian Patricio Lons, Mexico City and Lima were the richest cities in the spanish empire and in the entire world. As I said the horsemanship from California is also Mexican. My point is that this fact is not recognized by the anglo community.

@vaquero7x

3 жыл бұрын

@@PatnDebPuckett floreo de reata is the most refined form of roping and again this is an art from central Mexico. I invite you to look into floreo de reata. The shots that you claim are Californian such as the viento, contra viento and figura ocho are also from central Mexico. La jàquima for example is mentioned in 1580 in a book written in Mexico City by Juan Suarez de peralta. The jáquima was introduced to Spain by the moors as you may already know.

bits, pain

Haha.... man i laughed my ass off. Good job ol man. Even if i never use a bite or spurs. That is because i am one of this Show riders :D. I am totaly against every bite or spurs in sport or Private riding. Its totaly ok when you realy work with the horse. And.. English riding isnt riding at all :DDDD

you sure have lots of pads umder saddle

@PatnDebPuckett

Жыл бұрын

It’s only one saddle pad with a fleece back and one double blanket.

Can you explain how the palm choncho is set up between the reins and Rommel’s? Is it just a screw concho connecting the leather? If it’s easier you could just email a picture to lazyheartqh@gmail.com. Thank you for being willing to share your knowledge gained over the years. It has been a tremendous help to me.

That mouthpiece is too noisy. Listening to that cricket rolling all the time is distracting

@PatnDebPuckett

4 жыл бұрын

That sound is music to my ears...

@amberboston3154

4 жыл бұрын

What kind of mouthpeice is it anyway?

Where did you get your head stall?

@PatnDebPuckett

3 жыл бұрын

We bought the leather headstall and added the rest.