Crazy use case, I am actually considering it for OHP in the basement. I have 56" between my J cups on the side of the rack and currently using a Texas Squat Bar. I actually like the thicker bars in my OHP or bench. Glad you got it and it didn't disappoint!

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

I'd go with a real camber bar which would be cheaper, and work better!

Appreciate the Shout-out. Glad we got those working in time, (not that it was much of a rush before those bars started shipping). Although its not really much of an innovation, Im glad to see more options available for the consumer. However, I would be cautious with Kabukis finishes, having had 8 bars from them now, only 3 have come out with a great finish. My big worry with the CB-4 would be grip strain on such a thick girthy shaft.

@davidozimec9303

2 жыл бұрын

I bought two of your custom J-Cup holders for the Kabuki and the CB-4 and they are excellent!

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

Remote work FTW!

@adrianlee2780

Жыл бұрын

Wow I didn’t know Kabuki QA quality is this bad - only 3 good out of 8 😅😅😅!! Ok I am definitely going with Rogue CB-4 than Kabuki Duffalo bar then

Long, black, thick and a little bit curved. Just like brandon likes it.

@bmstylee

2 жыл бұрын

Giggidy

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

hey now

@Legendaryrichelieu

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

You know what can’t be killed? The one of a kind Transformer bar you’ve yet to make a video on.

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

Soon

@brandonhoover2120

2 жыл бұрын

@@BasementBrandon Don’t go get my hopes up.

Thanks for getting out your first impression quickly! I have been interested in this bar, but the truth is I don’t need it because thankfully, my shoulder issues haven’t impeded my squats for years. Btw, you’ve never looked smaller behind a bar than you do with that thing. No slight, it’s just the size is quite obvious on camera and it wouldn’t even fit in frame most of the video! Crazy

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

If I really want to feel small I go and watch the Arnold competition where this was used to see how I stack up against the world's strongest men lol.

My favourtie bar for squatting. (I can't low bar squat with a squat for long before my elbows light up) And I used to train all the time the Duffalo. The extra aggressive knurling with the bar biting into your shirt/suit combined with the extra thickness make it WAY MORE STABLE on your back -- and results in bigger squats and more quality sets at that load.

@BasementBrandon

3 ай бұрын

It’s a great bar!

Received my bar this weekend. Just to share based on feedback Brandon provided. I think Rouge responded to the packaging issues. Mine was packed in the same style but with extra reinforced ends and what seemed like more packaging around the bar. They even had make shift handles on the package to make it easier to move around for my poor UPS driver. I agree that the finish is not as nice as my other Rouge bars but to me looks nice. I was worried a bit with all the high intensity close ups. I am picky but maybe my expectations were a bit lowered based on feedback - so I was happy with how it looks. The sleeves are not flared up at exactly the same rate. It is nowhere to the level of Brandon's bar but it is not perfect. Its about 3/4" on one side and maybe an 1" on the other side. Maybe not even that much. You can kind of tell when it is on the ground but not noticeable to me in the rack. For me given the thickness of the bar I can live with this slight difference. I'm not sure if other Buffalo bars also have this challenge. Bottom line I love mine. It was really comfortable on my back and I just think the thing is cool! Here is to hoping I can get 3 plates on it at some point! That is my dream goal for an older new lifter!

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

appreciate the feedback! I got my replacement in and also noticed more tape on the ends, the foam disc, and more staples overall. Biggest change I saw though was the finish of my bar was now matte where before it was shiny!

Appreciate the first impressions. For me, I think I’m pulling the trigger on rogues SS squat bar, over this.

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

One of my favorite bars!

Great review on that bar Brandon! I've been on the fence on if I really need a cambered bar at all but let's face it I'll get one eventually. cheers!

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

Hah yeah I think if you have a SSB already this is prob overkill, but overkill can be very enjoyable lol.

Rouge definitely needs to step up their packaging. I had to send a rackable curl bar back before due to damage during shipping. I've had others arrive with damaged packaging but the bars were ok. I bought some beater bars from York Barbell, about half the price of any Rouge bar, and they put more care into the packaging than Rouge ever has. Protective end caps, foam around the collars, etc.. While I'm still a huge fan of Rouge, I expect more when spending $300 dollars and up for a bar. It's sucks having to send shit back! Thanks for the video. Love the channel.

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

I do think they need to improve as well, I do believe part of the blame is on the shipping company and handling it, but Rogue should know by now the bar is going to be mishandled and should account for it on their end.

The fact you do these in one take is 👏🏻👏🏻

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

Prob why they're all over the place lol

Hey Brandon thanks for this great review. You do an awesome Job with your reviews. I too bad that the finish on the bar is not on par with the Kabuki. I'm still waiting for mine. I look forward to hearing your thoughts after some time of use.

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

I still think it's a great bar, I just think they could have made it a little more aesthetic (or a different finish).

@Jeff-rn4be

2 жыл бұрын

@@BasementBrandon Ah I see good to hear. Hopefully they'll see your review and up their game next time. Either way, like you said, it will get the job done.

Another great review! Got more of a general question - having garbage shoulders (2 shoulder surgeries) my go-to bar for squats is my old Elitefts SSB (it used to be called their spider yoke or something like that). It's old, it's heavy (80lbs) but it does the job well enough. Would the CB-4 feel more like a traditional back squat or does it pitch you forward like an SSB? When I train for a meet, moving back to a traditional bar takes several weeks before my shoulders get some flexibility/mobility back. Wondering if it would be a quicker transition with a cambered bar.

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

It still puts the weights more forward than a traditional back squat. I think a SSB might be more manipulatable since you can push the handles up or down to change the position.

I just received my bar yesterday and it was packed so well it took me a huge chunk of time to get bar out. So far I'm extremely impressed. I had lusted after the Kabuki but couldn't justify the added cost. I'm very impressed with the bar so far. Honestly, after seeing it in person I'm surprised it doesn't cost more.

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome, I had mine replaced and it seems they def took some of the feedback on packaging!

@espcustom

2 жыл бұрын

@@BasementBrandon Are you finally keeping it Brandon ? seems like I recall having you saying somewhere that you would perhaps get rid of it ?

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

@@espcustom they made me an offer I couldn't refuse

I ordered mine on April 20th. Hopefully is comes soon in good condition. Thanks for the review

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Will!

@skibmbp

2 жыл бұрын

You can check what I just replied for mine. It came with no issue and love it!

How do you work the Buffalo style bars into your training? Just to mix it up or do you actually prefer it to straight bar squat/bench?

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

I usually use it as a variation. I squat 2-3x per week in most cases so will use it on one of those days.

Interesting, really good review. Now I just need to decide between this style bar and an SSB... maybe both...

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

I think if I had to pick one I'd go SSB first... but I have both obviously :)

Does this bar pitch you forward like an Ssb? Looking to get one to replace my rogue Ssb because I just want a more natural squat motion. (Just a fatfcuk with bad mobility). Would it be worth replacing? Thoughts?

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

The weight tends to be out in front more than a normal backsquat b/c of the camber. Sounds like maybe a marrs bar may be more up your alley.

Hey Brandon. I hope you had a nice thanksgiving. I picked up the kabuki PR deadlift bar on black Friday. Black oxide . I'm really excited and I wanted to thank you for your assistance and advice on which one would be best for me . Now If I may I would like to ask you the same about the duffalo and CB4 . Now that you have had time with the CB4 do you find that the girth is a bit too much , specifically for.presses ? And is the fact that the duffalo flips in rack a big deal or is it easy to turn just like the Kadillac bar ? Again , if money is not an issue which would you purchase now with your insight on said bars ? If it's the duffalo I can pick up the black oxide today with the cyber Monday discount before they're gone. Ok Brandon. Thank you for all your help . You're the best ! P.S The discount always feels good but even at full price it would not prevent me from purchasing. Ah , so much equipment to torment myself with .lol

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Hey James. The bars are pretty similar in use. I don't find the 38mm to be too big. Regardless of which bar you get, they do have a propensity to flip. I've found using blocks (duffalo or cb4) to be the best (but unfortunately most expensive) solution. In terms of which bar I'd suggest, it really could go either way. I find I use my CB4 more, but I would have no issues using the Duffalo instead. I think it comes down to total cost to you, lead times, and who you'd rather support.

Great review B. Any issues with the cb4 sliding or possibly even tipping when loading plates? I have the fringes port longhorn and the ghost cups with the duffalo inserts, and even though it prevents the longhorn from flipping (meaning the curve doesn’t flip to the bottom), it tends to slide sometimes to one side when loading a plate, and sometimes I worry that the bar will tip over to the side which it almost has onetime and since then I don’t really use the bar because of that. Would love your thoughts on this as I intend to purchase the cb4 bar and get the koala inserts if it means that it is safer than the longhorn bar I have. Thanks! Also, not sure if it matters but I currently use a rep pr5000v2. Not sure if the 47 inch width makes a difference than your rogue 49inch width.

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

I haven't had any issues slipping on any of my buffalo style bars in the blocks as long as I'm balanced in my loading (1 plate per side at a time).

@skibmbp

2 жыл бұрын

I have a rep rack and using the bar this weekend it seemed very stable to me. This bar is soo long!

@strengthofsynergy9883

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome good to know. What j cups were you using?

Hi Brandon. Question ? Does the Rogue CB-4 have a more pronounced curve than the Duffalo Bar? I have shoulder problems and need to keep my arms lower as I grab the bar for a low bar squat. I can't use a straight olympic bar anymore.

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

The curve itself is about the same. The main difference is the Kabukis ends earlier and the sleeves flatten out more where the rogue keeps going for a few more inches.

@anthonyluisi7096

2 жыл бұрын

@@BasementBrandon , awesome 👏 thank you 🙏

Great review and just pulled the trigger on one! Any idea how these fit inside a rogue standard monster jcup?

@3r123

7 ай бұрын

Also Merry Christmas!

@BasementBrandon

6 ай бұрын

I never used it with them tbh. Hoping well! I know they show them in sandwich cups in the site pics.

Love your channel! I was wondering if you could test drive and verdictize the Marrs Bar and the Super Rhino Bar? A lot of us value your opinion and don't want to waste money on products that may simply be a novelty or niche item, especially in the current economic climate.

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe! The marrs has always looked a bit funky to me, so hesitant to drop $800 on it knowing I likely wouldn't keep it.

I think I will be getting this, because when it gets to the european rogue store the shipping will most likely be cheaper than kabuki. Kabuki was like more than the price of the actual bar last time I check (was of course not as bad in 2019/2020). Think I paid 250 dollars for my kabuki powerbar, like 500 dollars for my transformer bar...

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

It's no fun to pay for shipping :(

I wonder how it compares to the Yukon bar? Probably still not worth ditching for the CB-4? Bar diameter and price seem to be the big differences here.

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

Depends, some of the import bars are hit or miss with their knurling but the thing that throws me off the most with them is they can't figure out a smooth taper for the bar and it always seems too overdone.

@TheCarterHomeGym

2 жыл бұрын

@@BasementBrandon Yeah, the Yukon bar's knurling is pretty passive and the arch is definitely different. The CB4's arch is more pronounced and flattens out before reaching the sleeve, while the Yukon kind of tapers off into the sleeve. I personally think I would prefer the CB4 over the Yukon--particularly for the arch, knurling, and greater bar diameter--I'm just not sure it's worth upgrading for. I guess if buying new, the price tag vs the buyer's estimated frequency of use might be the biggest factor (CB4 is 2x the price). Thanks for the video, Brandon! Very informative.

@illestdomer2005

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t have a Duffalo bar, but the CB-4 camber seems much closer. Ever since Fringe started making their Longhorn bar in China, the arch is comical.

In your opinion, if you were deciding between the Duffalo and the CB-4, which one would you choose? I am going back and forth between the two and can't make a decision. I'm based in a garage and am worried about corrosion with the black oxide version from Kabuki, but the fact that the knurling is better and the finish is nicer, I can't decide.

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

I think the Rogue might make more sense FOR ME as it ends up being around $200 or so cheaper for a very similar experience and is different enough with the bigger diameter from my other bars. But you literally can't go wrong with either.

I bought a CB-4 from Rogues Boneyard, for $420. I have not been able to find any defects with it, and the finish looks fine. I'm happy with the purchase.

@BasementBrandon

8 ай бұрын

Nice pick up!

Digging the shorts bro 🤜🏻🤛🏼

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

summer time!

For a daily squat bar would you choose this or the rogue squat bar for someone not competing.

@BasementBrandon

4 ай бұрын

Depends, the rogue squat bar will be mroe akin to a normal back squat, the camber bar will push the weight forward some, so it may be a bit harder depending on where you place it. You could also use the camber bar for bench press.

That barbell tube😂😂😂😂 that looks insane!!!!!

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

Now to repurpose it!

Any more thoughts on this bar after a couple months? Compared to the duffalo specifically

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

So I find myself using this more than the duffalo, but you can't go wrong with either. I think since this is cheaper and more readily available, it's likely a better option even though the Duffalo has nicer finishes.

hey brandon, what is that white rack attachment that bumps out behind you?

@BasementBrandon

2 ай бұрын

Rack off sets. I did a video here kzread.info/dash/bejne/gJ2r1Kd8qsyck9o.html

@rue2241

2 ай бұрын

@@BasementBrandon thank you

They had to send me a replacement bar as well because of an imperfection on a spot of the knurl. I could also feel the ridge like you; however, on my replacement bar you can not feel the ridge at all.

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

Can't feel the ridge on my replacement either!

@BrimhallBarbellClub

2 жыл бұрын

@@BasementBrandon also, the knurl on my new bar is night and day more aggressive. 🤷🏻‍♂️ love my new CB-4 a lot!

Hey Brandon. I'm sorry to bother you again with another question on the Kabuki and rogue but if I could only ask one last one . Which girth do you actually prefer , the 38mm or the 32mm ? Bars aside , which thickness feels better to you on your back and in your hands ? Today I'm definitely leaning towards the CB4 . 3 to 5 days shipping time vs 8 to 12 weeks , cerakote vs black oxide which usually I would not like but on this bar it's ok , and the CB4 is 85 bucks cheaper which is always nice . I'm almost finished with my process of deciding and you can be very helpful here.. Thanks Brandon

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

I like the thicker bar as it's more of a variation. I have seen some people (females) say it's too big for them, but for most males I don't imagine it to be an issue.

@jamesshaffer4547

Жыл бұрын

@@BasementBrandon Hey Brandon, you came through again for me buddy. The second time in 2 weeks ! 38mm thickness a variation ? Wow I never thought about it that way . So obvious but that's why it's so nice to have you out here to bounce things off of . Sometimes you just need to talk things through to find the answers that were right in front of you . You're not just a guy who makes great videos but also an invaluable resource for equipment . Your channel is like texting a friend with a question . I'm 53 and although I have lifted since I was 19 I only recently scrapped all my old equipment for new stuff about 2 years ago . I lift at home and I'm not a part of any lifting community so it's great to have someone I can count on to help me navigate this stuff. I notice that you never ask people to subscribe to your channel so I will . Anyone reading this who obviously cares about equipment please subscribe to Brandon. This guy , besides making great informative videos, also takes the the time to answer any of your questions . I don't really see anyone with his amount of subscribers doing this and especially on videos that are years old . This must take quite a bit of time and he has a family to boot . Let's get this guy the amount of subscribers he deserves . Ok Brandon, in closing I just purchased the CB4 and I have no reservations . I know I can be a bit anal and annoying but damn it was tough to choose between CB4 and duffalo. Whew , I'm glad that's over .Lol Ok brother, be good, and I'll ttys

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for all the kind words James, I appreciate it. Let me know what you think of the bar once it's in!

Just got this bar and the Squat movement feels noticeably different than a straight-barbell Squat. Is it normal for there to be some "instability/balancing" at the top of the Squat due to the 4.4" camber?

@BasementBrandon

Ай бұрын

It can be a bit off putting at first. Usually with the bend it ends up putting the weight more forward than a traditional back squat.

@rickviramontes2317

Ай бұрын

@@BasementBrandon I can definitely feel the slight shift forward in center-of-mass, but would you say there is also a slight "teeter-totter/self-balancing" sway to this bar? I'm only familiar with cambered pressing bars (Kadillac/Titan Multigrip Camber) and I get a similar 'self-balancing' experience on the CB-4. I suspect this is the nature of all cambered bars where the weight is below the barbell, but just wanted your thoughts on that. Best home-gym review channel on KZread, btw!

@BasementBrandon

Ай бұрын

@@rickviramontes2317 Oh for sure. Any cambered bar is going to have some balance issues!

@rickviramontes2317

Ай бұрын

@@BasementBrandon I figured that was likely the reason. Thanks for confirming and putting my mind at ease my Boneyard bar is functioning perfectly as intended!... 👍🏼

What do you think of Buffalo bars vs SSB? I have a hard time squatting with SSB, something feels off. I've seen some people say these feels just like lowbar, and some people say these are more liek an SSB. If thats the case I should just stick with my SSB and try to learn to use it properly. Cuz my elbow sucks so I cant do normal lowbar haha...

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

So it depends. The camber on these bars can put the weights forward or back, so the movement feels different. The SSB prob allows for more variation b/c you have the handles to help you adjust. I find the SSB is somewhere more like a high bar or front squat. Can you tell me which SSB you have?

@ElijahG98

Жыл бұрын

@@BasementBrandon Thanks for the info. I have the Vulcan commercial SSB. I think part of it is I just need to get my body to squat properly because I'm apparently the only one who has issues with an ssb lol.

Those concrete footer tubes are exactly what I was thinking of.

@MacStrengthCo

2 жыл бұрын

They call them "sonotubes" back when I was doing construction. I agree with Brandon a box makes more sense.

@ClarksvilleBarbellClub

2 жыл бұрын

@@MacStrengthCo Ah! Thanks for that info, brother!

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

Would be great to use in a hole at a dig site to get a soil sample...

@ClarksvilleBarbellClub

2 жыл бұрын

@@BasementBrandon Too soon, bro! Too soon! LOL! Speaking of which, I just made that dude a cash offer to get him to come down on the price, so... that site might be back on. ;-) You saw my gym manager shirt on Instagram? LOL!

Great review. Thanks

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Great vid! I harassed rogue Australia to see if they would stock it and they said pump your breaks bruh it jussst released in the US.. What about the uninspiring end caps? I know it gives coop some sleepless nights..

@Xplora213

2 жыл бұрын

Best to harass them. Bas does listen.

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

I kind of like minimal caps TBH, but would have loved to see the TT logo.

I was at rogue yesterday and checked this boi out and dannnnng that boi thick. I have never squatted over 475, so the fringe Buffalo was a good choice for me.

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

Hopefully you got one before they started outsourcing and changing the camber!

@illestdomer2005

2 жыл бұрын

@@BasementBrandon that’s what happened to me and why I ordered the CB-4

Hey Brandon, thanks for the review. I just got my CB4 bar today and I am as disappointed as I am stoked on this bar. On one hand it feels great and meets my expectation in terms of being great specialty bar. On the second hand the finish of the bar is pitiful and is more along the lines of something I would expect from the boneyard. I am considering requesting a partial refund, or sending it back and requesting another bar. Do you think the finish is bad enough that the majority of people who purchased the bar will feel the same, or am I being too critical?

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

I can't really say without seeing it as I've seen some that have been pretty bad and some that look similar to mine. However you might want to do it anyways and see what they say.

Is this worth buying over the duffalo bar? If a person doesn’t already have a duffalo bar.

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

I think so. Very similar in use but about $200 cheaper.

Will be waiting on the follow up video to see if this magically helps those of us with a poverty bench

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

Haha I've been using a cambered bar for bench for awhile and no dice yet!

​@BasementBrandon any thoughts on how the CB-4 compares to the Strongarm Sport buffalo bar that you reviewed during your TemporaryGarageGymBrandon days?

@BasementBrandon

11 ай бұрын

The original strongarm one I reviewed was a very good bar. Good knurling and build quality at like sub $300. They have since released a newer one which I think is actually worse. The CB4 wins hands down however in everything but price.

@nudistelgoog2365

11 ай бұрын

@@BasementBrandon thanks for the response, I really appreciate the info! Shame to hear the new strongarm bar isn't as good as the original. Sounds like it suffered a similar fate as the fringe longhorn bar. Although lower cost is always nice, my biggest concern is bar length. I don't have a ton of room and the 95" CB-4 is going to be cutting it very close when loading weight on one side of my rack. I was hoping the 92" strongarm would be the best compromise between length and bow. Any chance you've seen the new Vulcan Buffalo Bar V2.0 that is allegedly releasing this month? The spec page lists 87.5", which has me worried it may not sit nicely in J-cups, and/or won't have enough of a bow.

@BasementBrandon

11 ай бұрын

Check out the new one from Primal Armor, I believe they're using the same USA manufacturer that used to do the Longhorn bar before Fringe moved it overseas. Good small company and bar is normal length. Called the Appalachian Bar.

@nudistelgoog2365

11 ай бұрын

@@BasementBrandon looks like the Appalachian checks all the boxes for me and even has the diameter and weight printed on the end caps as a cherry on top. Thanks for the recommendation! I'm going to purchase within the next day or two so if you have an affiliate code let me know, otherwise I'm putting gluck in the order notes

@BasementBrandon

11 ай бұрын

@@nudistelgoog2365 I didn't think it made sense to have an affiliate, I'm going to be getting rid of a lot of them at the end of this year. Happy to help!

Id like to see a side by side comparison to the Strongarm Buffalo bar.

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

I no longer have mine. The G1 I had was solid, but I didn't like that it was a normal 29mm. I bought the G2 as it went up to 32mm but I got a very bad bar (rusted, no knurl) that I ended up selling it for very cheap. I've heard the newer ones are better, but not going to gamble on it again!

Yeah..not for me I'm old and in the way...Got my second hip surgery setup for July 27th. I looking at November to be back under the bar. That'll be 3 months after both have been done...Great review

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

Right on! Good luck and heal up!

Sounds like Kabuki Duffalo Bar is better than the Rogue CB4 in overall … but if I have the newest version of the Kabuki Transformer Bar, do I still need the Duffalo Bar or this CB4?

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

I think the Duffalo is "nicer" however I find I use the CB4 more. I like the bigger diameter.

@adrianlee2780

Жыл бұрын

Now I want to purchase the Rogue CB4 too! Does the CB4 give you more versatility even when you own Kabuki Transformer Bar?

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

@@adrianlee2780 You'll prob run into some overlap but at least you can bench with the cb4.

Hi, the following question always comes to my mind; why people who lift heavy weights like you do, their bodies aren't as muscular are those who do bodybuilding althought bodybuilding is about weight lifting as well???

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

I think that's a pretty big misconception. I know a lot of powerlifters who are more aesthetic than those training for bodybuilding. I also think many people also are using non natural bodybuilders/comps as a reference. Take a look at a natural bodybuilding competition and you'd see what I'm talking about.

Notification gang member in the building 💯

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

my dude

- I’d like to know how much the camber effects your 1rm. Is the camber pushing you to front squat territory? The form at the Arnold’s for most guys looked a little upright but pretty normal and didn’t seem to lower their output. - I’m always shocked when people talk about the Duffalo bar, this bar or any of the buffalo copies and don’t mention the OG- Ironmind Buffalo bar. It’s a Beast. 35mm shaft, so zero whip and basically indestructible for partials. And less camber than the duffalo.

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

I think for what it is and it's price it's prob just a turn off for most people. It's the most expensive option for likely one of the lower bells and whistles.

I know they replaced your bar. Would be interested in an updated review after more use.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Will have to do that, same general thoughts! Good value considering, but hard to justify it if you already own a duffalo

Titan Yukon bar on sale. Sry but it’s better than both options and saves enough money to feel good about copping the Kabuki DL bar 🙏

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

The Yukon is not a better option, it is a cheaper option. I don't mind paying more for these vs the cheap imports as the cheap imports can't seem to figure out how to do a gradual camber.

"Today is the 7th." Video release: Jun 6 - Basement Brandon: Time Cop

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

Jean Claude has nothing on me.

Here I was... waiting for Brandon to do some deadlifts with this bar...

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

block pulls basically lol

Is it me or is the right sleeve not straight? Looks to be bent upwards just slightly

@jonahkim69

2 жыл бұрын

Hey, you're right. Must be a boneyard. :)

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t have it racked centered. You can see by how much knurl hangs off the cups.

@HimothyTimTim

2 жыл бұрын

@@BasementBrandon take a look at 4:53… I really hope I’m wrong but it looks the same

@lukea2806

2 жыл бұрын

@@HimothyTimTim it’s because it’s racked off to one side lol

@HimothyTimTim

2 жыл бұрын

@@lukea2806 take a look at 4:53. It’s definitely center racked, and the sleeve is angled upwards on the right sleeve facing the bar. All the other bars are perfectly parallel to include the left sleeve of the bar.

I am considering a buffalo bar (probably the cb-4) but I lift solo in my rogue rm-4 fortis. I use safety straps. I have never used a buffalo bar (or anything but a straight bar). I would like to use it for squat and bench (maybe overhead press as well). What I don't understand is how the safety straps will protect you from a curved bar that can roll. With my straight bar, due to the shape of my body, I have to have them set at an angle and the straight bar will roll/slide toward my head. But it can not reach my head. If I bail on a bench press lift (sudden muscle failure) what would stop it from rolling toward me and slamming me in the head? (a controlled slow failure obviously wouldn't present a problem, i.e. taking on one too many reps) Granted, I have never failed a bench press. And have only tested this in theory to make sure the straps are spaced properly. But still, that is probably my one hold up. The other issue is my j-cups are already just above the strap safety and I would have to lower them to account for the curve which will almost certainly necessitate more angle on the straps. Thoughts? Do you feel it is safe?

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

So the portions near the sleeves would hit first actually giving you a bit more wiggle room since the sleeves would be supported and the bend would be up. If you were to complete drop your hands off it, it might be more dicey.

@dleute

Жыл бұрын

@@BasementBrandon yeah, I was thinking sudden complete failure. This is incredibly unlikely at my age and lifting program. I don’t do stupid lifts or anything near them. But with a straight bar, the bar would almost certainly be contained. The biggest purpose of the buffalo bar for me is squat mobility. I take the widest grip I can and it’s still crazy tight. To the point where that is often the stressful part of the lift. Worst case is I could use it for squat and overhead and leave the chest press to the ohio bar. Thanks for the feedback!

@dleute

Жыл бұрын

@@BasementBrandon just a follow up: I received the cb-4 and the plates are so tight I can’t get them on and off the bar. I have requested a return. Have you tried a variety of plates? My vulcan alphas simply don’t work. I have to load weight on the opposite side sometimes to get a 45 off that is stuck without pulling the bar off the rack. Have you experienced any of this?

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

@@dleute I've heard a few (relatively small) amount of people with this issue. I'd contact Rogue and they'll take care of you.

@dleute

Жыл бұрын

@@BasementBrandon I am contacting rogue. Unless both of these sleeves are well outside of QC parameters, I am concerned any sleeve with this coating won't work with my plates. I would love to buy urethane plates at some point, but it's not in the budget for quite a while. Anyway, gonna go research alternatives to the mg-4cn which was going to be my next purchase. I know you are using the mg-4. Do you have a full comparison with the kadillac yet? Looking for stability/comfort over everything else.

is duffalo/buffalo the same thing?

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

Duffalo is just kabuki’a take on a Buffalo bar. Named for the founder, Chris Duffin.

The right sleeve looks bent. I thought so right from the beginning but 4:53 in the video for sure looks bent upward.

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

I have an ask out to Rogue about it. The duffalo sleeves bend up as well, but this one only has one sleeve like that...

@tylerterstegen3953

2 жыл бұрын

@@BasementBrandon If both sleeves had that bend I wouldn't have questioned it. Keep us posted on what Rogue says.

@lucascarr4363

2 жыл бұрын

@@BasementBrandon Did you ever get an answer about this? Looking to buy Duffalo or this one soon and I am currently on the fence.

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

@@lucascarr4363 Yes I uploaded it as a short, Rogue offered to replace the bar.

First impressions on CB4 v longhorn bar?

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

Have not used the newer Longhorn since they started making it overseas but have heard a lot of people think the bend is too steep.

@tylerehrig6722

2 жыл бұрын

@@BasementBrandon Oh ok gotcha! With this rogue one a noticeable difference with pressure off the shoulders v a typical straight bar?

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

@@tylerehrig6722 Yes the curve makes it so you don't have to get your shoulders as far back.

Literally just got mine today

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

Thoughts?

@illestdomer2005

2 жыл бұрын

@@BasementBrandon I like it, but you already saw my comment on Facebook about the damage to it. Totally agree with your assessment of the packaging. I will add that Rogue told me they are going to foam in box for future orders, and I was one of 2 people who had received damaged bars so I guess the person from IG and me make 2. I agree that the Rogue logo looks a bit soft, but it’s only noticeable when you’re within a foot of it. That said, I think the bar itself looks and feels great - I am not worried about the logo. Love that you pointed out the Koala blocks. I have the Ghost Kabuki blocks, and while I am still using them with the CB-4, I am less than thrilled about loading it up since it just sits on the grooves. It’s really stable with the knurling past the J cups though so I need to try it on my Rogue sandwich cups to see if they’re even necessary. The camber felt great to me and a welcome change from my Longhorn bar which is WAY too pronounced. I’m curious if you’ve used it for any Good Mornings. I need to try those as I hate them with a regular straight bar and assume the 38mm should feel even better than my Longhorn where GMs are probably it’s best use case.

Just ordered this from the boneyard for $295. Cerakote with raw sleeves

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Hard to beat! Just make sure you know it's local pick up only!

Sheesh my guy is repping 8 wheels like nothing. Good stuff 👍

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

Dying on the inside.

I swear the TT bar looks different than the CB4. The TT in the Arnold footage looks to have far more drastic camber to it. Maybe my eyes are playing with me but maybe that’s why it’s not named the same? 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

I've looked a few times at that myself. Sometimes the angle looks big on this, others it looks more flat.

Hmm the curve messing with the delts a little. I didn’t see that coming. I know most people would disagree but I like Rogue’s knurling on their squat bar better than Kabuki’s squat bar. I am intrigued and very interested to see how this plays out! Will be on standby sir. Good luck and thank you for posting.

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I love me some of that SS OPB knurl on the squat bar!

6:40 CB4, also a classic Chris Rock movie

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

Truth.

Looks beautiful girthie... Nothing like a big black shaft to grab with both hands.

@bmstylee

2 жыл бұрын

Whoa. Hey now.

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

speaking my language.

so you're saying they threw a hotdog down a hallway with that tube

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Basically!

Gun to head, you have enough money for either, Kabuki Duffalo or the Rogue?

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

Still depends. I think in general the Rogue is unique enough and cheaper that it seems like an easier choice, but the Kabuki is really nice. Now I have both lol.

120 working sets? Damn.

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

Hah yeah was wondering who would catch that, 120 reps, whoops.

Goddamn 430ish pound squat for 10 ain’t bad for an old man… good for you.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Thanks man, just trying to improve!

Jesus! Is that thing like 34mm!?

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

38mm shaft baby

@ClarksvilleBarbellClub

2 жыл бұрын

@@BasementBrandon Dayum! That's is a thick shaft! 😳😳😳

I skipped on this one yet here I am waiting to see what the 👑says

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

Come try it out

Chesticles 🤣🤣🤣

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

pump em up

Rogue packing, plain and simple, sucks. Their products are excellent but packaging poor.

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

I've actually had minimal issues with all the stuff I've ordered from them, but this one is just poorly planned.

@mdjak3686

2 жыл бұрын

@@BasementBrandon I didn’t mean to imply otherwise. I own a large rack of theirs, couple of their bars and while many pieces were broken out of the packing, I was lucky there was no damage. And any time I had an issue with an incorrect piece or something missing, their customer service is excellent.

@BasementBrandon

2 жыл бұрын

@@mdjak3686 I think we're on the same page, to me it's a combination of a lot of things for a lot of companies, namely not spending more on better materials, but also the handling services just not giving AF. I know a lot of people who have had issues with Rogue (especially post 2019) but I've been largely lucky. In this case however I really thing their packaging for the bar was not well thought out!