Afrer extensive research, I'm going with Wetlander for my boat. I spoke directly with Scott from Wetlander for about 15 minutes on the phone. Super solid dude and answered all my questions. It's actually applied with a microfiber mini roller and that's it. He said not to tip this stuff. It lays out great with just a roller. It does take 7 days to fully cure though. And the boat would need to be flipped onto some horses to do the whole bottom. I'm going to do it once the fishing season is done here in the northeast. Probably mid-November. Gonna have to do it in a heated garage.

@chronicawareness9986

4 жыл бұрын

black jesus

@stolencoats63

4 жыл бұрын

@@TinyBoatNation jonboatcoatings.com ...after doing some more research, it does have a slight texture to it...doesn't layout as much as I thought but this stuff is slick as hell and durable as hell...there is a damage test video and the results are impressive...one other downside...this coating is so slick I dont think vinyl decals will stick to it...will have to confirm that with Scott.

@jesuslopez9223

4 жыл бұрын

@@stolencoats63 does this stuff work on fiberglassing boats? My boat needs a new paint job and I don't have the money to mess up.

@stolencoats63

4 жыл бұрын

@@jesuslopez9223 yeah it can be used on fiberglass.

@guitariste47

3 жыл бұрын

@@jesuslopez9223 yes it does

Glad I'm not the only one that learns thru failure. Courage for posting with errors and mistakes, great job and came up nice.

Thank you so much for your video! I am also a DIYer, brand new to boat refurbishing. I learned a ton from your honest and down to earth video! The fact that you included BOTH what worked and what failed makes your video so much MORE valuable to me than slick videos from professionals who have painted boats for 20+ years and show only perfect paint jobs with no mistakes ever. The overly slick videos are simply not realistic paint jobs for most people, and tend to make projects look easier & faster than they actually are. Your down-to-earth acknowledgement of what failed and inclusion of footage showing the problems you encountered gave me a much more realistic sense of what I’m getting into. Thank you for that! I am disappointed by a few of the negative comments some people have posted here. The whole point of DIY videos like this is to educate viewers by sharing both successes and failures. That way we viewers can see for ourselves what will work best for our projects and why. Hats off to you for your honesty and tenacity! Keep going!

@stephengrube1532

2 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly, Sean! I'm staring at my primered boat hull (15' wooden sailboat), wondering what to do next. PU paint just scares me to death on variety of levels. I'm so happy to know that I am not the only one who had a bad first experience with it. These paint products (and epoxy products) are like little monsters who live inside metal cans. If not heavily controlled, they leap out and fuck up your project in a matter of minutes. It's hell on earth to repair the damage. I'm very happy to have KZread videos available and I thank God for them. But, at the end of the day, they can't possibly provide instruction to give perfect results for every situation. YT videos, at best, are the map, certainly not the territory. I loved this video because it confirms what we all know: there is no better teacher than trial and error. On the road to mastery, there is no escaping costly mistakes. Get over it, learn, and move on, as the gentleman in this video did.

Michael you continue to innovate and educate. You have been with me every step of my Tiny Boat journey... So much that is good about your channel! Thank you.... and keep it going!!

Looks great , I’m in process of refurbishing my boat . New deck , center console and paint job . Great info

I'm a new sub and love watching your vids. I know your only human when making these, keep up the solid work you do bro.

Thx for Sharing the fails. You saved others so much pain! We’ll all learn new and exciting lessons to share as well. End product was awesome! Thanks again!

It takes a good man to show how not to do something! Most people would have not showed it and just showed the right way! I think I awesome to show us so we don’t make the same mistakes!

Thanks for sharing the failures too, much better than many vids showing off their perfection, this is a great learning excperience.

I did mine with a gravity feed spray gun and looks professional. But props for doing these builds in 120° heat keep up the good work

Good job! Excellent narration. Thank you.

Love the video man, love the step by step info. Do you recommend 2 coats and tipping both or only one thin well done coat ?

Thanks for sharing the good and bad. I am getting ready to paint my 14' Alumucraft and hope your tips will help me out. Thanks again

Well definitely a what not to do when painting your boat. 😆 rolling and tipping is best done with two people. 1 guy rolling 1 guy tipping. Start at the port side transom and roll the paint moving towards the bow. The tipping man hopefully is right handed. If he is not then start at the bow on the port side. I use a foam brush to tip with. Dip the tip of the foam brush into paint then drag it over the edge of a red solo cup. Gets most of the paint off the brush but still leaves the brush damp to help with maintaining a wet edge ass your rolling and tipping. It blends the start and stop much better. Start with your right hand crossed over infront of your body very light pressure with the brush. One stroke across yourself as your right hand is almost fully extended lift off pressure gently as your finishing your brush stroke. Helps feather in the paint to what was already painted to your right. If you start to notice your foam brush is loading up to much paint because the guy ahead of you is applying it a little to thick. Drag both sides of the foam brush over the edge of a solo cup again. Heat is evil for rolling and tipping. Start your paint early in the morning 5 or 6 am what ever it takes to get the paint done in the cooler part of the morning. Anything over 80 degrees will be a nightmare for orange peel. Add a bit more brushing thinner 15% to 18%. You can knock down orange peel with 400 grit sand paper and apply another coat. I would recommend Alexseal yacht coating / paint as its great for both rolling and tipping as well as spraying. Just not an electric spray gun. It can also be wet sanded and then buffed just like gelcoat. However it is a little thinner. Give me a call sometime and I'll help ya shoot a video for this. 😆 Did alot of marine painting and Varnished bright work back in the day. Probably 100's of coats of paint and varnish. Learned from one of the best.

Years ago I worked for a company painting very large boats where it's impossible to spray a 60 ft boat so we used this method....I used a foam brush to tip the paint and throwing away the brush every few minutes as the tip became distorted....I highly reccomend this method for boats....I was able to get paint jobs that I couldn't tell had not been sprayed....I reccomend a person practice on some scrap sheet metal or something as smooth as your boat...If you get this process right you'll be very pleased with your work as they are in this video....I found this type of paint held up better than any automotive paint I've ever used..,.I think people when they see a paint roller think of painting like they would when painting Thier house but that is a problem.....Thin to win is my saying ....This was a great video !!!! It show the common problems and that persistence pays off.....I assure you most of these paints are not cheap but we'll worth it....I spent years using it as well as doing all types of repairs to boats ..Great video ..,.I'm in the process of painting my Jon boat and I didn't want a spray can camo after the prep work I don't want to do this again in a few years......With my experience with this method I still watched your video to see what had changed with paint in the last 20 yrs....I can say that the paint I used was 200 a gallon and almost as thin as water once mixed ....A gallon would do several boats the size of this one.....I don't know why this paint appeared to be thick once mixed but I can say the thinner it is the less orange peel you'll deal with....Great job and Great video....People that show Thier mistakes help us all....When videos don't show that....to me they have little value .....Really good video you did a great job ...This paint takes practice and you got much better after a few attempts .....Thank you for showing people an awesome way to paint a boat.......No over spray is nice when your working on your boat in a dock close to other boats.

You stuck with it That was awesome

Gravity feed spray guns can be found for less than 50$. You can thin that poly base paint with mineral spirits and use magic hardner for a quicker dry and some sheen. Plus it'll be smooth. If it's spitting out bigger droplets thin a hair more and or adjust air pressure. Rattle can paint is thinned out way too much. Its lighter duty than Poly/ oil based paints when applied with a spray rig. I only roll it on when you want nice thick coats. That hardner definitely speeds up cure process.

I have a Boston Whaler that I'm getting ready to do the same on the hull. Not with aluminum primer but with the Top Side paint. You stated you mixed a 10:1 ratio on the paint to thinner to begin with but realized later you had to put it on thinner. Did you add more thinner to the paint or just tried to apply it much thinner?

You Sir, Have Heart. Thank You for this tutorial.

Been watching your channel for a long time. A+ Hopefully it will come together next go around. You always have good need to know knowledge. Waiting for your next video 👍👍

Great job very patient. Lear a lot from you bro. Thank you

A quick question...did you use a clearcoat on the bottom aluminum? It looks like bare metal. I am about to paint my boat and need to know what to put on bottom of two-tone color scheme.

Man, I plan on painting my entire 16ft boat so I'll have to watch this in it's entirety. My plan has been to do a total strip and paint with Aluma Hawk. I have not heard anyone have problems with it but do you have thoughts on that paint? Good or Bad?

In the category of learning thru mistakes or failures I have found that the best rattle can paint jobs are those done with rustoleum professional, it comes in a silver can there aren't as many colors available in the professional type but you will get a glossy finish the drys hard and is durable. If you are doing the exterior of your hull and want a high gloss super durable finish follow up with 2k clear. It has a hardner in the can that has to be activated and mixeg before application.

@kunipshunfit

Жыл бұрын

I agree. I restored my trailer and used the Rustoleum Pro enamel gloss black. The finish looks like a factory job and its very strong.

Hey Tiny Boat Nation: I see that your fingers are getting tired watching you moving from thumb to index. I know. Get the $7 rust-oleum comfort spray grip that goes on top of the can. It'll make your life so much easier. Believe me.

@coryrouten8053

4 жыл бұрын

I tried using one of those and I was not a fan. With the can I was using, undercoating, the comfort spray grip would not fully push down the nozzle on the top. I am not sure if it was just with that product, or if it is like that with all rust-oleum products. I think the product is a great idea though. If you like it, great, I just wanted to share my experience with the product.

Nice mike thanks I'm going to paint my 11.5 next season

Can this stuff be sprayed on using an HVLP paint gun?

I failed on the cans (too thick) and I’m going to try this. Thanks again for the videos.

Hey Michael, I wished I would have seen this before I rolled the inside gunnel of my boat, it sucks, the orange peel is crazy. Can I sand it and spray over Rust-Oleum gloss black with spray can gloss black?

Dude, where were you in 2015 when I was doing my boat??? Sheesh! Ha ha ha! Great info

how many gallons did you go through? vs using Rust Oleum paints?

Question I painted our boat with the same product this year and months later i shrink wrapped the boat for the winter. Weeks later I opened the cover to put more things away and noticed the paint in various areas has bubbles in it from trapped moisture under the shrink wrap and yes the cover did have vents.....have you had the same problem

The paint link is not working What barnd of paint did you use and how did it hold up below the water line .

Thank you for sharing; I just Subscribed!

Thanks for making me look good.

Would you be comfortable kitting out an older boat ? Like late 70’s early 80’s doesn’t leak but just wondering

So after watching this and your rattle can video, rattle canning seems the way to go!

Michael, looks like you only did one really thin coat in the end. Is that right?

Now I don’t know if I wanna paint my boat lmao. Good stuff bro

- It will go a long way to avoid lap marks if you draw the brush tip from dry into wet. - Foam brushes (2-3” wide) are excellent for laying off the finish coat but not for application (too slow). Use a good quality bristle brush (3” wide) natural or polyester. The idea is to get the material on with proficiency then lay off (tipping) with the foam brush. You could also use a 3” roller (fine nap) and small tray for applying the material. - Two people work best at it. - Absolutely avoid days that will be too warm (air temperature above 75 F) Stay out of direct sun and the wind will flash it off faster then you can keep up. Try to do the work at the earliest time of the day. - And like you found out multiple thin coats will give finer results - A dust mask is a good idea when using the palm sander, even outdoors you will be surprised after 1 hour what you have been breathing in.

I’ve been asked to paint a mural on the back of a boat. Would this be the ideal way to primer any boat for paint? And what sort of paint would I use for the mural?

@TinyBoatNation

Жыл бұрын

Epoxy primer

What's model rivet gun?

I've always found tipping faster works better for me

A year later, would you rather tip/roll or rattle can?

Where did you find that electric pop rivet gun? The only ones I can seem to find are air actuated.

@clacker54

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I found it right after I posted. Thanks.

Question: if you were painting a brand new tracker jon boat, would you take it all the way to the bare metal? If I don't care about a glossy finish, wouldn't the outside coat (pretty textured) be a great surface for rattle can application??

@BeatRock253

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a fellow duck hunter

How would I go about getting s sticker for my boat I got a 12 aluminum vhall I'm making into a bass boat and would love to have a sticker for tiny boat Nation

An old Soup Ladel or measuring cup from the dollar store works good for scooping paint out of the can without spilling everywhere

Have you considered low temp aluminum brazing rods and map gas for filling those hulls? Works amazingly well

@feellnfroggy

3 жыл бұрын

@@TinyBoatNation I don't mean welding. I'll burn a hole like a lighter and socks trying to weld, lol. Just a map gas (yellow bottle) torch from home depot and the low temp brazing rods, fills in holes like melting a plastic spoon. Which I actually just used. I had a small hole and melted a soda bottle into it and filled it nice. Lol.

Color sand and polish?

Does this work on fiberglass?

Please know that the masking tape you use DOES matter, especially if you’re painting outside in the sun and the project will take more than one day. You want your tape to leave a sharp line, to pull off without breaking and to not leave residue. 3M blue 2090 is pretty good, but not in the sun for a week (at least in FL). The very expensive 3M silver 225 is good for several days, perhaps even a month, but test any tape before you use it for the number of days you expect it to be on. Tape deteriorates over time, though it has no “use by date”.

I already put my tags on my boat, but I would like to paint my boats. Would you have any suggestion on how I should go about it besides covering it? If I take it out is there away to reapply it?

@andrewpresser4699

4 жыл бұрын

True ChamP I would try to take them off with a razor blade and a blow dryer. Then reapply with epoxy or something. Or you could try to get new tags and just remove the ones you put on

Awesome vid. Where's the link to the store

Is it necessary to go down to bare metal?

Michael I have a video on wrapping my boat that folks might find interesting. Single color vinyl rolls is pretty cheap, and believe it or not.. it’s not that hard to do on a small boat. The video is called “Camo Wrapping my Boat”

@mainetroutwhisperer

4 жыл бұрын

Michael Lopez kzread.info/dash/bejne/n5OisJhpnLKZdNo.html

nice man im close to rolling and tipping my boat! fucking love bugs tho i cant untill they are gone. DUDE i got total boat topside wet edge aqua mist for the inside and seafoam for the outside. and the total boat 2 part primer too. its gunna be a nice flats boat / fresh water / salt water combo skiff ima post a video of the whole thing when its done

May I ask how’s the durability for the krypton color master spray paint on the inside? It is long lasting ? It is easy to peel off or scratch? Are there any better paint for the inside job? Thankyou !!

@TinyBoatNation

3 ай бұрын

This was very long lasting, but they discontinued it pretty quickly, and I can never find it again

@jeffreyau1286

3 ай бұрын

@@TinyBoatNation Do u think th Krylon Colormaxx and fushion 3 in 1 can do the same job as the color master? Thanks!!

New sub here to TBN ! Awesome video man just picked up a 85 sea nymph, any ideas? I'm in ohio but thinking about dragging it you, let me know✌🏾

No losses if you learn!!! 💯🏆

When you tip. Tip sideways then up and down... if you just tip sideways the paint lines are horizontal and can sag onto itself where if you last tip in up and down the paint will less likely run or will run down the tip line. Not on top of each other and over lap like tipping left to right.

i'm working on a 14ft aluminum boat on a 19ft trailer i got for $50 ahha! I still got a fair bit of work to do on it before painting but thats why im looking into it now.....he mentioned that maybe i should be looking into some type of marine grade paint? It not like its going to be docked for days/months on end, just in the water and out in a matter of a few hours...would you guys (in the comments or Tiny Boat Nation) recommend using normal paint or some type of marine grade paint? looking to paint it dark green and then put some camoflage coloring into it Thanks in advance!

@mangoboxer4082

3 жыл бұрын

Alumahawk john boat green is what i'm about to use. Looks like its gonna be awesome

Tip: if the paint is too thick and orange peeling immediately from the sprayer, then add more thinner.,,, i think tree are additives that compensate for high or low temperatures also

Why didn't you spray paint the out side as well?

Am I seeing you use a water hose in one hand and an electric sander in the other?

Jaffa finish 😎

Need to tip, lay off, into the previous section, whilst still wet. The trick is speedy application, laying off into the previous coatings. Looks like that's a dry brush? Badger hair softer isn't needed. A decent quality sash brush does just fine. Also, did you just cost the chrome or polished cleats etc? Guaranteed that will be where this coating begins to fail. That or the untreated rivets you installed as you were priming. Also, a bit of orange peel in the coating is preferably to extremely thin coatings.

Rust oleum professional Enamel. Gloss Black. 44 Bux. StarCraft 16 SS. 15 years and still glossy. Prep Key.

Is the tipping totally necessary?

If orange peel is the problem, it’s either a spray tip issue, pressure, or you haven’t added enough paint thinner to get the proper consistency out of your paint. Don’t ever use a Wagner sprayer. Get a compressor and a Graco cup gun designed for fine finishes with oil based paints.

What about vinyl wrap

Wat would u use for a fiberglass gheenoe

@TinyBoatNation

Жыл бұрын

Gelcoat

Suggestion: practice painting a scrap of metal or fiberglass to get a feel for the paint before doing the first coat on the hull

I appreciate that you show the fails on here, as someone redoing mine. You do mention that it was too hot/humid for you, what would happen if you did it in 50 degree weather?

@bassandbeer4802

2 жыл бұрын

I’m having problems right now with it in 50’s right now the paint gets thick even with a bunch of thinner but who knows, I’m new here

@jjmcg9688

2 жыл бұрын

@@bassandbeer4802 I think I’ll wait until it gets warmer.

How long did the barrier coat take to fully harden

@TinyBoatNation

10 ай бұрын

It was good in an hour

@diymarine837

10 ай бұрын

See mine was dry but I can chip it with my fingernail if I press pretty hard

What rivets did you use in this video?

@TinyBoatNation

2 жыл бұрын

3/16"

So why didn't you spray paint it? Would've given a glassy finish. Saw another vid where a rattle can of paint did the entire top half of the hull

You boys really need to have a class for folks who want to learn these skills. I have a 14ft Duracraft I'd drag to a class. Just a thought.

I wonder if it would have been better just to brush it all on in the beginning?

Jotun is THE BEST!

@texassportsoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

You mix the hardener with the gallon paint and you can immediately start painting.

Can you try the Wetlander paint on the next project!?

@mackb3164

4 жыл бұрын

Tiny Boat Nation well the FedEx guy “gives” me stuff every week. Guess you better order some ;)

Dude! You're tipping backwards! If you pull backwards into your wet edge you won't have to reroll your seams, and you'll be able to do bigger patches.

@chronicawareness9986

4 жыл бұрын

@@TinyBoatNation haha its all good man ! even with tipping the wrong way it looks good, did it come out good in person? just edit the video with a disclaimer or somthing saying you tipped the wrong direction but keep the video!

Go up and down with tiping not to the side easy to blend roller line

@TinyBoatNation

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

You did fine the first time. Just need to sand again with much diner paper. Paint again. Sand again with very fine then last coat and finish with wet and dry paper. Should come out mirror clean. Wax after very important

Tip towards your wet side next time to get rid of the "seams"

With all the boats you build. I would invest in a rivet gun to do solid rivets instead of closed end poppers

It doesn’t matter how many videos you watch just gotta do it and learn.

Dude I love that rivet gun! Where did u get it from??

Do you really what orange peel is?

Kudos for posting your mistakes so others can learn. You need to maintain a wet edge and tip the other direction so you "tip" off the seam. Watch some videos by Andy at Boat Works Today....he does a great tutorial.

@TinyBoatNation

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, will do!

The only thing you should be buying from the dollar store for your projects, is snacks.

You seam it by back brushing into the previous patch of paint

@tommak6516

22 күн бұрын

Thanks for that comment, I had a question regarding that.

Maybe setup an air conditioner in the garage to get the temperature down lower

Next time u spray paint go Walmart or home depot and get the plastic gun makes life alot ezer

Wow wow wow this dude loves pain If I would have got paint on my driveway the neighbors would have ran me down the road. . I have learned sooo much about this exercise. I felt like I was doing the filming. But I couldn’t look .

Dude after u roll you should be tipping vertically not horizontal to avoid sagging

Can you not just spray it like doing a car ?

😬😂

Get wet and dry sandpaper lot easier

I think, after watching, that I would avoid gloss black.