That panic button is really a button that shows they know their target audience. Dont know how to feel about it

@Keybored

Жыл бұрын

Hahahaha it was the most ridiculous thing I've seen on a keyboard. But I need to macro that button now for my customs

@ryelo5448

Жыл бұрын

@@Keybored send if you make since that to funny to not have

@onion_____

Жыл бұрын

10 year olds

@_ExTitus

Жыл бұрын

qmk sleep macro

Grats on 100k :) The videos just keep getting better and better

@Keybored

Жыл бұрын

Almost there! I think by end of day today hopefully :) thanks for dropping by!

I wonder if any of these gaming companies have actually taken notes from the custom keyboards scene, such as standard bottom row, better stabs, etc

@Keybored

Жыл бұрын

I think gaming and customs will come to a point soon... seems like everything is blending together now

@karnudom

Жыл бұрын

Razer tried.... cannot really say they succeeded.

@AxisCorpsRep

Жыл бұрын

glorious tried, they made a subpar product and accessories because they just wanted to say "we sell those too"

@echohotelsix

Жыл бұрын

My sister's friend gonna give her brother a 200 usd e-waste aka alienware mechanical keyboard for christmas gift. I said there are other keyboards with better value but since she worked in Dell, she said she will get easier access to RMA thingy and probably will get staff discount as well. Welp 🤷‍♂️

@AxisCorpsRep

Жыл бұрын

@@echohotelsix lmao a keyboard with RMA, they know something's going to break and have to return it

Probably the most honest review of ‘gaming keyboards’ I’ve watched in a long time😅👍🏾

Those stabs are actually not bad stock, pretty surprising from such a basic design. All in all, I think these keyboards a bit expensive, but not necessarily criminally overpriced. I can see why people would be interested in these, but with the lack of customization offered from the custom switch design, meaning no switch swap or other keycaps, this is isn't a keyboard I'm interested in.

@Keybored

Жыл бұрын

Very good point here. I wish it'll take standard mx stems! From what I gathered, you're paying for "gamer" features it seems

A game-changing difference is that fast wireless connections are very rare with custom keyboards but are much more commonly found in gaming keyboards. Having a slow connection to the keyboard is very noticeable.

Great video and the deep dive is really appreciated. I think this video is going to help alot of people. I also love the arbitrary typing demo at the end for the sake of consistency, lol. Thanks, Scott!

I think this board is a bit pricey, although what I did take from this is that, optical switches might be better for Rhythm games. Overall, pretty good review video especially with the numbers part. Glad to see your voice is better now as well!

@Keybored

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! You do get a bit of speed and it seems like consistency with these switches... I don't game enough where it provides me something earth shattering :)

@your_average_cultured_dude

Жыл бұрын

if you want a keyboard specifically for rhythm games, get the wooting keyboard with hall effect switches. it's good enough that it became controversial in the osu! community.

@chunkymilk1288

Жыл бұрын

@@your_average_cultured_dude can you give me a tldr? Haven’t been invested in osu since the pp rework

@snoopertrooper4468

Жыл бұрын

@@chunkymilk1288 The keyboards main game breaking feature is that after a key has been actuated, the key instantly resets as the key travels upwards again, allowing a user to actuate the key again while the key is still travel upwards. The controversy is that the keyboard allowed people to instantly stream 300bpm when they couldnt before. Imo i see the keyboard as something that draws out a players true potential and removes the variable of delay.

@chunkymilk1288

Жыл бұрын

@@snoopertrooper4468 that sounds fair as long as everyone has access to it. I used double stage springs for the quicker upstroke, I guess this is just a better version of that lol

100K BABY WHOOOO ily keybored congrats, I have been watching since 50k, loved the part at 1:07

Great video. Thank you for the testing.

Congrats on 100k! I look forward to seeing you make it big on the keyboard community on KZread!

Congrats on 100k Scott! Your vids are very helpful in modding my boards.

You are so close to 100k!!!! LETS GOOO KEEP THE GRIND UPP THESE VIDS ARE BANGERS!!

@Keybored

Жыл бұрын

So close! Still can't believe it!

Great video as always.. 👍 and also you're so close... 99.7K... 100K today 🔥🔥

@Keybored

Жыл бұрын

I hope so! 100K Here we come!

Pre Gratz on 100k!

Your videos are always nice to watch, thank you

Congrats on 100k!

Thanks for your entertaining videos Scott. Hope you're feeling better.

i think a "game over tipping point" will be when Wooting release a wireless version of their Wooting 2 HE or the Wooting 60 HE, hall effect switches and wireless = game over. built for genuinely improving performance and not built for xmas lights competition!

THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO!

Congratulations for the 100K

oh gosh Scott, you’ve really outdone yourself with this intro! Only thing that could be more entertaining is a live reaction video of your wife watching this! Really appreciate the thoughtfulness you put into this video, I think it could have easily been an opportunity to dunk on the product without an effort to understand the target audience, but you put in real effort to help quantity the advantages it might offer without sugarcoating real results.

In fighting games where inputs on a specific key frame in a combo matter in order to properly animation cancel an attack or skill, lightning fast debounce like these switches "could" help out those people that play on keyboard specifically. Perhaps in the future we could see high-end fighting stick manufacturers incorporate optical switches like these in their line up too. I'M LOOKING AT YOU QANBA, RAZER

@termitreter6545

Жыл бұрын

Its nice to remove any source of lag, but I dont think this would make much of a difference. Cherry MX switches are rated for 5ms debounce time, so a well optimized keyboard doesnt got much delay at all. And even a good PC setup with a very fast monitor usually has 20ms of visual input lag or more, so you never get perfect reaction times either.

@kmah324

Жыл бұрын

@@termitreter6545 Big mistake here. Not only is bounce a source of latency, so is the polling rate, scan rate, good code on the mcu, etc. This all adds up to most keyboards not being 'ultra' suitable for a lot of competitive games. Razer and Wooting make good pcbs but they need that Moondrop dash treatment.

@termitreter6545

Жыл бұрын

@@kmah324 I dont see how that has anything to do with what I wrote? Were talking if the debounce rate is a big problem. If your polling/scan rate is terrible, then it will make problems with long debounce less relevant if anything.

@kmah324

Жыл бұрын

@@termitreter6545 well, no. A 5 ms bounce time is something you'd probably want to avoid in the first place and what I'm saying is having the other issues on top of that makes the overall situation worse. You can even make an easy to understand situation where you want a lower debounce time than 5 ms in music rythem games or in fighting games with tight execution windows (taunt jet upper with Bryan in Tekken 7 is one such real world example). If x action takes y number of frames of leeway, you want the input latency and it's S.D to be much smaller than the window of time allowed (eg much smaller than y) for the highest chance of success of executing the desired event. Saying that because the scanrate is poor therefore debounce is less of an issue is flawed because you still want to aim for the lowest input latency possible, not increase it for no reason.

@termitreter6545

Жыл бұрын

@@kmah324 Sure, its always best to have the lowest input lag possible, and its add up. Im not competitive, but im somewhat sensitive to lag too. Im just saying this one is a very small difference, and I dont think it will help in the way OP described it. Especially since some fighting games in the past had big issues with input lag for some reason. IIRC Street Fighter 4 had something like 100ms of lag on PS4, and SF5 still has a lot of delayed frames. Which seems strange for competitive games tbh.

3:38. I'm still remembered how Logitech used to receive so much criticism and hatred for that switch's design (about how weak the keycap's stem to be easy broken and stuck inside the switch's stem). The tension was so high, that Logitech has to went back to the normal MX style switch design in the new G Pro X keyboard lol.

I really hope custom keyboard designers start encorporating more basic features like 1000hz refresh rate. It’s kinda annoying to have a 600dollar board that has 125hz and minor delays. Yeah it is barely noticeable but it’s such an easy fix idk why no one bothers

I love your intros, always so funny 😂😂😂

Hi keybored almost at 100k Subs! good job keep it up. Love your keyboard k videos. I was wondering if you wanted to review a budget keyboard. Its called the CIY gas67! Also, what are your favorite switches now.

8:26 - 8:34 I was not prepared for this!!! LOL! 🤣 Not interested in the keyboard, but dang your perspective made me at least watch the whole vid!

i was not expecting a reference to Pittsburgh from Keybored but steel city represent!

That grey cable that you use in all your videos, what is it please?

I thought I was limited in options with my Gateron Optical Blacks....these optical switches would really limit what you can do with them if you wanted to tinker...at least with mine I can swap them with other Gateron Opticals (there's like 5 of them in total?) or even get creative and create my own Frankenswitches (which I'm definitely thinking about) If I were super focused on gaming performance, I think the Wooting would be the clear choice in that area. Just a lot more you can do with their "analog" switches.

Hey, could you review some of the Daskeyboard line primarily the 5q and the professional and x50q I have the latter and it was my first mech and i recently bought and modded a razer and was curious how an enthusiast would review these keyboards and how you in particular would mod them….especially the x50q lol bc I would love to mod it 😅

@animedrummerboy

Жыл бұрын

Especially bc that model has a similar switch keycap Mount

You baited me hard with that stealth key line, you sir are a master baiter.

I have a Strix Flare with cherry MX red switches--pretty smooth. I can switch out most of the caps with my no longer working 'Deck Legend', which has higher quality double shot keycaps, if the strix caps begin to fade. I was able to put the cool skull and crossbones Deck 'esc' cap on to the Strix. Not sure I would buy a keyboard with switches that will not accept regular Cherry MX switches.

I say this all the time in my Mech community: I'm a programmer, not a pro-gamer

Personally my preference for the left ctrl is to remap my caps lock to left ctrl and put caps lock behind the fn layer. Yes I have 2 left ctrls. I honestly would've gotten one of these if I could easily remap the keys xD Honestly the switches actually feels really stable and smooth, even the sound isn't that offensive either. I feel like if Romer-Gs were these then it would've been a lot more successful than it was.

I love your intros

Im a bit confused at the reaction times, they dont really line up with other tests ive seen. 260ms seems extremely high. Most game input-lag tests usually only have ~50ms of lag if not using stuff like Vsync. Furthermore, the debounce time of cherry's is rated around 5ms; and in reality it supposedly more like ~10-15ms in a lot of boards. Makes me wonder, do you use text processing that has a delay for some reason? Maybe some windows desktop thing?

@ameserich

2 ай бұрын

It includes his own reaction time, meaning 200ms human + 50ms keyboard. Also maybe its also because of the faster actuation 1.5mm All mech and hall effect have 20-40ms delay, only opticals are capable of 2-8ms... though maybe there are onboard software fix on which the first debounce contact immediately registers input and ignore the bounces

Personally, I have the Strix Scope RX full size board and after lubing the optical switches, it is probably the most satisfying type feel board I have. The word that best describes this board is crispy. The switches are marketed as prelubed and after inspecting, they were very minimally lubed but they were already very smooth out of the box. The stabs aren't bad too and they were even better after lubing. I got the full-sized one for about $100 and I would say that it is worth every penny for all the features, the typing experience and RGB if you're into that. The features are actually useful, the larger ctrl key actually helps me (I do accidentally press the windows key occasionally when Im panicking in FPS games), and the RGB is much brighter than what you can get from even Razer. After going into the custom keyboard scene, I couldn't stop and I've sold all my big company keyboards except this one from ASUS alongside many other customs. It really is quite different, and I would recommend anyone in the scene to try them out if they can find one on display in a shop. The only downsides are the fixed cable and the proprietary keycaps. The extra $70 or so for the TKL Wireless just ain't worth it because theyre exactly the same.

99.9K! when i wake up i bet u will be at 100k

the wooting 60 he is the best for gaming rn and it sounds good stock

300 subs away from 100K! Congrats Scott

@Keybored

Жыл бұрын

Almost there! So close now!

That panic button is hilarious lmao

I mean hey, that panic button won't zip your pants up, but it's halfway there at least 😂

oh my god. i just realised why all my switches double tap. it's because my board has too low of a debounce delay! Thanks a lot

I think the Wooting 60HE would be a better representation of the Gaming Keyboard market at its best.

The wooting switches with their dynamic actuation point, which means anywhere on the length of the travel of the switch, any shift between upwards or downwards motion turns the switch on and off, so you can never miss an actuation point, it reads your intent from all movements of your finger, not just the ones where you manage to cross an arbitrary threshold. No mechanical switch can ever do such a thing without being massively overengineered. Corsair or whoever going for gaming performance should just clone that wooting feature with optical, rather than trying to lower the pretravel distance of less mechanically/optically sensitive switches. The way to improve on what Wooting achieved for gaming, is switch design changes or lubrication to make the movement as smooth as possible, maybe eventually something crazy like magnetic dynamic or multi-stage resistance (like PS5 triggers have) to make things like virtual dynamic tactile bumps, maybe n clicky button at the bottom of the switch for extra commands (hold to drive/run, click down further to toggle boost or sprint), and better keycap profiles and layouts suited to gaming. Wooting use a generic 60% layout, and there's no way that's optimal for games, especially with the caps lock key there which I've never once seen a game use, nor the windows key in favor of longer CTRL+ALT.

Ayyyyyy 100k

Can we get a Review on the Wooting 60he

My opinion on gami g hardware is to buy the stuff that helps you have the most fun. By their definition games atlre about fun. If one of these keyboards makes playing more fun for you then it's a good keyboard.

"Custom mechs are optimized for typing, gaming keyboards are optimized for gaming" is such a ludicrous statement. Also, 270 for a gaming keyboard seems pretty wild too.

LOL intros are the best

The next challenge is try to make one sound nice and like a hollow plastic box.

i appreciate you willing to do all that math

Yes new upload let's go!

@Keybored

Жыл бұрын

Let's go!

Well, most of the games I play are racing games, and keyboards are the last thing you want to play a racing game with, even if it's analog capable, a wheel is the way to go

100k lets gooooooo

I own a ROG Falchion, a 65% 'gaming keyboard' but I didn't like the switch, so i milmax it to a hotswap pcb and put on gateron pro yellow. Now i get a keyboard with better sound and boost my k/d ratio 😆

@longnguyencaotuan2267

Жыл бұрын

rog nx or cherry?

So close to 100k hope you get that silver playbutton.

The main problem I have with those switches is the 4 thin stems. I have had those snap and stay lodged into the holes that they were meant to be in, on my G413. To attempt a repair meant that I had to get a soldering iron, a replacement switch and keycap.

Unlubed sounds like applause

For me, it is all about the software/firmware. If boards in this category had QMK as an option, I would consider them. I do not see that happening.

"Oh noooo this keyboard has cancer" got me good lol

I WAS HIS HUNDREDTH SUBSCRIBER LETS GO

8:30 best part of the video LOL

As well I want to see a pro gamer play a game using ASUS keyboard versus keybored built custom keyboard and see which one the programmer prefers

@Keybored

Жыл бұрын

:) I gotta figure out how to make the "stealth" key on all my boards

I can’t with the sound. I’m spoiled now thanks to the keyboard community 😂

9:40 I would buy this key for alone for 50 bucks

@Keybored

Жыл бұрын

hahaha, the key is gold! I was like what the heck is this lol...

tbh for the high end version you'd be better off going for moondrop dash for prebuilts

from what i know is , a good gaming gear actually only tops out a potential gamer's limit , if you are a noob player , you will stay noob even you have the best gear from my experience ( i used to be a top tier dota player but freaking noob with FPS games lol)

With keyboards like the qk75 and zoom tkl in the same price range as this, i don't really see any way to justify buying one of these rog boards. The only explanation i can come up with is that people arent aware of the better options. Even if u want a prebuilt theres much better, cheaper options

Less than 100 subs to go🎉🎉

asus must be paying well with all these sponsorships on all the keyboard channels

Well, you should try our keyboard. It literally is better for gaming and made for gaming without marketing fluff.... and you can customize it 👀

@mahfudzk

Жыл бұрын

*Boss BGM starts playing in the background*

@hoppyt3ch

Жыл бұрын

how cool to see you guys here. nice!

You dirty bois, ur getting it wrong.... The stealth button is to hide your game at 3am when you're not supposed to be gaming

@Keybored

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha you know... For those late night studying sessions

So close to 100k subs!

@Keybored

Жыл бұрын

So close! Like 200 or so to go now!

8:32 LOL

@Keybored

Жыл бұрын

Lol that's what I thought

Try doing the Finalkey V65

nice your voice is back

@Keybored

Жыл бұрын

It's like 90% now! I hope it can be 100% this week :)

you may want to take a look at the Wooting 60HE, that is factually the best gaming keyboard

wow so pro, so gaming, so cool, makes me wanna trade my custom keyboard hehe

@Keybored

Жыл бұрын

:) Thanks for stopping by!

Glad you're okay now

@Keybored

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! Much better now!

sounds plasticky and hollow but I've heard worse, especially the stabs. Still a good job Asus. I wonder how it sounds when modded.

"Oh nooo! This keyboard has cancer!" 💀💀💀 That caught me off guard.

I know this keeb isn't about sound, but my ears went to the ER.

This was a great (and funny) video, and I appreciate that you actually considered what this keyboard could do that custom mechs can't. But I have to say, I hate that sound profile SO MUCH. That sound kept me away from mechanical keyboards for like 10 years - I thought they all sounded like that, all the time. Thank God that's not true.

I have the claymore 2 with blue switches, and i dont play anything... not even minesweper i use it to work... and i really love it... i use to have the logitech mx keys, te logitech mx ergo, and the logitech mx mechanical....that are all really good keyboards... but i prefer the typing experiende on the claymore 2... logitech and asus has really good keyboards... and the software on both of them are pretty good... the logitech software is more easy to use... but the asus software alows you to change the functionality of every key... something that you can do in the logitech software only in some keys... so... overall the logitech mx keys is mi second prefered keyboard... but i prefer the claymore 2 because the typing is much better... by the way i try tu use the numpad on the left side but simply cant do it... im so acostumed to the "normal" layout that my brain simply cant find the correct keys... so maybe for productivity the claymore is not the best keyboard because is expensive and anyway you will use it in the standard layout...

100k LEGGOOO

I love watching keyboard videos whit my mx blue.

@Keybored

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha

thanks A-SUS for making an emergency SUS key for my SUS needs.

Thank you for looking at gaming keyboard.

i wanna see a custom with gaming keyboard preformance but jokes on me they do nothing! (except for mb the hiding tabs feature) oh wait hi dad im not doing anything

Honestly if you're willing to put a bit of efforts into building your keyboard, for the prince point of "gaming keyboards" you can get yourself a really nice custom with amazing specs. This is like the difference between a prebuilt PC and something you assemble yourself. Plus these keebs sound absolutely terrible. As someone's who's used to tuning for feel and sound, this is honestly unforgiveable at that price.

"Gaming" keyboards nowadays should've use Hall effect instead of optical. because if it's just about optical then Keychron also have them.

Love this video, a gaming keyboard has a place in the market. Not everyone wants or need a custom board. It’s all about personal preference and keeping an open mind. Thank you for a great video!

You should research 60HE from Wooting

I think there are a lot better board on the market like the deathadder and the wooting

a keyboard made out of the silver play button would be a great 100k special

Was about to ask why the dust 2 csgo map was in the background. Also this is ironic because they just replaced the dust 2 csgo map (almost the same day this video dropped). Rip!

southpaw is nice but you cant mirror the layout sadge