Blurs face.... only to be clearly visible in the reflection on the window.

Nice to see discussions like these besides just pricing.

@watchguys_

2 ай бұрын

awesome! we can definitely show more 🙌

Rolex actually didn’t refuse to service the watch - they just had certain requirements, namely, that the dial and hands would have to be replaced with service parts in order to bring the watch up to service quality.

@jaybleu6169

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, but that's insane. Can you imagine if you took your car to the mechanic because the starter was broken, but they wouldn't fix it unless you agreed to a new paint job, replacement of all the shocks, new upholstery, a new headliner, and new tires? Nobody would go for that. The customer bought the watch and it belongs to them. They should be the ones to decide what work they want done on it. We need to reject this idea that the manufacturer can set the standards for what work an item needs. It's the customer, and only the customer, who decides that.

@oaktree1628

2 ай бұрын

@@jaybleu6169 well it’s partly because every Rolex that gets serviced also gets a Service Warranty card that guarantees a certain level of quality for a certain period of time. There’s a standard that has to be upheld. The customer still does have the ultimate say on what they want to do by choosing somewhere else to have their watch serviced.

I have a rail dial 1665 and honestly there's so much to worry about with these vintage ones. My dad never thought much about it since it was his watch for years. I know too much so it's, like, stressful to think about. 😂

Spider dial is due to a lacquer issue, nothing to do with moisture ingress to the case.

@MrRevvvhead

2 ай бұрын

What it's worth, my guess, box and papers $12 to 13,000.

@watchguys_

2 ай бұрын

Yes indeed :)

@michaeldemarco899

2 ай бұрын

Probably same sort of checking like you see on Les Paul guitars

I think when you put a watch in a zip lock bag you should put a moisture absorbing sachet in it.

@EDCKnifeAddiction

Ай бұрын

Silica jell?

I brought my 2004 14060M to an authorized dealer for service and asked that they not polish it. They polished it. They did not charge me for the service.

Simple solution, find a good independent watch maker who’ll treat you like a customer who owns the watch, not a mark.

Since the guy didn’t want to show his face, the watch is worth $0 to me !! 😂

The Bracelet is a solid end link so that’s not original to an 80’s watch. Those came out about 2000. Oh but it’s a sea dweller. I don’t know about those

@watchguys_

2 ай бұрын

Good catch!

@1vjbknife

2 ай бұрын

​@@watchguys_ My first Seadweller was from 1983 and it had solid end links, and I think it was a new model that year. The Submariner that I had from a few years earlier did not have solid end links.

The date of the watch goes by the first letter in the serial number for any Rolex pre 2010. The date on the card means nothing, that can be filled in at any time. This dealer knows nothing

@watchguys_

2 ай бұрын

The watches serial number tells you the exact year that the watch was manufactured. The date on the card is the date the watch “sold” or “left” the AD. The customer was confused as to why the paperwork was a different year than the serial number revealed. This is the reason as explained.

@user-ew7qx9zj6v

2 ай бұрын

Agree limited knowledge for a so called expert. 7-8 million serial number, laquer problem was the paint.

@watchguys_

2 ай бұрын

@@user-ew7qx9zj6v Hi there. As explained in our most recent comment, the watches serial number tells you the exact year that the watch was manufactured. The customer was confused as to why the paperwork showed a different year than the serial number revealed. He understood once we explained that the date on the card is only the date that the watch "left" the AD, and not the date that the watch was produced. Regarding the "spider dial" effect, this is indeed an issue caused by a defect in the lacquer. This does occur with some glossy dials of watches made from this time frame whose lacquer causes a cracking effect also known as "crazing" or a "spider dial". Spider dials are actually more sought after as many were/are replaced by Rolex during routine services and repairs.

@TheRacerRich

2 ай бұрын

Not really, it is industry norm to refer to the watch by the year on the card. Yes, everybody doing this knows that is not necessarily when the watch was made, but that is the proper jargon

@watchguys_

2 ай бұрын

Correct! Date on the card (date the watch leaves the AD) is the date the warranty is from forward. Serial number tells you year of production.

Does Rolex refuse service or says they will only service if they can replace parts? I have an 86 Sub which my father had serviced by someone other than Rolex about 25 years ago and they replaced the dial with a “rescreened” dial. Since it’s not original anymore I’d rather have a “service dial” from Rolex and to get the watch back fresh shape. I am not sure if this is even possible due to the watch’s age

@oaktree1628

2 ай бұрын

Not sure what a rescreened dial is, but I had a similar issue with my 85 Datejust which I recently brought to a Rolex authorized dealer for service, but I had changed the dial to a different color dial a long time ago. Even though the replacement dial was an authentic Rolex dial, they told me that it would have to be replaced with a new service dial, and new service hands, and that the old parts would not be returned to me. This is apparently their standard procedure now, to prevent authentic Rolex parts from being potentially re-used in fake Rolex watches.

@EDHBlvd

2 ай бұрын

@@oaktree1628 but they were willing to service? This video suggests they wouldn’t service the watch.

@oaktree1628

2 ай бұрын

@@EDHBlvd yes they did it. Took a few months to get it back but now looks like new.

@EDHBlvd

2 ай бұрын

@@oaktree1628nice! Ya that is what I want. To kind of refresh this old Sub. I’d want to keep it all original if it was, but since I know the dial is not original already and it was serviced by someone questionable, I’d rather Rolex look it over and make it solid for another couple decades.

@oaktree1628

2 ай бұрын

@@EDHBlvd if you don’t want it polished, be sure to tell them several times. I told them once, but somehow they didn’t get the message and it came back polished. But I’m actually happy with it bc they did a good job

The issue with the watch industry is people that think I have the original box, hang tag, rag, sleeve, manual, etc, who cares, it's a watch

@jerrywallop5647

2 ай бұрын

Yea if it’s a Seiko ……not other brands

Authenticity for values

so they did not say 'no'. They said YES

Humidity gets trapped inside a sealed ziplock

@Laguna2013

2 ай бұрын

put a desiccant in that ziplock perhaps

@oaktree1628

2 ай бұрын

Or put the box inside a plastic garment bag that has one of those valves that can be suctioned with a vacuum hose and vacuum sealed.

@bigmacdaddy1234

2 ай бұрын

Nobody cares.

@BPKROME

2 ай бұрын

@@bigmacdaddy1234 cared enough to reply 😁

@bigmacdaddy1234

2 ай бұрын

@@BPKROME Reply does not equal care.

That bloke is as interesting as watching paint dry......

Literally all these questions can be answered spending 3 minutes online

It’s from the 80s and he wonders why the box not disintegrated yet? LOL

@aussie8114

2 ай бұрын

😂

This guy (the owner) is exactly why the Rolex market is out of control - people who have no idea what they're doing or talking about who just want a flashy watch so they can tell their friends "it's a birth year watchhhhhhh from nineteen eighty-eighttttttt with a spider dialllllll".

This is the reason that I sold my sub and daydate. Rolex thinks their shot doesn't stink. Highly overpriced. With the prices they charge for a service you never own it, you're actually leasing. I gave em up 10 years ago and I don't miss them!

Blur his face but not the reflection lol

If this person is in a "wet" area, I would suggest to pack everything hermetically (zip bags) during a dry day or dry environment inside and put some good quality food safe silica gel packs. And finally, never swim or dive with this watch. Not worth the risk.

So caught in the dollars he has no sense.

That's why i go for Patek Philippe as PP have all the archives of the watches it made before and can service / replace them with original parts even if its 100 years old. For more than 1 generation, PP is the brand to go. That's why i am passing on this legacy to our baby.

When it comes to fine imitation watches, nkuwan delivers. I've bought from them several times, and I've never been let down.

What schmuck would take that watch under water

@fewik8567

2 ай бұрын

That's what it's for? It's a dive watch

@HughesEnterprises

2 ай бұрын

If it passes a 100m pressure test, I would in a second. I swim with all my watches.

@gwcrispi

2 ай бұрын

If I have a Rolex dive watch, I'm still going to dive with my Citizen Promaster. The fish don't care if I'm wearing a Rolex.

Ppl r so anal about nothing.

@heiner71

Ай бұрын

He is talking about the thing like it is 100 years old. "How did the cardboard box survive this long?".

That customer was driving me nuts with dumb questions.

@bryanryan4504

2 ай бұрын

Really? Unfortunately you won't last long in life if small things such as this drives you nuts.

2 ай бұрын

@@bryanryan4504 I've been around a lot longer than you sunshine and got a few medals along the way..

@gwcrispi

2 ай бұрын

I totally agree with this comment. He could have answered 90% of his question by investing a few hours on KZread.

@bigmacdaddy1234

2 ай бұрын

@@bryanryan4504 It also drives me nuts and I have lasted a very long time. Can't stand stupid people with their stupid questions.

Ilia kvalito ne estas malsupera al tiuj grandaj luksaj varoj. La fortikeco kaj atento al detaloj rivalas kun la originalaj dezajnistsakoj kaj mi ne povas kredi kiom mi ?paris. ?i estas la perfekta akcesora?o por iu ajn moda knabino! Mi certas, ke mi rea?etos iujn aliajn stilojn kaj kolorojn ? nkuwan por kongrui kun miaj vesta?oj kaj ?uoj!

What a prat, the movement has an issue which may require replacement parts but wants all of the original parts fitted at the factory to keep it 100% original how the hell does he think that works. The number of times I have customers like this who listen to the sales persons nonsense and other dealers and collectors who don't have a clue what they are talking about.

HEY #nkuwan I have been watching you for years and im so proud of where you have made it! I love you so much! Also thanks for making my day

I absolutely love my ROLEX replicas. For under $800.00, I have an amazing collection of super fakes!

Bullshit.

This service cost as much as a small flat!!!!!!!

In Toronto canada I buy a super super clone I bring it to a rolex expert he say it was real rolex . Unbelievable. Your super clone look just like mine. You a expert but a regular person like me will never know. Imagine on nkuwan

@spiros2310

2 ай бұрын

You are poor

@fewik8567

2 ай бұрын

​@@spiros2310and who are you?