Rocket Stove Heater is UL-Certified for Use In Residential HOMES! Liberator Rocket Stove Heater
This is not a paid video. We are reviewing the Liberator rocket stove and trying to share information about rocket stoves and how amazing they are.
Liberator Rocket Stove:
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Rocket Mass Heater Builder's Book:
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Rocket Mass Heater Pebble Bench Building pdf at permies:
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I love this guy, He's gotta be the real St. Nick!😄
Myself and many others don't have anyone in person to teach us about these things so the knowledge that you and your family give is very precious. God bless!
if you keep a large pan of water on top , to boil, it will add humidity, and feel warmer. It also helps skin from drying out, and static in hair and clothes. love wood heat.
If you are truly interested in heating for comfort with any burning appliance, you must plan for and implement 2 features. 1. You must bring in ALL the combustion air from outside via a sealed duct. Stoves consume a very large quantity of air. All the air comes from outside anyway. But If you draw the combustion air from within the room, the Vacuum created by the stove/chimney draft will pull in its air from every leak/opening in your envelope. How well is your floor sealed? Without outside ventilation you could be drawing significant amounts of crawlspace or basement air thru your living space… This airflow into the stove sends the warmest air up the chimney and makes the perimeter of the room always feel cool as it is always being fed with cold outside air. Ever wonder why people with wood stoves complain about it being a dry heat? This air exchange is why... 2. Provide additional room air directly to the stove. A concentrated heat source like a wood stove, depending on how well your upper envelope is sealed, can create a stack effect within the structure, that causes the same issue. Hot air escapes out the top, being replaced by cool outside air. By providing fresh outside air with a small fan directly to the stove to be heated, you will raise the air pressure around the stove which will in turn force the cooler perimeter air in the room out thru those leaks. It is of course best to seal the envelope as much as possible to cut down on the volume of wood needed to maintain temp. It does not take much forced air to the stove to make a HUGE difference in room comfort. A 4” computer fan works well. Is inexpensive and quiet, and provides several hundred CFM. The addition of a heat plate with a gap between the stove and plate, into which you blow this fresh air improves heating efficiency drastically. Have heated with wood most of my life and wished I knew these two things a very long time ago:)
I've been watching your rocket stove adventure for years. Just yesterday I received notice that my brand new UL listed Liberator rocket stove has shipped to my home. I'm excited to see your upcoming adventures with the Liberator.
Regardless of using a wood, pellet, coal stove and even oil or gas fueled furnaces and boilers, these devices need air intake. Most do not think about installing a separate air intake system that brings outside air to the stoves. If a independent outside air intake is not installed, then these stoves are pulling in its air intake need by way of drafts throughout the home. Many of the newer designed oil and gas fired boilers have this separate air intake from outside air designed in its installation requirements. The wood, pellet and coal stove designs do not and rely on the customer to install if they wish. Some Mfg' s don't even mention it.
@garyj9855
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One last note, one need to know how much air intake a stove need to burn efficiently. If you do not provide adequate air supply ( and have sealed up your home drafts) the stove may not operate properly or efficiently.
@homefrontforge
Жыл бұрын
Way more important than a lot of people realize. Thanks
If you have a properly working Blaze King stove it heats all night with one fill. The fire has to be run wide open to get it hot. Once it gets hot the dampers have to be closed.
@aallan7476
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There had to be something wrong with the blaze king stove or chimney to use that much wood in one season. Like a door seal needing replacement or a damaged damper. I’m 2 hours south of Alaska and we go through maybe 4 cords from October to April!
I love the concept of the rocket stove. Thanks for the instructional video.
WOW! I will be so interested to watch your reports on this heater. Great Video!
You can get double walled insulated flue pipe which stops the creosote from forming.
If you are looking for more ideas to squeeze out more heat from your stack. There is the simple "Wood Stove Heat Reclaimer". For homemade improvements, look at a diagram of the heat exchanger in a natural gas furnace. There are multiple tubelike exchangers, some are narrow to increase surface area, you'd want the cumulative area to equal or exceed the area of your chimney to not cause restrictions. I would get 2 sheets of 12"x24" sheet metal, 16 gauge, stack them together, then drill evenly spaced holes where 3/8" copper pipe will fit snugly. Use the 2 sheets and add more sheets to build a steel box 6"x12"x24" and braze 7" long copper tubes (1/2" overhang on each side). On one side build an air plenum and add a duct down to your floor, where you add a fan to suck the coldest air from the floor. You'd add this to your heat stack. You can also add a false bottom to your existing gravel box, and drill lots of holes in it, and add a fan to force air up thru the gravel - because the hotter the gravel gets, the less heat it will absorb.
@MrSprintcat
Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't this cause a bunch of condensation to occur in the chimney pipe?
@jasonfoster9118
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I'm getting ready to experiment with something similar, only with a 55 gallon drum instead of a heat exchanger. I'm going to build in a clean out/inspection door so I can make sure it's not building up creosote. My flue temp leaving the stove is 250F a lot of the time. A metal drum will double the surface area of my stove, albeit cooler than my stove. I'm hoping for 30% gain in btu output.
The liberator looks nice, I've been debating on installing one in my garage and running the duct work through the furnace plenum so I could heat the garage and the house at the same time! So if Liberator is watching I can do it on my channel! Lol
One key factor to efficiently heating a space is reduce the heat loss through windows, walls, and ceilings. If the heat loss is high you will only be comfortable when the fire is burning, regardless of the heater type. Rocket stoves are the most efficient burning of all wood stoves. They have most heat and least ash. Your mass does not have to be in the chimney. If you have a few tons of stone and masonry material near the stove and is heated to room temperature it will maintain that temperature for a long time if it is not in a drafty area. Many people fail to reduce outside drafts through the building. In a well insulated home you may be able to maintain room temperature with a rocket mass stove with only 4 hour burn per day in Idaho winters. If the home is not well insulated you can burn same stove 24 hours per day and feel warmth next to the mass. In the same thought, you can affordably heat a well insulated home comfortably with a baseboard or space heater. Hint, use low-e windows, seal all cracks behind mouldings, and go with thick batt insulation.
Just wanting to tell you that YOU and YOUR family are so very special to many of us. It is almost like you time jumped forward just to report backward to us?! Anyway, I know that you popped into my mind for some reason. May you and your family be blessed. Oh what an answered prayer that is at 4:45! hank you so much for the posting~ sending love from your Southern Home.
Really cool tech...suggest you get a Magic Heat...it does use a cord for fan, but you can recover another 8 -10k btus that wastefully goes up the stack....simple design heats pipes, fan turns on pushes Heat through room......also a Kettle stove might work well for you also...no electric just thermal heat operates fan, military used to use...Heat...is Great! Cheers!
You are the perfect family to try something like this out I'm so excited for you thank you for sharing this with us I'm hoping to have a wood burning stove in my next home and I'm learning a lot from you guys
Great video, we are using a old school wood circulator up here in SD and have burned 3-4 cord so far this year. It's only December 😬 3 more months of heavy burning
I've been toying with the idea of getting a rocket stove myself. As for the safety aspect of fencing it off I was actually thinking of using cast iron radiators with A continuous flow of water. Hook that up to your baseboard system with A continuous circulator running to spread the heat throughout the house.
Awesome! I was just looking into these a few days ago. Thank you for your review.
If you add a few apples to your bin of potatoes, it will prevent eyes from forming. I have done this for years, so add 3 to 12 potatoes.
I had to measure my pipe 19 and 1/4 in on the hopper pipe. Also I added a small cookie sheet to the back side of my Hopper just leaning against my stove on the edge of my Hopper, that made a hundred degrees difference on my Hopper.
Yes, building a bench would be perfect for a greenhouse. This is something I am definitely interested in for home, shop, greenhouse...dare I say barn?
I was sold on buying a Liberator , Then you showed me it was brick lined Rocket tube ... And I was yes this is what I want....BTW nice leveraging the stove in the box down your stairs good job !
Hey! That's the dude from reno 911!
We had the small Blaze king Manitoba Canada which is as cold as Mars in winter. Heating 800 sq ft we burnt 2 1/2 cords. At minus 40 degrees we would have our front door open with only half screen door. I think the catalytic converter was no good on that stove. That stove you should have been able to heat 2000 sq ft. when in good condition. It is very important to have your home with positive pressure, forcing out the cold from draft areas. We brought in cold air from outside to the back of the stove. Good luck with your new stove, I’ve heard very good reviews.
Both are very do-it-yourself friendly and super cost effective, but weatherstripping exterior doors and attic hatch.....and blown in attic insulation are often a huge help with homes older than 20 years. I cut my heating bills by 30% and eliminated drafts which made my home much more comfortable.
Interesting build and infrastructure. Is this a multi fuel unit? I knew someone that used dry kernel corn in place of pellets. The corn was less expensive than pellets, perhaps it wasn’t stored properly and became rancid or moldy. Regarding the creosote water, when the weather improves remove the exterior elbow and replace it with a T-fitting. It will allow water to flow past the wall thimble and when the bottom cap is removed, water can be drained and chimney brushes can be inserted and scrubbed from the bottom-up rather than the roof-down. Thanks for sharing this insightful video. Wishing you and your family a blessed holiday season, gentle weather and restful evenings. Peace
I just looked on their site and they have a really neat special running for those struggling to heat their home
@dirtpatcheaven
5 ай бұрын
Good! Thank you for sharing!
Great video😊. THANKS❤
I like your shirt at 19:41 and the thumbnail. My wife would say I resemble either the far-right or the far-left hominid. 💻🐒
Great demo -- thanks for sharing with us.
Thank you.
I’m so excited for your family! I have been looking at this stove for a couple of months. I just could not find any recent information about this stove as far as someone using it . Thank you for this information
I saw the door hit you in the butt when you and hubby were getting the new stove inside, it was cute, I'm glad you weren't on your way out when that happened 😁
Wow it's cool that something like this exists. I knew about rocket stoves but first I hear of a UL one. I recently bought a wood stove for my house so that it can be WETT certified but cool that these are starting to take off (no pun intended) too. When I move off grid I do want to look at building one.
My parents cape cod style home had a wood stove in the fireplace up (1st floor) and down (basement). Filling up the stove and adjusting the damper it kept the 1,500 ft warm until 6am as the only source of heat. The upstairs was 2,100 ft and it supplement the first floor heating. The basement stove started heating at 5pm and heated until 6am. My parents didn’t want the stove with an actiVe fire while everyone was out of the house.
nice black socks, stove is amazing
If you cut 4" x10" holes from room where new rocket stove is, into any of the rooms above, install small inline fans, you can use a room thermostat to control each inline fan to control each area of upper home... I love this model ov stove, and want one. 👍👍
Great video!
1:12: 🔥 Efficient wood stove heating in basement living room, using a Blaze King Blaze princess stove, with a focus on heat efficiency and wood consumption. 4:35: 🔥 Excitement about installing the non-insulated Liberator stove and comparing it to the aircrete rocket stove in terms of heat and insulation. 9:42: ⚙️ UL-certified rocket stove heater for residential use with high-quality metal and safety features. 12:52: 🔥 Innovative homemade rocket stove insert for windows provides emergency heating, insulation, and customized use for residential homes. 17:43: 🔥 Assembly and features of a residential rocket stove heater demonstrated in a simple design and lightweight assembly. 22:54: ♨️ Rocket stove heater provides efficient heat with complete combustion, but requires precautions for safety and temperature control. 26:04: 🔥 Improvements made to the rocket stove heater setup to address flame and coal issues, including extending the hearth and using non-combustible materials. Recapped using Tammy AI
Gotta hand it to him you got those gals trained
That’s good to know Thank You ☺️
Wood boiler is the best solution for whole-home heat
Awesome rebuild
65 , we have our thermostat set at 55. We run an electric heater in the bathroom before showering so it's 65. If I still lived by my self the thermostat would be set to 50, and electric heat to 60 for showering.
I chose water for my mass, and a 1/2" pipe coiled around the riser pipe of the firebox to help heat the water, not complete yet, when done there's about a pallet of bricks, mortar, bentonite and pearlite around the rocket burner, and under 3 - 55 gallon drums for the water mass. If I have a cold room, I can pipe the water into the room with a radiator and fan to warm up the room.
After seeing what they're asking for their stove , I think I'll build it myself. 2-3 k is a bit much for what it is .
@merdoc81
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I've owned the 1st generation model for 2 years and I don't recommend it even if you wanted to blow that much mulah on one. I didn't buy all the pellet attachments I've only burned wood with it, but you gotta keep feeding it and babying it constantly. It burns for 1 hour max till you have to add more wood. I ended up buying a regular pellet stove from Lowes this fall because I broke my arm and couldn't cut wood it works just fine and very efficient and cost way less including the 80 bags of pellets I bought.
@WADYNASTY77
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I wonder if your really just paying for the UL listings? We all know home owners can be a pain in the @$$!! Unfortunately
Guess I don't understand why such a contraption, they've made wood burners for over 20yrs now that have afterburners and are extremely efficient, I installed my Napoleon in 04, it's centralized and my only source of heat, I bank it 2 times a day, morning and night, use between 3-4 cord a year, 1200 sqft home and sometimes we have to open the windows in January, NW Ohio. Nothing beats a wood burner, power goes out (who cares) we cook and make coffee on it, glass door allows enough light when the sun goes down, swear by creosote remover, it cut my chimney sweeping down to once in a blue moon from twice a season.
I have missed you guys
Cut holes in the floor and put grates on each side the heat will rise from the floor the stove is on to all the rooms and you can cover the vents when you want to restrict the airflow to certain area of the upstairs
I love the ambiance with wood burning stoves but I feel it's hard to beat a pellet stove in cost and efficiency for heating your home
I can’t wait for the next “episodes” to see how it performs!
Awesome!
I like the pellet hopper. It is nice to have the option to do both pellets and wood. Wood is more freely available around us, but the pellets are sure more convenient at times! I am looking forward to seeing more about this stove as you guys use it!
I've had the 1st gen model Liberator for 2 years and the only differences between mine and this model is I don't have a removable top its welded down also mine has a solid square feed tube while this one has the pellet air intake built into the feed tube as one solid piece, that was a extra attachment to buy then. I don't recommend it as a primary heat source. You have to keep feeding it wood and constantly babying it to keep it burning. It can burn for maybe 1 hour tops until you have to check on it to add more wood. Granted I didn't buy the pellet hopper attachments and now they don't even sell them anymore for the older model I have, so maybe it works better as a pellet stove but definitely not for burning wood exclusively. A traditional wood stove would be better.
Rockets stoves are best ran with the thermal mass you discuss. By firing with damper open and sufficient mass to run wide open for 3 or 4 hours until exhaust pipe temp above damper gets hot. Let fire burn out, close damper. If you have enough mass it will keep room warm for maybe 16 hours. Fire one a day wide open, heat mass, shut down and enjoy. The mass in home built in Russian home was built in center of home was exposed into every room. Some had ovens and lots of bed were actually built into stoves. The energy storage reduces wood consumption by 75%
Hey! There he is.
😊Very nice! Thanks. Will this be adaptable to a existing block fire place?
21:54 I,m intrigued by the spinning machine. Checking to see if you have any video on spinning, dieing, or knitting.
I have a Liberator Gen II for sale. I installed it last February, I had 3 surgeries ( back,shoulder,wrist), my family took it back out and put my old stove back in, for cosmetic reasons. I have 1 load of wood left, then I will no longer be heating with wood.(my families choice) they are helping me put geothermal heat in,($37;000) the Liberatot sells for $2,900 with pellet hopper, my pellet hopper is unused, the stove is just like brand new, it is black, it is identical to the one shown. I live in Iowa, I would ask $2,000.
great setup, liberator looks great! if you added sand to your box of rocks, to fill the gaps, would it trap more heat?
I am wondering how well the new stove is heating your home?
Pipe thickness is sized by "schedule". Schedule 10 is about 3/16" Schedule 20 is about 1/8” Schedule 40 is about 1/4”
When I lived in Germany, my entire house depended on wood. During the nights a BLOCK OF COAL went into the stove after the wood burned down. That coal burned for 8-10 hours.
I would love to hear your thoughts on the Liberator after having it for a year. Did you ever make a video showing the mass you attached to it?
We have one in our suburban home
You get moisture in your flue due to too much heat being robbed from the combustion gasses allowing the moisture from combustion to condensate on your stack pipes. If you hook up to a bench you want it sized so you keep the gasses going up the stack at least 250 f.
How did you attach the heating pipe where gravel is on top. Cool videos!
Nice, sharing.
Hi Jon ! are you running triple wall through the ceiling?
If the combustion chamber gets as hot as some really clean burning Rocket Mass Heaters, I just wonder how long the raw, uninsulated steel will last. Or is it internally insulated?
Design is efficient and effective- heat transfer to box is excellent-weight and exhaust is perfect! How can anyone fault this design?
Did your stove smoke when the stove ran out of pellets? We have been having problems with that.
Just an FYI, the Liberator Rocket Heater is UL Listed AND EPA Certified.
Wonder what would happen if you made the pipe out smaller? Would it retain more heat? And burn up more smoke???
Looks like dad’s got a junk back! If so I completely sympathize I’m the same way wife and kids have to do all the heavy lifting sometimes even a bag of pellets it’s too much to move.....Hope yours will improve
Enjoy the heat! Are you going to cook with this stove too?
Thank you. How much was this? Can you provide a direct link so I know exactly what this is. Thanks again.
I have an early model I got from my friend "Doc" in Saint Louis.... Nothing makes sense here. You show a firebox that is not on the stove when I go to their site!
@MrSprintcat
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I'm thinking they got the stove for free just to do a video. She should have kept the Blaze King princess because it's an awesome stove I have one. My mom and dad and their upper 80s and Northern New England thing burnt hardly any wood and they are comfortable walking around in their t-shirts LOL
@edgertonpeters5455
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They jump around a little, they have a homemade rocket mass heater that they keep showing that I am sure is what was replaced with the liberator rocket stove. I have a GEN 2 and like it so far, only have heated a month with it though in mid michigan. So we will see how it goes.
@bayside6207
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@@MrSprintcat I know I laughed when they took that Superior Blaze King out and replaced it with this, what a joke.
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what is ul certification and how do I get it for my stove design?
I just went to the website $3,000 for this thing that is excessive I know they have to pay for the certification but my God the people that really need the heaters don't have $3,000 to buy one I would certainly be building my own
@lisebrown8431
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I’m sure like a lot of things go down in price eventually
@educational4434
4 ай бұрын
Honestly, $3,000 is economical considering that you're getting the safety aspects cared for and the savings in heating costs over the years
I heard the cost of pellets is going to skyrocket because they are common heat source in Europe.
How much was this set up ?
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I may be totally off, but the stove at the end was not the same as the one you just brought out of the garage. This one did not have a pellet attachment and it is round, not square. Maybe I went to sleep while you where explaining?
You might look into a rocket mass heater. It will save you wood.
That's the same stove they sent Robert Murray-Smith in the UK to see if he could improve on the design, if I remember right he thought that stove was well designed and he did no see how it could really be improved.
maybe just insulate the walls near the stove and the door?
My understanding is that UL tests electrical equipment for safety. Since a wood stove uses no electricity I'm sure UL would certify it as safe. Not trying to take away anything from the stove which looks to be a good one. UL just seems to be an odd certification for a wood stove. Heat efficiency ratings are more important to me. For example, how does this store compare to a catalytic wood stove?
@asmith7876
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UL runs test for anything and everything. It’s extremely expensive to obtain a UL certification.
@xfiles4792
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@@asmith7876 They must've expanded their testing over the years. I stand corrected.
@asmith7876
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@@xfiles4792 It’s how they started but they’ve certifying fireproof construction and all sorts of things for over 100 years. I work in an industry where we require UL certifications for all sorts of things. It probably isn’t common knowledge.
the problem isn't the stoves, it's the chimneys.
UL is not a certification it is a list of items that they have tested and you can review the results of them that's all it is.
Need to keep the throw rugs and carpets away from it so you don’t have hot coals or hot sparks .
@teddyhammack2195
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And sparks on up curtains around it
Heat rises... You need fans to push cold air up.
Put a grill around it so you can not get burned.
"Furnace."
That's funny because I have a Blaze King princess it's heating my whole basement and my 1200 foot square foot house with no problem whatsoever. I'm saving so much money on wood compared to my Vermont Castings Resolute wood stove. So I think I'm going to end up going through three chords in North East New England way up towards the Canadian border. That's a that's a big savings can your stove do three cords with all that square footage?
@edgertonpeters5455
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I have one of these rocket stoves heating almost 2000 sqft right now. So far in November we have used less then a face cord. However november is not to harsh in mid michigan. We will see how it holds up in January and so on.
@bayside6207
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Removes a Superior Blaze King product and replaces it with this, just w🤦w with the millennials. The United States future is in major trouble. I'll probably be alive to see the historical downward spiral. I can already see it coming like the movie "Idiocracy"
@traceyevans2757
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Their house is almost double your tiny home.
@MrSprintcat
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@@traceyevans2757 I wasn't trying to be mean if you think I was. But I'll bet you they don't have as much crap in their house as I do. LOL
He’s a great actor in real life he pulled for Liz Cheney
I wondered what happened to HDC. Kinda just dropped off the face of the earth.