To be honest, if those piano sounds do not make you happy, then I think that you cannot be made happy. Every piano sound that you have played in this video sounds fantastic to me. In fact, watching your video is actually selling me on getting a Roland RD2000 of my own.

@tuneunleashed

4 жыл бұрын

David Grason Honestly he could just use it as a midi controller lol and use the rest of the sounds instead of complaining

@slapmyfunkybass

3 жыл бұрын

Lordtunes World That’s one hell of an expensive midi controller.

@qpianist5918

3 жыл бұрын

BINGO!

@strawberryyogurt0

3 жыл бұрын

​@@slapmyfunkybass .... (note: I’m a newbie). Essentially different instruments, and considering the major cost difference between the RD2000 and a real Steinway grand piano, does MangoldProject (or anyone not liking the sound of the RD2000), have a legitimate valid reason for not liking RD2000? RD2000 vs Steinway Concert Grand Piano: kzread.info/dash/bejne/eHaIy66YiMm7p7Q.html

@pianolentiwals1862

3 жыл бұрын

@@strawberryyogurt0 that comparisson is totally useless. because you are hearing the recorded audio. hearing a steinway live is a total different thing.

Sounds pretty f**ing awesome to me!

I actually liked the way this piano sounds. I guess it's just personal preference

Question, what were the initial settings you placed on the RD-2000 in this video? The first few knobs are dialed very much to the right, leaving one to one wonder your personal preference. I do agree with you, however, in general the piano sounds of the RD-2000 are not at the level of other digital pianos. It requires a lot of editing to get the piano sounding pristine. I think a strong point of the RD-2000 is that it is a very good controller with amazing flexibility to program other gear connected to it. I have considered other digital pianos, but I still find myself seriously considering the RD-2000 because of the features and quality of the keyboard that you mentioned. Thanks for your post.

Is there a reason you're tied to stage pianos? How about the Roland A-88 controller and a really good VST like Ivory or Keyscape. Under $1500 and you have the best piano sounds and Roland's great keyboard action.

Hello, just quickly. I for one appreciate your candid honest review of this keyboard. I'm on the cusp of purchasing it but your review is giving me caus e for pause. I bought a Nord Piano 3, 6 months ago and I love the sounds and many other things about it but I cannot live with the Phatar action, it's awful. I really thought being a heavy handed player that I'd adapt but boy was I wrong. Anyway just wondering if you still feel the same way about this piano after you've had it a bit longer and some people have given their advise on how to edit the sound. Also I'm wondering, you mentioned that you can download the sound you liked from the NX I think it was so what would be the problem there? Thanks in advance if you're able to respond. Love your channel btw, I've learned loads from you . :)

Hey I just got this Roland, and straight after firing it up was also a bit disappointed. I totally get what you mean by "boxy". It really did sound a bit dull, especially mid-low register. After tweaking it for a bit (EQing things didn't get me the desirable effect) I found the key touch button. Setting touch to 'light' and key touch offset to about -8 made all the difference to me! It brought out the brightness, and it definitely wasn't just that the velocity curve changed (before, no matter how hard I hit the sound remained dull). It started sounding great. I'm honestly not sure why this is set like this by default - the dullness was pretty apparent straight away to me. Anyway, I know this is old, but I just found this and maybe it will be useful to someone.

@ravenmusic932

Жыл бұрын

Let’s be honest: the factory settings are quite unfortunate in many ways. I purchased the board initially because the alternatives were worse, but after some deep explorations I have managed to set up some very satisfying programs for my gigs.

@chrisanderson9981

Жыл бұрын

@@ravenmusic932 Yes, one that gets pitched a lot are Nord boards and I didn't vibe with the action on those, even though they sound great. Granted, they released the Nord Grand with Kawaii action, but not when I was in the market for a new board.

@ericnataf8430

9 ай бұрын

Hi , thanks a lot for your genius reccomodaition to put the keytouch on light and offset on 8 I am triying almost one year to finde the best piano sound for me by twieking and editing until i read your coment Thanks

@toodamnpink8165

2 ай бұрын

You are a life savor ❤ thank you so much

Sometimes a brighter sound is exactly what you want on stage

have you tested the kawai vpc 1? im really happy with it using synthogy ivory II

Acoustic pianos have the same subtle difference before and after the felt on the hammers is "voiced". I actually do hear the difference between the two pianos sounds you played and I , like you, prefer your old sound. But disagree that the RD2000 is a bad purchase. The very fact that you can upload the old sounds have both sounds in your instrument means it is both the old and the new... all in the same box. How can that be a bad thing?? Honestly, the touch and feel of the Roland is what makes it the best choice...the sound is just electronics and stored samples and you can basically have any sound you want on a keyboard. You can't download touch and feel for the keys.

Does the RD 2000 have the "Ultimate Piano Sound"? I was shocked, as it was dropped out in the RD 800 (for me the best sound for Chopin).

Sounds like an EQ issue. Has Roland made it exceptionally difficult to change such settings with this model?

@jarondbrown

6 жыл бұрын

This is not an eq issue. I’ve owned both the Juno ds 61 and fa08 and the piano sounds are just average at best. I’ve tried tweaking them very extensively and they lack warmth and depth. I’m actually happier with piano patches from my iPad. Everything else is pretty solid...eps, organs, guitars etc but Roland does not make great piano patches.

@Wourghk

6 жыл бұрын

Having worked with piano sounds for quite a few years, both good and bad, I can tell you from experience that EQ solves a great many issues in tone, especially as they pertain to warmth and depth. In this case, boost a little 1.5k and 5.5k with a wide Q, maybe lift the highs a touch with a shelf to bring out the shine and the RD2000 sounds acceptable if not great. I grabbed the audio from this video and had a play with it, and while the results are marred with mp3 compression artifacts, the tone sounds pretty good with a little love. In fact, the RD2000 has a remarkable soundstage overall compared to the 700GX, which surprised me, as it was so difficult to hear with the mids scooped and highs rolled off as they were. I'd be happy to post an audio comparison to some public cloud storage thing tomorrow if you would like to hear.

@MangoldProject

6 жыл бұрын

I've tried playing around with the EQ quite a bit without any success. If you can make me like it I'd be totally in your debt :)

@Wourghk

6 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I'm already in your debt for the great videos so I'd be more than happy to do everything in my ability to improve your piano sound! The unfortunate reality is that I don't own an RD2000 or know what built-in tools are available, and my current solution for better tone would require you to use outboard gear or to run the keyboard's output through software DSP, the latter which may be a bad option if you value low latency. I know I do with my Kawai MP11, which is fortunate enough to have a built-in 4- and 7-band EQ. If you own a decent 3-band EQ, that should do the business. However, I couldn't get a truly satisfying tone without using 4 of a 5-band unit. The 1.5K boost was also joined by a small boost at 400Hz, 5.5k, and a shelf (that is actually a really wide Q band) that lifts centered at 35k, such that the air around 10k and up is given a little push. level-matched after the boosts, it sounds great in my opinion.

@jarondbrown

6 жыл бұрын

I played around with all of the settings that your're refering to and while it did improve the sound, its still average at best. Its not horrible but a stage piano at this price range should sound a lot better in my opinion. IF you AB any current roland flagship next to a piano library like True keys, ravenscroft or Keyscape, then you can here its flaws and how underwhelming it is in comparison. Everything from the release samples to the string resonance is just off. It sounds extremely artificial in comparision. There is a reason why you pretty much never see professional musicians using Roland synths on stage. They always use yamaha, nord etc. If a piano patch is good, it will sound above average without any modifications.

Was this nice RD-700 sound an additional sound that you imported or was it already in the RD-2000? Thanks for the review.

Would you prefer the CP88 to the the Roland RD??

I purchased one, sold it and then missed it after trying multiple flagship keyboards, so I bought another one. The Rd2000 can be tweaked to sound virtually any way you prefer. This is such a good board I couldn’t recommend it enough. My belief is that you haven’t fully explored and used all the customizations available. In any event, everyone has their own tastes.

@xtrofilm

2 жыл бұрын

Hia Brian, i would like to buy one of these just for home use, do i have to buy speakers to play it through, im only a learner. Thanks, Kevin.

@radar476

2 жыл бұрын

@@xtrofilm You will need monitors I'm pretty sure. They're worth it, I promise!

@xtrofilm

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate.@@radar476

@victornikora2857

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, optimise the effects to customise your own unique sound to suit ☝️

I use the supernatural Concert Grand on my RD2000, I find its much crisper and cuts much better. Not full polyphony on the supernatural sounds, but I’ve never incurred any issues with c.1000 notes of polyphony or whatever it is. The supernatural sound has smooth dynamic shifts too so there’s no dynamic stages, which is just like the V Piano, so again same level of spec just a better sound. Just set up a scene where the concert grand is on the first button. Also try messing with the sound lift options on tone designer, and the tone colour dial (also affected by the mod wheel). Adjusting the key touch also improves clarity.

i'm curious if the Bold Beauty is sampled after Baldwin, and is there a Bosendorfer?

I did not like the RD-2000 piano sounds until I played them with a band. Surprisingly they really sound good in the mix, bright, crisp and really cut through!

@musikunterrichtwesel

Жыл бұрын

I made the same experience, the piano sounds fit better in the band than any other Piano I´d played before.

Have you ever tried the Kurzweil Forte or Physis K4 EX?? Which one do you prefer over the RD2000? I wanted to get one of them as a main MIDI controller for my studio...

@MangoldProject

6 жыл бұрын

We don't really have Kurzweils in my country (they're heavily underrepresented). I'll be in NYC this month so I'll be giving them a spin!

Mr Mangold , this is my dream piano, I live in South Africa, the way my life will change just by getting this piano, maybe you can be generous hahhaa

@senaljayarathne665

6 жыл бұрын

Nice try bud.... :c I feel you should work hard for your dream and not beg.... Anyways goodluck....

@maynemuzik7878

6 жыл бұрын

INTERESTING MY GUY

@kennedymuzyamba9988

6 жыл бұрын

@Lanes Rules, can't you get to some humor in a post? He ain't begging..

@maynemuzik7878

6 жыл бұрын

word maGuy, thanks for the support hahhaha

@andreventer8623

6 жыл бұрын

lol, I'm also from South Africa, I'm going a much cheaper route: M-audio Hammer88 controller. There's some decent VSTi pianos out there, check out Ravenscroft 275 VI www.vilabsaudio.com/Ravenscroft-By-VI-Labs

Hey... I just watched your video. I'm going to have to disagree with you on that one. The Stage Piano sounded a lot fuller to me on my end. The 7GX ExpressiveGrnd sounded a bit thin on the low end. No doubt the 7GX ExpressiveGrnd was cleaner, but the Stage Piano sounded by far more realistic (especially when your were gracing notes). I'm listening to your video through a pair of Yamaha HS8 monitor speakers. See for yourself. I'm not saying that like the RD-2000 or anything like that, but I own an RD-800 and I like the fact that you could adjust the EQ, Tone color, and reverb on it. Did you try to make any of these adjustments?

@MangoldProject

6 жыл бұрын

That's what's great about life, everyone is different. I just put this video out there because I'm sure there will be others who are considering this piano and who think/feel like me, and whose attention should be drawn to this particular characteristic.

@MangoldProject

6 жыл бұрын

As far as EQ is concerned, EQ can't really fix a lot. A "scooped mid" sound can't be fixed by adding something that isn't there. If that were true, any musical/audio manufacturer would build crappy hardware and use EQ to fix it. It just doesn't work.

Hey, Mangold. Really appreciate the review and your honesty as a buyer to be as objective as possible. These are the things I'm looking for while I'm considering such an investment. But I am a bit confused. So it seems as if the only major concern you have with this keyboard is the main piano sound. Weren't you able to upload your preferred piano sound you were comparing the new one too? And are you able to download other sounds onto the computer from the internet? This is the grey area I have currently with my research with the Roland. Hope you see this and can reply. Thanks again!

So, you don't like RD2000 because... you just don't like it... mmkay. I love Roland RD2000, it's key action and it's acoustic piano engines. You got it right, it has two engines: pure physical modelling V-Piano engine (S01-S10) and hybrid SuperNatural multisampling with phys modeling (0001-...). Though S01 Stage isn't my favourite tone, your RD2000 sounds weird. Check out settings, EQ, tweak the sound in Piano Designer, it has got a ton of parameters. It's a great device, I like it way better than Nord. I hear these lamentations from time to time... like "awww, they spoiled it, I liked my RD800 better". No, guys, you're wrong, it's your baby duck syndrome talking.

Hello MangoldProject. I very much enjoy your pleasant noodling on the RD! Thank you. Reading through the comments below I see that you are using 'the Mackie MRMk3 6.5 inch active monitors'. I'm not an expert ... but after seeing a killer CSNY tribute band here in St. Louis I noticed one of the band members was using a Bose PA as his keyboard monitor. From where I was sitting it sounded amazing (first five rows ... so I was hearing more of the Bose than the mains). After picking his brain and clearing the Bose purchase with 'the boss' (wife) I purchased the Bose system and it adds depth and full range to my RD2000 that makes it a pleasure to play every time. Just great! Btw ... I play in a band that covers classic rock, Motown, country, pop, etc. I'm not saying you need to run out and spring for a Bose system (I was in the market anyway for my duo) ... but perhaps a more full range keyboard monitor to enhance your experience? Actually your post brings up a great point ... what will be the best way to capture the RD in a studio setting. Hope to find out soon. I wish you all the best with your RD & 'tone quest'.

@MangoldProject

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Stephen. Every other digital piano I've played through that system sounded great. And part of the playing was done through a pair of headphones. So I doubt it has to do with the amplification.

@joseasensio6691

3 жыл бұрын

@@MangoldProject It does sound a bit boxy, yes. But you did not tweak it or navigated through the tons of settings available to find your sound. I own an RD-800 and have to adjust EQ, character, velocity curve, etc, as other people have mentioned in previous comments, to get the sound I like for every situation. I am ok with the Beyerdynamics (I own a pair and they sound excellent). Not sure about the AKG as I never tried those cans. The Rokits, not a good reference IMO, especially if your studio is not acoustically treated.

I strongly disagree, i had taken alot of interest and time to get opinions and reviews from professionals, and other people who just dedicate their time and effort to review and explore keyboards. Virtually all of them have been impressed with the RD 2000. I want to think that your review is personal and quiet opinionated. By the way, try to change your speakers, and trust me, your opinion will change. The RD 2000 sound different through different speakers. This is one of the best keyboard workstations you will find on the market.

@MangoldProject

6 жыл бұрын

Of course it's opinionated - it's a review :). It sounds pretty dull through both headphones (DT770, AKG240) and active monitors (Mackie MRmk3s and previously 8" KRK Rokits). A lot of other pianos (incl. VSTs, Kawai ES100, Roland RD700GX) sound great through all of these.

@paulmapp8306

5 жыл бұрын

@@MangoldProject sounds great through my Adam a5xs and my any 240 v2s The bright, mid light sounds your used to are similar to the scooped sounds popular for listening. It adds oomph and sizzle, but isnt natural acoustic sound. Depends what you want. If your after an authentic acoustic piano tone the v piano based rd sounds are very close. If you want a Mic,d up studio or stage processed sound it will sound a little mid heavy and boxy. Real pianos are Mic,d and processed to to make them sound how they do, it's not their natural sound. It's similar to the sound in the room v studio Mic,d sound of guitar modellers. The two arnt the same, there arrived at at different points. One is natural the other is captured by a mix, processed and sculpted to fit a mix. Samples used for non v piano sound from all manufacturers are captured with A (or more than 1) Mic which instantly changes it from what the ear hears directly from the piano. Neither are bad, but they are different. If you want the sound on a recording, or through a pa live then sampled tones will be closer. If you want the narural sound of apiano, then the rds v piano based sounds are as close as you can get without a real acoustic piano.

@thatmidlifevlogger4463

5 жыл бұрын

I use krk... Nice

@C-R-A-T-E

5 жыл бұрын

Kennedy Muzyamba korg kronos 2 is the board that as leading the market

@robertmichalscheck3072

5 жыл бұрын

Straight Talk had the same effect, a quick fix would be a return if you still can.

I looked at this and the Yamaha modx8 not only did the Roland sound better but the key action felt fantastic completed with a real wood overlay on the keys compared to the plastic feel of the Yamaha I was so impressed I decided to wait and just save up for the phantom which is on whole new level competing with the Yamaha Genos for 2k less

@gatonegropeludon

Жыл бұрын

Well i think it is not a fair comparision, RD2000 goes against Yamaha CP88, that would be a fair comparission...

Essaf, I totally understand you, here's a good suggestion to consider, try to check the Nord Stage, the series has amazing acoustic piano sounds... But very expensive.

It appears you are having a prior sound liking. The new sounds from RD2000 sound better. It may take time.

I notice that the 2000 is subdued and seems like it doesn't ring like a grand piano.. Of course you are very familiar with your sound.

@labigator

4 жыл бұрын

PIANOSTYLE100 it’s not a real piano. And it’s not a sample of a real sound. For an engineered sound these are effin fantastic.

@slapmyfunkybass

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with you on this, it does have a dull sound to it.

@PIANOSTYLE100

3 жыл бұрын

@@slapmyfunkybassJust saw your comment. Play the base too..but never could get as good a slap bass as I wanted. Just technique. Love Wooten's style.

Great review, thank you!

I bought the RD-2000 and am less than impressed with the piano sounds. Does anyone know if it has the SRX-11 Complete Piano sounds? I am used to the 1st sound called Superb Grand.

I’m a totally blind song write, trying to find the right piano to hook up to my computer. I was checking this one out, so thank you for playing it so we could hear it. I agree with you; I hate the piano sounds in it. Is there any piano, with weighted keys, that you do recommend? I’d love one with a good flute and brass sound section. No one ever seems to play that part of the board. Also looking for 88 keys.

@MangoldProject

4 жыл бұрын

Nord Stage 3 and Kawai MP11SE are both excellent. The Kawai doesn't have very good non-piano sounds. Stage 3 is a better all-rounder.

I get it... You turn on a stage piano, you expect a quality sound that you don't have to work for - that's exactly how I feel about navigating extensive pages of banks just to painstakingly achieve what the rd2000 can simply accomplish. I currently own an aging rd700, I am excited about the Roland axial extensions - I've noticed all six of them, one of which includes a history of previous RD's including my current 700 - if I was ever spoiled on stereo sampled acoustic pianos, here is my Elixir for that! Bottom line, I have an insatiable desire for the RD 2000 and its [unlimited polyphonic] potential with the revolutionary V-piano engine. Just thinking about all the scenes I can create; the zones and layers I can allocate, effects and parameters I can explore with each tone and a one-touch recall, the unmatched hammer action... And it's master controller... I'm sold!!

@MangoldProject

6 жыл бұрын

When I turn on a Steinway D I don't have to fine tune anything, it sounds awesome right outside the box :) Yes, the RD2000 can download and play the RD700GX and RD700NX pianos (not sure about the original RD700 or RD700SX). If it works for you and sounds good then go for it. I was just trying to put my opinion out there for other players to notice before putting down their cash.

@MrJFoxProductions

6 жыл бұрын

MangoldProject Thank you for the insight - ironically, I do think that Roland was too good at hyping the RD-2000 and a clarifying opinion such as yours is in fact needed - not everybody will be comfortable with a 'modeled' sound "right out the box" and need to be made aware. I appreciate that! As for myself, I've analyzed all the pros, and the few cons, and am emphatically settled with my decision to purchase👍, knowing exactly what I have to expect from the RD-2000. Good news - The axial website does feature the extensions for the old RD 500, 600, and 700 [RD-EXP 01] along with it's 'SX' versions [RD-EXP 02 & RD-EXP 03]. 🎆

@ReTracer

6 жыл бұрын

MangoldProject The Steinway sound comes from an enormous amount of skill from the engineers and piano technicians that craft the instrument after it has been constructed. Two different technicians will produce a completely different sound from the same piano. A great technician will adjust the piano to suit an individual player. It is a professional instrument, which is just how Roland have approached this stage piano. It requires some TLC and time and you will be able to get out of it sounds that are perfect for you.

@shiggins9

Жыл бұрын

​@@MrJFoxProductions Did you ever find the SRX-11 piano sounds? I hope this RD-2000 can do that. I'm either going to sell my RD-700 w SRX-11 or my RD-2000!

This is exactly why everyone says Piano sounds are a matter of taste... I also own RD2000. Nice playing by the way. I was so intrigued by your opinion that I downloaded the 1.5 update and all 6 EXP libraries. Before I retort, its worth highlighting you are comparing a basic sample playback (not even SuperNatural) to a supposedly Physically Modelled Piano. A difficult comparison to make. Having forgotten which GX Piano sound you like, I tried them all. I rejected 7GX ExpressiveGrd because it plays as if its COMP and distorted to me...ie intentionally BOOMY to cut through other sounds live. This is listening via Bose QC10 headphones. I thought the GX Grand Piano and GX Clear Grand were superior to the one you like and these are SuperNatural. But none of these 3 is as good as 7NX ConcertGrand which also come with that expansion. Interestingly, the factory presets on the RD2000 include SN007 NX Concert Grand which in my opinion is EXACTLY the same as the latter that comes with the EXP04 above. Similarly, I believe the GX pianos are already in the factory Studio patches to some extent... for example 0034 Studio Grand is midway between 7GX Grand Piano and 7GX Clear Grand. Admittedly I did not find a close or exact match for the 7GX ExpressivGrd in the basic, non SuperNatural presets. The closest perhaps was 0019 St. Piano1. Now back to the physical modelled sounds.... My opinion when I sit down and use any of the MD piano presets is that I am playing a real instrument. Ive heard others describe this sensation as inspiring and hard to leave the board. You want to just keep playing. With the samples however, even my personal favourite NX preset, eventually I grow tired and find it uninspiring. However I agree that the converse can also be true. Eventually the MD pianos seem to lack REAL Character, even if they are inspiring instruments. They simply are not Pianos! For this reason, I found that by combining S10 Aco Grand4, a physically modelled patch, with 0007 NX Concert Grand, a SN hybrid patch, I have arrived at what I consider an unbeatable sound. I mix these in the zone edit section by giving 105 volume to the MD engine and the full 127 volume to the SN engine ti balance them up. The result is a pleasing slightly-detuned effect because although very close (possibly models and samples of the same real piano ROLAND?) the different engines are not lining up perfectly and thus adding bags of character... I then also added extra reverb and delay to the resulting sound and the result is magic!

so what is your recommendation for the best piano sound digital piano? thanks

@slapmyfunkybass

3 жыл бұрын

jok mong Yamaha Modx

This is my second comment. I originally watched this as an investigation of the little sister of this product, the FP-30 purchased about 2 years or so ago. I was considering "buying up" to get a better sound with the 2000. I don't need gee whiz gadgetry, only a great piano sound in a compact unit. My complaint with the FP-30 was not the key action, or other functionality of the product, but the sound. I found the sound to be very awkward in certain ranges. After finally downloading a frequency app, I was able to determine the reason why. I was able to get an accurate frequency lock on every key, EXCEPT for C3 through C5. While this range of keys is off only slightly (and probably within the range allow to be called "in tune"), when striking keys in combination that may be sharp on one and flat on the other, it is definitely noticeable. I contacted Roland but was not able to get anyone to recognize I had a problem. To be fair, my voice messages to the closest repair shop were not returned, although I really doubt my unit can be "fixed". While not an expert, I think the sample piano was just not properly in tune when the recordings were made. Imagine my surprise when I took my app to the piano store and tested the 2000 on display after this discovery. It has the same issue! Each key from and including C3 through C5 did not have a frequency lock. Maybe this is somehow on purpose? Maybe this is an issue of an older display model that has subsequently been addressed? I am still looking for a replacement and have identified another piano I want to buy, aided by another video outlining products to consider on this channel. The lesson I learned from this is do not buy a piano based on what it sounds like in a noisy piano store! I used three different apps and my own ears, so I am confident of my testing results. If you see some strange guy in a store testing a piano before buying, it may well be me, and you will know why!

Maybe the EQ of my speaker setup is very nice cause I abso loved all the sounds you made with ur Roland. It sounds way better than my old Casio Privia

What kind of external sound system do you play through?

@MangoldProject

5 жыл бұрын

Two Rokit 6" active monitors. Also use DT770 and AKG240 mk2 headphones.

Where did you download the rd 700 GX voice ?

@MangoldProject

6 жыл бұрын

You can download both the RD700GX and RD700NX pianos in the Roland Axial website: axial.roland.com/category/rd-2000/

Keyscape? I'm getting ready to install it on my laptop, MIDI from my 2008 RD-700GX to a PreSonus Studio 24C. Hope it sounds as awesome as video reviews. Waiting to see about my next work assignment overseas and torn between the Kawai ES920 and Roland FP-90X. Might cheap out and go a less expensive and lighter DP. My 700GX is too heavy to ship overseas with the current shipping costs which means the FP-90X is in that same heavy category. At least shipping over is free with a new one so I need to factor that as well. Ok, on to installing Keyscape.

Yeah I don't like the main piano sound either. I prefer the RD800's sounds, mellow concert in particular. Even then sometimes I think I should've bought a Nord when it comes to sound. Overall it's great though, the touch is good and it works well as a synthesizer

I only test pianos using professional headphones. If I can't easily tweak the sound to my liking while wearing headphones, I will certainly not buy the piano. Perhaps I'm less critical than you, but I'm quite happy with my RD2000.

@MangoldProject

6 жыл бұрын

Hi Dave. I'm happy you're happy with your RD2000. I've tested it with a pair of good headphones in the store (AKG240), and my gut feeling told me to rethink it, but I was too much of a Roland fanboy to listen to it. Definitely a mistake on my part, and I hope to at least give potential buyers something to pay attention to before they put down their hard earned cash. If they don't mind it - by all means, they should go ahead and buy.

I was thinking of "upgrading" from my $600 Yamaha P-105 to the RD-2000. Went to the Guitar Center and was pretty disappointed with what sounded digitized (though, to be fair, I did no tweaking) I was happy to get back to my Yamaha P-105 which IMO pretty much "nails" the sound of a very nice grand piano because of a great sample! Assaf, I wondered if you have ever tried the Yamaha CP-88?

@MangoldProject

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, tried it at GuitarCenter on 14th street in Manhattan one day while I was visiting NYC. Pretty good. It's hard to go wrong with almost any model from a respectable manufacturer these days (Yamaha, Nord, Roland, Kawai, Korg, Casio). I'm eyeing the Nord Stage 3 myself, but will probably do some comparisons in the upcoming weeks.

@ThePianoMan1953

4 жыл бұрын

@@MangoldProject I just happened to come across this comparison on KZread. kzread.info/dash/bejne/nKuNo9hulrG7otI.html I hope you find it helpful. By the way, I'm a huge admirer of you and your expertise! Thanks for all you do. You deserve a great keyboard!! ;-)

Go to the"tone desiner" > "piano desiner" and change the "character" from 0 to -2 and you'l be happy! Trust me! (It making it mellow like nord imperial grand (bossendorfer) sound) you can play with "character" value to your liking i found -2 (on my RD 800) the best sound value. Hop its helped. 😁

@stevearcade

4 жыл бұрын

^ This!

@cwhyles

4 жыл бұрын

This parameter is not available for the modelled pianos, only Supernatural ones.

In my opinion I don't hear what you are hearing sir. But if you strongly feel that way its your opinion it's not a fact. I like every piano you played. Maybe you have the wrong amp. Try playing it through a QSC or XV monitors you will have a different perspective. No such thing as better it's all preference.

Did it take 4 months to see the piano sound is not good? Respect your opinion though.

Is this built in speaker?

*Listening to chord progressions* Yeah ... like ... horrible. *wiping tear* Can ... can I hear that one part again, where you played all of these piano things?

@traumtrager129

6 жыл бұрын

yeah, I wanna what song it is

@shivaranjanmenon1543

6 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣true that...me too!

@MangoldProject

6 жыл бұрын

It's an improvisation. Sorry guys :) But wipe away those tears and subscribe to the channel and you'll learn all sorts of tricks that will help you sound like that! ;)

You don't like the RD2000 because the stage piano sound isn't to your liking? You can modify all the sounds to your liking if you bother to make the effort. There are two sound engines in the RD2000 and only one of them is based on modelling; the other, sampling from the RD800. Your argument is weak and an appalling reason for damning the product.

@robertmichalscheck3072

5 жыл бұрын

Shouldn’t have to be an “effort”to tweak the sounds,what a bunch of bull.

@musikone1780

5 жыл бұрын

@@robertmichalscheck3072 It's not much of an "effort" to tweak the sounds to your liking on this board. It's REALLY simple.

Hi what is it you don't like really about it does it have good Wurlitzer piano sounds on it.

@MangoldProject

5 жыл бұрын

I explain what I dislike in the video (hollow mid-range). e-pianos on it are great.

Why don't you recommend buying the RD-2000 and then download the RD-700 piano sound as you did?

I agree with you... I enjoy my old Roland FP-4 and FP-7F to this day, but was disappointed with the FP-80 (poor mid range piano sound, and lousy "ambient" reverb). I guess Roland has had a change of sound designers in the interim that carries on to this day. Did you find the keyboard action to be somewhat noisy?... it seems to stand out in your video.

@MangoldProject

6 жыл бұрын

The keys are great and not noisy. They probably stand out because I left the vocal mic track while playing the piano (you see my vocal mic sticking out in the video).

@andreaschristodoulou4274

6 жыл бұрын

to make piano sound good and convincing to our ear it need time for recording, editing and so on it takes lot of money and time

It's all rather subjective and difficult to judge on line. I would say that Roland's modelling method was probably the best digital piano around at one time. Perhaps it will grow on you! I have a HP 507 and what certainly makes a huge difference is the design of the amps and speakers in combination with the sound. It's a different experience to playing a keyboard.

Could you compare yamaha p515 vs roland fp 90 please? I am interesting with their sound, touch, specialities. Bye the way price is not problem between of both pianos. Thanks.

@MangoldProject

5 жыл бұрын

I don't really own any of them, so unfortunately I cannot compare them. I've played the FP90 and was underwhelmed by the soud for the same reasons as I was underwhelmed by the RD2000.

He's right. But I was able to dig deep on it and get it to where I wanted. I use it for classical and they aren't classical sounding pianos- but rather jazzy thin new age fluff. I had to really EQ it. I may do what you did, Mangold, and go grab some sounds to import. Another problem is that the pianos are EXCRUCIATINGLY quiet. Compared to other instrument types on the RD-2000, which will blow you away volume-wise if you switch to them.

I don’t know what it is.... but my RD-2000 just doesn’t sound like this.....even worse. Do you use different tone designer settings or anything?

@MangoldProject

5 жыл бұрын

You mean your RD2000 sounds worse than what you hear in this video?

@aukevanderplas4742

5 жыл бұрын

MangoldProject yes maybe its the settings, I just don’t know

MG - I do appreciate your lesions and simple approach to teaching, but MG I think you are missing something or maybe I am missing some frequency ranges in my hearing. I believe the RD-2000 is going to be a legendary keyboard. Roland has not fallen asleep with this unit as it has just come out with an OS upgrade that has added a number of new sounds taken from their long history of RD keyboards. Plus, the RD enables me to quickly and easily run my favorite software program Keyscape into this great feeling key.

I'm no expert, but when I bought the RD2000 I had set out to buy the very best in this budget and everything pointed to the RD2000. The salesman in the shop said for best sound quality stick with Roland. I do in a way feel the points raised against the RD2000 are accurate. I just play at home but I wanted the best sound my budget could buy. I use Yamaha HS7s and I have to say, none of the piano sounds have really wowed me. They sound good but not awesome. But I have never used the tone designer or messed with the settings to improve the sound....yet. Before the RD2000 I owned two Yamaha clavinova pianos and I hated the sound of both which was the reason I switched over to Roland.

Can someone tell me if there is a function that will tell me what chord i am playing on the screen?

@MattnUska

5 ай бұрын

If you are using a DAW you can see the chord. Specifically I know Logic does. I'm not sure of others. I don't think there is a way on the keyboard itself.

Also....your channel is great....thank you for your efforts.

It's interesting that what you don't like are the V-Piano sounds, judging them to be too "boomy" compared to non-physically modeled pianos. V-Piano models all of the sympathetic resonances between the strings and the soundboard, and the mutual resonances between the strings, even when damped, because these are the resonances found in a real piano. Non-physically modeled pianos are very limited in "faking" these resonances, since their base samples have each string in isolation, and may sound dryer. Perhaps there's a way to dial down these resonances on the V-Piano module?

It’s got the Rd 1000 piano sound. How could you not like it.

Sounds great and you are good player too. I can't understand why you don't like it 🤔😁😁

Your ex piano gx700 was it?sounded way better I think...

@MangoldProject

5 жыл бұрын

Yep.

Your video highlights a point I’ve been saying for years. Once a player gets to a certain level in their playing ability, they will know what they’re after. It’s not one is bad and the other good, only what’s right for them. Many well established Classical or Jazz players will only play a particular brand of grand piano, that’s not to say the others are bad, just what’s right for them. Saying that, I do agree with you here. I think it has a dull sound to it and doesn’t have a nice ring when in the higher register. Also, many people on here have said you need to adjust the settings, if you need to do that to make it sound good, then your point is completely valid.

@MangoldProject

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with you 100%. And EQ will only take away frequencies - you cannot polish a turd, as the saying goes. Not that this piano is a turd (it's quite ok), but you cannot, for example, EQ a Steinway into a Bosendorfer. Nor can you "tweak" the RD2000 to sound like a good piano. At least, that's my 2 cents. Or 250000 cents, considering I've bought the RD2000 :).

@slapmyfunkybass

3 жыл бұрын

MangoldProject I think you’re right. There’s a video on YT somewhere where someone compares the 2000 to a a Steinway and the difference is really noticeable. The Steinway sounds so bright and alive, the 2000 just sounds mechanical. I actually think the rd700 series and fa08 sound a lot better than the 2000. I don’t know what grand piano Roland used for their sample, but poor choice.

Hi again , I bought the rd 2000 one year ago and have the same feeling about the piano sounds they are not good! meanwhile i purchasad the new GERMAN CLASSIC expantion and it is a game changer !! I am sure roland will take care all rd 2000 users and will refresh us with new updating , there is not still a better stage piano on the market never forget the importance of the hardwere built and the keybads quality for real pianist , the rd 2000 give us the best chois on this essue , If anyone discovered somthing new about the rd 2000 please let everybody know!

The RD 2000 is a perfect Masterkeyboard for VSTs and external sound souces. And then you can play a Bechstein , Steinway etc. on a higher. acoustic level than any other build in sound.

1) Does it have PORTAMENTO function? 2) does it have HAMMOND sound? and can we manage it with BARS? 3) how can we put WAH WAH Efect to CLAV sound?

@MangoldProject

4 жыл бұрын

1. Yes. 2. Yes and yes. 3. If you asking IF you can do that, the answer is yes. If HOW, then just look it up in the manual.

@mrsoulpoint

4 жыл бұрын

@@MangoldProject Thank you very very much

@mrsoulpoint

4 жыл бұрын

@@MangoldProject Some has just told me that there is no portamento function on RD 2000. How can i learn this actually?

@MangoldProject

4 жыл бұрын

Just open the manual. It's available online for free at the Roland website in PDF format.

All due respect as I listen and have learned a lot from your tutorials. I’ve had the Roland RD 2000 for about two weeks now. Initially purchasing the much heralded Korg SV2 for three days before returning and swapping it out. I love the acoustic pianos in this instrument. Firstly the fact that unlike some sample based instruments, it has unlimited polyphony. The action is the best I’ve come across on a stage piano. Back to the sounds, there are such a varied amount of both acoustic and electric piano sounds that I’ve yet to step through and play them all. The sonic variables available for tweaking under the hood also allows for personalization of your sound as well. While true that there are some piano sounds some will not have use for nor find appealing, I find the Concert Grand, and Deep Grand sounds to be very appealing, but would probably EQ the Stage Grand sound somewhat. This is a very enjoyable instrument to play, so much so that Im finding myself playing it more than my Kimball baby grand.

@MangoldProject

3 жыл бұрын

I'm glad this worked for you, and wish you many more years of enjoyment out of your RD2000.

I have exactly, precisely the same opinion of my RD-800. I have spent countless hours trying to tweak the eq and virtually every other setting on the board. And I still have that same "crappy" acoustic piano sound. I admit to not having a deep technical knowledge of mixing, etc. But, still, should the dry settings sound like a $100 Casio? I don't think so. I have to believe there is a solution setting to bring the Acoustic Piano sounds up to grade, but honestly I can't find it.

@MangoldProject

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks. It's just the way it is. The RD2000 and RD800 have a basic characteristic sound which cannot be altered by EQ. It's just like a Bosendorfer can't be turned in to a Steinway with EQ. If you don't like it, sell it and get something you do like!

@selftrue670

6 жыл бұрын

Believe me, I am not splitting hairs here. Mine is not a comparison between a Bosendorfer and a Steinway. It's more like a comparison between [any] grand piano and a child's toy.

@chaddonal4331

6 жыл бұрын

MangoldProject A mere $40-200k can open up a number of Steinway or Bosendorfer options!

I agree with the reviewer the piano sounds too digital. Anyone have any recommendations? Thanks

@MangoldProject

5 жыл бұрын

Kawai MP11, Nord Stage are two of my favorites.

It's very subjective matter indeed. Personally I prefer the darker sound of a Bosendorfer to any other kind...other people legitimately think the opposite. Anyway the beauty of samplers is that you can solve the problem simply by changing the sample, and eventually you will find "your" sound.

What speakers you use ?

@MangoldProject

6 жыл бұрын

Currently using the Mackie MRMk3 6.5 inch active monitors.

I hear this the same way as you do. The old RD 700-Sound is much more like a real piano. If Roland come out with a new piano the main pianosound should be better than the old one. Thanks for posting.

I actually agree with you. I was watching a demo of this keyboard elsewhere on KZread and I thought, wow, this piano sounds boring. It's something I find with a lot of (if not all) digital pianos except for maybe Nord and Kurzweil (and Kronos, but that's a workstation)

you can use EQ to "unbox" the sound... eq is a prefference... but the 700gx sound has indeed interesting richness into the high register..

@MangoldProject

5 жыл бұрын

As I've learned through experience, you can't polish a ...

I read your review and appreciate objectiveness. I have spent the past 6 months trying to find a piano that fit my needs and would prefer an acoustic model, but price, physical size, etc. limited my options. Of the pianos that I tried, I liked the Korg SV1, the Yamaha CP4, and the Roland RD2000. The SV1 was great overall and so immediate, but the acoustic pianos were a little less than real than I expected. The CP4 pianos sounded fantastic and the action was really nice. I just couldn't get past the cheap build quality. It just does not feel like a $2000+ instrument to me, it felt more like $700 to $800 and I was concerned about durability over time. The RD2000 has great build quality, an action that feels like a good acoustic, nice features and so many options to tailor the sound that I bought it. I understand that the sound is not to your liking but there are so many settings that it is hard to imagine not being able to adjust one of the presets to your liking. I have not listened critically to all of the presets but casually a dozen or more people have heard it and all commented that it sounded fantastic and were surprised it is a modeled instrument. If you liked the RD700 this should be a reasonable upgrade. I would love to help you, but am not clear on what exactly you don't like about the sound. If you can describe specifically what you are hearing or not hearing that would be a great start. Maybe start with what Piano sound available is closest to your preference.

@slapmyfunkybass

3 жыл бұрын

go away Seems like he was right, kzread.info/dash/bejne/eHaIy66YiMm7p7Q.html

@slapmyfunkybass

2 жыл бұрын

@@duketranslucent3rd That’s the person’s username. Wow, how dim can someone be.

@slapmyfunkybass

2 жыл бұрын

@@duketranslucent3rd Says the person accusing me of being a 10 year old. Lol at you deleting your first comment, you really must have felt silly.

I can see why Brian Culbertson went back to his RD800 for his current tour. Does sound a little weak.😕

I am not really concerned about the built in sounds personally. Keyscape makes it hard to use anything else.

Did you sale your rD - 2000?

@MangoldProject

5 жыл бұрын

Not yet, but it's coming.

may want to check eq or velocity of notes you're playing.. but I understand though. the piano on any board I play have to hit to my standard

@MangoldProject

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's a matter of taste. I've played around with EQ quite a bit, but it just doesn't cut it. It's very personal, though.

I love your performance!

The sound does lack boldness and richness. I hope you find something you like the relationship between the artist and his instrument is very important.

is just a matter of taste, isn't it? and if you EQ it snd tweak it a little bit maybe you find your perfect piano sound. i have not try Rd2000 yet, but with mi FA08 i had to do the same thing, to match my taste.

@MangoldProject

6 жыл бұрын

The FA08 uses sampling. I think it uses the samples found in the RD700NX.

The sound each of us hear is subjective.. a particular piano may sound good to me and bad to some and could be the other way around.. if you are used to the sound of your previous piano, then you could be having a biased opinion with your new one, take some time with your new keyboard, play it and listen at its sound for a while.. you will see that it doesn't sound that bad at all.

Hello, can u organize all of ur piano lesson videos in one playlist from beginner like ur quickie series to the advanced lessons such as the jazz lessons part 5 and your reharmonizing video. and another separate for other videos unrelated to piano theory such as this vid, the how do you record your videos and encouragement videos. I would really appreciate it if your lessons are in sequence, im sure lots of ur subscribers like me will like it very much too, thanks

Sounds good to me. I think it's just personal taste. The Rd700 sound just seems to be a different eq. If you can adjust the tone/eq of the RD2000 piano you should be able to get it to sound the same as the RD700. Tbh if you are looking for a certain tone, i would go midi rout. Sell the rd2000, get a really good midi piano and use Kontakt or such like. Im fussy on tone of the piano, so i use midi piano's. I can have access to a vast array of piano sounds this way. I can even layer sounds to get a certain tone.

I love my rd2000 it is the best sound for me I have other boards but this one is the best better than Yamaha Modx8-Kong krome ex88-FA07

@MangoldProject

2 жыл бұрын

That's what's cool about music: Everyone has their own taste!

Beautiful music Love Roland thanks dziękuję 👍👍👍👍

What about Yamaha ?

This is the first negative review of this instrument I've heard. I have two of them and like them, but the boxy quality in the pianos is definitely there. Designing my own helped significantly, as well as messing with the fully parametric eq, rolling off around 250HZ. Otherwise, I love the instrument.

@MangoldProject

6 жыл бұрын

Most people who buy a product have a very hard time admitting (out loud) they don't like something about it, because they think it reflects poorly on them and their buying choices. I don't particularly care how it reflects on me, and I think I owe potential buyers a fair warning and perhaps to encourage them to think twice before putting down money for the instrument.

@ullicao

6 жыл бұрын

could you pass me the parameters eq that you use?

@selftrue670

6 жыл бұрын

Me too please. I'm in the same boat.

I have been wanting to try the Roland RD2000 ever since it first came out. I got my wish this week. I was very underwhelmed by the whole thing. Like you, I thought the Stage Piano very weak and uninspiring. I have owned several RD boards with my last one being the 700NX. I have since discovered the Korg Grandstage DP which, in sound, I believe blows RD2000 out of the water. Just my opinion though.

@MangoldProject

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I agree it sounds better. Action is kind of meh, honestly. But it seems like we can't have it all :). Maybe the Kawai MP11SE - haven't tried that one yet!

@ferdearmas8732

5 жыл бұрын

Totally agree with you MangoldProject... IMHO, even the plastics Kawai RH triple sensor actions, surpasses the Roland PHA-50. Who else agrees?...

I think the same as some other comments; use once other speakers of headphone, because this sounds tinny.On the other hand: I have all the RD pianos in possession and the differences or improvements in sound are, indeed, not always spectaculair, but the increased polyphony of the RD 2000 makes him more interesting.

@MangoldProject

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks JW. I've played this through an AKG 240 mk2 and DT770, and through Rokit KRK6 and Mackie HR6 active monitors in two different acoustic environments. It just doesn't cut it for me.

There is an entire V-piano in it!For that allone i would buy this.

Interesting to hear you complain it is "boomy". When I tried pianos in the nearest shop I could get to I tried Kawai, Yamaha, Korg and Nord. But I bought the Roland because it was the only one I thought I could hear a soundboard on. All the others sounded thin and reedy. I like the sound of this one too. All a matter of choice I suppose.

@MangoldProject

3 жыл бұрын

Indeed it is. Enjoy your purchase!

I agree. It is well known amongst pros that Roland's piano sounds are weird and artificial. I have a bunch of different keyboards (RD800, Kawai MP11SE, Ravenscroft (PC), Yamaha SX5 acoustic grand) and have tested these issues with Roland sounds, including on the FP90 which is same gen as RD2000 although RD2000 has additional sound chip options. Also, you will see a few online reviewers have identified issues with Roland's piano sounds, e.g. AZpianoblogspot. A lot of magazine reviews simply can't hear these issues which says a lot about their expertise as reviewers. Issues are: bad stretch tuning curve (eg by comparison to normal ranges for concert instruments), uneven or simply weird tone colours (metallic/harsh) vs nearby keys and lack of decay/reverb to make the sound 'sing'. These can be improved a bit by customizing the sound (Roland give no advice on how to do this) however basically you are polishing a t^rd and can only achieve a moderate improvement. Comparison of the sound (on genelec monitors) of say FP90 concert piano vs FP90 used as midi controller to run Ravenscroft is VAST. I have done this many times, blind testing on different players or listeners. The poster is a good pianist and many of the people giving him a hard time are (on average) probably unlikely to be at the same level.

@MangoldProject

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks James. To each his/her own ...

I think Roland makes the best digital pianos in the world by far!! I love the RD line!!

Shoot the reason I bought this thing was because of the piano sounds. You can’t get those classic RD 1000 electric pianos and modify them on any other keyboard.

@MangoldProject

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's true. The RD2000 has a lot going for it. If you like the acoustic piano sound then you should be golden.

Looking for a new board been watching comparison videos all day and you’re right the 2000 doesn’t sound right. Yamaha has better acoustic piano sound to my ears.

I had the RD-700, Rd-800 and then I purchased one of the first RD-2000 arrived in Italy. Well I'm definitely satisfied by the keyboard mechanic, by EPs sound, and if not fully satisfied by APs I still believe those are amongst the best on the market, far better than Korg, Yamaha, KAWAI, Kurtz and Nord of course. Edit July 2018: I just update the OS to the latest version and added two of the piano libraries downloaded from AXIAL in the two available virtual slots. What I got are a lot more useful and imploved sounds.

@MangoldProject

6 жыл бұрын

Awesome, I'm glad you found a piano that you like.

@shiggins9

Жыл бұрын

I just got the RD-2000 this week. I've been playing the RD-700 w SRX-11 card for 19 years. I will download some sounds to see what pianos can be added. Thanks for the tip.