This game won’t die as long as there isn’t a competitor imo. It’s too unique

@insertaunnombreaqui

8 ай бұрын

I was going to say the same thing...any other game has a similar competitor...fighting games, fps, RPGS you name it...rocket league is the only "soccar" game and everyone thought that was a good thing, I dont think so...thats why psyonix/epic dont care because they are not preassured to do anything because either you play their game or you dont play nothing, player base doesnt have any way of migration if they want to try something else

@cheke_hs

8 ай бұрын

Certified Madden moment

@TheJoviLovi

8 ай бұрын

unique? sure. but the game, and its community sucks.

@insertaunnombreaqui

8 ай бұрын

what should be play then?@@TheJoviLovi

@joshuao5239

8 ай бұрын

@@TheJoviLovi sure the community can be annoying but the game at it’s core doesn’t suck.

RL is a simple game - hit ball with a car, very fast to play casually - literally 5 min matches but also has insane skill ceiling - just watch any pro or freestyler. I bought RL in 2015, I don't even know why and it's the only game I play regularly since then... I'm a casual, playing few matches per day but still it never got boring.

@melanco111

4 ай бұрын

in wich rank are u?

@morbid1.

4 ай бұрын

@@melanco111 I play 1v1, I'm in plat

Epic came in and turned a passion project into a cash cow. Gameplay loop is fun, psyonix created the closest gaming approximation of a team sport I’ve ever seen. Absolutely GOATed game

@GizmoPsycho

8 ай бұрын

100%

@Jriniscool

8 ай бұрын

They need more money to fund fortnite

@teopalafox

7 ай бұрын

​@@Jriniscoollol, I think it might be the other way round

my problem isnt that they are removing trading, my problem is that they dont have any kind of communication with the users and that infuriates me

@thatgamerinam

8 ай бұрын

As a 2 years rl trader, I honestly have the exact same thought

Great video, way better than every KZreadr saying game is dead for 10 mins

@GizmoPsycho

8 ай бұрын

With the current state of the game I thought that now would be a good time and to shed light on Psyonix's relationship with Epic, and offer a different prospective. Thanks for watching :)

@Wiffttrl

8 ай бұрын

well they also aren't wrong so...

@TheJoviLovi

8 ай бұрын

its not dead because it follows stupid trends. thats how all games survive now.

@guatkid1430

8 ай бұрын

@@Wiffttrl did you not watch the video the game is farrr from dead.

@phrazee

8 ай бұрын

100M players active on the game indicates it is far from dead. The gameplay is the same which is what people keep coming back for. Getting rid of trading is average but life will go on and in 6 months time no one will be talking about how there's no trading

Epic won’t listen to their community, and that’s what’s going to hurt them going forward. Great video, it really explained the whole situation very well!

@GizmoPsycho

8 ай бұрын

You're 100% on the money. Thanks for watching!

@DemoGod-rq6se

8 ай бұрын

@@GizmoPsycho Anytime brother

@Jriniscool

8 ай бұрын

As a fortnite player I can’t relate

@T1Oracle

7 ай бұрын

They don't have too. Big companies don't need their customers to be 100% happy, they just need them to keep coming back. Without competition, that part is surprisingly easy.

@YapperClips

7 ай бұрын

Dude why does every one keep assuming that rocket league is what defines Epic? People keep saying “Epic won’t listen to their community”, but honestly Rocket League is not, and hasn’t ever really been Epic’s priority. I mean, if you play Fortnite, Epic is absolutely excellent at listening to the community. They usually fix an issue within a day, and are constantly changing basic aspects of the game based on feedback. Do I think it’s fair to say “The unfortunately small division of Epic Games that are working Rocket League don’t listen to the community”

I can only talk about my own experience with the game but what I love about its design is the combination of very simplistic core gameplay and an incredibly high skill ceiling. This makes the game very addictive because you think “Hit ball, score goal. I can do that!”, but you can’t. The fact that, even after almost 10 years of the game being out, we all still suck at Rocket League, is what sets it apart from any other game I’ve ever played. Personally, what I love most is seeing my progress, learning new mechanics and understanding the game better. But I also love how easy it is to miss a ball and look stupid, leading to hilarious moments when you play with friends (less so with randoms). And even though the community can be quite toxic, and nowadays, any feedback gets absolutely ignored by the game devs and Epic, I don’t think the game will ever die as long as stubborn people like me exist who think they can one day ‘beat’ this game and be good at it :)

@devontae7262

8 ай бұрын

😮😮😮😮😮😮😮

@philippkonig6662

8 ай бұрын

100% me😂

@dyln884

7 ай бұрын

I've been saying it for years, we need a "Ha! We all suck!" quick chat

It’s an extremely satisfying game to get good at but at the same time you can never be satisfied with how good you are, which gets you hooked.

The reason that I'm still playing has a few reasons : - I've put in so much time by now to learn this game, and if i stop, those skills do not transfer to any other game. So i feel like it would be a waste - There's nothing like it, and i still have fun in the game. I still like learning new mechanics, and playing with friends. Basically it all comes down to : "There's nothing like it" And if you like rocket league, you have no other choice of game. The only game i know that is slightly similar is Turbo Golf Racing. The only similarities are that there are cars, balls and boost. But the gameplay is totally different, for starters there's no option for teamplays in TGR. So yeah.. THIS IS ROCKET LEAGUE!

It's always kind of sad when people keeps talking about some game "dying" when they don't even understand what's the thing in the game that keeps getting people engaged for years. I've been playing games since 1990 and tbh, RL is easily the hardest game to master I've ever seen or played! That's the juice that keeps me hooked in probably until no one else but me is playing...

@GizmoPsycho

8 ай бұрын

True, the learning curve is so steep it turns off a lot of people initially. Plus the fact that 'new' mechanics are still being discovered today is absolutely a testament to everything you said. Great point!

2015: Psyonix Let's make it fun, first.👍 2023: Epic Let's remove trading & make it expensive af 😈

@frequentfinesse8904

8 ай бұрын

Yup

@nickthompson1812

8 ай бұрын

Free to play, games as a service. Freemium. We love capitalism!

That last quote, though “ make it fun first” just hit hard

I think the lack of good online arcade style sports titles available on current consoles and PC has cemented this game's seemingly endless popularity. I really miss old arcade sports titles and this simple to play yet difficult to master gameplay feels like a throwback to a dead genre.

6K views?? this deserves atleast 300K this is top quality content, you really deserve more recognition. You may have a small fanbase, but its a loving and caring one. Keep making the good content and good luck with further video making

@GizmoPsycho

8 ай бұрын

Thank you so much! I plan to make more and better videos in the near future!

It’s because it’s such a competitive game and pretty much has infinite potential and mechanics and it’s so satisfying Wow so many like thanks I think rocket league can expand as far as your imagination so if you don’t have a big one than think off ideas to make it more fun😊

@Firespeedspace

8 ай бұрын

He has a point 😅

@sandeverse8477

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, they can't change the core gameplay so in the end whatever they remove it's still RL

@TheJoviLovi

8 ай бұрын

infinite potential? are you high?

@farexponent9173

8 ай бұрын

​@@TheJoviLoviHow does it not have infinite potential?

@TheJoviLovi

8 ай бұрын

@@farexponent9173 ok

I love playing Rocket league with my friends. And thats the core of it. Havent traded once, so that means nothing to me. Its just such an unique experience, and even if you loose, or do terrible moves, it always makes me laugh. Just love it.

@GizmoPsycho

8 ай бұрын

Can you imagine Rocket League without the party system? Apparently, it wasn't originally 'planned' as it required a lot of work on the back end. However, a few people on the team pushed for it and the rest is history haha

@brEZ527

7 ай бұрын

@@GizmoPsycho wow that's actually insane if I could only solo queue in this game I would've quit a long time ago lol

found this channel only gives out banger🔥

the satisfaction of the game is what makes people come back

@blitzwarzone342

8 ай бұрын

Those epic saves and awesome goals makes you want to keep getting better... plus all the freestyle content makes you think you can do that so you keep playing

@dr_redbanRL

8 ай бұрын

In reality its an addiction, the game is like a casino that massages your reward centre

@billybegood466

8 ай бұрын

And maybe the fact that there's literally no other options.

The games been "dying" once EPIC acquired it, says every Steam forum poster ever.

The game wont die, because it makes football better then any Fifa or PES games lately. Let's be honest. It's more fun then those games. Especially as both of the latter, releases a new version each year, and somehow manage to fudge it up more. There is no game that includes a ball, that should be shot, dribble and passed that is better than RL as far as I know. And I am a football fan!

@GizmoPsycho

8 ай бұрын

Absolutely. It's the difference between 'automated' mechanics versus practiced or skill-based mechanics, exactly like soccer.

I mean, in just one moment the game became dead to anyone related to trading, without any comment even now. So I totally understand everyone who claims rl is dying.

I didn’t watched the video yet but for me its that learning new stuff feels so good, air dirbbling the first time felt so fing good. The only problem with that is that learning has its highs and its lows. And if ur in the low phase there is basically nothing u can do in that game. Adding more game modes would be actually so nice and would bring this game to new lvls

Nice catch phrase in the end!

This is simple, the game is amazing, is super fun to play and is not something like DOTA or COD the matches are like 5 or 10 minutes, or if you are not in the mood to compite or play with others you can fly in free training instead, we need better community, just that..

@yergirl3368

8 ай бұрын

i swear, if the community had atleast hope for epic games to refine rocket league, instead of giving up and saying the game is dead when epic games bought rocket league, epic games could have been more motivated for the community, instead, epic games thought that they wouldn't make a profit from rocket league, so their number one priority was getting as much money back as possible.

@anonymoususer4682

8 ай бұрын

@@yergirl3368they literally did have hope after epic bought rl, the game peaked at 1 million players daily almost like fortnite. But epic decided to focus on rl cuz its community are stupid enough to buy items and fill epic's money, even if they remove "side" features from the game.

Actually it is soon as free to play came out it pretty much killed most of it's fan base and OG fans. The people who play rocket League now are new people or people that's been playing for a while but recently got good once epic bought them out and removed dlc and started adding skins that's like 25 dollars now it's a shame too see and honestly i hate too see it in this way they lost me when they removed trading

man I hope you're right. Great vid as always when I see your content. Can't say I'm not one of the doubters tho, but I'll keep my fingers crossed that I'm wrong

@GizmoPsycho

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching man :)

Unique and simple. You get in and out of the game within minutes. Small download size. Updating isn't frequent often. Works decent on all platforms, even on other operating systems where you might have to deal with delay in virtual machines. Has Epic behind so it won't lag behind in marketing.

I'm kind of amazed no-one has developed a free/open source clone of the basic gameplay.

Bought the game on launch. Hit Top 100 a few times since. 5k hours. I've played Devs. Pro's. Seen it all pretty much. Game is so unique that it has a monopoly on the market. No need to update it to "compete" with other games. So it just sits and sits. Not much change. I know the devs want to change it but I think epic is holding them to a NDA on what they want and is cancelling it all. Wish some devs at Psyonix would speak out and talk more openly like they used too. Been waiting for UE5 for years. Steam Workshop Integration for years. Hell... even underglow would be cool at this point. Eventually they will need to add something new to spice it up again but who knows how long that will be. They may just end up making a 3rd game. Been a Psyonix fanboy since June 2015 and I still am. I just want roadmaps again. Updates and posts. We've been in the dark for years now. If you've given up on the game just say so. At least we get an answer and a update for the future. Anyways if anyone reads all this thank you for listening to my TED Talk.

@kasparkirschbaum7588

8 ай бұрын

Thank you

@GizmoPsycho

8 ай бұрын

Holdup... Gamma is that you?

@GammaShotz

8 ай бұрын

@@GizmoPsycho Nah, my name in game is Carmac lol.

As a console player its frustrating that I am restricted to online matches, all with the same general idea, or free play/training packs. My fav RL content to watch is custom maps, and they look like so much fun. Car control maps, rings, air dribble maps, parkour ones, Olympic style events, even racing. Being restricted to a box seems way less fun. Hopefully UE5 or some major update allows all players to load custom maps here soon, I'm sure theres many people like me dying to try some of the stuff we see online from PC players. We'd also get better Also, if fortnite does come out with a racing mode with RL controls, I hope it pans out well. The physics on vehicles in the game is questionable at best, & doesn't even compare to the smoothness of RL. But if they implement it into a UE5 game, and it feels as it should, I could see RL on UE5 being right around the corner. Its also gonna be funny to watch those that can speed flip with good car control just demolish the fortnite playerbase in races

@nickthompson1812

8 ай бұрын

As a console player, it’s frustrating that ranked maps like Deadeye Canyon Oasis still have performance drops on Xbox. Remove the damn map from ranked or fix it for console players.

i dont really undertsand how people want to rl to become "better" i mean in this game its already impossible to update gameplay itself and the only possible thing i can imagine is unlock workshop maps for consoles and get rid off hard rank reset (its pretty tilting when u were gc2 div 2 before season 11 and then cant bring it back for 2 seasons in a row). i dont want rl to switch to UE5 cus for me it will probably ruin the game, i mean its already perfect and i can increase graphics any time i want but removing trading was wild ngl, thats really some bad news

@bastiaan531

8 ай бұрын

there is a lot of improvement that can be made, as you said making workshops more accessible but also making them easier to make, more advanced, and even co-op. and thats just 1 aspect of the game. also the ranks don't hard reset but the cap is at 1540 mmr, I've lost 400 mmr in 1 season going to 1540 but at the end of the season the inflation has brough everything back to normal

@Kobzar69420

8 ай бұрын

u didnt understand me with a rank reset. my average rank was gc2 div 2 and in season 10 and before it would reset me to gc1 or c3 div4 which isnt really bad and after a month of playing i could easily play in low gc2 lobbies. after season 11 it resets me all the way back to c3 div1 and i dont think its fair. because of that a lot of high gc2 -gc3s are in gc1 and even tho im improving its still not enough to return in gc2. thats really tilting and is a huge problem cus im a ranked "sweaty" player and about co-op... yeah i dont have friends to play with so i didnt mention that :/@@bastiaan531

Too many people have invested so many hours into getting better that it won't just die out

I hate it when I owngoal and then hear "Kachow!"

One of the best underrated KZreadrs honestly

The reason the game is decent doesn't mean if U don't add anything the game will survive it will die if they don't add anything new

Much better video than I expected

@GizmoPsycho

8 ай бұрын

Thanks! More to come.

God. Unreal Tournament was my childhood, i am still playing UT3 now.

It would be nice if they only counted unique IP’s in that ‘monthly players’ number. Cause I feel the real monthly player number is probably close to half if not less of the one given from just how many smurf and alt accounts there are.

It's unique, that's the only reason Epic hasn't successfully killed it yet... but dammit, they're trying.

"Make it fun, first" shifted to "Make it make money" a long time ago. I appreciate the hopeful tone of this video but I struggle to see the light in the current situation tbh.

The thought of Fortnite "absorbing" RL into its playground is what will keep people from continuing to play. Also, the lack of communication and proof of direction to the community is burning the bridge to the players. Keep RL OUT of Fortnite and check in with the player base more frequently. (After all, you depend on us to keep the lights on)

Great commentary!

@GizmoPsycho

8 ай бұрын

Thank you!

Great video, great middle section, and great conclusion. Nice 👍

@GizmoPsycho

8 ай бұрын

Appreciate it!

ngl if they turned that clean ass cgi work into a rocket movie I think it would be good

@GizmoPsycho

8 ай бұрын

Right?

Very nice video! I didnt realize Psyonix past before SARPBC was tied with Epic. What a parallel. But I still think the removal of trading is a killer. And now the RLCS changes for 2024 aren't looking good. Ranked is in shambles. No new players and many veterans leaving. Sad days.

The removal of trading it just too much, like it or not it was a big deal for players, I remember I got excited every time I got a crate when playing a match, then they removed it, but now removing one core thing which is trading, I had already quit cause the game was becoming boring for me, no joy of getting crates anymore, the only way to get new items was to put in credits and buy from other people, but now, any chance of me coming back is dead

Great vid , really tells what it needs to be telled

I've been playing since 2016... and I keep improving to this day. That's why I keep coming back.

@Silvyya

8 ай бұрын

sunk cost fallacy :3

@Sunshot_Addict

8 ай бұрын

@@Silvyya trust me other games have a much worse sunk cost fallacy

@Silvyya

8 ай бұрын

@@Sunshot_Addict true but a sunk cost fallacy is still a sunk cost fallacy

The game will, thankfully, be fine. I don't mind all the changes except for the removal of trading, that one stings,

There is something about my Est. 2015 title that makes me feel nostalgically happy, but also ashamed because I'm not that good at the game lmao

RL endures for the same reason SSBM endures. Because the developers aren't in the business of making the game easier. If you do something awsome, it's all on you, and that feeling can't be beat in competitive gaming

As someone who's played overwatch since 2016 your game is VERY FAR from dead.

Damn that was interesting, thank you. Can't imagine not playing anymore. Long Live the League.

what kept me around is the gameplay could care less about menial stuff

It's weird that they haven't banned the customization of the car in the bakkesmod yet

my experience with my over 1000 hours on rl is that epic wanted to rake in the money from rl without providing the content updates to an equivalent degree as fortnite

Finally a take that’s actually positive, what a breath of fresh air.

Wait wait wait...psyonix team was who did mass effect 3's multiplayer?!? No wonder that mode was so much fun...

Just passed to 1000 hour border after playing the game casually from 2015 to 2021 and re-installing it this summer, I can't grasp why Epic is making this classic fun game a cosmetic focussed money bag, it's such a shame

this video deserves way more than a sub.

@GizmoPsycho

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching :)

I like this a lot, a nice counterbalance to all the doom and gloom content being pushed by most of the large creators.

Game hasn't died to me yet because I still want to hit cool shots

I bought the game like the 2nd week it came out. A few friends of mine got it but I wasn't impressed. I thought it looked stupid so I dismissed it right away, They had a deal where on steam they sold it for $17, I forget why because the game was still really new but I said the hell with it and bought it, Now among the friends who started together Im the only one who plays, and Im as addicted to the game as can be. Sometimes finding myself at work thinking about the game or going through it in my head to learn a new mechanic.

@lostx_xghost4099

8 ай бұрын

i’m that addicted to the game that i have dreams about it, learning new mechanics, replaying matches i’ve played just before heading to bed or playing solo q i haven’t played yet. the only way i have ever been able to play is solo q, friends don’t really enjoy the game as much as i do so they don’t play, i think the skill ceiling being too high seems too daunting for them

I'm not going to stop playing I guess, but each time I find myself spending more and more time playing other games

@GizmoPsycho

8 ай бұрын

Same.

Good vid Gizmo, removing RL from Steam was missed and was such a bad move.

@GizmoPsycho

8 ай бұрын

Thanks! I agree, I still use the Steam Launcher to this day haha

Where do you get that 100 mil number from? Thats news to me. Thought the game had like 5mil active players at most.

@GizmoPsycho

8 ай бұрын

ActivePlayer.io Not sure if it's 100% accurate.

"Why is this extremely unique, free, cross-platform game not dead yet!?!"

It's a completely different game than anything out there and the skill ceiling is endless for the average player... there's always something to strive for unlike other games that get repetitive pretty fast....

Dang, this is the first I've heard of them removing player trading. It's amazing how long the game has lasted despite Epic constantly making it worse. It's just because the base of the game is so solid.

4 months later, and i think the player base is actually starting to leave since it feels feedback falls on deaf ears

The idea that a game is dying when it can still pull 500k concurrent players at the weekends on all platforms is simply ridiculous

Am I supposed to consider the game not dead, but dying, good ? Cuz that's what I kinda felt you wanted to say, and if it is... how is a game on the verge of dying any good ?

This generation’s Smash Bros. Melee

The removal of trading made me quit after playing every day for 4+ yrs

This game is great I love playing with friends it’s a fun time, but even when my friends aren’t playing I still enjoy it solo. Still has plenty of potential.

A little Change i'd like to see in Future Updates: an Option like "allow crossplay" but for "play with steam players only". It is NOT Fun to play against Smurfs from other Platforms whilst you're still playing with your 8 Years old Account + matchmaking itself is truly a problem (Diamond is the new GC)

I'm mad at myself because I didn't commit all the time I had to play games on rocket league. I started when it released and I could've easily been a pro if I kept playing consistently but I didn't

NO *$#%ING WAY PSYONIX CREATED ONSLAUGHT IN UT2004 ?!?!?!?!

yooo class video bro but personally i think you should add “… but it’s not” to the end of the title for more clicks

Hey man, loved the video. Is there anyway I could speak to you privately?

Honestly for me it's simply because you can jump in a game in 1 minute from turning your Xbox on and it last 5 minutes and then your done as a busy person a dad and a loving partner that's the main reason I keep playing it

I thought I'd neve leave the game but here I am, happier..

RL is the only game I play, I grew up on Super Nintendo and N64 and took a break for about 15 years on video games but after getting a PC capable of gaming I tried different games and RL just is so unique. I grew up playing sports so I think that is why I relate to it so much. In other sports games like NBA2k or Madden or Fifa a lot of the outcome is decided by the game, for example in madden you can get called for a holding penalty that was one of the 10 players you don't control or you can drop a pass even though you hit the right button. In NBA you can miss a shot even though you did everything perfect. In Rocket Leauge everything is so consistant and relies on what you do. Yes you have real life team mates and it can be frustrating it's still all about the skills you learn and you can only learn them by playing over time.

I am kind of mad that I started on PlayStation then took a long break then started to play again when it was free in 2020

Nice vid

hey gizmo do you really have goldrush and goldstones if you do can i have it since it will be worth nothing when trading gets removed and yeah i feel bad about all this

@GizmoPsycho

8 ай бұрын

I was using BakkesMod haha

@TexasCarWashChannel626

8 ай бұрын

@@GizmoPsycho oh okay lol

Why it isn't dead is not only because players have heaps of overburden (items), but also because the game is just too unique. Everybody ever since the invention of the car would've been interested in seeing a car push/hit a ball into a goal. The digital world made this exceed everyone's expectations (if there were any in such deep untraveled voids yet), as no one saw what the limits would be (come) after years of evolving. ...and it has not reached a sealing yet, as possibilities seem to be endless in this new concept. The same goes for the monetization of the game. Not only is it interesting for real car brands (awesome to see Lambos and Porsches in the RL styled - rocketed design), but also for other sports comparisons like football and soccer (Hoops in the future?), and possible other sports coming like golf, tennis, aso... The trick now, is to keep corporate interest balanced with community input and ideas. 1 - They released too much free content over the years - Regular players have thousands of items that probably will never get traded, leave alone the black market blueprints that are totally useless and obsolete when not bought, and die off in an endless pit of bm bp's in player's databases, and that can't be good for the servers, or loading capacity of the player. 2 - There is the unspoken problem of having so many cars, while still using the Octane/Fennec for all plays. We see players use the unconventional choice of car in casual and new concept game modes. So that is where they need to put in more effort and development. The more they can emphasize the difference between 'casual play' and 'competitive play', the better the game will get. They need to invest a lot more in the competitive side, especially the background organization part of it towards more local tournaments, to then have the nationals everywhere, that precede the world championships. That would be the motivator/promotion for the competitive side of the game, while having more casual modes (like technical race tracks, and more new concepts) could be the stimulator for the casual approach. If the game keeps adding, without expanding usage options, it will bury itself under itself.

I've never understood why people think trading is so important. I've personally had trading disabled from day one.

banger vid

Its alive despite epics best efforts

Great video

Awesome vid ❤

@GizmoPsycho

8 ай бұрын

Thanks bro ❤️

I just want a volleyball mode, or at least an easy way to do customs with friends. Even if it’s on pc (sorry console friends)

@aqop5548

8 ай бұрын

Volleyball exists on the mobile version but its extremely rare to find a match for it

Gotta get the zombas soon lmao

The more you talk about this game being dead, the more people think that. This video probably caused people to stop playing the game as much of the tweeting did. The community and lack of communication from our parent company is the reason the game is stagnating. The Community is just making it worse with negative speak. But non-bias, good video.

I do t play it as much I went back to turbo golf racing lol

Good video

An important part of the player base is gonna get ripped away in 5th of December

i've never cared about cosmetics or crates or anything, as long as they don't do ads or change the physics, idc what they do.

It won’t die because it’s easy to pick up and put down. It’s simple but has unlimited skill potential. You can always get better. It has competitive play built in with more than one tournament a day. Then you add in the customization that is fun but not game breaking. Oh yeah and it’s free to play.