Thank God for the digital age so we can still see such lectures. RIP.

Sir Roger was a true knight of Christendom and one of the few true intellectual giants. Unapologetic to the mental asylum the West is becoming and eloquent in his speech as some of the greatest orators of the past. May you rest in peace.

@CarlosAugustoScalassaraPrando

3 жыл бұрын

Nope.

@willdenham

Жыл бұрын

What other 'great orators' are we talking about here?

@davidm1149

Жыл бұрын

"mental asylum of the west" is a good way to put it.

@Blissblizzard

7 ай бұрын

​CarlosAugustoScalassaroPrando Is the pre eminent orator of this thread l think you'll find.

Boy, when you're anticipating Scruton's soothing and aesthetically pleasing voice, that guy in the beginning is a real kick in the balls.

@MsDrSantana

5 жыл бұрын

"Kick in the balls" is not aesthetically pleasing either. The ugliness Scruton is talking about includes vulgar language contaminating everything.

@bradleywilliams9896

5 жыл бұрын

@@MsDrSantana Careful you don't pull a muscle with all that pearl clutching.

@bimonsolivar8898

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly my thoughts. Why waste 10 minutes if Roger f-ing Scruton is there to give a speech?!

@aaron___6014

9 ай бұрын

@@bradleywilliams9896 it's a reasonable assessment.

@rachaelpellagrini1669

3 ай бұрын

Have you discovered the "playback" icon attached to your video at corner, and closed captioning is also useful.

R. S. starts to speak at 09:45.

@js357s

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@katherinewilkinson9428

5 жыл бұрын

Appreciated 👍👍

@fredjones554

4 жыл бұрын

God bless you sir

@WoodlandPoetry

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@josongeorge5

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks

What a blessing watch such a great and honorable man. RIP Sir Roger...

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@everettelderberry5362

4 жыл бұрын

Ha! Thanks pal!

@martinstremlow2997

3 жыл бұрын

Fully agree!

@martinstremlow2997

3 жыл бұрын

Excellent comment

“....self restraint and beauty,” how refreshingly wonderful to hear.

@georger64

4 жыл бұрын

And how depressing that neither seems popular anymore. Ugly buildings, ugly clothes, ugly language, ugly behavior. We are surrounded by ugliness. And I don‘t even want to start on self restraint. To paraphrase Sir Roger: “I don‘t know what beauty is, but I recognize it when I see it.“ So, now I‘m going to watch the speech. I‘m sure I only repeated the points he makes, only less eloquently.

If I say something about the graffiti problem in my city among my radical left friends, I am corrected and told it's vibrant street art. The commissioners they've voted in actually promote it. If I promote The Great Masters, I'm ignored or worse, it bores. Subversive concepts trump even years of study and skill. No discussion is allowed with many when it comes to aesthetic. One very radical person I know claimed that the concept of aesthetic value is evil or some nonsense. So it seems that with too many, anything goes and is beautiful unless its what is deemed "traditional." I am pretty sure this isn't just a matter of changing tastes but it is very political. A look at what is promoted in my city suggests that putting aside classical training, study is standing for the common man, but how many great artists started as common men who worked hard to achieve something higher? It's a little insulting to a person who was born into a blue collar family, went to art school to try to achieve that something higher. Coming back to the town I left, I felt my motivation leave as I see our galleries full of "art" achieved by gluing hair to garbage and only things like this applauded. I wonder, does it inspire people? Does the glue-y hair fill them with wonder, make them feel glad to be alive? The message is: don't work hard to be greater. You are great as you are. People who look to the work of the past will only hinder us, tear down what we worked for before because those people weren't as enlightened as we are now. Live for now, not your ancestors, not your children, if you have them.

@cassandras7399

4 жыл бұрын

CM agreed, and the people who promote this do not know their own transcendental ugliness

@zenden6564

3 жыл бұрын

"Uglification" and desecration abound. Look at the institution of marriage, mentioned at the 18 min mark. It has been spat on by Feminists for 50 years. Now we have 76% of (USA) working class marriages ending in divorce, & only 30% of people even bothering to marry and (Scooby-do mystery) we are experiencing a demographic collapse of the Caucasians. The West (as a continuum from its Greco-Roman origins) is going into the characteristic 'late Empire' stage prior to its dying convulse. Once you open your eyes, it is alas all you can see. The end-to-end debacle of the 2020 US Election is yet another achingly poignant example. It is not some ultimate proof of resilience, that "the process" spat out a winner but just another indicative notch downward on the relentless ratchet of social decline. Elon wants elite humanity to move to Mars, I wonder what he's been smoking? Oh yeah, the same stuff we're all about legalising. Etc., etc ., yada, yada. The next market correction the pundits are calling will be the real doozy.

@AlbEngr

2 жыл бұрын

Probably you shouldn’t consider them as “Friends”... just people you know and viceversa. I have many clients, which I don’t consider friends and I always tell them what I think about Moder “art”, I tell them what a bunch of mediocre things they do, I have practiced, studied, and pursued perfection in my craft and they know it and they have No other choice but to use my service (it has to do with art metal smith), they know that what I’ve learned takes almost a lifetime and I do Feel I have the right to say all I want about the Senseless practice of Street art, modern art, and especially Graffiti! I enjoy telling them that The kind of art (paintings and sculptures) you see Nowadays is the kind of stuff just a Drug addict would do, or that I could do those sculptures with my feet! Haha! 75% of Modern artists are just Spoiled Rich Liberal Kids (15-65 years old kids) and the other 25% are their Poor and Liberal students who think their art teachers became Rich selling their horrific artworks.

@davidm1149

Жыл бұрын

They're only afraid of seeing the bare skeleton of stone and steel that would replace it. The

God bless Sir Roger. In an age of continual and progressive desecration and devaluation of aesthetic principles and the undying legacy of Western Civilization, he held and carried the standard high. When all the nonsense has found its way into obscurity, his clear voice and firm grip on what has always made life better will be found along the lighted way.

@lilliannieswender266

4 жыл бұрын

This was a beautiful comment and tribute to a great man.

Beauty is the true measure of our lives. So, So, true.

When you have such a prominent speaker, don't make the audience and the speaker wait so long - EXACTLY!

R.I.P Mr. Scruton. One more extraordinary thinker who left this world. There aren,t a lot left of his kind. 🙏

Beauty is that which pleases and pulls us into community.

This was breathtaking beautiful and intelligent. Unfortunately I haven't been told someone as brilliant, sage and ... well no words can describe him fully, Roger Scruton. I cannot thank enough for this and the other videos. Greetings from Buenos Aires, Argentina. THIS IS BEAUTY

Beauty belongs to God, ugliness belongs to the ego, and that ugliness is both a denial and a copy of true beauty. The more ego reigns the more ugliness prospers. We need a non-metaphysical return to God.

@jhgosnell

4 жыл бұрын

No doubt.

@teresaloureiro2525

3 жыл бұрын

WONDERFUL , what YOU ! and BEAUTIFULLY VERBALIZED . in GRATITUDE .

@VladTrandafir

3 жыл бұрын

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@VladTrandafir

3 жыл бұрын

@@jhgosnell 00

This lecture is a spark of light in a society that gloriflies ugliness✨

@willdenham

Жыл бұрын

What ugliness is being glorified?

@michaelricketson1365

Жыл бұрын

@@willdenham Why do you ask if you don’t care?

@willdenham

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelricketson1365 To poke holes in this BS. I do care that this is what passes for social criticism and that people like this are being taken seriously. This rhetoric leads to a lot of backward thinking and fuels modern conservatism which is what is actually hurting society, not the arbitrary crap he's attempting to distract people with.

@michaelricketson1365

Жыл бұрын

@@willdenham So he should be talking about what?

@willdenham

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelricketson1365 Criticizing what someone says to an audience of people and in a public forum is not the same thing as telling them what they can and can't talk about. It's not what he is choosing to talk about as it is the content of what he is saying. I'm not against criticism of music and society.

I have to disagree with Sir Roger on the point of beauty and suffering. Some of my most profound experiences of beauty have occured during periods of great weakness in my pain and suffering when I was brought into a deeper awareness of the Presence of God.

@OriginalLHB

4 жыл бұрын

Amen Brother. The only point at which I have ever seriously disagreed with Sir Roger was when he dismissed the Grunewald Crucifixion in favor of the Donotello stating the former conveyed nothing but hopelessness. Rather the contrary in my experience.

@everettelderberry5362

4 жыл бұрын

Nice. I agree. Me too.

thanks for sharing this video

2021, i follow sir Scruton video conferences one by one to grasp some of his greatness, but on that particular confernce he wasint a shining star, i just discovered prof.Crosby (the father) and i must say he enchanted me...i could listen to him long and it would sound like a fairy tale, greetings and admiration to prof Crosby and thankx to university.

Amazing!

Great talks!

Beautiful Sir

wonderful man...

Powerful talk

1:07:36 ... YOU ARE GREAT ... COURAGEOUS and FU of HONOUR . I FULLY UNDERSTAND the WHOLE CONTEXT in which YOU ARE . CONGRATULATIONS . it is a HERO TASK .

YES ... ' a LONG TERM VIEW is PAINFUL to ACQUIRE ' ... VERY BEAUTIFUL and RELEVANT COMMENT ... !

Rest well, Sir Roger! ☦️

I miss Roger

As I listened I thought that ugly might just be the beauty for the less talented. They can admire and stimulate eachothers work because they don't have to feel less competent. I also recall that beauty is the reflection of the inner life. Thus the surplus of ugly, surrounding us everywhere, is a correct translation of the inner poverty of mankind. When The Nazarene said 'give the emperor what is the emperor's and give to God what is His', He was not talking of man made laws. He was talking about the world versus the spirit. Man is ín the world for a short time but belongs to the realm of the spirit. Those who seek purpose in the world, gain worldliness and lose spirit. Beauty belongs to the realm of the spirit. How can art by worldly people be anything else than ugly? It was very nice to listen to you all. Pleasant sparks of light in the growing darkness. 💫

Scruton got great hair.

1:23:17 ... VERY GOOD QUESTION ! And VERY WELL FORMULATED .

I will make this brief,vital. When I saw the news of his death not long ago, I held my breath and said,¨No¨. I have no apology for my being appalled at the reaction of the death a certain sports star in the also recent past. To think that Mr. Scruton was hounded, defiled and ostracized by ill educated self absorbed snarling mobs to the end of his life sickens me. That, judging by the date of this video, he would have known of his future, makes it all the more unbearable. Make yourselves heard for the sake of God.

Thoroughly enjoyed this, very illuminating. Of particular interest was the distinction between imagination and fantasy. I have heard it said that the new guidance on the Catechism, expected in 2019, will focus on beauty. Can anyone confirm or shed any light on this? I certainly agree with the panel that beauty has certain criteria, and that it is not in the eye of the beholder.

So sad Scruton is gone.

No fry voice, thank you!

It has all become political because of the fact governments have such an increased power over the individual life that most intuit that they have a vested interest in who gets elected and what party is in power. This has become reality. We, including many in the RCC, have lost all sense of subsidiarity - my guess is that many, if not most, don't even know what that principle is. At the same time, individuals have given over their power to those who would rule in order to have a false, but well fantasized, sense of security. People want a life with guarantees, despite the fact, such is impossible. Perhaps quite involved is a lack of true trust in their Creator. Sad and what a mess.

Lecture starts at 9:50

1014 ... ' CATHOLIC INTELLECTUAL LIFE ' ... this is REALLY GOOD to HEAR !

This was wonderful to hear! He appears to be a Stoic in the highest and best sense of the term.

@AjaxNixon

4 жыл бұрын

Aka Christian. Take the breadpill bro

❤

10 minutes of introduction. These people sure love the sound other own voice. Damn!

I'm sure, that it was not intend but the juxtapositon of the Dean, Mr McCarthy and Sir Roger Scrutton is the best illustration of the talk. The first is a living, ugly image of a pompous, souless man and the latter, on the other hand, a beatifull image of what soulful man is like. I only wonder how the dinner went, if there was any, with those two at the same table...Or, perhaps, Sir Scrutton brought his own sandwich and ate it on the lawn. No money could compensate for the torture of the overblown Dean's ego's company.

This makes me more aware of the presence of God

Sir Rog should come to Detroit now. Downtown is quite nice nowadays.

wow

Re: The question about beauty and impoverishment...that's very difficult to address. It reminds me of the conflict between the Savage and the Controller in BRAVE NEW WORLD...

Speech starts at 11:00

It appears to me he achieved much admirable in his 75 years. He made real what he stood for as best in the culture shaped by its Greco/Roman/Judeo/Christian heritage of which self and other forgiveness was an important part.

Scruton misses the mark when he says that there is no discourse in art/music/culture that allows for an opinion or judgement. The idea is not that someone can't have an opinion, it's that no one's opinion is above anyone elses and someone's judgement is not the end all be all.

@Blissblizzard

7 ай бұрын

That's not how you get past an audition at conservatoires to study music, it's not something you can fake, thousands of hours of practice.and actual talent. But the alphabet agencies decided that Art was far too important to leave to actual artists, it's the pinnacle of propaganda after all, there is nothing anti elitist about business art and the markets. Study the Cold War it's fascinating. A cat can look at a Queen, but the Queen doesn't look at the cat, that's an uneducated take.

I think that there are two Basic Truths that go Hand-in-Hand and which lie at the heart of both Sir Roger's "Life's Work" and the man himself, namely, that Basic Truths indeed DO exist, and the Essential Truth that "Some Things Are Better Than Other Things." The fact that much of the contemporary world rejects Truths which were once universally accepted as being Self-Evident is the basic reason why the world is in the condition that it is in at present. The diabolical "philosophy" of Relativism has attempted to replace these Truths with absurd propositions which, it is said, demand the same serious consideration as non-absurd propositions. Thus serious claims can be made which are manifestly untrue, such as the assertion that men can menstruate, give birth and lactate, which leads to the equally absurd assertion that one can choose one's sex simply by changing one's appearance. Relativism (which happens to be an Article of Faith in the secular religion of Leftism) also requires its adherents to accept as true that the "culture"of a tribe of head-hunting cannibals deserves the same respect (and is equally as valuable) as the culture which Western Civilization has produced. The challenge to sane individuals is not only to reject the notion that Insanity and Perverse Thinking are, and should be The Norm, but to actively resist it.

I want the fear of the lord and the knowledge of God to be known For the good of everyone while considering all things America was founded on the foundation of God there for is not a movable foundation and everything built on it must be built from it And He said I will gather you of all nations “Comfort ye, comfort ye my people, saith your God. Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished, that her iniquity is pardoned: for she hath received of the LORD's hand double for all her sins. The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God. Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain: and the glory of the LORD shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it. The voice said, Cry. And he said, What shall I cry? All flesh is grass, and all the goodliness thereof is as the flower of the field: the grass withereth, the flower fadeth: because the spirit of the LORD bloweth upon it: surely the people is grass. The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever. O Zion, that bringest good tidings, get thee up into the high mountain; O Jerusalem, that bringest good tidings, lift up thy voice with strength; lift it up, be not afraid; say unto the cities of Judah, Behold your God! Behold, the Lord GOD will come with strong hand, and his arm shall rule for him: behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him. He shall feed his flock like a shepherd: he shall gather the lambs with his arm, and carry them in his bosom, and shall gently lead those that are with young. Who hath measured the waters in the hollow of his hand, and meted out heaven with the span, and comprehended the dust of the earth in a measure, and weighed the mountains in scales, and the hills in a balance? Who hath directed the Spirit of the LORD, or being his counsellor hath taught him? With whom took he counsel, and who instructed him, and taught him in the path of judgment, and taught him knowledge, and shewed to him the way of understanding? Behold, the nations are as a drop of a bucket, and are counted as the small dust of the balance: behold, he taketh up the isles as a very little thing. And Lebanon is not sufficient to burn, nor the beasts thereof sufficient for a burnt offering. All nations before him are as nothing; and they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity. To whom then will ye liken God? or what likeness will ye compare unto him? The workman melteth a graven image, and the goldsmith spreadeth it over with gold, and casteth silver chains. He that is so impoverished that he hath no oblation chooseth a tree that will not rot; he seeketh unto him a cunning workman to prepare a graven image, that shall not be moved. Have ye not known? have ye not heard? hath it not been told you from the beginning? have ye not understood from the foundations of the earth? It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in: that bringeth the princes to nothing; he maketh the judges of the earth as vanity. Yea, they shall not be planted; yea, they shall not be sown: yea, their stock shall not take root in the earth: and he shall also blow upon them, and they shall wither, and the whirlwind shall take them away as stubble. To whom then will ye liken me, or shall I be equal? saith the Holy One. Lift up your eyes on high, and behold who hath created these things, that bringeth out their host by number: he calleth them all by names by the greatness of his might, for that he is strong in power; not one faileth. Why sayest thou, O Jacob, and speakest, O Israel, My way is hid from the LORD, and my judgment is passed over from my God? Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, that the everlasting God, the LORD, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? there is no searching of his understanding. He giveth power to the faint; and to them that have no might he increaseth strength. Even the youths shall faint and be weary, and the young men shall utterly fall: but they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.” ‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭40:1-31‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Sir Roger speaks at 9:50

17:50 _ 18:20 ... this is happening in GERMANY too . as it is in France , as we . i ' m afraid it will BREAK . i do analize these mentioned issues . and compare to what it was . two so traditional countries .

@teresaloureiro2525

3 жыл бұрын

18:40 ... YES . television and internet .

The past was a golden age. No one's teeth fell out, no one starved to death, summary and public execution were not common place, sewage wasn't considered dealt with if thrown into a street, sexual abuse of children wasn't considered abuse, child prostitution was unknown, there were not hundreds of capital crimes, slavery wasn't widespread and children and entire families being worked to death in factories was unknown. Then TV and the Pill came along and then the West fell apart. No Scruton laments that a golden age for mostly English Men like himself has passed into history & their inheritors in New York & Washington are also slowly losing their primacy. If you view the world from the ivory tower of the academy then the the world can indeed look ugly, but Scruton is hardly the first privileged academic to do that.

@michaelricketson1365

Жыл бұрын

If someone had a superior sort of life and way of being, don’t you want that too?

@javierpacheco8234

Жыл бұрын

I'm poor but I still agree with him. Beauty does matter.

When you have such a prominent speaker, don't make the audience and the speaker wait so long. 2 people should not have to introduce speaker. Sir Roger Scruton's bio not in video or intro. I have never seen the accomplishments of such a prominent speaker dismissed in a long intro??

@blahdeblah6207

5 жыл бұрын

Behold, the Presentation Nazi. The irony is that Scruton's groupies can't see that his presentation isn't the most valuable group of ideas presented here.

Scruton remains so valuable ... in fact, if anything, he has become more valuable. Maybe He took him away when He did to save him from the exponential increase of ugliness that has happened since.

Pointless and wearisome introduction as ever with formal events. Why not introduce the man for thirty seconds and let him talk. Time is always on the short end for some reason but wordy introductions (9 damned minutes here) are always accommodated.

@charlespeterson3798

5 жыл бұрын

What a pointless, ah, never mind.

@TheCrusaderRabbits

5 жыл бұрын

Too bad KZread doesn't come with a fast forward feature...

@blackandwhiterag1117

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheCrusaderRabbits Oh but it does. Just drag the red dot along the progress bar until you arrive at the place you want !

@blahdeblah6207

5 жыл бұрын

@Bajro You'll love the remarks about utility, mediocrity, and philistinism.

@mosesgarcia9443

3 жыл бұрын

Some people have earned such long introductions. Patience is a virtue. 😃

..nice flag..

Counterpoint, have you checked out Pottery Barn?

I love Scruton's subtle stab at gay marriage. I love it.

@kamilziemian995

5 жыл бұрын

In the end, all conservatives will accept gay marriage as human right, because they have nothing more to oppose it outside attachment to what is now. This attachment fade away and you end with UK Conservative Party. This is way I really dislike conservatism. It preserves nothing.

@thadtuiol1717

Жыл бұрын

@@kamilziemian995 Conservatives are just liberals doing the speed limit. Or, if you prefer, Conservatives are just the liberals of 5 years ago.

Does anyone know what he actually meant in plain language?

I would loved to have asked RS if he would chose a highly functional ugly building - or - a beautiful one not up to the job?

America..are we the ugliest society in the world? This past year certain demonstrates that...but thats the 'tail' our true 'body' is so much more admirable...can we all please make an effort..

Imagine this is your husband and you have a quarrel. How can you ever win 😂

How many children would agree that beauty exists in some of these institutions?

@Blissblizzard

7 ай бұрын

The Woke Institutions? or "The Victoria's Secrets Island" that all the shakers and movers were flown too?

Why must all be attributed to some greater religious power? If we should strive for a society free of consumerist and sensationalist, reactionary stimuli, a society where the act of being is given meaning again and appreciated to a degree where we do not need to strive for more than to be good to ourselves and others, is it not a fallacy to attribute it all to religious beliefs? If it is done, then it is implied that there is indeed not intrinsic meaning in being and beauty, but that it must all be the result of some greater power, is not God in that sense an easy solution to the problem, a quick fix? It's a part of philosophy I've always had a irk with.

"But the wicked are like the tossing sea, For it cannot be quiet, And its waters toss up refuse and mud." So Isaiah is a little dirty too, with all that refuse and mud, in addition to the wickedness.

Even the most beautiful thing requires a foil. And therefore even the most beautiful thing requires a certain amount of ugliness. A novel or a play without a bad character in it would be incomplete as an exploration of the moral universe. Shakespeare's sonnets have their Dark Lady as well as Fair Youth. Every sonnet has its volta. Slight irregularities are the lifeblood of the rhythm both of music and of verse. Every novel must have it's longueurs. Poetry its prosaic passages. Opera its recitatives. The church year has its ordinary days as well as its festivals, and its fast days as well as its feast days. Contrast of opposites, balance and variety is the very lifeblood of beauty. Even to the point of their complete superposition. As in the counterpoint of Bach, the balanced antithesis of Pope, the oxymoron of Shakespeare, and the complementary colour schemes of Matisse.

He keeps talking about the beauty associated with Christianity, has he never seen the Buddhist temples and statues of Japan?

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If my room looks good to me, I don't need others to tell me that it does.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder ... :)

@terryernest6264

5 жыл бұрын

EClaire S ... One persons beauty is another persons ugly ... one person taste has got to come down to the individual ...you can't have committee decide what peoples tastes should be ... art is Communication ... that's not necessarily beautiful ...you can not put a fence around what is Art . In saying that people shouldn't have Art impose on them either ...the indigenous people who live within immediate vicinity should have a big say if it's in the public environment ...

@terryernest6264

5 жыл бұрын

EClaire S ... I guess there are general denominators, due to our our existence over the past 40 thousand years ... when we see a view deep down it probably means, food, water, and shelter.. the fact that we are in no immediate danger from a Predator ... Some natural phenomena such a the golden section found in all forms of harmony and music! ... are probably common to most. Beauty is only one aspect of Art ... like you say excrement can't be described as beautiful ...but most Jews would find excrement smeared over a portrait of Hitler very satisfying ... where the majority would find it distasteful ...as in the words of Paul Simon " one mans ceiling is another man floor" :)

@terryernest6264

5 жыл бұрын

EClaire S ...There is beauty... but that beauty depends on the individual ...some western people has it's own idea of beauty, whereas an African might prefer a different shape /look /music and Art...neither choice are necessarily right or wrong ... it like food just a personal preference... I personally try to enjoy all beauty that I come in contact with ...but I sure my personal taste won't be the same as your in all cases.

@terryernest6264

5 жыл бұрын

EClaire S ...For me the closer to our true nature, which would for me be closer to the geometrics of nature ...as found in the Fibonacci series with the harmonic ratio would be a good start since it is the skeleton which nature dresses... the further away from nature in my opinion the Uglier it gets ...sometimes art is trying to communicate Ugliness... as Jesus submerged in urine, you might no like it but it's thought provoking Art.

@terryernest6264

5 жыл бұрын

EClaire S ...That's the point I'm making beauty is in the eye of the beholder ... Some people just see weeds, I see beauty in gods work ... www.deviantart.com/greensap/art/Yavana-Garden-175404514

09:49

Excellent! But can sufficiently explain why Scruton thinks beauty is not transcendental? If Beauty is strongly tied to truth and goodness both of which are transcendental, why should beauty not be treated the same way?

@Blissblizzard

7 ай бұрын

Beauty without truth is Beauty traduced is why. Beauty has been used to sell every kind of vice and evil is why.

1:22:50 ... ABSURD ! READ BELOW ! This , WE HAD it ... it was HARD the EUROPEAN POORNESS ... BUT GERMANY , to Me , with ETHICS . SO , of COURSE I DO MISS .

@teresaloureiro2525

3 жыл бұрын

MY COMMENTS WERE DELETED AGAIN ! This is VIOLENCE .

When he was betrayed by the Tories was the moment I knew the so called Conservative party was well and truly dead

"All art is propaganda." George Orwell

The foxes will be thankful, especially to those who can appreciate their Beauty. Sartre was probably wrong in some social or philosophical aspects but certainly was right concerning the Ugliness of mediocrity. As the man is, so will be his ultimate truth, said Carl Jung. Alléluia!

Beauty is neither pompous nor exclusive.

YES , SAINT.JEAN de la CROIX - and LA NUIT OBSCURE - and other CATHOLIC PHILOSOPHERS KNOWN as SAINTS , SAINT FRANCIS , SAINT THOMAS etc . the GNOSTICS ... and others in HINDUISMUS . the UNKNOWN WRITERS of I GING . etc . read them all .

@teresaloureiro2525

3 жыл бұрын

... and JESUS HIMSELF .

If the story is ugly but real .don't be fake.

More scrollwork, less skrillex!

Here we see the problem with religious institutions of 'higher learning', one which perhaps needs no pointing out. Those who inhabit them never leave off using them to justify the 'religious position', which is that there is some unseen force in the sky or wherever to which we ought to submit and devote ourselves. The point is thus not learning at all, although they might regard it as such, but the spread of religious faith. The will of this unseen force cannot be known directly, but is nonetheless very helpfully rendered directly not only into words but into actual commands which we are supposed to follow, by workers in or on behalf of one or more of the churches, based on old stories, alleged special abilities to communicate with the unseen force, sheer contemplation, or would-be brilliantly reasoned speculation. An enormous selling job is necessitated by this far-fetched package of assertions, and the job is never done. As we see in the video, it requires the attempt to build a creaky and ungainly tower of pathetic and embarrassing rearguard justifications which are palpably insincere: one can easily tell that these academics (not including Professor Scruton) do not believe what they are saying. One can also easily tell that they do not expect to be believed. Whether they are fully aware of their own unbelief I cannot say for sure.

I APOLOGIZE for THINGS I SAY HERE and other LECTURES , or if I SHOW YOU a COGNITIVE MISTAKE - without arrogance . NO EGO , in this CONTEXT . and others . BUT BUT BUT , YOU WOULD BE MORE CONVINSABLE , WHEN it COMES to SHOW what a CONSERVATIVE is , or BEING CONSERVATIVE , if YOU WOULD BE BETTER PRESENTED . I AM SORRY . YOUR HAIR is CHARMING . BUT YOU COULD COMB it . these are things i hear about You . NOT ALL CAN SEE THINGS INSIDE CONTEXTS .

43:15 ... 43:38 ... / 49:55 ... YES . THEY HATE it . I SUFFER TERRIBLY UNDER THEIR ATTACKS .

@teresaloureiro2525

3 жыл бұрын

THEY HAVE EVEN DESTROYED what is the most BEAUTIFUL and SACRED I HAVE HERE . BOOKS . FAMILY THINGS . EUROPEAN TRADITIONS .

@DariaRock1

3 жыл бұрын

Which attacks? I studied philosophy and Christian philosophy in Vienna and what I survived in the past decade is unbeliavable. Lyme disease battle.

This whole ugliness is mostly visible on "modern women" in the west!!

@acropolisnow9466

3 жыл бұрын

you can say that again

@thadtuiol1717

Жыл бұрын

Compare women of today with women from 60, 70 years ago. There's been a definite decline in femininity and rise in BMI

Uhh, does he really believe in a god? Brilliant fellow of course, but, alas, as Shakespeare wrote re immortality...

@ John Crosby (or: Dietrich von Hildebrandt, who he is referring to, starting at 40:38): What an ugly way of looking at the world and your fellow men! Beauty does not demand anything. You and your prejudices might. But with beauty there is no duty involved. You can only react to it, but there is no demand, which is inherent to beauty. This guy (I do not care, if he is a professor or not) might be able to enjoy the beauty of beautiful things, but he is, obviously, incapable of understanding a very different kind of beauty: the beauty of the individual attributes of his fellow men. His position is so full of resentment, and superstition that I find it hard to believe that a person, with a soul as gentle as Sir Roger Scruton, would share those prejudices.

I only see beauty

@bradleywilliams9896

5 жыл бұрын

You really shouldn't operate a motor vehicle.

@jhgosnell

5 жыл бұрын

There is a lot of poop in San Francisco that might beg to differ....

@1N73RC3P7OR

5 жыл бұрын

@@afterlate8866 You don't need such excess of ugliness in order to enjoy beauty.

@1N73RC3P7OR

5 жыл бұрын

@@afterlate8866 That would be true if there wasn't an instinct to recognize beauty. Sure some people might find, for example, a certain historic painting to be ugly, but the exception proves the rule. It is exactly such moral relativism that has led us to where we are now- ugly architecture, ugly paintings, and one might argue ugly fasion as well. This must cease.

Sadly to say, Roger Scruton was used as clickbite. Form me it is sign of lowering of standards of HildebrandLegacy.

@timh3972

4 жыл бұрын

What do you mean?

@kamilziemian995

4 жыл бұрын

@@timh3972 That in video title is only Roger Scruton, but he is one of three panelist in first 54 minutes. After that he dominated discusion panel, what is easy to understood.

Does anyone have an example of a city "we" don't want to live in because it has been "uglified" by the modernists et al. How can such a claim be anything but an opinion? (Roger Scruton would have rejected, oh, the Vietnam Memorial and the Guggenheim Bilbao, two ugly things, one that is the best war memorial in all history and the other a single building that transformed, put on the map, a city.)

F

9 minutes of nothing to start . Jump ahead to high value content skipping the blabber.

I share Scruton's elevation of the value of beauty. But I like my beauty without the right-wing politics.

@robertwoodpa6463

2 жыл бұрын

I love his politics. I have Leftism shoved down my throat on an almost daily basis. With Biden and the Democrats running our country down the toilet you must be a very happy man indeed!

@noshirm6285

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertwoodpa6463 AGREED WITH YOU!!! 👏🏻🤗👏🏻

Seems so myopic as he advocates the free market yet decries its fruits.

@sanniepstein4835

3 ай бұрын

Have you seen Soviet architecture?

12244 no ... not la ... do not forget that , la was extraordinarily buils by europe ... specially in brazil ... cities in neo classic and baroque ... and it was the European elite who moved to live there due to the wars in Europe ... from napoöeon till ww2 . the worst was and is in USA and comunist Germany , those who even destroy the beauty and the clean . wwhat has happened in brazil is that , the race which came as slaves and others without education , after the colonization time , destroyed everything , to build the worst architecture that exist all over the world , after the ww2 , these blocks of beton . destroyed everything . all over the world . i have all documentation about it . the glass buildings are not ugly at all . if you do not like it , is different . the post modern . but you can not repeat this all the time without verifying the reality of it . and , in brazil , is fully different , from all colonization , once it was empty , just nature was there . so , no mix up with natives . what happened has with all colonization .

@teresaloureiro2525

3 жыл бұрын

what i have lived there , in a daily basis , as well , i have never , never seen in Europe or USA . justb in rome . a beautiful table , for instance , on a daily basis . the so known ' Brazilians ' - a new race - have destroyed cities ... these in neo classic - as pairs - and baroque style . and the most beautiful opera house ,for instance , is exactly in rio . more than in pairs . all this , what explains , i supposr , my passion for marmor , old mirrors , velvets , silks , etc . the five o ' clock tea , with the little canapes , etc . all this is root , as well , and impregnates a child . art deco , our building , etc . the horror of beton blocks - which are present all over the world - are the monsters which should be destroyed . and the poor result of bauhaus and le corbusier . it is dramatic to me , to see the old architecture , all over , in the new world , europe , asia , Islam countries , with these beton monsters .

@teresaloureiro2525

3 жыл бұрын

ONE CAN NOT DENY a REALITY of BEAUTY . GEOGRAPHICALLY , as YOU HAVE BEEN DOING . And SOME OTHERS IGNORANTS without EXPERIENCE of LIFE . The EUROPEAN CULTURAL ELITE - FIVE HUNDRED YEARS AGO , including the WHOLE COURT , KING and QUEEN - DUE to the NAPOLION WARS - and it ' s WHOLE CULTURAL TREASURES , from MANNERS till STYLES , ARCHITECTURE , BILDING CITIES in NEO-CLASSIC and BARROQUE STYLES , CLASSICAL MUSIC and MUSICIANS , including from EASTERN EUROPE BEFORE the COMUNISM _2nd WORLD WAR , these , SPECIALLY THROUGH the WISE RUSSIA - LITERATURE , PHILOSOPHY , TASTES , FASHIONS , FOOD , as well , THOSE WHO WENT to SOUTH AMERICA , SPECIALLY BRAZIL . And to USA , MORE RUSTIC . EVEN if NICE . I HAVE MYSELF CELTIC BLOOD , BESIDES ALL OTHERS from EUROPE . BUT BRAZILIANS HAVE DESTROYED EVERYTHING . And CONSTRUCTED these MENTIONED BETON BLOCKS . NO SENSIBILITY .

@teresaloureiro2525

3 жыл бұрын

( I WILL EDIT THE COMMENTS ABOVE , WRITTEN VERY FAST , and WITHOUT the POSSIBILITY - DUE TO ILLNESS - TO WRITE FAST AND TYPE WITHOUT MISTAKES . I APOLOGIZE . )

12228 ... do not mention LATIN AMERICA in this context . BECAUSE THEY HAD . HAD , PAST TENSE . and WE , EUROPEANS , MOVED to LA , 600 YEARS AGO , due to WARS in EUROPE . COLONIZED BY CATHOLIC EUROPE . and EVEN OTHER , ' communities ' , as YOU PUT , in ASIA , ISLAM CONTINENT , and EVEN AFRICA HAD HIGH CULTURES in their TRADITIONS . CHECK HISTORY . JUST the NORTH HEMISPHERE DIDNT HAVE HIGH CULTURES . it was RUSTIC and BARBARIANS . PAGANS . BUT it WAS CONSTRUCTED . NO DOUBT . CHECK HISTORY . MAYBE WIKIPEDIA WILL HELP YOU .

Ugliness forces it into our lives by BAD music everywhere.

The most moder art are not art and they are not artists. because you use colours painting e.t.c you are not a artist. You are not s doctor before you get educated it is the same with art

Condems,and rightly so the Ugleyness of the world and then goes fox hunting .